tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post8225637430319868299..comments2024-03-28T15:57:45.160-05:00Comments on L.A.Times Crossword Corner: Saturday, May 5, 2018, Samuel A. Donaldson and Erik AgardZhouqin (C.C.) Burnikelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12750267554729853785noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-56134617724737566452018-05-12T12:42:39.611-05:002018-05-12T12:42:39.611-05:00This is my first post here although I’ve enjoyed L...This is my first post here although I’ve enjoyed LA Crossword Corner for quite some time. I returned to this puzzle this morning, firming believing I could crack the code. Wrong! This was one of the hardest Saturday puzzles for me. Congratulations to those of you who breezed through it. Now I will see if today’s Saturday crossword goes more smoothly for me!goodwaterbettyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07112939070398240878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-85849811299268679502018-05-06T12:02:35.816-05:002018-05-06T12:02:35.816-05:00Thanks, I'm relatively new to the blog, hated ...Thanks, I'm relatively new to the blog, hated to post a correction on a day when it is so obvious that the fellowship has suffered a great loss. My condolences to Argyle's friends and loved ones. Jay Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00467897497181541717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-56452107784641712382018-05-06T00:52:29.398-05:002018-05-06T00:52:29.398-05:00Anon-T @ 10:02 ... you're right about musical ...Anon-T @ 10:02 ... you're right about musical shifts ... there used to be a dance every weekend at the El Monte Legion Stadium (this is in the 1950s), but I haven't heard of anything like that in decades. People don't dance anymore -- barring square dancing, maybe -- I thought it was perhaps another cultural shift, but you're right: the 'music' just is not danceable.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13270740184766230842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-47318502559966479762018-05-05T23:16:39.405-05:002018-05-05T23:16:39.405-05:00Right, ABBA.
Mamma Mia 2 is coming July 18!Right, ABBA.<br />Mamma Mia 2 is coming July 18!Lucinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16278649651081244724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-68127203573524569092018-05-05T22:02:57.830-05:002018-05-05T22:02:57.830-05:00PK - Right you are... C, Eh!, so you don't get...PK - Right you are... C, Eh!, so you don't get NPR but we don't get CBC :-). <br />//wait, PK, I know Normal IL, but not Indiana. Think either are really "normal" or just meh?<br /><br />WC & OMK - Macbeth* & Hamlet puns... Funny!<br /><br />OMK - To opine re: kids these days... Look closely at some of the stuff they read - I saw Hunger Games and, IMHO, it was a cross between 1984 and Brave New World. I'm sure my elders weren't happy with me reading Asimov's Foundation nor with viewing Star Wars --- but when you think about them <i>they are</i> Shakespearian.<br /><br />Lucina - I will grudgingly admit that some Disco is OK... [see: ABBA]<br /><br />The way I see it, Rock and Roll had gone from Poppy [think early Beatles] to Rock [Stones, Who] and then got so heady & progressive [think Doors, Pink Floyd, Yes, Jethro Tull, RUSH, Moody Blues] to the point that kids couldn't dance to it [I can't dance either Roy ;-)]. Enter Disco.<br /><br />By the late '70s the pendulum swung too far and Disco peaked. The <b><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I1CP1751wJA" rel="nofollow"> backlash was ready in a big way</a></b> [and fictional WKRP's Johnny Fever played it up too!]. If #hashtag was a thing in '79, #DiscoSucks woulda been it. Little did we know, Hip-hop and Rap would follow. It wasn't 'till the '90s Rock came back w/ the likes of Grunge. <br />//I know a certain Corner HOST, rest his Soul, would back me up on my thumb-nail history. #MissingArgyle<br /><br />Cheers, -TAnonymous Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459563526290288425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-47189618040723351132018-05-05T21:11:20.708-05:002018-05-05T21:11:20.708-05:00Becky @ 1420 - ROTFL.Becky @ 1420 - ROTFL.Spitzboovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04448007368332133086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-15691203323353169022018-05-05T21:08:09.586-05:002018-05-05T21:08:09.586-05:00C.C. - Thanks for composing and posting the video....C.C. - Thanks for composing and posting the video. It is a fine, and I think enduring, remembrance of a very good man whom we were privileged to know and have in our midst.Spitzboovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04448007368332133086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-17186420203202986062018-05-05T20:46:13.309-05:002018-05-05T20:46:13.309-05:00Re: disco.
