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Jul 17, 2008

Thursday July 17, 2008 Alan P. Olschwang

Theme: Listen Carefully

17A: Start of Kin Hubbard quip: LOOK OUT FOR

27A: Part 2 of quip: THE FELLOW WHO

48A: Part 3 of quip: LETS YOU DO ALL

64A: End of quip: THE TALKING

Hmm, wise saying, isn't it? But structurally speaking, the last Kin Hubbard "Optimism" puzzle is much superior than this one.

This grid feels like it was hastily done. I am a bit annoyed by the affixes, esp the S'es and the 2 RE prefixes: RESTART (38D: Begins a new) and REARM (3A: Get a new weaponry).

I truly don't understand why we must have a QUIP/QUOTE every Thursday. Mr. Williams, why are you so SILENT? Why can't you LISTEN (SILENT, anagrammed) to our views and change your style a bit? Why can't we have some rebus puzzles?

Across:

1A: Hacienda room: SALA. Hacienda house will be CASA (same in Italian).

15A: Dizzying pictures: OP ART. Too mathematically-tilted for my taste.

16A: Trade show: EXPO. Or Montreal's MLB team ('til 2004). They've never won a World Series, have they?

20A: Skater Slutskaya: IRINA. Wikipedia says her name is typically pronounced as "e-Ree-nah Sloots-kah-yah." I wonder if there are some subtle differences in meaning between the names IRINA and IRENA in Russian language.

21A: NHL star Phil, to fans: ESPO. Unknown to me. Wiki says he is in Hockey HOF. Wow, 2 Stanley Cups with the Bruins?

22A: Cannes conception: IDEE. I like this alliterative clue. Much better than "IDEE fixe". FYI, "chou", the endearingly sweet French cabbage, means "ugly" (laid/laide) in Chinese, though pronounced differently.

25A: Cosmo competitor: ELLE. I like Vogue.

35A: __ cit: LOC. And another Latin: 12D: ___ dixit: IPSE

36A: Blow a gasket: SEE RED. I've never heard of "Blow a gasket" before. I got ED quickly and was so confused about the tense of the answer. I was really picturing someone doing a gasket- blowing job in my mind.

52A: Infield protector: TARP

53A: Glacier component: BLUE ICE. New to me. It looks so pretty.

57A: Blithering: GAGA. I would not have got GAGA without the perps. "Blithering" is a new word to me.

63A: Ananias, e.g.: LIAR. I caught the LIAR this time.

66A: College credit: UNIT. I don't know. I've never attended any school here. Is credit called UNIT?

70A: Bikini blast: A TEST

71A: __ of Worms: DIET. Complete foreign to me. Thought of "Cans" of worms for a fleeting moment. Did not know that "DIET" also means "a general assembly". Beautiful city - Worms.

Down:

1D: Concrete: SOLID

3D: Pope after Sergius II: LEO IV. Very tricky fill.

4D: Start of JFK line: ASK NOT. From his 1961 Inaugural Address. It's not his nor Ted Sorensen's original lines. JFK just paraphrased Khalil Gibran's 1925 essay "The New Frontier": "... Are you a politician asking what your country can do for you or a zealous one asking what you can do for your country? If you are the first, then you are a parasite; if the second, then you are an oasis in a desert...". My favorite JFK book is probably Pierre Salinger's "With Kennedy". What is yours?

8D: Row, row, row your boat: PROPEL. Sounds so hard!

9D: Leisurely walks: STROLLS. I want to take STROLLS here, the Royal Birkdale Golf Course, and follow Adam Scott this morning.

10D: Film critic: REVIEWER

26D: Leopold's cohort: LOEB. No, no, not familiar with LOEB at all. Did you nail him?

30D: VIP in a will: HEIR. And 41D: Will proceedings: PROBATES

39D: Author Angelou: MAYA. Here is her wonderful "On the Pulse of Morning" at Clinton's inaugural in 1993: "A rock, a river, a tree....COME, you may stand upon my back...and say simply, very simply, with hope, Good morning."

44D: Actress Swit: LORETTA. Unknown to me. Pure guess.

51D: Oozed out: LEAKED

54D: Formal response to "Who's there?": IT IS I

55D: Swing a thurible: CENSE. Swing? That forcefully?

56D: Destructive plant fungus: ERGOT

58D: Hokkaido native: AINU. Very accurate clue. AINU do live in the very northern part of Japan.

