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Jun 10, 2013

Monday, June 10, 2013 C.C. Burnikel

Theme: On The Refrigerator Door - The four theme entries are comprised of two words. The first starts with TO and the second starts with DO. The reveal is in the center.

17A. '70s-'80s Dallas Cowboys running back : TONY DORSETT

24A. The highest price : TOP DOLLAR

34A and 36-Across. Agenda that consists of 17-, 24-, 51- and 59-Across : TO-DO. 36-Across : LIST

51A. "Hang down your head" guy in a Kingston Trio #1 hit : "TOM DOOLEY"

59A. Comes in for a landing : TOUCHES DOWN

Argyle here. If you don't have a to-do list, you're one of few. I think C.C. missed a chance to add some other terms, like CLEAN, PAINT, WASH, but then, who wants to be reminded? We come here to forget those things for a while and enjoy a nice crossword puzzle. Strong stacks fill two corners and, how does Splynter put it, two more inside the other corners. C.C. also has a similar style of theme in the NYT today. Congratulations.

Across:

1. Operatic superstar : DIVA

5. Home of principal Norse gods : ASGARD

11. Long, fluffy wrap : BOA

14. Cries of discovery : AHAs

15. Sporty Mazdas : MIATAs

16. Towel holder : ROD

19. "That feels so good!" : "AHH!"

20. Jetties : PIERS. Dock of the bay.

21. Shade of color : HUE

22. Nail shaper : FILE

23. American rival : DELTA. Airlines.

26. Communication syst. for the deaf : ASL. (American Sign Language) and for the blind, 11D. Alphabet read with the fingers : BRAILLE Another type of code. 57A. Samuel with a telegraph code : MORSE

27. Sailor's jail : BRIG

29. Decorative metal grate : GRILLE. example

30. Extinct New Zealand birds : MOAs


32. Sci-fi visitors : ET's

33. Sandwich loaf : BREAD. Odd clue.

38. Moth-repellent closet wood : CEDAR

41. Tend a tot : SIT

42. Use UPS, say : SHIP

46. Unmanned planes : DRONEs

48. Swiss painter Paul : KLEE. Not my kind of art.

50. Alias letters : AKA. (also known as)

53. Cher's TV partner : SONNY. They actually dressed like that, back in the day.(like a Klee painting)


55. Bluesman Redding : OTIS. Find him on the dock of the bay.

56. Tippler : SOT. (heavy drinker)

58. Take the title : WIN

62. Prefix with system : ECO

63. Title for Nature : MOTHER. Don't mess with her ecosystem.

64. Nobelist Wiesel : ELIE

65. Dorm mgrs. : RA's. (Resident Assistant)

66. On the same page : IN SYNC

67. Mechanical learning : ROTE

Down:

1. "Who __?": Saints fans' chant : DAT. (New Orleans Saints)

2. "Fingers crossed!" : "I HOPE SO!"

3. Basic ice cream flavor : VANILLA

4. Up to now : AS YET

5. "Famous" cookie guy : AMOS. More cookies! 35D. Pulled-apart cookie : OREO

6. Madam's partner : SIR. This Madam will partner with any "Sir".


7. Fuel guzzlers : GAS HOGS

8. Really enjoyed : ATE UP

9. Like movies for the whole family : RATED G

10. This year, it ends Nov. 3rd : DST. (Daylight Saving Time)

12. "Très chic!" : "OOH LA LA!"

13. Stuck as if glued : ADHERED

18. Far from flashy : DRAB

22. Bats one's eyelashes, say : FLIRTS

23. River blocker : DAM

24. Jackson 5 brother : TITO. (the third eldest)

25. Planets : ORBs

28. Sunburn color : RED

31. Place for fans to sit : STANDS. Bit of silliness.

36. __ of the valley : LILY

37. Suffix with Canaan : ITE

38. Tall media storage cabinet : CD TOWER. (compact disc)

39. Blue writing? : EROTICA

40. Pizza chain with a rectangular three-dot logo : DOMINO'S

41. Merely outlined : SKETCHY

43. Princess Leia rescuer : HAN SOLO. (Star Wars)

44. "You didn't fool me!" : "I KNEW IT!"

