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Dec 22, 2012

Saturday, Dec 22nd, 2012, Barry C. Silk

Theme: Saturday Silkie

Words: 70

Blocks: 33


  I am guessing Mr. Silk and Mr. Norris were expecting today to arrive after all....or at least hoping so~!!!  I enjoyed working this offering from our regular constructor - most of it did not come easily, but I had the time to ponder, since I am working again today, but not until late AM.  A string of names and places* today, which made it that much harder, but then again, I had heard of them.   Twin 10-letter answers paired in each pinwheel corner, including -

18. Layer on many pies : MOZZARELLA - ah, I got fooled again, for a moment - was thinking "OREO CRUST", and dessert pies, not pizza pies; and with the next across;

21. Frequent flier's distraction, maybe : PUZZLE BOOK - made for a block of ZZZZ, giving us soZZled and piZZa.

47. Rodeo highlight : CALF ROPING - see, now, BULL RIDING fit, too, which perplexed me for the longest time - then the clue for 48D finally hit me, and the V-8 can sailed....

54. Mariana Islands region : MICRONESIA - map; I knew it was in the Pacific....

o-n-w-a-r-d ~!!!

ACROSS:

1. Org. Indonesia left in 2008 : OPEC - yeah, I was gonna fill this in to start, but waited til I had the "-P-C"

5. Lid fastener : HASP - lids on hatches, I am thinking

9. Either of two "Matter of Fact" columnists : ALSOP - Joseph and Stewart.  Before my time, a column from the 40's and 50's; the former would have participated with 52D.

14. Galileo's birthplace : PISA - I knew this, but again didn't hit me til I had "-I-A"

15. Weena's people, in a Wells novel : ELOI - new way to clue our old favorite

16. Dickensian holiday meal : GOOSE - not FEAST, not ROAST

17. Spade et al., briefly : TECS - Detectives, that is -we've seen it before

20. Letters from Athens : ETAs - the Greek alphabet letters

22. Was plucky enough : DARED

24. How workaholics often work : LATE

25. "Hallelujah!" : "PRAISE BE~!"

28. Dutch engineering feat : DIKE

32. Break room postings : MEMORANDA - where I work, the break room has a framed set of pictures of the construction of our UPS facility, which was finished in 1991, I believe, but the pictures look like they were taken with a 60's camera - I was 'shocked' to find out the place was that "new".

34. More balanced : SANER

35. Sweet girl? : ADELINE

36. Close in on the answer : GET WARM - I had the "M" from Erma, and knew that was right, but couldn't think of a word that ended in "M"

38. Closet stuff : LINEN

39. Edward VII's queen : ALEXANDRA - I was curious, went looking

41. Permits : LETS - the verb, as in allows

42. Hot tub site, maybe : SKI LODGE - I threw in BATHROOM, since that's where I want my hot tub to go; I have had the pleasure of sitting in a hot tub at a ski lodge when I was in college - after skiing, we came back to the house, got 7D., and enjoyed the jacuzzi - which was located OUTSIDE on the porch~!

43. 1977 ELO hit : DO YA - cool, a laser show~!!

44. Chef's wear : TOQUE - the hat

53. Bee's address? : AUNT - I tried "HIVE", since it's the bee's home....but this is something else

55. City on the Brazos : WACO

56. Not standard : ADD-ON - like car accessories

57. Upscale : TONY - British, like here

58. __ impasse : AT AN

59. Eponymous trailblazer Chisholm : JESSE - more on the trail here


60. 1961 space chimp : ENOS

 

61. Slangy approvals : YEPS

DOWN:

1. Was decisive : OPTED

2. Artistic representation of the Lamentation of Christ : PIETA

3. Cliff : ESCARPMENT - nice fat word

4. Potluck array : CASSEROLES - 'tis the season

5. Environmentally friendly crop : HEMP - um, yep, the fibers are quite useful (too).

6. Giants manager before Bochy : ALOU - crossword standard, with Saturday cluing

7. More than buzzed : SOZZLED - how many adjectives can you come up with?  Don't ask me, I used ALL of them prior to 8 years ago....