65D: Nova Scotia hrs.: AST (Atlantic Standard Time)

C.C.

108 comments:

  1. Good morning, C.C. and gang - not exactly a hammer this morning -- a bit over 4 minutes -- and a less-than humorous quote. I just thought it was a very mundane puzzle.

    C.C. Phil Esposito was a great hockey player for the Bruins. And when you were picturing someone 'doing a gasket-blowing job', just what were you seeing??

    Carol, to answer your question from yesterday, no, my wife knows where the pistol is.

    Supposed to be sunny here in south Florida today - hope it's a great one where you are.

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  2. Dennis,
    Was LOEB a gimme to you? As for the gasket-blowing job, you know my imagination runs wild sometimes.

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  3. C.C., yes, Loeb was a gimme; I've seen that pair in crosswords for a while now.
    I think you need to share your imagination with us.

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  4. Good morning everyone.
    I had a bit of a hard time with this one today. I did not "nail" Loeb. Never heard of "cense" (55D).
    Who is Adam Scott CC?
    The blue ice was beautiful.
    Loretta Swit was from the sitcom Mash which was a great show back in the day.
    It is going to be 90 here today. I'm glad I'll be working all day.
    I will be gone until Monday, so I hope you all have a good weekend.

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  5. well, i actually did like this Olschwang...c.c. you're right words do funny things in other languages--my name means empty in svenska--we'll just have to transforms chou to choufleur! (mon petit choufleur is a common expression used by doting mothers)
    didn't get the japanese reference...diet is funny--apparently the old assembly meetings lasted for days (latin dia.

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  6. Had no problem with most of the puzzle, even the quote... but did not like some of the clues in the SW... GAGA, AINU,etc. The sun is out in FL... quickly... play golf before it rains again.
    Katherine, Adam Scott is the Aussie who would like to win The Open this weekend at Royal Birkdale

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  7. Morning, folks!

    What can I say? Boring quip and a [mostly] easy puzzle. I did know who Leopold and LOEB were, and I knew that CENSE is a verb. BEing from Boston, I also knew all about Phil ESPOsito.

    I'd never seen the abbreviation LOC. Cit. before (I was expecting Opp. Cit.), and the expresion "DIET of Worms" (71A) was completely unknown to me as well (I originally entered A CAN).

    Anybody else bothered by 46A? "Telephone trio" seems awfully awkward (not to mention inaccurate) cluing for PRS. I'm assuming the clue refers to the fact that all three letters appear on the same telephone button, but they're not contiguous and are actually part of the PQRS quartet. I don't think you can refer to 3/4 of a quartet as a "trio" any more than you can call 2 out of three triplets "twins."

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  8. Thomas,
    I suggest we mothball "chou", "chouchou", et "chou-fleur" at this blog. Did you mean "Thomas" is "empty" in Swedish? Or your surname is?

    Katherine,
    Adam Scott is hot. Have a wonderful weekend.

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  9. Thanks Superfrey, I'm not up on my sports people!

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  10. Good morning, all!
    C.C. is getting Lois off to a good start with her comment on 36A. Like Dennis, I am trying to visualize what she was seeing. And then for 8D she comments that it's "so hard."
    You get as unit of credit for courses taken in college.
    Loeb was a gimme because of the pairing in Xword puzzles before.

    I have a better suggestion for thomas rather than changing the phrasing to something else. Do what has been asked and suggested and "please stop." Call her C.C. like the rest of us do. Enough said!!!!!!!!!

    Today is Yellow Pig Day -it is a mathematician's holiday celebrating yellow pigs (is there such a thing!?!), and the number 17. It is celebrated annually since the early 1960's, primarily on college campuses, and primarily by mathematicians. On campus, Yellow Pig Cake and Yellow Pig Carols are tradition!
    It's also Wrong Way Corrigan Day. Douglas “Wrong Way” Corrigan was an American aviator who, in 1938, after a transcontinental flight from Long Beach, California, to New York, he flew from Floyd Bennett Field in Brooklyn, New York, to Ireland, even though he was supposed to be returning to Long Beach. He claimed that his unauthorized flight was due to a navigational error, caused by heavy cloud cover that obscured landmarks and low-light conditions, causing him to misread his compass

    Have a good one.