From the old American Bandstands: "...Re: disco.<br />From the old American Bandstands: "It's got a good beat and you can dance to it."<br /><br />"I don't dance, don't ask me ..."<br />Royhttps://royatlat.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-11635795622501249832018-05-05T19:51:25.207-05:002018-05-05T19:51:25.207-05:00Wilbur Chas!
This one?
- A favorite of mine.
&qu...<b>Wilbur Chas</b>!<br />This one? <br />- A favorite of mine.<br /><br />"LEAR: Thou hast seen a farmer’s dog bark at a beggar? <br />GLOUCESTER: Ay, sir.<br />LEAR: And the creature run from the cur? There thou mightst behold the great image of authority: <i>a dog’s obeyed in office</i>."Ol' Man Keith https://www.blogger.com/profile/02073553138045178596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-18068571635932185472018-05-05T19:42:24.448-05:002018-05-05T19:42:24.448-05:00Thumper and I will sit this one out. I do appreci...Thumper and I will sit this one out. I do appreciate the skill required, but 'Nuf said.<br /><br />Jayce, thanks for explaining what I am missing in puzzles that don't please me. As you mentioned, I think it is the fact based answers. If specialized knowledge is required it takes the fun out of the solving. Misdirections of General knowledge are much more fun to solve. Puns and double meanings and such things are fun to discect.<br /><br />OMK, I share your dispair over kids memorizing fictional stuff and ignoring history. And I do think it is the failure of educators and writers to make the real stuff interesting. Keep grumping!!<br /><br />Owen, I laughed out loud!<br /><br />Thanks, CC for the tour of Scott's life. <br />SwampCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06893584705424353444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-22878343397575831002018-05-05T18:54:03.861-05:002018-05-05T18:54:03.861-05:00OwenKL:
FLN: were you shocked to learn about Lindb...OwenKL:<br />FLN: were you shocked to learn about Lindbergh's double lives?<br /><br />C.C.:<br />I loved the video. So far I've seen it twice and will see it again.<br /><br />AnonT:<br />What do you mean disco sucks? I love disco!!!! It's fun, fast and easy to dance to.Lucinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16278649651081244724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-35072698274745576752018-05-05T18:43:31.429-05:002018-05-05T18:43:31.429-05:00Hi Y'all! Thanks, Samuel & Erik for a chal...Hi Y'all! Thanks, Samuel & Erik for a challenge. Thanks, Gary, for leading us once more "UNTO the breach!"<br /><br />SO LISTEN: HUGGER next to ONE ON ONE next to STRAINED next to TOILET produced an image of "How I spent my evening" yesterday and made me laugh about the agony. Feeling better now. I slept from 2 a.m. unto 5 P.M. and couldn't believe I'd slept 15 hours. Could hardly stand and TEETER out to find nourishment.<br /><br />I had to look up MUNCIE to start the puzzle. My brother once lived at Normal, Indiana so I tried that and it turned red. I used several red-letter runs to get me going in other places on the west coast.<br /><br />The collection for I ROBOT was unknown. ESP. Hand up for not knowing JOJOBA, GERI, SERT, NALA or HESS (despite raising two little boys).<br /><br />However, IM HONORED to report that I plugged in QUID PRO QUO with only the first "U" & "O" showing.<br /><br />Bravo, Jayce & Keith on your remarks. CanadianEh, I'm not so sure that your being out of the USA is any more of a deterrent to knowing some of this stuff than it is for us who live in a different part of U.S.A. I rarely do well on info from the east coast such as the BRONX ZOO. I didn't know Silent Cal's nickname or that he was TERSE. Some of it depends on where we've traveled or what we studied.PKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14570575955563406341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-78053149348954192282018-05-05T17:46:43.728-05:002018-05-05T17:46:43.728-05:00Anybody remember The Howard Savings Bank in Newark...Anybody remember The Howard Savings Bank in Newark NJ? The Bee as it was nicknamed. I worked there prior to OCS .