Saturday Themeless by Kyle Dolan
I have no triskaidekaphobia so my thirteenth blogging of a themeless Saturday puzzle for Dr. Dolan did not fill me with any dread. Seeing "Works" as a verb (7. Works for literati: HIGH ART) instead of a noun really hung me up in the NE. Each section of this fun puzzle took one key word/phrase to unlock.
Across:
1. Stock option in a seafood business?: BISQUE - Traditionally, lobster bisque is made with a stock that 5. Exploits: USES whole lobster shells. Recipe for lobster stock.
7. Works for literati: HIGH ART - Works of art, not art workers
14. Rather dense: OBTUSE - This remark to the warden in Shawshank Redemption got Andy Dufresne thrown into solitary confinement
16. Knesset country: ISRAEL - The Israeli lawmaking body and 51. Ancient Roman province now part of modern 16-Across: JUDAEA - An alternate spelling of Judea
17. Digits in parentheses: AREA CODE.
18. Isn't quite neutral: LEANS - All of us can think of a news outlet that LEANS in one political direction or the other
19. Signer of the first of the Oslo Accords: ABBAS - Mahmoud ABBAS was the Palestinian negotiator and is standing on the far right in this signing ceremony.
20. Pad kee mao pan: WOK - Why this is called "Drunken Noodles"
21. Huff: SNIT.
22. One of many on Massachusetts Avenue in D.C.: EMBASSY - A clickable map
24. __ machine: GUMBALL - The GUMBALL machine took a penny and the pinball machine took a nickel in my misspent youth.
26. Dappled horses: ROANS.
30. Chat: SCHMOOZE.
32. Washington's Grand __ Dam: COULEE - On the mighty Columbia River in Washington state.
33. Webinar's first slide, often: OUTLINE - 1) Tell them what you are going to say, 2) Tell them, 3) Tell them what you just told them.
34. Treat traditionally paired with RC Cola in the South: MOON-PIE.
35. Like Robert Johnson's music: BLUESY - The Gateway To The Blues Museum in Tunica, MS. has this display of Robert Johnson memorabilia. I wonder if you can get an RC and Moon-Pie there.
36. Styling combs: RATTAILS.
37. Fifth-century bishop in Ire.: ST. PATrick
38. Tempts: LURES IN.
39. Grammar police, e.g.: PURISTS.
41. Took off: LEFT.
44. Help for a broken-hearted BFF: TLC.
47. Some IRAs: ROTHS - Retirement withdrawals are tax-free
48. Bass kin: CELLO - Not a fish, shoe or singing voice
49. "OK, sure": YEAH I BET - "If elected, I will..."
52. Diet option in black cans: COKE ZERO.
54. Zen harmony: ONENESS.
55. Can't stand: DETEST.
Down:
1. Sanitizes, perhaps: BOILS.
2. Playwright called "The Father of Realism": IBSEN - "He turned the European stage away from what it had become – a plaything and distraction for the bored – and introduced a new order of moral analysis." You're welcome.
3. Truthfully: STRAIGHT UP - "Don't sugar coat it, tell me STRAIGHT UP!"
4. Dramatic advance: QUANTUM LEAP - Technology made a QUANTUM LEAP with the discovery of transistors
6. London's __ Pie Island: EEL - Probably named for the EEL pies that used to be served there at an inn in the 1800's
7. Ancient physician's reference book: HERBAL - A page from one
8. Bean sprouts?: IDEAS - Bean is a euphemism for head, so...
9. Bottom-up, in a way: GRASS ROOTS.
10. "__ sunt dracones": line on an ancient globe: HIC - That area is unknown, so "Here be dragons"
11. Profess: AVOW.
12. Take from the top: REDO - Director/Star Charlie Chaplin did 62 takes of this scene of him eating a shoe (it was actually made of licorice)
13. Long haul: TREK - The start of the Appalachian Trail that ends 2190 miles north at Mt. Katahdin, Maine. That is quite a TREK.
15. Raucous crowd: RABBLE.
19. Floor: AMAZE.
22. Magazine whose archive was purchased by a consortium that includes the Smithsonian: EBONY.
23. "Bingo": YOU NAILED IT.