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  11. Good morning Cc and others. This one taxed my mind a bit. Finally got all except the SW corner and needed help there. Loeb was a gimme because of all the news coverage of the "perfect crime" in the killing of Bobby Franks. They were represented in their trial by Clarence Darrow. Darrow's summation was a criticism of capital punishment.

    Nice day here so I am off to play some golf. Have a great day.

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  12. Good morning, C.C. and all.

    C.C., LOEB was a gimme. I'd forgotten about the DIET of Worms. I remember that the boys in class particularly liked the day that was mentioned.

    I don't think of my college credits as UNITS, but I suppose it's a (barely) acceptable clue. It took me a while to come up with GAGA and then the SW corner fell into place. I'll have to Google ANANAIS...a word I don't know.

    It seems to me, and I hope that someone will either correct me or add to the information, that it's thought that ERGOT infected the rye supplies used to make bread in Salem resulting in the craziness of the witch hunts. That's one theory, at any rate.

    It looks to be a sunny, HOT, day in the Chicago area. Smooth sailing, all!

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  13. kittyb, the ergot theory is just one of many regarding the Salem witch hunts, but certainly a plausible one. Obviously, we'll never know for sure.

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  14. Dennis - I couldn't resist because of something you said a few days ago. I changed my picture. Can you guess what it is?

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  15. drdad, you've put a picture of Uranus on here!! What's next - Lois displaying 'the girls'??

    And yes, I'm aware that Uranus is filled with gas...

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  16. Easy was not!!! Lots of Googling and X/W dictionary visits.

    Loretta Swit was the US Army Major, a nurse in "M.A.S.H." Korean War comedy series. She was called "Hot Lips". It was a very funny show.

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  17. Ergot is the source of ergoline. Ergoline is an ergot alkaloid compound. One of the other ergoline alkaloids is called lysergic acid-ß-propanolamide. In 1938, Albert Hofman at Sandoz converted this compound to LySergic acid Diethylamide (LSD). Thus, it has been hypothesized that some, but not all, of the people in the witch hunts were suffering from LSD-like hallucinations. That may have triggered the onset of the hunts but other participants were probably reacting on the basis of mass hysteria once the hunts began.

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  18. Good morning CC etal,
    Not too bad today - got the quip a little more quickly than usual. Only needed to google Esposito (had a "duh" moment when his name popped up).
    CC: re "cense/swing" question - if you've ever attend or see on TV a Papal Mass, especially for holidays like Christmas or Easter, you'll notice they use a ton of incense and the guy who swings the thurible (the incense holder) really does swing it - from parallel to the ground in front of him to parallel to the ground behind him at the full length of the chain the thurible is attached to. It's quite impressive to watch and really stinks the joint up good.
    Hope everyone has a great day!

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  19. Barry,
    Do you know why the letter Q is not displayed on the phone button?

    Dennis,
    Come, and share with us what you were thinking of what I was picturing.

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  20. Chris,
    Thank you.

    Dr.Dad,
    To me, your new picture is just a big ball. I like the color.

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  21. "Q" is part of my phone buttons "PQRS". Just checked my phones and it's there... I believe it used NOT to be displayed. Maybe the newer phones do. Just guessing...

    Still awaiting for C.C.'s wild imagination explained... We ALL want to hear it!!!

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  22. Dr.Dad et al,
    I was born in the year of Pig in Chinese calendar (1971). I am just curious to know who was born in the year of Snake (1929, 1941, 1953, 1965, 1977).

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  23. C.C., flyingears is right - the letter 'q' is on newer phones and all cell phones; never used to be there. Obviously it's needed now for texting.
    And discretion being the better part of valor, I'll pass on what I was picturing.
    But why did you put that comma in your question??

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  24. Barry,
    Do you know why the letter Q is not displayed on the phone button?


    It is on the phone I've got in front of me as I'm typing this.

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  25. Dennis & Flyingears & Barry,
    I just checked my cell phone. Q is there. I've never text-messaged before. I am very technology-challenged.

    Dennis,
    The comma? Obviously my grammar is bad...

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  26. C.C., I think not; your grammar's fine.
    And as flyingears and I said, older phones did not have the 'q' - maybe that's all Olshwang has.

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  27. Matter of fact, the phone I've got in front of me as I'm typing this doesn't have a 'q'; it's the hotel phone, and somewhat old.

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  28. Kittyb,
    Ananias is a Biblical character who was struck dead after lying about an offering of money.

