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Nov 20, 2008

Thursday November 20, 2008 Stanley B. Whitten

Theme: Be Careful

20A: Start of practical advice: NEVER TEST THE

39A: Part 2 of advice: DEPTH OF THE WATER

59A: End of advice: WITH BOTH FEET

Is this supposed to be an sarcastic advice? Who tests the depth of water with both feet?

I think I have common ground with Stan. We can talk. He seldom stumps me with obscure words or names. There is a certain ALOE calmness about his grid.

Some flaws:

10A: No-no: TABU. Needs "var" in the clue.

24A: Mets stadium: SHEA. Not any more, SHEA is being demolished now. Citi Field will be Mets stadium in 2009.

29D: Booze, butts and bullets bureau: ATF. Needs an abbreviated "org." or "agcy" to replace "bureau".

39D: Isl. off Australia: TAS. The official abbreviation of Tasmania is TASM. "Prof.'s helpers" would be a better clue for TAS.

Across:

5A: Korbut and others: OLGAS. Another Olympic gold medal winner is TARA (65A: Skater Lipinski)

15A: Apply blusher: ROUGE. I did not know that ROUGE can be a verb.

25A: Turkey mister: TOM. Did anyone think the clue was asking for "Mr." in Turkish language?

30A: Free from restraint: AT LARGE. The first word that popped into my brain is BRALESS.

32A: McBain and McMahon: EDS. Did not know ED McBain.

44A: Mafia leader: CAPO. Sometimes it's clued as "Guitar device".

45A: B'way sign: SRO. Do they really have SRO sign in B'way now?

46A: Napoleon's birthplace: CORSICA. See this map. The answer could be BAKERY if the constructor is in the mood to play with "birthplace". Want some Napoleon?

53A: Board joint: DADO. No idea. I got it from the down fills. See this DADO joint.

64A: "Jurassic Park" star Sam: NEILL. Not familiar with this actor. Have never seen "Jurassic Park".

70A: Acapulco bread?: PESOS

Down:

5D: Sacred story set to music: ORATORIO. Got it this time. Wikipedia says Handel is "credited with writing the first English language ORATORIO. Is his "Messiah" in English then?

8D: First name in mysteries: AGATHA. Interesting to read her adventurous stories in Iraq during 1930's with her archaeologist husband.

9D: Last part of a sonnet: SESTET. New definition to me. Dictionary says "it's the last six lines of a sonnet in Italian form".

12D: Hogan or Franklin: BEN. Hogan had such a compact & powerful swing. Another golfer is HAL (22D: Sutton of PGA), one of the nicest guys in PGA Tour. He cries easily.

21D: Stick 'em up!: REACH. Is "Stick 'em up" a slang? I've never heard of it before. And ADHERE (49D: Stick fast). I thought "Stick (to)" is a better clue.

32D: Formal proclamation: EDICT

33D: Apollo's birthplace: DELOS. Also the birthplace for his Twin sister Artemis of course. I wonder why there are so many islands ending with letter "os" in Cyclades. See KEA? It's in our puzzle last time.

41D: Formal letters: EPISTLES. New definition to me.

59D: Split: WENT. They are not synonymous, are they? I penned in RENT (pp form of REND) first.

61D: Shriner topper: FEZ. "Shriner" is a new word to me.

C.C.

57 comments:

  1. Good morning, c.c. and gang.

    Wow, I thought yesterday's was easy - this was four-minute stuff today. Amusing quote at least.

    c.c., I like your thinking on 30A - great minds think alike. And yes, they really do have 'SRO' signs on Broadway.

    Today is both Absurdity Day and Beautiful Day. Have a beautifully absurd day.

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  2. c.c., re 59D - yes, 'split' and 'went' are synonymous; 'split' is slang for leave (or left), as in "Let's split", or "He split".

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  3. Good morning CC, DFs and DFettes...another easy puzzle today. The only one I was not sure of was 33D and had to check the spelling once I got the fills.

    @barbb you have more fortitude than me to drive 120 miles to class. My wife got her MBA in night school but it was only a 10 mile drive twice a week.

    @CC the tom turkey was a gimme for me. I did not give any thought to Turkish slant. I like you "Free from restraint" answer better than the constructors.

    I will wait for drdad to tell me what the day is but in the mean time I hope you all have a great day.

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  4. Dennis I liked your morass comment yesterday. That was a quick retort LOL.

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  5. Dennis,
    I am glad my mind gets to be "great" today. Is "Stick 'em up" a slang also? Can you make a sentence for me? By the way, your answers to my questions do not count as extra posts.