25. Keep from cracking, perhaps: MOISTURIZE.
27. Yellowstone, for one: ALPINE LAKE - An ALPINE LAKE occurs at high elevations and Yellowstone Lake is almost 8,000' above sea level.
28. Good name for a knight?: NEIL - NEIL Armstrong did meet Queen Elizabeth but did not kneel before the queen to become a knight
29. Dates: SEES.
30. Breaks down: SOBS.
31. Unorthodox sect: CULT.
32. Pigeon holes: COTES - The pigeons in Terry Malloy's (Marlin Brando) rooftop COTE in On The Waterfront were symbols of innocence in his rough world
34. Trading places: MARTS - Where you trade cash for merchandise
36. Try and reach quickly: RUSH TO.
38. Shampoo buys: LITERS - My Head and Shoulders comes in a 700 ml or .7 LITER size
40. Spa wear: ROBES.
42. Hurries toward safety: FLEES.
43. Brown bread: TOAST - A toaster can brown bread after which you have brown bread
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| Revolution Toaster - $349.00 |
45. "Sex on Fire" Grammy winners Kings of __: LEON - Gee, Gary, I'd like to hear that tune
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| Three brothers and a cousin that named their band after their grandfather LEON |
46. Candle holder: CAKE - My next one will hold 76 candles
48. Pyrite crystal, at times: CUBE - A pyrite crystal mounted on a piece of basalt
50. Female lobster: HEN.
51. Abbey's husband on "The West Wing": JED.
We certainly welcome Kyle to stop by and make a comment below.
From impossible I got down yo SW. YEAH I BET came to me as we were driving . I had ankh,ohmNESS.. I should have remembered HEN from my lobster shocking job when I was 17.
ReplyDeleteBut I FIR. My FIWs seem to occur on Monday or Tuesday.
This was herculean for me.
I guessed ??D RIVER would be RED. But I thought it was UT and A&M(But no river)
ROTH IRA was bedrock but he'll to perp
The S in ISRAEL gave me IBSEN. I was desperate for footholds
Well, after it's TOASTed the bread is brown
Phew as my wordle said when #6 clicked
WC
I should have proofread but I seem to need to publish the second that I paste
ReplyDeleteGood morning!
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't a PARK, but a LAKE. "Pad kee mao pan" had nothing to do with a knee pad, he said dyslexically. Didn't know there were islands in the Thames. Where did that A in JUDAEA come from? My PURISTS were PEDANTS. Yes, I'm stalling to avoid admitting to another DNF. That whole SW corner with that ancient tuna wager (YE AHI BET) escaped me. I hang my head in defeat. Thanx, Kyle and Husker.
Wilbur, did you use a car battery to shock those lobsters?
Loved this puzzle. Just the right difficulty. Of course and puzzle that has moon pie as an answer does it for me.
ReplyDeleteGood Morning:
ReplyDeleteCoincidentally, Kyle made an appearance just yesterday in that other paper. I very much enjoyed today’s challenge which, unfortunately, I FIW due to the Alpine Lake/Judaea crossing. I had Alpine Like, not knowing Yellowstone was a Lake and thinking Judiea was a variation of Judea, the only way I’ve ever seen it spelled. I liked the abundance of lively fill and the scarcity of three letter words and minimal proper nouns. My favorite C/A was Good name for a knight=Neil. Tyco, Leon, Cube, and Hic all needed perps.
Thanks, Kyle, for a satisfying, if incorrect, solve and thanks, HG, for the insights and sparkling eye candy visuals!
Have a great day.
This took me 18:35 to finish. About 1/3 of that time was spent in the top-left. I had "sigh" before "snit," and "folksy" before "bluesy," which prevented the longer downs from coming to light. "Rabble" crossing "Abbas" was nearly fatal.
ReplyDeleteOverall, a good theme-less puzzle.
PS. I believe the clue for Coke Zero ("Diet option in black cans") is outdated, as Coca Cola rebranded/reformulated about one year ago. Coke Zero is now sold in red cans.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous at 8:27
D-O, we shucked them after they were steamed, a whole bin full. Lobster was no longer a delicacy for a long time .