8. Toaster oven treat : PIZZA BAGEL - so good, I wolf them down.  I have even made my own, not the frozen treats you can get. 

9. Line up : AGREE

10. Singer with the children's album "Camp Lisa" : LOEB - She's cute

11. Big moment on stage : SOLO - and its anagram; 12. Kon-Tiki Museum city : OSLO

13. Optimum selling point : PEAK - which creates peak UPS volume....

19*. Der __: Adenauer epithet : ALTE - the "Old Man"

23*. Singer portrayed by Spacey in "Beyond the Sea" : DARIN

26*. "Sweet Tooth" writer McEwan : IAN

27*. Cheap wine : SNEAKY PETE - I have only heard of the cue stick - I have one; for the drink, there's Night Train, Mad Dog 20/20, Thunderbird....

28*. 4 Seasons title line preceding "I'm no good for you" : DAWN GO AWAY - Dawn is my senior supervisor's name

29. Not up to snuff : INADEQUATE - another $5 word in the grid; left us with just the "V" missing for a pangram

30*. LPGA star Cristie : KERR

31*. Humorist Bombeck : ERMA

32. Washington attraction : MALL

33*. Falco of "Nurse Jackie" : EDIE

34*. German town : STADT

37. Skeleton opening : EXO - Exoskeleton; I had to think for a while, because I really, really wanted "KEY"

40. Tryst : LIAISON

42. Delaying tactic word : SOON

43. He bee : DRONE - har-har

45. Open, in a way : UNCAP

46. Waist-length jackets : ETONs

47. Key of Beethoven's Piano Concerto No. 1 : C MAJ - fill in the "M" for Major/Minor, and wait....

48. Lieutenant : AIDE - tough cluing, but it makes sense; had to wait until I had -IDE, which made me change my BULL RIDING

49. Some TV screens : LCDs - mine is an HDTV, but not the Liquid Crystal Display type

50. Big dos : 'FROS - "I.M. Fletcher, 6'-5", with the 'Fro 6'-9"...."

51. El __ : NINO - the ocean phenomena

52. Some civil rights activists : GAYS

Splynter

Note from C.C.:

Happy Birthday to dear Misty! Have a lovely stacation.


44 comments:

  1. Wrote a long post, and lost it. (iPad)

    Nice enjoyable puzzle to start the weekend. Thanks, Splynter, for the explanations.

    Keep warm, everybody,

    Montana

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  2. Morning, all!

    Got about 3/4 through this one via slow and steady progress and then almost threw the towel in. Chunks of white space up north and in the center just sat there mocking my ignorance.

    Not at all familiar with SNEAKY PETE, but I finally guessed DOYA and that was enough to break open that section. ALEXANDRA was another complete guess, but there weren't many names it could have been once I got the ALEX part. I always thought STADT meant "state", so that took a bit of guessing a well.

    Up north, it took awhile to finally get all the Z's. SOZZLED was (and still is) a complete mystery to me, so that was no help whatsoever. Ditto for ALSOP. I fell for the "pies" misdirection and wasn't thinking pizza at first, and PUZZLE BOOKS didn't easily spring to mind, either.

    I finally guessed at ALSOP/PEAK and that was enough to get me the foothold I needed. I don't know anything about Giants managers, but at least I've heard of ALOU and could guess it after getting a perp or two.

    Still have a headache, btw, but the CT scan was clear so at least I don't have to worry about having a concussion...

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  3. What a learning experience! Micronesia, escarpment, Alexandra, Sneaky Pete for a few -- now can I remember them? Fun run, tho. Chilly here this morn, will have trouble getting dog to go outside! Take care, Barry, with your injury. Merry Christmas

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  4. Thank you Barry Silk and thank you Splynter. This was all about Fits and Spurts. Started slowly. It seemed I was going downhill from there, but stuck with it, and seemed to get on a roll only to stall again.