    Dick,
    Do you like Bo Derek?

    Kazie,
    I've never had vegemite. Is it like marmite? Do you use it for your toast? Does your husband like the taste?

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  6. Chris & Dr. Dad & Embien,
    Interesting ragu/GRAVY discussions yesterday. I like Embien's GRAVY BOAT clue.

    Ink,
    Thanks for STAND, pride and gaggle yesterday. Great examples.

    Anonymous @ 10:04am & Mark @ 4:12pm,
    Isn't that strange that submarines are called boats? They are so big. Don't they even carry life-saving boat?

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  7. CC back in the day I really liked Bo but not so much any more.

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  8. Dick & Dennis & Dr. Dad,
    Who are your favorite actresses now?

    Lois,
    Does "The devil is getting married" sound familiar?

    Barb B,
    Congratulations once again! I am inspired.

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  9. Crockett & NYTanonimo & J.D.,
    I am glad you enjoyed "The Simpsons" clips. I look forward to solving the puzzle this coming Sunday.

    Did you notice the grid mistake on Part II? At about 1:59, you will see Lisa fills in BEGINS, which intersects GS. There is never a 2-letter word on any official crossword puzzle of course.

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  10. c.c., any dfettes that are still here could probably give you a better use of "stick 'em up".

    dick, thanks, that's the kind of stuff I miss on here.
    jeannie, sorry I had to cut short our 'swamp' routine yesterday. I hit the post limit, but couldn't tell you I had 'cause that'd been another post.

    barbb, I am in complete and total awe of your accomplishment. Two hundred and forty miles every Monday for 3 years?? Plus all the weekend stuff? You should be incredibly proud of that kind of fortitude - congratulations isn't a sufficient word, but it's the best I can do. My hat's off to you.

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  11. Morning, all!

    No problems at all today, although I agree that TABU seemed off. I looked it up afterward and discovered that the original Polynesian word TABU is the source of our standard English word "taboo," but it still needs a "var." indication.

    The only unknown for me today was, not surprisingly, a proper name of a golfer (HAL). Easy enough to get via the perps, however.

    And yes, I initially thought 25A was looking for a Turkish word! ^_^

    There were some parts of the puzzle that could have been a bit thorny, but fortunately I was able to pull a number of semi-obscure words from the crossword vault in my brain, including DADO, CAPO and BARA.

    And then, of course, there was CORSICA. I wonder if that was hard to get for anyone, but I always remember if from a very old joke I learned as a kid:

    Q: Can you tell me what nationality Napoleon's parents were?

    A: Corsican ([of] course I can)!

    Hey -- I never said it was a good joke....

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  12. No quip puzzle is ever "easy" really. I was able to get today's puzzle without resorting to google nor the red letters of the online version: the clues to the commonly used crosswordese are so familiar now that the only problems I had besides the quip itself was CAPO (I initially wrote in CZAR) and BARA and ORATORIO (I had to use google when I got home to check if they were correct.) Anyway, the quip was easy enough once I had WITH BOTH FEET from the perps, although I had written RIVER first instead of WATER.

    Oh and I didn't know that Napolean was born in CORSICA: after all, that would mean he was born in Italy, not France. Similarly, Hitler was born in Austria not Germany. (If it turns out that Corsica is actually part of France and not Italy then I'll say "Oh really? Nevermind then" right now and save myself the trouble of doing another post.)

    Martin

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  13. Hey, Martin!

    Boy, I'm glad I posted right before you instead of right afterward... ^_^

    As for Corsica, it's actually an island in the Mediterranean Sea that is located west of Italy and southeast of France. According to Wikipedia, it's considered one of the 26 régions of France, although strictly speaking Corsica is designated as a "territorial collectivity" (collectivité territoriale) by law.

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  14. Good morning.

    I agree with Dennis. This was a "speed" Xword.

    Nope, didn't think of anything but Tom for Turkey mister.

    Can't stand Bo Derek. I guess now I would have to go with Jessica Alba and Liv Tyler on the big screen and Marg Helgenberger on TV. BTW - Marg went to the same college (Kearney State College in Nebraska) as I did and around the same time. Never met her, though.

    Today is (in addition to Dennis' Absurdity Day and Beautiful Day) "Name Your PC Day." I don't have a name for mine. Does anyone else?

    It is also Mexican Revolution Day. On this date, in the year 1910 the war to overthrow the dictator Porfirio Díaz, began.

