Theme: And/or - OR is added to common phrases.
23A. Important meeting for Domingo and colleagues? : THE BIG TENOR CONFERENCE. The Big Ten Conference.
33A. Pulpit tirade? : BLAST FROM THE PASTOR. Blast from the past.
50A. Sale of swampland? : MORASS MARKETING. Mass marketing.
63A. Disloyal union member? : LABOR RAT. Lab rat.
69A. "Babe," e.g.? : PIG STORY. Pig sty.
83A. Really conservative Conservatives? : OLD SCHOOL TORIES. Old school tie.
92A. Comment about a recently razed vacation complex? : THE RESORT IS HISTORY. The rest is history.
114A. Maine travel agency's come-on? : MORE BANGOR FOR YOUR BUCK. More bang for your buck.
Some ORs are inserted to the end of the word, some in the middle. Can you think of one with OR attached to the beginning?
Did the theme clues make you laugh? One of the challenges in letter addition/deletion/substitution theme is to come up with entertaining clues.
I still don't know who Verge is. Alias name, perhaps. I feel it's a he.
Across:
1. Missouri range : OZARKS. Scrabbly start.
7. Very friendly with : CLOSE TO
14. Legitimate : LAWFUL
20. Incisor neighbor : CANINE. Tooth.
21. Lost it : HAD A COW. "Don't have a cow, man!"
22. His team has an orange-and-black logo : ORIOLE. Baltimore Orioles.
26. Cabin fever, e.g. : ANGST
27. Salon supply : HAIR GEL
28. "Hmm ..." : I WONDER. And 115D. "Hmm ..." : GEE
29. Glom : COP. Did not know "glom" can mean "steal".
30. Hesitant sounds : UMs
32. A long time : YEARS
43. Like a hawk's perspective : AERIAL
44. __ agreement : ORAL
45. Recipe amount : CUP
46. Carides of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" : GIA. No idea. The movie is good. I like her hair.
49. Scottish psychiatrist R.D. __ : LAING. Another no idea. I bet Lois knows him.
55. Windows predecessor : MS-DOS
56. Sharp sensation : PANG
57. Transfix : AWE
58. "... __ mention ..." : NOT TO
59. Ornamented, as curtains : TASSELED
62. Sharpness : ACUMEN
68. Half of vingt : DIX. Dix = Ten. Vingt = Twenty. You won't see Splynter clue his DIX this way.
71. "Anchorman" producer Judd : APATOW
72. Place for a large E : EYE CHART
74. Wine grape : PINOT
75. Tournament break : BYE
77. Part of a roof : EAVE
78. Boundary : AMBIT
87. Welsh breed : CORGI
88. 2010 Mark Twain Prize winner : FEY (Tina). So talented.
89. Diving seabird : AUK. What is he doing?
90. Didn't spoil : KEPT
91. Meaningful interval : PERIOD
97. Region on the South China Sea : MACAO. Gambling mecca in Asia. They speak Cantonese there also.
100. Lunch letters : BLT
101. Looney Tunes animator Avery : TEX. Got via crosses.
102. Might well : IS APT TO
104. Plymouth passenger carrier : RAILCAR.
109. Self-congratulatory cries : TA-DAs
117. Online memos : E-NOTEs. Dennis likes to title his email subject line as "Note".
118. Microsoft reference : ENCARTA. No new updates.
119. Italian desserts : GELATI
120. Out of fashion : DEMODE
121. Tough teammate to handle : EGOTIST. Randy Moss, e.g.
122. Obeyed a canine command : HEELED
Down:
1. Prefix with -hedron : OCTA. Prefix for "eight".
2. Journalist Paula : ZAHN
3. Rare blood type: Abbr. : A NEG
4. Cage components : RIBS
5. Work with needles : KNIT
6. Circ. part : SEG
7. Hardly top-of-the-line : CHEAPO
8. Legal scholar Guinier : LANI. I can never remember her name.
9. Stimulus used in aversion therapy : ODOR.
23A. Important meeting for Domingo and colleagues? : THE BIG TENOR CONFERENCE. The Big Ten Conference.
33A. Pulpit tirade? : BLAST FROM THE PASTOR. Blast from the past.