    Finally failed at Y in SNEAKY PETE and DOYA. Other cheap wine (in the early 70s) was Boone's Farm and Ripple. Also failed at S of HASP and SOZZLED. Never heard of sozzled. Maybe I have. Could be that someone slipped some environmentally friendly crop in my brownies and it affected my memory.

    Pretty familiar with story of Jesse Chisholm and the Chisholm Trail. Parents had an antique shop in a town (Salado Tx) that was one of the stops (Salado River) on the trail. Salado is a town full of artists, antique shops, and tourists. It is also the home of the Stagecoach Inn, the oldest continuously running running hotel in Texas. Most of my family lives around there. Coworker in Houston was from Cleburne, home of one of the Chisholm Trail museums.

    Speaking of cattle, what does the phrase "Iowa corn fed beef" mean to you ?

    Also loved seeing Waco, another local stomping ground. And more Museums. Home of the Dr Pepper Museum. And CC, this one is for you. Bet you did not know that Waco is the home of Texas Ranger Hall of Fame and Museum Did I previously mention that my BIL was one ?

    Hope everyone has a wonderful day

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  5. Good morning!

    I was snowbound in Wisconsin for the longest time, and thought I heard the SILKen sad uncertain rustling of a dreaded DNF. Then the quad Z's suddenly appeared and it was finished.

    Barry's puzzles always seem daunting, but he usually provides just enough gimmes to allow me to muddle through. Really enjoyed it!

    Splynter you outdid yourself with your links today. But I was disappointed that the Oklahoma site didn't show a map of the Chisholm Trail. What were they thinking?

    I met a couple on Guam, both expat high school teachers, who spent one entire summer island-hopping via tramp steamer from one end of Micronesia to the other. The husband had been a POW in the Phillipines during WWII. You'd think he'd have seen enough of the far Pacific. On one island the women were sporting missionary-provided tshirts for modesty. The women, who normally went topless, thought the shirts were funny, but went along with the joke. The women who were nursing cut circular holes in their shirts which just accentuated things. Dennis would've been in heaven!

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  6. Wow ! Just noticed the time. Thought it was about 7. My day is slipping away and I have to get the laundry going and then get out to start Christmas shopping !

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  7. I didn't look at the constructor before starting, but I was working the puzzle thought, "This is really smooth" of course, a Saturday Silkie.

    Just an FYI for @Barry G-- with closed head trauma you can still have a concussion with a normal CT. Concussions don't show up on CTs-- contusions- yes, bleeds- yes, concussions--no. Follow the post concussion guidelines about resuming activities. If your doctor didn't give you those, ask her/him.

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  8. Something fishy there. No doctor is going to rule out a concussion from looking at a CT scan.

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  9. Good morning Splynter, C.C. et al.

    Thanks for pulling us through this Saturday Silkie, Splynter! Yep, I also had bull riding before CALF ROPING. And MOZZARELLA didn't dawn on me until I had filled in M---ARELLA. I kept wanting "marshmallo" but knew that wasn't how it's spelled...

    I loved seeing the cluster of ZZZZs in rows 3&4. Great stuff, which is what we always assume we'll get from Barry Silk!

    TTP @ 7:56, you are only just now starting to shop? Good luck with that!

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  10. Anon at 8:06, good advice about the concussion. Be careful BG.

    Barry Silk always makes me almost give up but thrn it is done.

    I had a friend who grew up on Kwajalein (sp?) Where her parents gave her Ritz crackers and told her they were cookies. It was remote.

    49 degrees here in SoFla. All the unused fireplaces getting some work. Enjoy

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  11. Alas, a DNF here. After nearly twenty minutes with everything else filled but a largely empty NE corner remaining, I switched to "Regular Skill Level" and was reduced to entering letters at random 'til I stopped seeing red. MOZZARELLA never occurred to me (I had the LL so was thinking JELLY or even JELLO). Neither did PUZZLEBOOK or SOZZLED (?). I had GOOSE, SOLO, and OSLO early but they did me little good. Tomorrow, as they say, is another day.