    I am going to be flying down to Lousiville, KY today and won't be back until late tomorrow night. Don't know if I will get to the puzzle or the site tomorrow.

    Have a great Thursday (and Friday).

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  15. As a swimmer I think a more appropriate caution would be to never test the depth of the water by diving in head first. This puzzle went fairly fast for me too. DADO was new to me also. Thanks for the explanation cc. Hope everyone has a good day.

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  16. Hi all!
    First let me say that I had absolutely no problems with this puzzle. I'm no speed solver, since I usually do it over breakfast, but there were no pauses at all.

    c.c.,
    Yes, vegemite is like marmite only a bit stronger flavor.
    I loved your take on 30A. I avoid them whenever I can (at home). They feel like I'm wearing a harness.

    Corsica is French territory. France actually has several overseas départements, including Guadeloupe and Martinique. Napoleon was often disparaged as an inferior because of his Corsican birth, probably why he overcompensated by taking over everything.

    I do have a problem with the clue for Tas, but for a different reason. It is one of Australia's states, and it sounds weird to me to say it's an island "off" Oz. Makes it sound separate like it's part of a different country. They could clue it as "island state of Oz" or something.

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  17. Morning all,
    Such an easy time with the x/words this week. Is tomorrow the day we will repent?

    @CC, never heard of rouge being a verb. Of course for years now we called it blush. Never said I blushed some pink on my cheeks. But I'm sure I am not aware of all our English idiosyncrasies. I knew dado from watching many episodes of "This Old House" one of the early shows on building, repairing, and decorating a home. Now we have HGTV and others. Can't think of the name of the talented carpenter on TOH.

    @Barry, I will never forget Corsica again. Thanks.

    @BarbB, Many congratulations on your degree. Your dedication is amazing and truly inspiring.

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  18. free of restraint was a howl.

    some regional italians refer to their tomato sauce as "gravy"

    "stick em up" is heard a lot in the old western cowboy movies. a "stick up" is a "heist" or robbery.

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  19. Good morning, C.C. and all.

    I never match Dennis for speed, but this was a fast puzzle.
    I didn't know HAL Sutton, or DELOS. I know the word DADO, but couldn't get it from the clue. All three of these words were completed with the fills. No Googling.

    C.C., it's too close to Thanksgiving to think of anything other than TOM turkey. Any other time of the year, we might wonder about the other possibilities for the clue. (Well, except for Barry, I see. *G*)

    Dr.dad...my office computer is "Trixie," and our home computer is "Rover.' We needed shorthand to be able to describe the computers when the kids were creating a network.

    Jeanne, were you thinking of Norm Abram?

    I enjoyed the musical clues today. It's not often you see ORATORIO in a puzzle.

    Have a great Thursday, everyone!

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  20. When did you guys all go capital letter on your names? Mine didn't the first time. Let's see if it does this time.

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  21. Well, here's my third post. Since everyone is going capital these days, I changed mine. I also changed my picture to the most lovable creature in all of Christmastown - THE BUMBLE!!!! Whoever said he was an abominable snow monster?

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  22. @KittyB, thanks for the Norm Abram name; could only remember his talent and his plaid flannel shirts. Are plaid flannel shirts a requirement for carpenters?

    @CC, "Jurassic Park" was a special effects phenomenon in its time. Not usually my choice in movies but it was amazing. The other day you mentioned "Charlie Wilson's War" and I loved that movie. Hoffman was fantastic in his CIA role. Love movies with some historical significance even though they sometimes have a biased slant on history.

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  23. Good morning, C.C. and gang.
    No time for puzzle today, but it sounds easy.

    C.C, A submarine "tender" is a surface ship that is a floating supply depot for repairs, food and spare parts. It is customary for several "boats" to tie up alongside, side by side. At some point in the history of submarines, someone opined that they looked like little pigs next to a sow. The expression became pigboats, which is still used with nostalgia within the submarine community.

    Have a great day all.

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  24. Mark - Buenos Aires

    Re "reach"

    John Wayne (with his white hat) sometimes said to the baddies (the ones wearing dark hats) -

    "stick ém up"

    and sometimes - "reach for the skies" and so "reach"

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  25. Martin,
    Thank you for your explanation of fractals. I have always loved mathematics mostly because of its' orderliness and logic. But when I heard "chaos" used in the discussion on NOVA, I was intrigued. It seems to me that it's sort of related to the explanation of infinity learned in high school. That is, you can divide a line of any length in half,then that half in half again as many times as you wish, but you never reach the point where you have no line to divide. Fractals seem to be going in the opposite direction, getting longer and longer to the 'point' of infinity.