ReplyDeleteOne of my favorite dishes was Moo goo gai "pan". I don't think "pan " was what they cooked it in
I think the extra A in JUDAEA combines with E for a dipthong
WC
Not to be a PURIST, but "HERBAL" is not a book. The ancient (and also modern) physician's books may reference herbs and herbal cures.
ReplyDeleteOnly one example of actual old maps has been found with HIC SUNT DRACONES, though many used drawings of lions and mythical creatures on the edges an unexplored regions.
I had a hard time getting started on this puzzle. The first answer I got was "Israel." The second was "uses." So I figured there might be a "Q" in the mix. After I came up with "bisque" the rest of the puzzle came easier. And I spent a long time looking at "flees" vs. "flies" but figured ae was a common Greco/Roman combination so I went with that, and I'm glad I did. Gradually, through P&P the puzzle fell into place. Finally, I FIR, so I'm happy.
ReplyDeleteBTW, folks, I found out this morning that my brother Gary got me an Iphone. He added a phone to his account - it only cost him $5.00 to do it. He wants to wait until next Saturday to give it to me, because then both my brothers and I are getting together, and he wants my other brother, Kim, to come over to my house and "help me set it up." I don't know what all is involved in "setting up" an Iphone but apparently it's a fairly complicated process. Kim is a tech professional and what he doesn't know about computers and smart phones hasn't been invented yet. I'm a little impatient to get my hands on the phone, but I can wait a week, it won't kill me. Just a little vignette from my life, folks, thank's for listening!
Thank you Kyle for a Saturday TREK to a hard fought FIR. I literally had to 'rassel it to the mat and pummel it into submission.
ReplyDeleteLike Gary for me it seemed that there was a roadblock in each of the four quadrants (or in my BEAN maybe) that had to be clear before I could fill them. Nice review Gary.
Favs:
4D QUANTUM LEAP. Not a LEAP actually, as the distances between quantum levels in an atom are almost infinitesimally small, and the particles don't actually "move" - they disappear at one level and simultaneously appear at another. Spooky! But Kyle clued it correctly - the discovery of quantum mechanics was truly a "dramatic advance".
16A ISRAEL. First foothold but I needed BISQUE before I could fill the NW. Here's my recipe for Oyster Shrip BISQUE. If you don't like oysters, it has substitutes.
17A HIGH ART. Another logjam. 8D IDEA and 22A EMBASSY helped break this one. We live close to D.C. and often ride up EMBASSY ROW when we're in town. Many beautiful mansions for the DIPLOMATATI.
37A ST PAT. Saint Patrick was the very first Christian missionary, i.e. the first to evangelize outside the civilized world (i.e. the Roman Empire). When he got to Ireland, the natives were still practicing human sacrifice.
39A PURIST. Probably the biggest logjam. I held on to PEDANTS for far too long, but couldn't get anything to work with it. Eventually I let it go and the fill in the SW started to flow.
48D CUBE. Got this right away, but couldn't cross it, thinking that BASS had something to do with a fish or the B in SATB, but then saw CELLO.
51A JUDAEA. As the Romans played a big part in Biblical history, I knew this had to be tucked away in my brain somewhere, but ... I haven't seen the West Wing and only had the last two letters of 51D _ED" thinking "NED"? "TED?" and finally "JED" ...V8!
Cheers,
Bill
Anonymous @ 8:47 AM You''re right about the COKE ZERO can. Maybe this gives us a guesstimate as to how long it took the puzzle to make its way through the supply chain.
FIR, in four sessions. Almost threw in the towel a few times, but sometimes being stubborn has its benefits.
ReplyDeleteErased wordart for HIGHART, negative for AREACODE, pinball for GUMBALL, welcome for OUTLINE, edits for BOILS, doe for HEN, and coolie for COULEE (UNTIE!). Favorite was "bean sprouts" for IDEAS.
I've spent a lot of time on the RED RIVER, specifically the Lake Texoma part. Texoma is more melodic than the alternative, Oklas. Crossword utility personality H Ross Perot had a huge estate just upstream from the dam.