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  12. Barry’s post apocalyptic puzzle was a delight! The long fills gave themselves up easily even though I have never seen/heard of a PIZZA BAGEL (not a pizza roll). Gotta love all the Z’s!

    Musings
    -NASA names, Booby Darin and Four Season Lyrics are a gimme for me!
    -I have never heard anyone around here say LET”S go get a PIE instead of LET’S go get a PIZZA
    -I’ve had my GOOSE cooked but have never eaten any
    -The DIKEs in NOLA failed in Katrina
    -When some Easter eggs are left unfound, we play “Getting warmer, getting colder”
    -Does knowledge of AUNT Bee cross generations?
    -SNEAKY PETE was the chosen vintage for the pajama party in Grease
    -Our MALL here in town has been INADEQUATE for almost 50 years and I much prefer the one where Forest Gump splashed out to see Jenny
    -The Huskers have a nice young wide receiver named Kenny Bell with a huge FRO. T-shirts now abound that say “Throw to the Fro!”. Not as cool as Otto’s t-shirt story, but not bad!
    -Many political LIEUTENANTS are trotted out to take a bullet for their bosses
    -Firewood at 49°F, Lemon? I’d be getting the clubs back out!
    -HBTY Misty!

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  13. Exhilirating Saturday walk in the park. Very enjoyable. Thank you.

    "Bee's address? : AUNT - I tried "HIVE", since it's the bee's home..."

    Hand up.


    "Environmentally friendly crop : HEMP - um, yep, the fibers are quite useful (too)."

    Yeah, but smoking the fibers won't lead you to believe that Selassie was the reincarnation of Christ. So not much fun there.

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  14. Misty, Happy Birthday !!! Enjoy your staycation.

    DNF, or what I call ... my normal Barry Silk experience.
    (I think I was on his "wave-length" maybe twice this year).

    Wasn't aware that HEMP is environmentally friendly.
    Though its "buds" are user friendly here at Villa Incognito.

    Husker: I've explained that 49°F is 2° below "freezing" here in Florida.

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  15. Small point....Aunt Bea's name is a shortened version of Beatrice.....in case you are wondering.....hive was a good choice given the misleading clue...

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  16. Good morning:

    I love Silkie's puzzles. As D-Otto said, at first they seem daunting but usually if you have enough patience and perseverance, you get the Ta-da. That said, I did have a few write- overs: promontory before escarpment, tool before tecs, and gruel before goose.

    Anyway, thanks Barry S. for another "smooth as Silk" work-out and thanks to Splynter for a super review.

    Happy Birthday, Misty, and enjoy your staycation. Feel better soon, Barry. Linda, hope your DH is feeling better.

    Julianna Margulies is not only a beautiful, talented actress, she is a warm and loving person. Two years ago, when she accepted her Emmy, she thanked her in-laws for raising such a wonderful man. I don't remember her exact words, but it was a very sincere and touching tribute to her husband.

    No snow yet but very windy and cold. Happy Saturday.

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  17. Good morning everyone.

    Happy Birthday, Misty. Hope your staycation is memorable.

    DNF; got 15 of 16 tries correctly, though. Pretty good for me on a Silky Saturday.

    Good wishes to all our ailing members.

    Cheers

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  18. Anon @10:04
    Small point but on the Andy Griffith Show the character's name was (IN FACT) Aunt BEE.

    per Wiki

    IMBd

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  19. Dear C.C.--after your lovely menu yesterday I just had to check the blog before we left this morning, and there was your amazing birthday card in the sand! I just can't believe your sweetness and kindness. And then your lovely wishes, Tinbeni, Irish Rose, Sallie, and others. Who knew that my 68th would turn out to be one of my best birthdays ever! Thank you all so much. This blog is one of the best things to come along in my senior years!

    And if that weren't enough, I got almost a whole Silkie for the first time!

    Have a gorgeous holiday everybody!

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  20. Hello, Splynter and all weekend warriors.