50A. Sale of swampland? : MORASS MARKETING. Mass marketing.
63A. Disloyal union member? : LABOR RAT. Lab rat.
69A. "Babe," e.g.? : PIG STORY. Pig sty.
83A. Really conservative Conservatives? : OLD SCHOOL TORIES. Old school tie.
92A. Comment about a recently razed vacation complex? : THE RESORT IS HISTORY. The rest is history.
114A. Maine travel agency's come-on? : MORE BANGOR FOR YOUR BUCK. More bang for your buck.
Some ORs are inserted to the end of the word, some in the middle. Can you think of one with OR attached to the beginning?
Did the theme clues make you laugh? One of the challenges in letter addition/deletion/substitution theme is to come up with entertaining clues.
I still don't know who Verge is. Alias name, perhaps. I feel it's a he.
Across:
1. Missouri range : OZARKS. Scrabbly start.
7. Very friendly with : CLOSE TO
14. Legitimate : LAWFUL
20. Incisor neighbor : CANINE. Tooth.
21. Lost it : HAD A COW. "Don't have a cow, man!"
22. His team has an orange-and-black logo : ORIOLE. Baltimore Orioles.
26. Cabin fever, e.g. : ANGST
27. Salon supply : HAIR GEL
28. "Hmm ..." : I WONDER. And 115D. "Hmm ..." : GEE
29. Glom : COP. Did not know "glom" can mean "steal".
30. Hesitant sounds : UMs
32. A long time : YEARS
43. Like a hawk's perspective : AERIAL
44. __ agreement : ORAL
45. Recipe amount : CUP
46. Carides of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" : GIA. No idea. The movie is good. I like her hair.
49. Scottish psychiatrist R.D. __ : LAING. Another no idea. I bet Lois knows him.
55. Windows predecessor : MS-DOS
56. Sharp sensation : PANG
57. Transfix : AWE
58. "... __ mention ..." : NOT TO
59. Ornamented, as curtains : TASSELED
62. Sharpness : ACUMEN
68. Half of vingt : DIX. Dix = Ten. Vingt = Twenty. You won't see Splynter clue his DIX this way.
71. "Anchorman" producer Judd : APATOW
72. Place for a large E : EYE CHART
74. Wine grape : PINOT
75. Tournament break : BYE
77. Part of a roof : EAVE
78. Boundary : AMBIT
87. Welsh breed : CORGI
88. 2010 Mark Twain Prize winner : FEY (Tina). So talented.
89. Diving seabird : AUK. What is he doing?
90. Didn't spoil : KEPT
91. Meaningful interval : PERIOD
97. Region on the South China Sea : MACAO. Gambling mecca in Asia. They speak Cantonese there also.
100. Lunch letters : BLT
101. Looney Tunes animator Avery : TEX. Got via crosses.
102. Might well : IS APT TO
104. Plymouth passenger carrier : RAILCAR.
109. Self-congratulatory cries : TA-DAs
117. Online memos : E-NOTEs. Dennis likes to title his email subject line as "Note".
118. Microsoft reference : ENCARTA. No new updates.
119. Italian desserts : GELATI
120. Out of fashion : DEMODE
121. Tough teammate to handle : EGOTIST. Randy Moss, e.g.
122. Obeyed a canine command : HEELED
Down:
1. Prefix with -hedron : OCTA. Prefix for "eight".
2. Journalist Paula : ZAHN
3. Rare blood type: Abbr. : A NEG
4. Cage components : RIBS
5. Work with needles : KNIT
6. Circ. part : SEG
7. Hardly top-of-the-line : CHEAPO
8. Legal scholar Guinier : LANI. I can never remember her name.
9. Stimulus used in aversion therapy : ODOR.
10. Puppeteer Tony : SARG. Know this guy only from doing Xword.
11. Behold, to Brutus : ECCE
12. Prepare the factory : TOOL UP
13. Hold one's __ : OWN
14. Early movie mogul : LOEW (Marus). Founder of MGM.
15. Gully : ARROYO
16. Cybernetics pioneer Norbert : WIENER. Maybe Bill G knows him. I've got no idea.
17. 1981 Hepburn co-star : FONDA. "On Golden Pond". Henry Fonda. Also Jane Fonda.