<br /><br />Lou Groza was also a starting tackle for the Cleveland Browns.<br /><br />My solving problem is that I see something that seems like pop-cul and I blank . Half the time I actually know it. Blowing an FIR because IRO-BOT sounded funny will ruin my weekend . <br /><br />TAT has become a xword staple . I also on my second sit-down broke my rules about reading glasses and black legible ink. DollarStore sells them 2/buck . <br /><br />Shakespeare quote? How about the grouchy dog owner in the night: Out damn Spot .<br /><br />WC<br /><br />PS . Misty, glad you're sleeping well againWilbur Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08905123297841127198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-75115214230787829682018-05-05T17:01:21.403-05:002018-05-05T17:01:21.403-05:00Picard - don't feel bad. I too like ELO but I...Picard - don't feel bad. I too like ELO but I was waffling between ELO and BTO. I Googled it - <b><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=22nXyKzXtfw" rel="nofollow"> and it's disco-y. </a></b>Now I know why I don't know it. #DiscoSucks<br /><br />OMK - you made me think of my little story inre: The Bard...<br /><br />Prolog: I think everyone at the Corner can agree -- when it comes to haute-stuff, I'm a moron. DW, however, isn't but me called after her Master's Orals (this was in the '90s). She was a bit upset about how things went...<br /><br />"I blanked... I can't believed I blanked."<br />"On what?," I asked.<br />"Shakespeare. They asked me about... And I just blanked to the point Prof X said, 'just quote anything.' but I couldn't quote anything... [sobs a bit]."<br />"To be or not to be (a Masters), that is the question"<br />"Yes, I know..."<br />"Whether it is nobler ..."<br />[silence...]<br />"My mistresses eyes are nothing like the sun"<br />"Ok, you can stop now"<br />"Alas, Horacio; I knew..."<br />"Shut up!"<br /> <br />Sure, I was an ass but it was funny. #ImTheUnderstudy<br /><br />Coda: She passed and Masters was bestowed. She subsequently earned her PhD in English Lit and I'm still an ass/moron - she kinda likes me anyway.<br /><br />Cheers, -TAnonymous Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459563526290288425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-63431645958923208422018-05-05T16:44:17.435-05:002018-05-05T16:44:17.435-05:00CC: Huge thanks for creating and sharing the Santa...CC: Huge thanks for creating and sharing the Santa/Argyle video. Very beautiful and touching.<br /><br />Wow, this was a toughie! But quite fair and educational. When I finally figured out ANKLE TAT it opened up that final section for me. I dislike TATs as they represent a lack of long term thinking to me. The clue was clever! Hand up for enjoying the other clever clues. LAA totally unknown, making that section difficult. I was thinking airports, too.<br /><br />Did anyone else think PROCTOR for test giver? ICONOCLAST before BLASPHEMER? I am a big ELO fan, but I never heard of "Shine a Little Love". Learning moment about George C Scott and the Oscar.<br /><br />Thanks desper-otto and Husker Gary for the reminders of two other DEFORESTs I thought of. Lee DEFOREST was actually tried for mail fraud. It was considered absurd that a "light bulb" could be used to amplify electronic signals. DEFOREST Kelly indeed was the sometimes reluctant doctor on Star Trek.<br /><br />But Kellam DEFOREST was another Star Trek member; an important consultant to the original series. He still lives here in Santa Barbara and I was honored to be on a Star Trek panel with him several years back.<br /><br /><b><a href="http://swt.org/crosswordcorner/haworth-bronte/" rel="nofollow">Here are photos of our visit to Haworth, England, where Charlotte Brontë wrote JANE EYRE.</a></b><br /><br />Learning moment about JANE EYRE and her pseudonym Currer Bell.<br /><br />No offense taken, Becky, about a photography tour. I, too, would prefer to learn my technique in advance and not have it interfere with enjoying and appreciating a new place.