If you paid $349 for a TOASTer, you got burned.
An RC Cola and a MOON PIE isn't a treat, it's a staple.
I found out the hard way that COKE ZERO contains caffeine.
In the Ocala National Forest, you can use an EBIKE only if you have to pedal it to make it go.
Thanks to Kyle for the challenge, which was right at the edge of my capability. And thanks to Gary for the fun and interesting tour.
When you see a J, Q, and Z, it looks like all the letters might be used, but I didn't see an X. Opportunity missed. :-)
ReplyDeleteNot bad for a Saturday but with some stubborn fill I decided to accept a DNF.
ReplyDeleteCouldn't find a letter that would go with __ ITER and L didn't make sense. Isn't it Litres Canada Eh? Never heard of RATTAILS. Looks like IBSEN could use one 😆
Judea wouldn't fit. Knew of the Latin spelling but figured it was wrong. EBIKES? Had ALP to start " Yellowstone" so was "tempted" to at least partially fill ALPINE but couldn't see the connection to the park or TV series.. Plus summer is once again flying by and it's a beautiful day off. Another lame DNF excuse (YEAH I BET)
I first thought "pan" was a Chinese word, part of the clue itself.
I guess Grand Coulee Dam was more acceptable than Big A** Dike! 🤗🤗. "Pyrite crystal at times" (mounted on basalt) Seriously? That's the clue for CUBE?
HERBAL: Our Italian university medical school is so old the joke was there were only two courses when it opened in the 12th century: "Anatomy" and "Herbs".
Liked "Bean sprouts" as IDEAS (I wondered at first if hair would work). Never watched "The West Wing". Learned about the HEN lobster here from CWs.
I remember as a little guy when my Gram still had this style toaster
Kelly Girls...TEMPTS
Robbins' partner...Bass kin
Labyrinth...AMAZE
Husker, keep a fire exintinguisher at the ready when you light those candles. HUFF and puff and try to blow them out...🎂🧯
Have a nice weekend to all my Cornerite RABBLE...😃
Nice challenging Saturday puzzle. A few misses in the NE corner, but basically FIR.
ReplyDeleteThe puzzles seem to be getting back to what we’ve expected in the past, so that is good.
Wow, I’m amazed I managed to FIR at all, though it took an excruciating 46 minutes to do so. First pass yielded six fills, and I almost gave up. Then slowly starting in the SW with LEON then CAKE then COKEZERO and I was on my way. I LOVE the scarcity of proper names! See, other constructors, it CAN be done. Last to fill was the NE: AVOW:AVER is always a “wait for perps” situation. “Ancient physician’s reference book” I tried fitting in GALEN, but no. Anyway, a very challenging CW to keep the synapses (sp?) firing. Thanx, KD. And thanx too to HG for the fine write-up. The recipe for drunken noodles looks like too many “do not have” ingredients.
ReplyDeleteWhat a nice Saturday puzzle by Kyle without very few proper names, which I DETEST in the A&E puzzles. I'm glad the perps were solid because there's no way London's EEL Pie Island or HIC sunt dracones would have ever filled- those and JED & TYCO were unknowns today.
ReplyDeleteThe cross of ALPINE LAKE and JUDAEA was a toss up between I or A. Yellowstone is Alpine LIKE but JUDIEA looked stranger than JUDAEA. I.M.- I guessed right.
RED RIVER rivalry- BE's and Anon-T's HS teams against teams from Bossier City- across the Red River from our schools.
E-BIKES- there are a few in my neighborhood and I'm afraid some kids are about to have some serious accidents because they go too fast. Some of my friends have E-ASSIST BIKES that only help if you are pedaling. Don't pedal; they don't work.
STRAIGHT UP now tell me
Do you really want to love me forever oh, oh, oh
Or am I caught in a hit and run? Song by Paula Abdul.
FLN:
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CED, you'll enjoy Marple. And, while it's really good - it's not a funny link. Get back to work, pal! :-)
Sorry, I don't usually do funny links on Saturdays, because Saturday puzzles are serious business...
(And they don't have themes to make fun of...)