    Sandra

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  29. Dennis,
    That's interesting. If my grammar is fine, why did you ask about the comma then?

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  30. Whew! Unaided but barely and had to make a couple of educated guesses. The problem areas were the middle intersection of ECARD and LOC where I got the C by trying all 26 letters to 'C' which made CENSE. The other troublesome area was the SE corner with BLUE ICE, CENSE, ERGOT, and DIET all unfamiliar to me and had to be worked out using logic. For me, a fun puzzle!

    And I'm off to Healdsburg today for some fun in wine country. So see you all next Monday.

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  31. If my grammar is fine, why did you ask about the comma then?

    Errr... You're grammar was fine if, in fact, you were telling Dennis to do two separate things (i.e., first come and then share). Dennis would most likely enjoy doing this. And Lois would mostly likely enjoy helping. However, the idiomatic expression, "come and..." is typically rendered without a comma after the first word since the two verbs are considered part of the same action.

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  32. Greetings and Salutations,

    Thanks to 69A, now I know where they got the name, Tun Tavern.

    Semper Fidelis

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  33. Wow, C.C.! I was born in the Year of the Pig also if I read the calendar right - MCMLIX.

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  34. Hi, cc and dfs,

    No, I’m not up early; I’m actually doing this on Wednesday night, since I’ll be tied up most of the day Thursday. A small perk of living on the west coast, but I’ll have to wait for the cc to make her blog post.

    Easier for me than yesterday, for some reason. I liked the Kin Hubbard quote, and I liked seeing Pepe LePew in the same puzzle. I’ve been reading a novel about the original comic books in the 30’s and 40’s, and had comics on my mind.

    My school used credits or hours, not units. Got Loeb from the crosses.

    Unknown words – Aral, Ainu, loc cit., cense, ergot. Would not have associated gaga with blithering, Never heard of a diet of worms, but I should have known it, having studied a little about Martin Luther.

    Have a great day everyone – Oregon is starting out warm and sunny.

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  35. well c.c. i've never accused you of being ignorant in francais (unlike apparently some of the others here)but we all supposedly love words here, thought I, god knows I get a super kick out of Lois' wordplay. In fact, you're all brilliant. I laugh when I realize Tom is the same for the swedish "tom" (empty as in bottle!)... and i learned something about ananias--hadnt a clew...me no pig just a black sheep!

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  36. Golf fans amongst us,
    I wanted to make sure you knew 1st round of British Open is on TNT as we speak - windy, cold & rainy there (Phil finished at +9, there are several +11 & +12, the leader is only -1). It always makes me feel good to think I can shoot in the 80's, too. Well, not in the rain & wind, but still...

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  37. Thanks, Sandra! I thought I was conversant with the Bible, but it seems I need to sign on for a refresher course. *S* I appreciate the information.

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  38. 69A Never heard of tun before... had to wikipedia it to even know what it was. I guess I'm not old enough.

    57A The only time I've ever heard the word was in the phrase "blithering idiot"... so gaga fits but I didn't get it until the fills.

    26D I mispelled LOEB to LOHB which messed me up with 36A which I still don't get

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  39. Thomas,
    Whoa! You've come awfully close to the edge of the cliff with your thoughtless "others here" comment. I hope this is the end of our chou* discussion. It has certainly not been a pleasurable, and in fact, rather "laid" éxchanges among the few of us. So, if "Tom" is "empty", what is "half-empty" in Swedish?

    Chris,
    What's your pick for the British Open?

    Carl,
    Thank you for the "Blithering idiot", now I will remember this phrase forever. "Blow a gasket" means "get very angry", hence SEE RED.

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  40. Dr. Dad,
    Yes, 1959 was a year of the Pig. We are all brave souls. We are very compatible with people born in the year of Rabbits (1939,1951,1963, etc) and year of Sheep (1943, 1955, 1967, etc).

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  41. CC,
    Adam Scott's looking good, but I'm hoping that Rocco gets a chance to redeem for the US Open.
    I'm 1961 - what's my Chinese year & which years are compatible for me?

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  42. Barry,
    Thank you for the explanation. You are a monkey, aren't you?

    Dennis et al,
    What's your zodiac in Chinese calendar?

    Chris,
    You are an OX. You get along well with people who are born in the years of Rabbits, Rats & Rooster. See here for more information.