18. Gastric woe : ULCER
19. Rude looks : LEERS
24. God in a chariot : THOR. Thunder god.
25. Rift : FISSURE
29. Grey Cup sports org. : CFL (Canadian Football League)
31. Large-beaked talker : MACAW. Melissa style picture. Lovely.
33. Soothing application : BALM
34. Green spans : LEAs. Nice clue. Would be even better if the answer is singular. It's hard to be Greenspan.
35. Requiring irrigation : ARID
36. Chinese: Pref. : SINO. Sino-US relationship.
37. They may put players out : TAGs
38. Poetic times : MORNs
39. Play genre : TRAGEDY
40. Suffers from : HAS
41. Some city lines : ELs
42. Toll rd. : TPK
46. Cuban base, familiarly : GITMO. "You can't handle the truth!".
47. Bury : INTER
48. Torment : AGONY
50. Movie-rating org. : MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America)
51. Beer-making aid : OAST
52. Magazine that began as a comic book : MAD
53. Some refs. : ENCs
54. Build up : TOUT
59. Experian, formerly : TRW. Forgot also.
60. It's made up : LIE. Quite true.
61. Passage : EXCERPT
62. Player rep. : AGT
63. __ luxury : LAP OF
64. Make __ of money : A PILE
65. Exchange, as words : BANDY
66. Onetime Siouan natives : OTOs
67. Campus military prog. : ROTC
69. Smooth, in a way : PAVE
70. Ticks off : IRES
72. Sniggler's target : EEL
73. 2010 earthquake site : HAITI
75. Historic Kentucky county : BOURBON. Whiskey.
76. Simple country type : YOKEL
78. Scores 90+ on : ACEs
79. Satirist Sahl : MORT
80. Liveliness : BRIO
81. Borodin prince : IGOR
82. Uncluttered : TIDY
84. Possess, to a Scot : HAE
85. Ring ruling : TKO (Techinical knockout)
86. Poetic contraction : O'ER
91. Photos : PIX
92. __-CD conversion: music collection updating system : TAPE TO
93. Breeding ground : HOT BED
94. Bad way to come on : STRONG
95. Visit overnight : STAY AT
96. Legend subject : HERO. Made me think of Killebrew. Nicest player I've ever met. TwinsFest wouldn't be the same without him.
97. Acted quietly? : MIMED
98. "... world will live __": "Imagine" : AS ONE
99. Bank : CAROM. Pool.
103. Facilitate an arrest, in a way : TASE
105. Oil acronym : ARCO (Atlantic Richfield Company). I just thought it's a name, Argyle!
106. "__ first ..." : IF AT
107. Actress Singer : LORI. She's famous for?
108. LCD flat panel displays have replaced many of them : CRTs
109. Bush overshadower : TREE. Oh, not President Bush.
110. Up to it : ABLE
111. Like a Jekyll and Hyde personality : DUAL
112. Comédie part : ACTE
113. Slide wildly : SKID
116. Word of disgust : UGH
Answer grid.
Hope Barry G comes back to us. All too sudden yesterday.
C.C.
Morning, all!
ReplyDeleteSad to say, the Rapture didn't take. Or, to be more precise, they kicked me out once they realized their mistake. I guess I'll just have to suffer through the end times with the rest of you sinners...
Fun puzzle today with an enjoyable theme. I figured it out early on and was able to blast through the long theme answers pretty quickly.
* What the heck is a Plymouth RAILCAR?
* The crossing of COP/CFL was the last letter to go in, and that's only because I left it until the very end and made a WAG.
* DEMODE is a new one for me. Is that French (and pronounced "day-mo-day"? Or is it just an awkward English neologism?
* I will never remember SARG, no matter how many times I see it in a puzzle.
*Anybody who names their child WIENER Norbert (or Norbert WIENER) should be shot. Through the lung. Twice.
Hi There ~!
ReplyDeleteBarryG, we're going to be doing crosswords to the bitter end....
And I gotta wonder, too, what is a Plymouth railcar, anyway?