<br /><br />From Yesterday:<br />Lucina and OwenKL: I was referring to Lindbergh's alleged Nazi sympathies. I had forgotten about his documented affairs. Thanks for the information!Picardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17401317669146538447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-705526949892520032018-05-05T16:15:40.787-05:002018-05-05T16:15:40.787-05:00SO LISTIN DUDE, with Erik's byline, I knew we...SO LISTIN DUDE, with Erik's byline, I knew we were in for updated vernacular; good stuff.<br /><br />Hi All!<br />Sam & Erik got me but good in the South. I couldn't get past ANKLE TAT, ESTAd, NOD, TBA, NBC, SERT (e was lucky WAG) and Chicory----(D'Oh! - could I get a beignet?) instead of CAFE AU LAIT. Double-D'Oh! -- Scott Lang was not an actor playing ANTony opposite Cleopatra. That was pretty much all the ink I had south of Mason-Dixon. Maybe NEXT MONTH, I'll win.<br /><br />Thanks guys for the puzzle and thanks HG for finishing my South. The lagniappe in your post-puzzle party kickoff was excellent.<br />Klista & C.C., thank you both for sharing pictures/memories of Scott... Very sweet; one can see the Marine in that little boy.<br /><br />IM and WikWak - <30min? I listened to all of 'Wait, Wait' and 1/2 of 'Ask Me Another' (=90+min) before crying Uncle. Art Chung was not the co-producer Sam & Erik were going for @5d - BTW, today was Art's last on the NPR show.<br /><br />I ROBOT - nailed it! D-O - Pick Me! Pick Me! As the book/movie goes, the Laws aren't quite enough to keep the multi-vac from figuring out it would be best for Humans to be mentally-enslaved and controlled by a benevolent over-lord machine [after the free-thinkers are all off'd]. "Don't be Evil" would be a good 4th rule but Google is slowly ruining that.<br /><br />Of what I did finish that ENDed wrong: I could see Kaine in mind's EYES but I called him TOM. 2d was meaningless so the Senator was never (wait for it...) Right.<br /><br /><b>Fav</b>: Would be <b><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI" rel="nofollow"> BLASPHEMER</a></b> [Life of Brian @0:53] if I got it. Of what I got, <b>Fav</b> is KEROSENE [<b><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-WNoXQ1VM" rel="nofollow">hat - anyone recall the album/song by Cracker?</a></b>] OR the potty humor @13d [I was so going with mobile home or RV for a "place" that go'ed].<br /><br />{A,A,B} {cute}<br /><br />Hey LaLa! Good to see you... Don't be such a stranger girl!<br /><br />Silent Cat@3:06 - True or no, ROTFL.<br /><br />Sonia - yes, inquiring minds what to know who in H-Town? I certainly wasn't one of the two :-)<br /><br />C,Eh! - Your Raptors are going to have to step-it up to meet our Rockets. "I TRIED" is not a good excuse for the #1 in the East...<br /><br />Cheers, -TAnonymous Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459563526290288425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-11826483174947153982018-05-05T15:59:19.241-05:002018-05-05T15:59:19.241-05:00Lucina, Roy, and Jayce,
I'm with you. My CO...<b>Lucina, Roy</b>, and <b>Jayce</b>,<br /><br /> I'm with you. My COD was 13D, "Going places?" A model of clean bathroom humor.Ol' Man Keith https://www.blogger.com/profile/02073553138045178596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-830601559998556692018-05-05T15:55:26.326-05:002018-05-05T15:55:26.326-05:00CanadianEh!, I will join you in your "pay gra...<b>CanadianEh!</b>, I will join you in your "pay grade" lament. I believe some of the difficulty in today's pzl can be attributed to athletic trivia - along with pop music & TV allusions - neither of which are at the fore in my memory bank.<br />But then, it could be that we single out these areas because they just happened to fall in sectors where we needed a boost. <br /><br />I do find that on other days when I haply may know an athletic answer, I'll pat myself on the back - & give the Ol' Walnut a silent "Good Boy" cheer.