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  43. Ohhhh... See Red. I wondered what seered meant. I was overthinking the obvious.

    Thank you

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  44. I liked the quip, but had to Google a lot to finish this puzzle - many obscure items.

    Leopold and Loeb were famous criminals who killed a young man just to see if they could commit the "perfect crime." Hitchcock's movie, Rope, is based loosely on their story, as well as the more recent film, Swoon.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_and_Loeb

    I never heard the term thurible, but even though I'm Jewish I know the item. Hilarious scene in a favorite movie of mine - Keeping the Faith - Ed Norton as a new priest has much trouble with the thurible. You can watch here:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Md0aDvfXuIQ

    Steamy day in central NY - I am very grateful to work inside in the air conditioning.

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  45. I just checked - "Diet of Worms" was a famous meeting in 1521 that concerned Martin Luther and the Protestant reformation:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_of_Worms

    Also, thanks to Sandra for explanation of Ananias - I didn't quite get the clue-answer connection even after Googling.

    And I agree - "PRS" as a telephone trio is quite outdated, and Barry is right, it's not even accurate.

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  46. To blow a gasket is to lose one's temper; to see red is to be so angry that one's vision appears red – or lose one's temper.
    Am back in soggy Naples after a wonderful week in Manhattan. (The sun is finally out here in Naples. We've complained about a drought, and now we have flooding.)

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  47. oh-oh, if Lois finds out I was born 1945....

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  48. CC, Chris is only an Ox if he wasn't born in January or early February, right?

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  49. Cc I am happy to learn that we are compatible since I am in the year of the rabbits. Never knew this before, thanks.

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  50. c.c. sorry i missed whatever happened while i was away .. you are lurking near the edge of the dark side. well done DF's, i am most impressed.

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  51. Danielle,
    The way I read it, yes - but I'm an Ox (June). About halfway down the site CC forwarded are links to descriptions of each of the animals which are amazingly accurate not only for me but also for others I know. Very interesting, thanks CC.

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  52. I am one of the others here and as far as I'm concerned, at the edge of the cliff is too kind. All the way over and heading for the bottom of the gorge for a big splat is more like it. I'm much too kind to say anything further.

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  53. It may not be perfect but here is my last comment in French: Il a tombé du bord de la falaise et est dirigé pour le fond de la gorge.

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  54. Danielle @ 12:16pm,
    Yes! Chinese calendar is different.

    Dick,
    You, Dr.Dad and I, we three will make a lovely couple, don't you think so?

    Melissa,
    So much happened while you were away...

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  55. Barry,
    Thank you for the explanation. You are a monkey, aren't you?


    Actually, I'm a horse. And a horse is a horse (of course, of course).

    My son, however, is a monkey. Well, sort of. He was born in January, so technically it was still the Year of the Monkey when he was born and not yet the Year of the Chicken. And he really likes to be called a monkey (Curious George is his favorite TV show and role model). I just worry what will happen when he sees on of those zodiac place mats at a Chinese restaurant and it informs him that he is "really" a chicken. I fear he will be heartbroken...

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  56. kittyb, Ananias was also mentioned several times in the book of Acts. I just don't know if he was the same Ananias that died because of his lying... My wife says he was not the same person... So, there were two Ananias(es?). And, MY WIFE IS NEVER WRONG (so she says...)

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  57. Flyingears,
    Her correct title is "She Who Must Be Obeyed" - I'm certain she'll agree.

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  58. Hi cc. and everyone. Well, we are starting out in fine form today!!
    Why does there seem to be an "eel" in nearly every other puzzle?? (24D)
    71A really stumped me, I didn't know the word "diet"..where is Worms?

    C.C. I think you have set us off with the 36A, I can think of better things to blow than a gasket!
    Can I take Adam Scott home?
    I knew "Loeb" from the famous trial in the '20's but it was also a great movie in the 50's.
    Good comeback at 6:53 and I agree with drdad at 12:27!!! Hit the dump button!

    Dennis, Guess you will have to be careful about where you put YOUR gun, huh?? You might get more that a gasket blown off!

    drdad, wonderful picture of your ?
    I rather like c.c.'s view of it, where is your other one??

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  59. Carol - the other one might have been "eclipsed."

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  60. Tommy, just who are the "others here" you're referring to?

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  61. Dennis,
    Let it go, I'm sure he got it.

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  62. Good Lord, C.C., I'm a freaking sheep!! Do ewe believe it?