    It is smoetimes difficult to wrap the mind around these concepts. But, if we are lucky, we experience that "eureka" moment when all becomes clear.

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  26. Hi c.c.:

    Easy puzzle today so I sped right through it. Any words I wasn't sure about were easily filled in by the perps.

    c.c.: Yup, I originally thought it was a Turkish word until I filled in trots then it was an "Aha" moment. Silly me!

    Barbb: Many congrats on your degree, what dedication!Wounded veterans advocate

    According to Wikipedia: Bo Derek routinely visits hospitalized veterans. She is National Honorary Chairperson for Veterans Administration's National Rehabilitation Special Events. Derek attended the 17th annual Disabled Veterans Winter Sports Clinic held in Snowmass Village at Aspen, Colorado. In 2003, Derek was presented with the VA's highest honor by Secretary of Veteran's Affairs, Anthony Principi. Derek also goes on USO tours. The Special Forces Association named her an honorary Green Beret.[9]

    Have a wonderful day everyone!

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  27. Good Morning All, As usual on Thursday, once down and then once across to fill in the quip.

    The first thing I thought of when I filled in DADO was "Nawm" (C.C. - the New England pronunciation for Norm) from this old house. I'm surprised the guys didn't mention him first. Looks like he was quite the ladies man.

    "I'm gonna ROUGE my knees
    And roll my stockings down"
    are lyrics from All That Jazz. Catherine Zeta Jones might be a candidate for someone's favorite (most beautiful) actress.

    Appointment with our bank financial planner this morning. Wish us luck.
    Check out the blog later.

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  28. Ken,
    The term "tender" is still used in AK for the boats bringing supplies to the fishing crews that have no access to shops off the coast of Kodiak Island. They also deliver their catch to the markets, I believe. My son worked there a couple of summers before he got into the oil business.

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  29. @ Lois you are right as to "stick em up" is heard a lot in the old western cowboy movies. A "stick up" is a "heist" or robbery except in the case of the three D's.

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  30. Same answer in the same spot for today and yesterday’s puzzle. 6D- LORE. Strange!

    Mike

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  31. Good morning, everyone!

    An easy quip day today. Complete puzzle with no G spot or other assistance. Even the proper names came easily this morning.

    Yes, C.C., very sarcastic. I loved the clue for 32D. I didn't care for the repeat of "bread" in clues 70A and 71A. LOL on 30A! Handel's "Messiah" is definitely in English. We have a "sing your own" version here in Portland that has been going for about 30 years now. We get to sing the choruses and the various solo parts are read from the podium. It's a fun evening.

    @barry It took me a while to remember that Nappy was the "little Corsician."

    @mike anonymous Good catch on "lore."

    Have a great Thursday!

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  32. Good morning C.C.and everyone,
    C.C., I have WELT for 59D and ZEST for 69A. If WELD is the answer for 59D, that would make 69A ZESD.

    I was surprised that today's puzzle was not the usual quip/quote done by A.O.

    Dennis, I agree with Dick (and you) about the fun 'back and forth'. I have truly missed that as well.

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  33. This was another easy puzzle. In the past puzzles became progressively more difficult as the week progressed, culminating in the Sunday puzzle. When did this change? Do you think that when the Chicago Tribune changed to a new print format, they decided to keep all the puzzles on the same level?

    Despite the ease of this puzzle, I liked the quip. Excellent advice!

    @cc: Regarding many Greek islands ending in –os. In Greek nouns are declined. The –os ending is the masculine in the nominative case.

    As for “turkey mister”, I was looking for a piece of equipment that would enable one to mist a turkey with…butter? Oil? I guess all my fretting about how to cook our heritage turkey is getting to me. Has anyone cooked a heritage turkey before? Any cooking instructions are appreciated! As it ends up this Burbon Red is costing me a small fortune, and I do not want to mess it up!

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  34. Dennis - thanks for the 'V-8 moment'..I had ECOL for 66A..I was thinking of Ecology, so it worked (sort of). Welt didn't really fit but I thought it was one of those special c/w words. You have made an honest woman of me..;)

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  35. Ink,
    I know nothing about Heritage Turkeys, but I do have a "mister", such as you were asking about. You put oil in it, about half full or less and pump it to increase pressure inside, then you can spray anything with it.