But your last line makes me think you did not watch my 2nd link, The Murder at Haversham Manor.
Yes, it starts a little dry, but if you can't watch the whole thing (10 minutes) I implore you to at least watch between 6 and 8 minutes and tell me what you think...
Oh, and then you ended with:
Cheers,-T
*watch the whole thing; it's hilarious
(But did not indicate where the asterisk refers back to?)
(Maybe you did watch it?)
Today:
Enjoyable! One of my better Saturdays, as while really hard, one letter kept leading to a lot of sussing and "ahas."
This kept on going for quite some time, until I DNF'd in the NE from exhaustion.
One thing that got me was 20. Pad kee mao pan
( I thought "pan" was part of the name of the dish...)
My DW and daughters love Thai food, and I am forced to partake every now and then.
But I never know what to order?
The very 1st time, I had something I loved! The 2nd time I ordered the same thing (I think) and hated it!
(What follows is a long tale/rant/possible PSA)
I can never remember names.
So much so that I resort to memory games (I forget the word) to help.
Like, DW has a friend with the last name tepadino that I never forget because I imagine The Flintstones dog in a warm water bathtub. ( Tepid Dino... )
So, next time the family drags me to a Thai place, I am going to imagine praying to a Chinese Chairman on knee pads to get the correct meal... (Pad Kee Mao?)
Now that it's finished, I wonder why it took so long to get a FIR! But I needed all morning with breaks from puzzling to solve it today. Thanks, Kyle, for a good project on a rainy day.
ReplyDeleteHand up for trouble in the NE and SE, with WOK only coming to mind after I had the O and K. Yes, I thought pan was part of the Chinese dish's name, too, Ray-O. And the JED/JUDAEA crossing was my last fill after trying tED and nED like you, waseeley. I put paRenTS before PURISTS, which slowed things down. Somehow LITERS seemed like an enormous amount of shampoo to buy at a time, but it worked. I'll join in the RABBLE, slowed down by ABBAS doubts.
All I can say is I'm happy to have my FIR confirmed by you today, Husker Gary! Thanks! Hope you all have some sunshine today to enjoy.
Sad to say, DNF. The SW and the NE got me. I really wanted that HUG, instead of TLC. I too thought the word pan was part of the Chinese phrase. Sometimes I can be obtuse. I too liked IDEAS for bean sprouts.
ReplyDeleteMany, many years ago an elderly friend of my sister’s in Lutcher, LA, made the most delicious crawfish bisque. It was a laborious endeavor, but so worth it for us since she generously shared.
Thanks for the nice write-up Gary and the invitation to comment. I made this puzzle in 2020, as a companion piece to another 68-word themeless that was published a couple months ago. Regular solvers may recall QUANTUM COMPUTER in a previous LAT themeless of mine from several months ago; with QUANTUM LEAP appearing today, and QUBIT running in another of my publications just yesterday, I think it might be time for me to take a break from putting quantum tech entries in crosswords for a while. In my own defense, I spend a lot of time thinking about quantum tech for my job, so I can't help if it creeps into my puzzlemaking :-).
ReplyDeleteI hope you enjoyed solving this one. It's great to see the commentary thus far!
ReplyDeleteThanks, Kyle. Thanks, Gary.
The opening slide of my presentations was almost always WELCOME. Occasionally it was a title slide. Then an overview or OUTLINE slide, followed by the subject material slides, and finally a summary slide. I too was taught to tell them what you are going to tell them, then tell them, then tell them what you told them. And never ever never put something on a chart or a slide that you can't explain.
Combining the incorrect WELCOME with the incorrect GRADALL machine, I was doomed for failure in the west, but everything else fell into place rather smoothly.
Getting ready to hit the road for a "grandchilrens' trip" to Bass Lake which, is as of now, close to a wildfire so I do not know how the next few days will play out.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the great recap, Gary. It was fun to see E-BIKE in the puzzle as I took delivery of my first e-bike on Monday!
Have a great weekend, everyone.