    Can I at least be a ram?? Just something about that word...

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  63. Carol, I stopped wearing gaskets years ago. Snip, snip.

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  64. Dennis,
    I'm sure CC appreciates you sticking up for her.

    Tommy,
    I presume you did, in fact, get it.

    Can we all just get along?

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  65. Rodney!! I thought you were in jail...

    We all get along just fine - as long as people respect each other's wishes.

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  66. Dennis @ 1:25pm,
    What were you wearing??? A sheep is a great companion for a pig. I was so worried that you might be a snake. I am allergic to it.

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  67. d'accord, mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...perhaps i can fault my gaucheries to being a sheep, but hopefully not a sheepish sheep...Danielle like you I'd heard of thurible too..despite my bar mitzvah...sorry for the extreme heat there the weather is brusque to say the least here in Skandinavia!

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  68. 13:09 today. I'm getting worse, and going through a rough patch, I guess.

    I'm a Yin Water Sheep. Thanks for the link to Chinese astrology c.c.! We have a cat named "Yin" (she had a brother named "Yang", but he got lost to the coyotes years ago). After 15 years. she still won't come sit on my lap.

    LOEB and DIET were gimmes for me, but then I'm old. (Though Lisa Loeb is one of my favorite singers--doubt she's related to the Leopold and LOEB guy, but who knows?)

    Unknown words today:
    Ananais (in the clue, though I got the answer through crosses)
    LEO IV (I don't know much about Popes, Holy Roman Emperors, and a whole buncha other stuff like that)
    CENSE (and "thurible" for that matter)

    Back to watching the British Open on TV...

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  69. c.c. Did I miss the Chinese astrology link? I can't seem to find it. My birth month is Nov. and in our astrology, I am a scorpion, and not supposed to get along with any other sign (except maybe another scorpion)but I don't think that is true in my case...I especially like snakes (ie puff adders :))

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  70. embien, I just realized you are in Oregon, we are nearly neighbors! I am in Portland. Isn't the weather great? Guess the rest of the country is not so fortunate, according to our fellow d.f.'s

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  71. Dennis, I spent a year in Cherry Point (1968). It was my first duty station. From there I went to Pensacola, FL for 6 months and so on.

    chris in la, you are right. My wife THINKS I MUST obey... I also hope Rocco wins the Open. He feels quite positive. Adam Scott was on-2 and ended the day at level par...

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  72. Just testing - I created an "identity" profile for my "icon" here. Hope these terms are correct :)

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  73. Thank you to all who added info on ERGOT.

    I'm a RAT! (Yang Earth). Hmpf.

    Flyingears, I believe your wife. *G* I'll have to do some research on Ananais, I see.

    Chrisinla....I see YOUR wife is teaching you the mantra! Way to go, girl!

    Crocket, thanks for taking my grins over your typo yesterday, and the rest of my comment, as intended. I wasn't prying, just trying to avoid giving offense.

    c.c., I love your blog, and the group who have come to share your interests. You have some mighty nice friends.

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  74. I tried to create an identity but it didn't work somehow, I filled out everything, previewed it but when I click on the icon by my name, nothing shows - help!

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  75. Carol maybe you do not exist LOL!!

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  76. Now I am embarrassed! I was clicking on the red and white blog symbol, and not on the name !!! Aghhh
    Anyway, all is well.

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  77. Dick, some people probably wish that were so..esp my hubby at times :)

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  78. Carol,
    I see you when I click on your link.

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  79. Carol I do not see you when I click on your link. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

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  80. Dick, try clicking on my name

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  81. @carol: c.c. posted the link at 11:44, but I'll repeat it here for you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_zodiac

    Also, your profile looks fine to me.

    Also, we are nearly neighbors. I live about 40 miles west of Portland (in the Coast Range). There's at least one other Oregonian barb b who blogs here, I think she lives in Veneta (or somewhere near Eugene, at any rate).

    "She who must be obeyed" comes from the old British TV series, Rumpole of the Bailey. The programs were repeated on PBS for years (originally broadcast from 1978-1992). Rumpole's wife, Hilda, was "she who must be obeyed". Leo McKern, who played Horace Rumpole, died in 2002 at age 82.

    You can get the complete series in a giant DVD set (14 DVDs!), and if you're a fan of British humor, it is highly recommended (at least by me).