    Thanks, Barry Silk, for good entertainment this morning. Quickly sailed through some of it, the NW, SW and east central. Loved CASSEROLES and ESCARPMENT in there.

    Returned to bed, arose again at 10 and saw SKI LODGE where some blanks stared at me. That prompted DAWN GO AWAY. Chuckled at AUNT Bee, got rid of ON TAP, changed to UNCAP.

    Had to use the dreaded Ggle for DO YA and that was the last to fall.

    Hope everyone is having a SAFE and beautiful Saturday!

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  21. Happy birthday, Misty! I hope your staycation is memorable.

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  22. Saturday Silkie (sigh)
    1) Oh well, turn red letters on,
    2) hit Solve for any & all obscure names.
    3) Go to Blog to understand 90% of the rest of the puzzle.

    (Actually, i have to puzzle over each & every entry until i absolutely must know the answer, which makes going to the Blog a necessity...)


    I have mentioned Ray William Johnsons =3 in the past, with a caveat about foul language. So i never linked it. But todays reviewed the baby stealing eagle video, & has about 99.9% of the foul language bleeped out. So here it is.

    One note of caution, he opens with Mr. Rodgers, so 00.1% of the foul language is visual.

    Happy Birthday Misty Welcome to our classroom!

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  23. PEPPERONI came before MOZZARELLA and the toaster oven treat was originally PIZZA ROLLS. Though for anyone who has ever tasted them, they would know that is a misnomer.

    The skeleton opening was ESS for quite some time.

    The tactical delay was WAIT, which I prefer over SOON.

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  24. HBD, Misty. Hope you and DH enjoy that staycation.

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  25. DNF, even after molto Googles.

    However, I remember in the short story, "We Can Remember It for Your Wholesale," by Philip K. Dick, and the basis for the movie, Total Recall, SNEAKY PETEs were guns.

    And the Mariana Trench is the deepest part of the ocean, at 7 Miles Deep. Until Cameron duplicated the feat, I never believed Piccard had gone down 50 years before.

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  26. I gave up on this after entering CORN at 5 down and
    LABOR LAWS at 32 across and couldn't let go of them , wich of course resulted in nothing working around them.

    DIKE , GAYS , SOLO , WTF.

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  27. Good afternoon, everyone! Loved this Saturday Silkie – ultimately do-able with just enough “sass” in the cluing to make it a fun and challenging solve. Unknowns for me were LOEB and ALSOP, but perps were solid. Couldn’t remember an ELO hit song called DOYA, but took it on faith – thanks for the enlightenment and the musical link, Splynter. Also appreciated the info on Queen ALEXANDRA; she really was a beauty!

    Happy, happy birthday to Misty! Glad you’re enjoying your special day, including the lovely message in the sand from C.C. – how sweet!

    TTP, daughter and SIL are currently living in WACO while he’s teaching at Baylor University. We visited this Fall when our granddaughter was born. It’s a two-day drive from our home in SW Ohio, so I think we’ll fly next time.

    Off to enjoy a holiday lunch with extended family at one of my favorite restaurants.

    Have a great weekend!

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  28. Hello everybody. I also like Barry Silk puzzles, for all the same reasons you all have mentioned. Love the terrific fill! And some awesome clues. "Sweet girl" is my favorite, followed closely by "Bee's address". I usually don't care for clues like "____ impasse" and "El ____", though.

    To me, "Iowa corn fed beef" means cattle fattened up on corn that is grown in Iowa, not that the cattle were raised in Iowa. So, is Iowa corn superior to, say, Illinois corn?

    Happy birthday, Misty, and best wishes to you all.

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  29. Done!
    Those Zs really had me going for a while. Is MOZZARELLA really to be found on that many pies? Are we using the local reference (which has always grated on me) to pizzas as "pies"?
    Maybe MOZZARELLA can be found on one or two real pies; a more accurate clue might say "some" or even "several," but "many"...?

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  30. Happy Day After Armageddon everyone….