    Also, wondering about Greek gyros--I always suspected it wasn't a plural, but wasn't sure enough. Does that mean there's no such things as a gyro?

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  36. @kazie: Yes, there is no such thing as "gyro". Nouns in Greek are masculine, feminine or neuter. Commonly, the nominative, singular forms are -os (m), -a (f) and -i (n).

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  37. I flew through this one today with zest. I didn't get edgy or become an ogler to the g-spot today. That would have been tabu. (I always thought it was spelled taboo). With that I am going to get free from restraint and take a little catnap.

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  38. Ink,
    Great, thank you!

    I reacted too fast with this the first time and deleted it, because I didn't want to waste a posting to ask another question, but then I got the runaround and had to reset my pw to get back in.

    Here's the question: What about the Greek words ending in -on? I know their plural is -a (criterion/criteria). Are they masculine too?

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  39. Easy yesterday. Easier today.

    C.C. Still thought Tom was Mr. in Turkey until I read your question. How dumb can I be?

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  40. @kazie: In modern Greek, “the criterion” is “το κριτήριο”. The “το” indicates it is neuter, and there is no “n” on the ending. But criterion undoubtedly came from ancient Greek where words, their endings and even genders were often different. The modern Greek endings I gave for each of the genders are the most common but not only ones. For example, masculine nouns (nominative case, singular) commonly end in –os(-ος), -is (the “i” has a long e sound) (-ης) or –as (-ας). Feminine nouns end in both –a (-α) and –i (long e sound) (-η). And neuter nouns commonly end in –i (long e sound) (-ι), -o (-ο) and –a (-α). Here is a link to the various endings with examples. Though there are some plurals and genitive endings given to distinguish different classes of nouns, this chart is intended to show the nominative, singular forms. Of course, it helps in reading this if you can read the Greek alphabet, eh?

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  41. Ink,
    Thanks again. I do have a transcription of the Greek alphabet printed out to refer to. So I'll check this site out. It will be interesting.

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  42. Louis,
    "Free of restraint was a howl". I don't understand this comment.

    Kazie,
    Boy, I was not aware that TAS is part of Australia. It's TASM, not TAS, right?

    Crocket,
    Why did you love 32D clue? "Formal proclamation" for EDICT does not strike me as special.

    Ink,
    Thanks for "os". Interesting to know. Your 1:10pm post is definitely all Greek to me.

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  43. Mark (Buenos Aires),
    Thanks for REACH. I was only aware of "REACH for the moon/stars".

    Mark @ 10:13am,
    Are you the same Mark as yesterday's SUB/boat Mark?

    Dr. G, Barry, Gatormom and KittyB,
    I hope the constructor Stan Whitten finds our TOM comments interesting. He certainly has achieved his goal. See, if the clue is "Mister turkey", some of us would not have been misled. Very clever capitalization of letter T in "Turkey mister".

    Oh, also, Dr. G, thanks for the flautist link yesterday. I was indeed thinking of flaut-ist.

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  44. Thanks to everyone for your kind words. I did shamelessly fish for them, but that doesn’t make them less appreciated. You are all wonderful.

    Jurassic Park clue reminded me that Michal Chrichton died last week. He was a totally awesome person.
    Although I didn’t enjoy his books that much, I saw him in an interview with Charlie Rose, and was very impressed with his genius and quick wit. He was 66 – much too young to leave his family behind.

    No serious challenges this week. I wonder what tomorrow will bring.

    When you set up your home for wireless, it asks you to name the computers; I tend to freeze up when I’m asked to come up with something clever ‘on the spot’ so I just named mine ‘Office’ and ‘baby laptop.’ It’s a baby because it only has a 12” screen.

    Rain this morning, sunshine by noon, and I have to be at work at 2. Rats! WHEN will I get to work in the yard?

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  45. c.c.,
    I wasn't sure, so I googled their white pages and made up a business name to get an address that might use an abbreviation. What I got included this, the capital city, and state abbreviation with postal code: Hobart TAS 7000.

    So I'd say the puzzle answer was correct. Most aussies would call it Tassie for short, but normally that isn't written down. Half the states have three letter abbreviations: TAS, NSW, QLD, VIC. The others with two word names use those initials: W.A., N.T., S.A.

    Ink,
    I've been "studying my Greek". I tried transcribing some of the examples, but get hung up on the letters that look like English ones that actually are different. But it explains a lot. For example, the upsilon, eta, mu and nu explain why in old German script a whole lot of the letters used to look so similar, it made reading it impossible for the uninitiated. Thanks again.