<br /><br />DARTH Sidious raises another issue for me. Kids today take delight in following the fictional histories and intricate hierarchies & rivalries of such worlds as the "Galactic Empire," "Game of Thrones," etc. How can they possibly make room for the details of <i>real</i> history? <br />Do they know who did what to whom to start WWI? <br />Why did Britain team with the Turks in the Crimean War?<br />Grump grump grump<br /><br />Oh, well, if today's novelists and screenwriters are doing their jobs (as did Will Shaxper before them) they may be distilling essential lessons from real history into their fake versions, enough to help rising generations draw the lessons necessary to guide our species to survive future threats of extinction.<br />Fingers crossed, eh?Ol' Man Keith https://www.blogger.com/profile/02073553138045178596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-66622331862148310892018-05-05T15:45:04.556-05:002018-05-05T15:45:04.556-05:00While I admire and appreciate the tremendous skill...While I admire and appreciate the tremendous skill, imagination, craftsmanship, and thought that Erik and Samuel put into this puzzle, I found the struggle to solve it produced a relatively weak feeling of satisfaction or enjoyment in the end. There was so much I had to look up, and then my reactions were mostly "Oh" rather than "Hey that's cool." The exceptions include the excellent clues for TOILETS, HOST, and KILN.<br /><br />This puzzle contains many examples of what I categorize as "fact answers" and "general answers." Fact answers are just that: a fact or item of knowledge that you either know or don't know, such as GERI Jewell and MUNCIE. I find that about 60% of the time with answers like these I need to look them up even though I may already have some letters filled from perps. In this case, having -ERI did not help me get GERI; it could just as well have been TERI or KERI or even MERI. In the case of MUNCIE, after a few perps I wagged it, but only because I had heard of Muncie, Indiana, regardless of knowing nothing of Ball State University. I.e. the clue was, to me, totally meaningless and irrelevant; I got the answer without the clue. In sum, I find trying to solve "fact" answers mostly unsatisfying. On the other hand, what I have called "general" answers can usually be worked out, and give pleasure, especially when imaginatively clued, without the need to have any specialized knowledge.<br /><br />Best wishes to you all.Jaycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906163232315177399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-919657380203523952018-05-05T15:27:39.082-05:002018-05-05T15:27:39.082-05:00Great photos of Argyle! Thanks, C.C., for posting...Great photos of <b>Argyle</b>! Thanks, <b>C.C.</b>, for posting them.<br /><br />Today's pzl from Mssrs.<b>Donaldson</b> & <b>Asgard</b> is eminently worthy of its Saturday position. I finished, but only with considerable help. The sole gimme on my first scan was the FIB at 16A (UNTO). <br />I'll hazard a guess that the "St. Crispin's Day" call-to-arms is the second most popular speech in the Shakespearean canon - right after "To be or not to be" and just ahead of "Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow" <br /><br />And No, <b>CanadianEh!</b> and <b>OwenKL</b>, I didn't see UNDERSTUDY until I was well into my 5th or 6th scan. (But Yes, I slapped my forehead in recognition at the PDM!)<br /><br /><b>Disappointment?</b> <br />I was so happy to start 35D with OX - because I love it whenever an "X" shows up (just as in BRONX ZOO at 31A) - that I felt a great sadness when I had to change OX to OAK to complete OAK TREES. <br />I realize both are "Symbols of strength," but I had already felt vindicated by LAX (as did <b>desper-otto</b> before me), enough so that I experienced a <i>brève tristesse</i> at my loss. (Besides, everybody down here knows that LAA ought to be AAA - to honor Anaheim, the true home of the Angels.)<br /><br />____________<br /><b>Diagonal Report:</b> Wouldn't you know it? Only yesterday I was griping that we <i>almost</i> had another diagonal-free puzzle. But it turned out to be a false alarm. So what do I find today?! <br /><i>Bingo!