    A real toughie for me today, even after red letters and solve word gifts….

    Hands up for wait, hive, gruel, key. Also wanted outdoors for ski lodge….

    Only gimme was Alou, for the obvious reason….

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  31. On this very busy day I spent an hour on this excellent Silkie in several sittings. I left early to beat the crowd at the super market. Then I got back to the puzzle whenever I was tired enough to need a break. I was determined to win and I did.

    Very interesting and enjoyable puzzle.Two "DUH"s held me up. I thought of and rejected HASP in the first 3 minutes. Soon after that I rejected SOZZLED as probably too uncommon. Therefore the top center was my last to fill until I accepted those answers and got all the ZZs. Here in the northeast with all its Italian pizzerias we call them pies and pizzas interchangeably. They are actually tomato pies. I was racking my brain for dessert pie toppings, but many, many pies (tomato pies) in this area are topped with MOZZARELLA. Clever misdirection.

    My other DUH was caused by looking for a negative instead of a slangy approval at 61 A. It messed up that corner until I saw the error of my ways.

    To me SNEAKY PETE is a half serious appellation for a sneaky kid. Ripple would be the cheap wine .

    Happy birthday, Misty. Enjoy your special weekend.

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  32. piz·za/ˈpit sə/ Show Spelled [peet-suh] Show IPA
    noun
    a flat, open-faced baked pie of Italian origin, consisting of a thin layer of bread dough topped with spiced tomato sauce and cheese, often garnished with anchovies, sausage slices, mushrooms, etc.
    Also called pizza pie.

    When I was a kid and lived out in the sticks, we called it pizza pie.
    Before anyone jumps on it, there is technically a certtain type of pizza called tomato pie.

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  33. Dictionary.com:
    piz·za/ˈpit sə/ Show Spelled [peet-suh] Show IPA
    noun
    a flat, open-faced baked pie of Italian origin, consisting of a thin layer of bread dough topped with spiced tomato sauce and cheese, often garnished with anchovies, sausage slices, mushrooms, etc.

    Also called pizza pie.

    As a hick kid living out in the sticks we called it "pizza pie." I understand that technically tomato pie is a specific type of pizza pie, but in reality all of them are pies made of toamtoes. Dough plus topping.

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  34. This was a strange on for me. I got the whole NW in a bout 90 seconds and thought this can't be a Silkie. Then I started on the rest in my usual slow crawl using RED letters.

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  35. TTP:
    To me, "Iowa corn fed beef" refers to something that for the most part no longer exists. Back in the day, most of the corn grown on Midwestern (and most other) farms was marketed as meat or milk. In other words, most farms grew corn to feed to their own livestock, and a lot of them fed their cattle to "finish" or slaughter weights rather than selling them as feeder calves at a lighter weight.
    These days, corn is a commodity and most cow/calf operations sell their calves to huge feedlots which finish at very small profit margins but in large volumes.
    There are a few of us left who grow our calves from birth to slaughter, but the percentage we account for is minuscule.
    Is this what you were thinking?

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  36. Happy birthday Misty!

    The mozzarella clue seemed clever to me. I didn't figure it out at first but once some of the crossing letters filled in, I got it with a groan. Almost all pizza has tomato sauce and cheese as the basic ingredients and the cheese is almost always mozzarella. I like it as string cheese also.

    I've never eaten roast goose. A friend from northern California (Fort Bragg) sent me two goose eggs carefully wrapped. They were BIG and had a little different flavor. It's always easier (for me) to prefer what I'm used to. While I haven't eaten goose, I've eaten duck a couple of times. It's OK but I much prefer turkey.

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  37. Afternoon everyone,
    Great write up and links. I managed to get enough of this puzzle done to feel satisfied with my effort. Many of the answers I initially wanted to write into the grid ended up being correct.

    Barry, I hope your doc gave you a thorough list of precautions. As anon said a CT scan will only show a bleed. You can develop mild concussive syndrome without loosing consciousness. However, I don't think any of us had heard of SOZZLED so not to worry there.