As a fellow who is fascinated by languages I need to apologize to my Asian friends. I thought like some others that pad kee mao was Chinese. It's a Thai dish as pointed out by Husker et al. Plus there is no Chinese language
ReplyDeleteMy bad
😕
How nice and kind of you to stop by, Kyle--many thanks! Saturdays are inevitably toughies for me, but I enjoyed this one nonetheless. And you always post great pictures, Gary, thanks for those too.
ReplyDeleteLoved seeing IBSEN turn up right away, a favorite playwright of mine. And then there was HIGH ART right next to him: great beginning for this puzzle, I thought. But it got a little tougher soon after that.
But I was delighted to see ST. PAT turn up a bit later.
Also nice to see a CELLO a bit farther down--wish we could have heard it play.
Subgenius, so glad to hear you're getting a new phone. Does it make you happy?
Have a great weekend, everybody.
Oh: one nit to pick with this CW. 26A: Dappled horses. I wanted PINTO but the clue was plural. Finally after a few perps I filled ROANS correctly. But “Dappled” per the edictionary: “Having spots of a different shade, tone, or color from the background; mottled.“ HG, you showed some pictures of ROANS and they are not “dappled”.
ReplyDeleteMy bad also, I mindlessly referred to the “Chinese” clue. Of course no Chinese language per se and the dish is Thai. Always a learning experience when visiting this blog.
ReplyDeleteHave a nice weekend all.
Me, too. Senior slippage trouble today.
DeleteTante and Ray - I hereby sentence you to 20 lashes with a (crossword staple) udon. (I know, I know, them thar udons are Japanese, not Chinese or Thai. But their words for it don't frequent The Corner too much. I think better than I writ. Or spel.)
ReplyDeleteMisty, I'm over the moon about getting a new smartphone, especially an I-phone. That's "top of the line", after all! No more ratty government phones for me! (And, by the way, I found out that it was my brother Gary's wife, Cindy, who has the account and thought of the idea. He certainly married well, that's all I can say!
ReplyDelete(Oops, I didn't close the parenthesis. I hate it when I do that.) (Or should it be "parentheses?")
ReplyDeleteHow wonderful that you have such a supportive and caring family, Subgenius, including a loving sister-in law. You are so lucky, and that makes me so happy!
ReplyDeleteThere is no way I could possibly solve this puzzle without looking several things up. Things I had to look up include:
ReplyDeleteRobert Johnson, which gave me BLUES but not BLUESY;
London's ___ Pie Island;
Magna Doodle;
Sex on Fire;
and The West Wing.
For "Zen harmony" I kept looking for a specialized Sanskrit word such as SAMATHA. Nope.
For "Signer of the first of the Oslo Accords" I kept looking for the name of a country, not a person.
I did know EMBASSY because I remember Massachusetts Avenue being called "Embassy Row."
HEN went in, came out, then went in again.
EBONY went in, came out, then went in again when I finally realized that the webinar's first slide was not SUMMARY. That also gave me that final Y on BLUESY.
I held off on putting in MART even though I had a feeling it was right. Maybe because by that time I was losing confidence in my ability to solve this beast.
So, Gary, your next CAKE will hold 76 candles? I wonder if somehow you could be treated to a birthday concert by 76 trombones.
I, too, thought "pan" was part of the name of the food, not what it is cooked in, so WOK was a long time coming, and when it did I did a double take.
Good wishes to you all.
Damnable "alternate spelling"s!
ReplyDeleteI got the NW corner, most of the NE, and would've had the SE if I'd known we could spell JUDEA with that *#@! extra "A."
I was left with JERICHO without the "H."
Lotta good that did me. (I.e., none!)
Thank you, Dr. Dolan for the challenge. I enjoyed it before tossing in the towel. Yours is a perfect example of a class of PZL that reverses the usual relationship of clues to fills.
In this specimen we need to stumble upon many of the fills first, in order to comprehend their amusingly obscure clues. BISQUE, HIGH ART, WOK, &c.
In other cases, of course, the clue is so broad, we have no way of knowing a specific fill until perps lead us to it. AREA CODE, GUM BALL, SOBS, LITERS, &c.
Amid all these, my heart sang whenever I found a straightforward clue, one serving as a guide to a particular answer. IBSEN, EEL, HIC, even ST. PAT...