And my last letter too, was the C in COP/CFL - I had an S; if you "COP" to a plea, you would "glom" it, since it's better than the full sentence, right(!?!?)
Odd, but I had RIPKEN in for "His team has orange and black" - just too specific, huh?
Tampa Bay hockey player with style?
- ORNATE THOMPSON
Splynter
C.C.,
ReplyDeleteHey, pardon your French, there, young lady ~!!
Splynter
89 across
ReplyDeleteI think he is killing the bird for food.
Good Morning, C.C. and friends. This was an interesting clue. I should have gotten MORE BANGOR FOR YOUR BOOK, since Bangor is only a few miles south from the home of where I (and Mainaic) went to college.
ReplyDeleteThere were a lot of obscure name clues, I though, such as GIA Carides, Tony SARG, and TEX Avery.
My favorite clues were: Cage Components = RIBS
Acted Quietly = MIMED.
It's Made Up = LIE.
I always that that one ACED an exam if one got 100, not a score above 90.
It's not Bad to Come On STRONG if you are Brenda Lee.
Lori Singer was in Footloose. Not sure what else she might have been in.
QOD: The future is not an inheritance, it is an opportunity and an obligation. ~ Bill Clinton
Good Morning C.C. et al.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the great links C.C. I loved the MACAWs - so vibrant! I gg'd "Verge", and I think you are right in guessing he is a "man", based on the obsolete meaning of that word...
As far as the puzzle itself - I liked the theme, and there was some nice misdirection in the clues ("what Hahtool said"). Then there were spots that gave me fits ("what Barry G. and Splynter said"). But a nice Sunday challenge.
Have a great day everyone!
I think Lori Singer was on the TV show "Fame" for a while too.
ReplyDeleteAll the unknown names got me today...
So, "vingt" is French...? I'm lucky I recognize 1-3 in some languages, forget 20!
C.C., I wouldn't say the theme entries were ALL humorous (some were), but I felt they were all clever and appropriate phrases when the OR was removed. I thought it was well done!
We've seen a puzzle(s) from Verge before, haven't we? Not that long ago, too...
Hello Puzzlers - Hand up for having no idea how Plymouth relates to RAILCARs.
ReplyDeleteLong pull to get through this puzzle. The theme eventually emerged, but the and/or title had me thinking it could be either word added to the fill.
Nab and COP seem quirky. Cop is used in England as a verb similar to "collar", as in apprehending a bad guy. I wonder whether nab has the same meaning there. I grew thinking of nab as "boost" or "snitch", as in shoplifting.
Brain controlled by the "Thought Police"
ReplyDeleteORwell trained mind
Character at Walt Disney Word:
ORlando calrissian
North Dakota city under government surveillance:
ORwell's fargo
What fun! BLASTFROMTHEPASTOR got me going and key words unlocked areas!
ReplyDeleteMusings
-TADA, got ‘er done!
-Huskers are joining Big 10 next year!
-More Bangor was my fav!
-My kids say COB instead of COP. They mean take not “cop a feel” which is a different story if you’re head of the IMF
-Didn’t know vingt or anything about Splynter’s dix or ambit
-I like Tina Fey too, but does she belong on the same list as Cosby, Carlin, Winters and Pryor?
-I likes them BLT’s with our fresh ‘maters!
-Balm not Aloe, Morns not Moons, Arco not OPEC, Torment/noun not verb
-I did this puzzle con brio!
-Ditto on Killebrew, C.C.!
-Imagine is about as anti religion as can be and a particularly pious choir director I knew had her kids sing it.
-Never heard of Golden Earring but loved the song.
-Could Plymouth Railcar refer to this N.Z. railroad?
Good morning all. I guess the rapture didn't kill us all after all.
ReplyDeleteFun but not stellar puzzle for me. The theme answers mostly came easily and were very helpful. BigTenor.. came into view with only a few perps in place, so it was clear what to look for. Liked MoreBangor...a lot. MorassMarketing not so much. Last to fall was the W in TRW and I had to do an alphabet run to get that.
Quite a few answers were all crosses. Had no clue on Vingt or Demode. Still, finished without assist and all in all, I'd give it a solid B.