</i><br />You *#@! guessed it -<br />"Yes, we have no diag'nals. We have no diag'nals today!"Ol' Man Keith https://www.blogger.com/profile/02073553138045178596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-46039007864482993502018-05-05T15:20:13.943-05:002018-05-05T15:20:13.943-05:00C.C. I just looked at your sweet video of Argyle, ...C.C. I just looked at your sweet video of Argyle, and loved seeing him in an actual Santa suit with those little children. Thank you for posting it.<br /><br />Wilbur, many thanks for asking--but ironically my sleep has been great for the last month or so, even the last two nights after the surgery. That's a blessing, isn't it?Mistyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17570695193695039956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-30557196396080306352018-05-05T15:15:02.579-05:002018-05-05T15:15:02.579-05:00The only reason I remember SERT is that it doesn&#...The only reason I remember SERT is that it doesn't sound Spanish and is actually Catalan. His specialty is painting murals and though I've never been inside the GE building in NY one of his murals is supposedly there.Lucinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16278649651081244724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-28204308609828788322018-05-05T15:06:17.651-05:002018-05-05T15:06:17.651-05:00It might be an urban legend, but the story is told...It might be an urban legend, but the story is told that a reporter approached Calvin Cooledge and said: "I have a bet with an associate that I can get you to say at least 3 words." Cal just smiled at him and said: "You lose."Silent Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-81602246405248840782018-05-05T14:44:08.614-05:002018-05-05T14:44:08.614-05:00Well this was above my pay grade. Thanks for the ...Well this was above my pay grade. Thanks for the fun Samuel and Erik, and Husker Gary. <br />Thanks for the photos C.C.<br />Many learning moments today as I had to LIU. I'll blame my Canadian disadvantage. ROTFL,<br />At least I TRIED and I did not become a BLASPHEMER.<br /><br />We had some Spanish for Cinco de Mayo, but also DARTH from yesterday's May the Force.<br />(Anon T, one son has a March "Forth" birthday and I LOL at your anniversary reference.)<br />Owen KL, I too noted the prescience of our blog members, OMK and Becky with. UNDERSTUDY. And Lucina, I also remembered the Jeopardy clue about the Bronte sisters.<br /><br />Hand up for Into before UNTO. (Sweet) Pea would have fit just as well as OYL.<br />My fisher was an egret before an EELER. "Hardly harmonious" made me think of music and I was trying to use Atonal.<br /><br />My knowledge was lacking in many areas -- art (SERT), American zoos (BRONX ZOO), American stations (NPR), American sports (LAA and PAT), American senators (TIM), American Universities and cities (MUNCIE). I said previously that I needed to memorize the American presidents and their numbers, but obviously I also need to memorize the acts that they passed (LBJ), and their personalities (TERSENESS). (After I looked up "Silent Cal", I tried to get Silence into 51 A.). But once I got a toehold thanks to Mr. Google, perps helped the completion.<br /><br />JOJOBA today, not our usual Aloe or Shea.<br /><br />Best wishes to all.CanadianEh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/05688358229402732332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5995532066584316410.post-4696379997398879552018-05-05T14:20:03.117-05:002018-05-05T14:20:03.117-05:00I was in New Zealand to accompany my husband on a ...I was in New Zealand to accompany my husband on a photographic workshop/seminar/tour. Eighteen people on the trip, traveled a lot, snowed on us at Mt. Cook, couldn't see Mt. Cook. Everyone was very pleasant but all they talked about was lenses and filters and f stops. Jamie just mentioned there were two cancellations for an October trip to Ireland and did I want to go. I said no. I have been to Ireland twice and see no reason to go with a bunch of photographers. No offense, Picard.Beckynoreply@blogger.com