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  46. Mark - Buenos Aires

    c.c. No, I am not sub boat Mark - he must be another fan of your blog, I always write Buenos Aires.

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  47. @kazie: Yesterday (?) you said you have never been to the Northern Territory. I have. BC, of course. I went overland from Adelaide to The Alice, where I did a side trip to see Ayers Rock at sunrise, then climb it. Finally I went overland from Alice Springs to Darwin. But that was all >20 years ago. If I were to do that trip again, I would do it so differently.

    Have you ever read Bruce Chatwin's Songlines? Much of the book was narcissistic blather, but I though the first chapter about songlines and dream time was brilliant.

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  48. OOPS! I meant 62D as the clue I like. You see, the 6 is just above the 3 on the numeric keypad .....

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  49. As reach has already been addressed, I'll leave it. It was a gimme for me as I've seen so many Westerns, or horse operas.
    My Mac, not a pc, is named Calvin and my documents are stored in Hobbes.
    I did not like 10A. No-no is practically baby talk, and tabu or taboo is legitimate language. I've seen it spelled both ways, but my spell check wants taboo.
    It's up to 65 in SW FL, but the sky (to reach for)is beautiful and sunny. Hope all of you have a beautiful day too.

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  50. Ken,
    Thanks for pigboat and tender earlier.

    Clear Ayes,
    Why "ROUGE my knees"? Why "knees"?

    Ink,
    FYI, TMS puzzles have always been random. They do not follow NY Times' more-difficult-as-the-week go pattern.

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  51. Hi Charlie, thanks for your arf. If Fledermaus were still this side of the rainbow bridge, she would arf back.

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  52. Good evening CC & DF's: Easy & fun puzzle but not "Dennis time". Laughed at Freedom from restraint 30A. CC, love your thinking too. Funny! I thought 'Let it all hang out', but obviously that wouldn't work. 29D always cracks me up (the formidable 3 B's...my best buds), plus so many other 'superb' DF possibilities, with 'stick 'em up!, 'neill', and 'went', but that depth might be tabu. I'm keeping both feet out of that water.

    CC: to answer your question:
    Does "The devil is getting married" sound familiar?
    Of course I've heard of it. Who do you think inspired it? I was the bride!

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  53. Good Evening Everyone, After our appointment this morning, G.A.H. and I are trying to think of our glass as half-full, rather than half-empty. We rearranged our bank accounts and some other financial stuff. Not fun, but it could have been a lot worse.

    We also went to the movies and saw "Quantum of Solace". It was a very exciting, slam bam, chase every five minutes movie. Since we didn't see the lead-in "Casino Royale", I was kind of lost with the Q of S references to what went on before. Hand-held camera action can add to the Wow factor but, with all the veering and whirling around, it made me dizzy in this movie. No, I don't know who shot Mr. Greene in the desert, although Bond did tell him that his associates would know he had "talked". Maybe there is another follow-up movie in the works.

    We managed to fit in a trip to Costco too. At least 1/3 of the store is filled up with Christmas decorations and gifts, so all the regular items had been rearranged. It took us quite a while to find the trail mix.

    Tonight is chorus practice. It's my turn as driver for five of us. I'd much rather kick of my shoes and watch something silly (The Office?) on TV. But that is not to be, so I'd better get ready.

    'Night All.

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  54. Free of restraint was a howl

    Laughed at Freedom from restraint

    Are these DF comments? "Restraints" could refer to bondage.

    Oh, by the way, pattispa, you're welcome. Whenever I am asked to explain something I always remember when Richard Feynmann said: "If you can't explain something in such a way that anybody can understand then you don't really understand it yourself." Maybe we'll see that one day as a quip.

    Martin

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  55. Whoo-hoo! I loved the c/w puzzle today. It made me feel so smart. Finished it in our 20 min SSR period.. I'm supposed to be reading too, shhh. What I didn't know, fell into place, EVEN THE QUIP!!!
    Dado? Capo? Who cares??And I doubt that I will ever use the word sestet, even though I love sonnets.

    Forgive me Barb for not sending you big time kudos!! I am sooo impressed. Did you learn another language on tape while on those long drives?? Sing?

    I'm not sure where or why the word tender came up, but while on my cruise, we had to be tendered into two of the ports where we couldn't get a "curb-side" docking.These boats were called tenders.

    Our CA skies were gorgeous today with puffy white clouds, but it is cooling off.Are we planting tulip bulbs yet???

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  56. Movie tittle With Ugly? The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

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