104 a could be referring to the city in Massachusetts ??
ReplyDeleteCan anyone explain 65d BANDY
Good Morning All, I'm with most of you on 104A) Plymouth passenger carrier/RAILCAR. Is Plymouth a city, a company, a rail route? I tried post-puzzle to find a sensible explanation....Nope.
ReplyDeleteHG, interesting link, but the city mentioned is NEW Plymouth. You may be right about it being a British based term rather than American.
I was confused with 29)Glom/COP too. Glom has always been "glom on" or grab/catch. COP, other than policeman slang, has been "COP a feel". Most teenage boys have tried both. Years ago I was subject to both these maneuvers.
My book of the week is "Bossy Pants" by Tina FEY. Her humor writing is right up there with the best of them. She was head writer for SNL for nine years and is into the sixth season of "30 Rock" as star, writer and producer. Her spot-on impersonation of Sarah Palin in 2008 was video-viral for the whole campaign. She's only 41 and has destroyed Jerry Lewis' statement. "Women aren't funny."
CA, I'm with you. Tina Fey is a remarkable talent, and I'm soooo glad Lorne Michaels left her with no choice but to do a return appearance on SNL specifically for her expert Palin portrayal!
ReplyDeleteOn a related note, I have always disliked the living daylights out of Jerry Lewis.
Perhaps this is what was meant by Plymouth Passenger Carrier. This appears to be a strategic plan for train transportation in Plymouth, England. If this so, this was a very obscure reference. Nice Cuppa: does this mean anything to you?
ReplyDeleteJerry Lewis knows whereof he speaks; by the time he made that statement, or maybe AT the time, he had ceased being funny.
ReplyDeleteThanks Marti, I just looked up the definition of Verge's name. (Partially),according to Mirriam-Webster:
ReplyDelete1 a: a rod or staff carried as an emblem of authority or symbol of office b: the spindle of a watch balance; c: the male copulatory organ of any of various invertebrates 28. (Hmm ..." : I WONDER)
2 a : something that borders, limits, or bounds: as (1) : an outer margin of an object or structural part (2) : the edge of roof covering projecting over the gable of a roof
If it's a "nom de plume", it is pretty much of a "take your pick". Yes, probably a man.
Zcarguy@10:58, BANDY is to exchange words or ideas in a back and forth manner. Example: The phrase, "end of the world" was bandied about yesterday, but not many believed it to be true.
Hahtool@12:04, possible, but you're right...very obscure.
God afternoon, all. Good to see that our family of solvers is still intact and the world didn't fall apart.
ReplyDeleteI managed to work my way through the MORASS of unknowns, letter by letter, but wound up with an error at the FEY/BANDY crossing. I had BANDs, didn't like it, but didn't go back and check it again.
I think CA has it right about Plymouth carrier/RAILCAR referring to Plymouth, England. Expanding on her definition of RAILCAR, here's what Wikipedia has to say about Plymouth:
"Plymouth railway station serves the city of Plymouth, Devon, England. It has the largest number of passengers starting and finishing their journeys at any station in the county, and is the largest of the six surviving railway stations in the city, being the only one served by InterCity trains."
I've always considered glom and COP and nab to be somewhat synonymous when used in the sense of grab. With the 'O' in THOR, it had to be COP.
Although AB negative is rare, the rarest is O negative.3D)
ReplyDeleteWow! This one took me a while. Everything made sense once I figured them out. I have heard of Norbert Wiener and recognized the name but that's about all. Mostly I've heard the word BANDY in old movies.
ReplyDeleteAs I'm sure Lois will attest, a carom in pool (or billiards) is different from a bank. A bank shot refers to when the ball bounces off one or more cushions. In a carom shot, the cue ball hits another ball thereby changing its direction before hitting a second ball into a pocket. A kiss shot is when the cue ball hits a second ball into a third ball before the second ball goes into the pocket.
When I googled "Plymouth railcar", I did find a reference to the Plymouth Co. in Plymouth, OH that used to make railcars. I'll have to pull that up again and post it when I get home.
ReplyDeleteI guess good, ol' Verge could have been referring to any one of the ideas we presented...
Afternoon all!