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  38. Bill G. My mom roasted the best duck and goose I have ever tasted, with the exception of some Chinese restaurants’ versions of Peking duck. Mom purchased the ducks and geese live from local farmers. The roasts were never greasy or gamey. I am chicken so I stick to turkey. I have never killed any type of fowl in my life. Either my son or I have served roast beef and Yorkshire pudding on Christmas for the last 45-50 years. After many years it is my turn to host Christmas dinner because David is renovating his kitchen and entire downstairs.

    I just now phoned my sister in the northern Chicago suburbs. She is having all of her sons and daughters home for Christmas at the same time for the first time in ages. We were greatly concerned about the travel disruptions in the Chicago area, but they all made it home in reasonable time.

    Sorry for my double post @2:12. My post disappeared while I was editing it and I didn't realize it had published.

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  39. Good afternoon, folks. Thank you, Barry Silk, for a great puzzle. Thank you, Splynter, for the greta review.

    Got started easily with a few, but then slowed down.

    CASSEROLES was my first long answer. CALF ROPING was easy once I got rid of the WIDE for 49D and wrote in LCDS.

    Took a long time to get the 4 Seasons song. I could hear it in my head, just could not figure it out. Finally got a few perps and that did it. DAWN GO AWAY.

    ALEXANDRA with perps and wags.

    My hangup area was in the North Center and the NE. Had CORN for a while for 5D. Finally got MOZZARELLA. That told me CORN was wrong. PUZZLE BOOK appeared after a while. Never heard of LOEB for 10D. OSLO became obvious once I thought about i and got a couple letters.

    SOZZLED was a tough word. ALOU was easy after a letter or two.

    Finished on the train coming back form Chicago. Spent most of the day at the Tuba Christmas concert at the Palmer House in Chicago. Took my tuba and was one of 358 tubas that played It was great. Lots of fun.

    See you tomorrow.

    Abejo

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  40. What a day. I should have started my shopping earlier... Not a lot of smiling faces out there.

    Windhover, I've always been intrigued by that phrase "Iowa corn fed beef." I seem to recall it in commercials. Never knew whether it meant they were Iowa cattle or fed Iowa corn. After all, Iowa is one of the larger beef producing states. And yet I realize, like you said, that most cattle are finished off on corn. I'd probably have to have both a corn fed and grass fed steak side by side to see if I could tell the difference. I've had both, but never at the same time.

    Yellowrocks, I stopped at the grocers on the way home and bought a bone in rib roast and pint of whole milk for our Christmas Day supper. OK, dinner. The whole milk is for the Yorkshire pudding. I tried to make it once with 2 %, which is what we drink, but it wasn't the same. Last year I tried Paula Dean's "Foolproof Standing Rib Roast" recipe (to the T)and it was excellent. Our tradition isn't nearly as long as yours. However, I have had Pork Roast, sauerkraut and kielbasa on New Years Day for nearly as long, excepting the years I was in Germany. We always have friends over. Even those that don't care for sauerkraut rave about our family recipe. I'm looking forward to the New Year.

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  41. Thank you all for the walks down many memory lanes...

    Sauerkraut and kielbasa on New Years Day
    Wonderful roast duck
    Raising our own beef cattle and frying chickens
    Hunting our own wild game, fishing and stocking our freezer with same
    And many other mentions that made me smile

    Now it is only my son, his son and myself for Christmas dinner... we will fix our scaled down traditional turkey dinner... :)

    The puzzles took a back seat this week... if they didn't come easy I had to let them go... :)

    Thank you all again.... I truly am wishing each and everyone a wonderful Holiday Season....

    thelma

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  42. Thelma:
    Enjoy your dinner with family, and say hi to Louise. ;)

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  43. RIP Lee Dorman, in the garden of life.

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  44. Windhover... thanx for the thoughts... may you and yours have a great Christmas... dinner and all... :)

    Louise would have enjoyed this group very much.. :)

    thelma

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