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  82. embien, thanks so much for the link, I totally missed c.c.'s at 11:44, but see it now :)

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  83. If anyone is interested:

    With OFF THE Wall (My group) and also sitting in with THE NEARLY BROTHERS:
    http://www.mvbga.com/2008.html

    And this one next week is just for fun; (a little vacation for my wife) I've got to play a wedding Sat.
    http://www.norwichfamilybluegrass.com/

    Lois, As you can see the second fest has a group from Virginia "James King". He lives not too far from Amelia!
    That's why we're going next week.
    Haven't seen him in a year.
    Need to catch up!!

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  84. And, C.C., If i read it right I'm a "monkey"! SEP '45

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  85. Melissa,
    So much happened while you were away...


    yes i certainly got that impression. for me too. perhaps we should compare notes.

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  86. cc: thanks so much for posting the Chinese zodiac link (you too embien), I find that I am the Year of the Horse..also Yang Water. Very interesting!!

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  87. Carol, Embien & Barb B

    You can add one other Oregonian (if a visitor counts since I haven't yet taken the time to create an identity). I'll have to do that soon. But, I'm about 20 miles southeast of Oregon City.

    Carl

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  88. Hi Caro, welcome to our crazy, fun group!!

    Crockett, you are from Portland too, aren't you??

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  89. Carl, sorry for the miss-spell on your name!!

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  90. Carol

    No prob! Happens all the time.

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  91. If i read it right I'm a "monkey"! SEP '45

    Bill, if you were born in September of 1945 I believe you are actually a chicken. Like my wife (who was born in March of 1969). It's on a 12-year cycle, and there's 24 years between 1945 and 1969.

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  92. Bill...Nice PR on the festival site. I thought you played banjo, but it says you play bass. Sounds like loads of fun. Have a great weekend.

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  93. Hi Everyone!
    C.C. Congratulations for breaking the "100 comments" mark!!!!!! Is this the first time?

    Thank you to everyone for making this such a great place to unwind.You just don't know how much it means to me to visit here every nite.
    Dennis, DrDad, Barry, I always learn something from your entries

    Hummmmmm, I guess I could say that about Lois and Carol too ! ROFL !

    I blew the leopold/loeb connection and never should have as I have spent a lot of time researching that paticular crime. I have an excuse as I was gaga after work today from the stress. Honest! lol
    I hope I am the first to congratulate you c.c. on another milestone. (to my knowledge this was the first time) You have had a lot of help from everybody who checks in so CONGRATS TO ALL OF YOU TOO !
    AS ALWAYS The Whoo !

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  94. Hello All! Yes, I am another Portland guy. Thursdays are sometimes difficult for me to get posted before I'm out the door, and today was no different. Glad to see that everything's settled down. I was surprised to see the 100 comments. That's quite a milestone. See you all in the morning!

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  95. drdad,

    Etre should be used instead of avoir when used with tomber, non?

    Sandra

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  96. Only the second time we've passed 100; congratulations, guys; we're a wordy bunch.

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  97. Hello CC & DF's: Busy day here for sure. Congrat's CC on 103 comments today. What a milestone!

    A gasket-blowing-job? Man, did I miss out on some good fun!

    CC: Adam Scott is beyond HOT! Holy Lava Bomb! He rattles my ovaries! I'd like to have a 'Cannes conception'22A w/him!

    Argyle: I think you are a rooster, correct? I love it! You're the cock of the walk! You know where my chimney is, Santa baby!

    Bill: King James...the name is surely famous around these parts, but I don't know the band. I will look out for them though. I hope you have a great time and I will definately see you at the May Amelia Fest.

    drdad: Love the new picture of the huge blue ball and if the other one is eclipsed, I can only imagine what a morel fellow you are!

    Dennis: I'm sure 'the girls' would love to have their picture taken...again...but it would take a photo from the Hubel telescope to get both of them on this blog.

    See you tomorrow, I hope.

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  98. Lois, baby, you are at the top of my naughty list.

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  99. DFs,
    Dennis is right. This is the second time we broke 100 marks due to your wordiness (OK, to a lesser extent, mine too).

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  100. Argyle: Santa, baby, I know that's where I belong but does that mean you won't come in my chimney?

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  101. Good Gosh, I'd empty my whole bag in your chimney.

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  102. Come on down! I'll take all the presents you have to give, Santa, baby!

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