~ OMK
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DR: Sorry to report, we have no diagonals today.
I have been doing these diagonal reports for quite a while now. Sometimes I have found some delightful anagrams, especially among the main 15-letter diags on the near side (NW to SE). But I have yet to find even one where the constructor was in control. Even the most amusing seemed accidental.
I am sure there are some constructors out there who are capable of creating diagonal fills, either in straight or anagram style.
I wondered if I might have missed one or two.
But no, I doubt I have missed any. I am sure my mistake would have been pointed out!
Musings
ReplyDelete-Thanks for the note, Kyle, your puzzles are always well received here!
-As our friend NYT editor Jeff Chen noted in his write-up, a good way to get a Saturday puzzle published, like your 68-word companion to this puzzle, is to use a fun/obscure word like this beauty you included but have solid crossings to get it.
-Kyle, I hope you are in the queue again soon.
HG @4:24 PM A CSO to Ray - O!
DeleteSpezzatora is The Fonz personified
DeleteHmm,
ReplyDeleteAll this dang political stuff...
(My kids won't even let me say "oriental" anymore...)
So, in order to appease,
I will not try to remember what to eat at a Thai food place by by praying to chairman Mao on knee pads.
(I will pray to Chairman Moe...)
Hi Y'all! Groan! A brutal 53:24 minute TREK thru Kyle's puzzle. I filled 'er. Didn't enjoy 'er. Couldn't even stand to go over it again by reading Gary's expo. Sorry, Husker. Thanks anyway.
ReplyDeleteTechnically PATrick wasn't a SainT when he was a 5th century Bishop -- only a SainT after he died and was canonized. I tried PATrick which would be more correct but too long.
Yellowstone = ALPINE LAKE? All perps, laboriously found. I've been to Yellowstone twice & didn't see a lake either time. The lake is down in the caldera of a volcano, I found out after filling & LIU. There are so many other prominent features that Yellowstone is know for. This seems like an obscure adjective to me.
Lots of unknowns. Lots of red-letter runs to get toe-holds.
Jinx: my husband & I honeymooned at Lake Texoma.
My sis-in-law had a bad accident with an EBIKE over a year ago. Landed on her face unconscious. Had to be air-lifted out of the wilderness. Eye damaged. Still not back to normal, but back on her EBIKE. Addicted to it. Beware!
Waseeley @ 9:35 wrote, "37A ST PAT. Saint Patrick was the very first Christian missionary, i.e. the first to evangelize outside the civilized world (i.e. the Roman Empire). When he got to Ireland, the natives were still practicing human sacrifice."
ReplyDeleteRespectfully, but firmly, I must disagree. The first one could be St. Phillip, when he evangelizes the Ethiopian in Acts 8 (this depends on whether any Ethiopian is part of the civilized world at that time, or not).
St. Thomas is pretty firmly associated with mission work in India, and possibly in China.
And St. Andrew was active all around the Black Sea: Scythia, today's Georgia, Ukraine, Romania, but for some reason has Scotland also.
Michael @8:26 PM. I agree with all you say. But I doubt that the places you mentioned were practicing human sacrifice. However they were not above martyring the missionaries that evangelized them. A good reference on this is Thomas Cahill's "How the Irish Saved Civilization".
DeleteWaseeley -- Any of those places in the 1st Century ... who knows? (And no offense to Patrick, who indeed had a rough life.)
ReplyDeleteThird week in a row I caved ...DNF. This entry, however took the cake (definitely NOT in a culinary sense. Spent 7 hours + searching my reference library for answers and none were to be found. Again I rail against the glitzy, pop vocabulary used in these Saturday LAT drudges. Sadly, my busy weekly schedule permits me to solve only Sat/Sun puzzles (I'm 78 and still gainfully employed).. As an educator all my life I always believed that words have more meaning than their "definition". That's why I used to enjoy LAT puzzles on my weekends. That has all changed lately as LAT puzzles have drifted into the murky slime of glitziness. Roget must be a-turnin' in his grave over many of the cockamamie words and defs appearing on this page weekly.
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