ReplyDeleteC.C.--Great write-up. Here's one for you: Serial killer with a mouth fetish--ORAL BUNDY (Al Bundy from Married With Children).
104A Plymouth passenger carrier
ReplyDeleteIt may be what Dennis took to Florida. Car Carrier
Good Afternoon C.C.,
ReplyDeleteI was daunted by names today, as well as some of the clues. Thanks C.C. for your fine help and to posters for their opinions.
Re: I thought Verge might be someones nickname or someone who wants to live on the edge.
Been gone all weekend and I'm BUSHed.
Have a nice evening everyone.
Hello everybody. Yes, what Barry G said. Best wishes to you all.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I found the original Plymouth article I'd seen, plus a few others, but they only referenced locomotives for indistrial transport, but not passenger transport...
ReplyDeleteThe closest I could come to an entry with OR at the front was WHAT AN ORDEAL! But when you remove the OR, I'm stuck with an extra "N"... DRAT!
C.C. and Jeannie,
ReplyDeleteI hope neither of you were anywhere near today's tornados. Thinking of you.
Oh, the puzzle? No ta-da's today.If one can cop a feel, can one also glom one too? I'm such a deep thinker!
Loved cage components/ribs.
Eddy, disappointing game today. Did you like the way Bones ended?
Piggybacking on JD's last comment, there have been numerous references to the ending of The Mentalist here the last few days. In deference to those who tivo'd and have not yet watched, I won't spoil it.....but OMG!!! I finally got to it last night and could not believe it.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I've been remiss. I appreciate the encouragement to "go blue" and the warm reception I've recieved. Glad y'all like my self portrait. :-)
Argyle, if you're talking about Dennis taking the Auto Train, this is what the car carriers look like. Each car carrier has two levels of 5 cars each. The train itself is 3/4 of a mile long and is the jewel of the Amtrak fleet.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I'm a bit of a train freak.
Hi Avg Joe, welcome. I'm sure there's lots of interesting stuff that you can share when you feel ready.
ReplyDeleteLet's try again: Car carrier
ReplyDeleteOk, let's try this again: Car carrier
ReplyDeleteCar carrier
ReplyDeleteHey everyone; Vingt et un (20 plus one) is the game 21, also known as blackjack. Easiest way to remember 20 in French; will work on Trente (30).
ReplyDeleteAJ, welcome to our world in color, like you avatar and felt that way after the Preakness where I had played a superfecta but did not have Shackelford coming out on top. Ah well.
Puzzle was fun, but now we start all over again.
Mentalist talk-- anybody not see their reocrded version yet? Lots of comments waiting to come out.
Thanks CC and see ya
I haven't seen the Mentalist yet. My husband has been OOT and I am waiting to watch it when he comes home.
ReplyDeleteAverage Joe, Welcome! We are an eclectic group. Your avatar shows you will fit right in!
Jack, the (almost) anonymous train freak.
ReplyDeleteYes, I meant the auto train but I used the image that showed cars on railcar anyway.
For some reason your second two posts were caught in the blogs spam trapper but since the last post was the charm, I'll just go ahead and delete them.
The Plymouth name was dropped in 2001. If the constructor did mean the auto train and was looking for alliteration, Verge might better have used Prius passenger carrier.
Good Evening All, It looks like 104A) Plymouth passenger carrier/RAILCAR will remain "a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma". Maybe the edgy and somewhat mysterious Verge will stop by one of these days and let us know what he(she?) meant.
ReplyDeleteOur chorus concert today went very well. I really enjoyed doing it. Separately, we may be mostly average, but all together, we are pretty good. One of our member' husband did a video. Once I get a copy, I'll try to crop a few numbers and post them on YouTube.
Sorry to be late in posting, but we get these puzzles a few days later in Saudi Arabia.
ReplyDeleteDid anyone else notice the high incidence of answers ending in o in this puzzle?
I counted 12 of them: CHEAPO, CLOSE TO, ARROYO, SINO, GITMO, NOT TO, TKO, BRIO, TAPE TO, MACAO, IS APT TO, ARCO.
Except for RAILCAR and AMBIT, it was an enjoyable puzzle to finish.