45. Pony up : PAY

47. "Already?" : "SO SOON?". Yes, we are almost done.

49. Those, to Juan : ESOS

52. Oafs : LOUTs

54. Judge's demand : ORDER

57. Autodom's Cougar, briefly : MERC. (Mercury)

59. 1979 Pa. meltdown site : TMI. (Three Mile Island)

60. Layer in a coop : HEN

61. Word between surnames : NÉE


Argyle


66 comments:

  1. Morning, all!

    Delightful double dose of C.C. puzzles today, with this one and her [solo] debut in the NYT. Both top-notch efforts as well.

    I stumbled a bit on TONY DORSETT, but only until the perps came to my rescue. Everything else (including TOM DOOLEY) was solidly in my wheelhouse and went down without a fight.

    [perafes]

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  2. A perfect puzzle for my age group with all the theme answers resonating, though I started with the T D and that got me going.


    I just watched an interview with Tony Dorsett and his amazing 99 yard run against the Vikings.

    Must run to the NYT.

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  3. Good Morning, Argyle and friends. A fun puzzle from our hostess.

    I wasn't fooled by the American Rival. American and Delta are two of the very few airlines left.

    Elie Wiesel was the recipient of the 1986 Nobel Peace Prize for taking action and speaking out against violence, repression and racism.

    I especially liked Place for Fans to Sit = STANDS.

    Today's QOD is Where the Wild Things Are: Grown-ups are afraid for children. It’s not children who are afraid. ~ Maurice Sendak (June 10, 1928 ~ May 8, 2012)

    [aphorign]

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  4. morning everyone,

    Nice start to the week today thanks to CC. No issues with the exception of one or two "not too sure of's", but perps came to the rescue when needed. Really wanted Vahalla for 5A but just couldn't get it to fit! ASGARD doesn't seem quite as Viking.

    My first crack at TOM DOOLEY was Dolley, but it was a quick correction. Kingston Trio were a biggie when I was at the U.

    There was a time when I could tell the Make & Model of every car on the road. Today I don't know a MIATA from a Jeep.

    Big rain supposed to be arriving today.
    just what we don't need.

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  5. Hi, all!

    Swell puzzle, CC! Great write-up, Argyle!

    No problems. DORSETT helped by perps.

    Back no getting better after fall on the cement the other day. Really agonizing. Ordered a new type on TENS unit without awful cords and patches. Can't wait for it to get here!

    Pool not back in operation.

    Happy Monday!

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  6. Good morning!

    Congrats, C.C., on your dual publication today. Nicely done.

    EROTICA? I HOPE SO. OOH LA LA! I KNEW IT! DAMn FLIRTS! Fun stuff.

    I let the perps decide on TONY DORSETT. The rest flowed smoothly from my Pilot G-2.

    Have a great day!

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  7. Hello Puzzlers -

    Cruciverb is malfunctioning again. Hafta find another puzzle platform - anybody got a Gazette? Oh, and can I borrow a pencil?

    :-)

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  8. Good Morning Everybody. Welcome to another week.

    I can strike the puzzle off my TO DO LIST. Smooth, easy, breezy. I hope the rest of our days go this way!

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  9. Good morning, folks. Thank you, C.C., for a swell puzzle. Thank you, Argyle, for the fine write-up.

    Zipped through this quickly.

    GAS HOGS helped me with ASGARD.

    Everything else was pretty much known.

    I have a big day (again) with lots TO DO.

    See you tomorrow.

    Abejo

    (oflblec)

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  10. Good morning from the beautiful Carolina coast! Delightful start to a vacation week with C.C.’s fun offering. Congratulations on having two puzzles published on the same day. Thanks for an entertaining write-up, Argyle.

    Enjoyed the theme, especially since the only thing on my TO DO list today is to decide whether to hang out on the beach or at the pool. Nice-n-easy solve with ASGARD the only unknown – like Hondo, I wanted Valhalla. Favorite fill was OOH-LA-LA. I like Argyle’s example of a GRILLE lots better than this kind.

    Think I’ll go supervise the tide coming in. Have a great day, everyone!

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  11. Are even senior women supposed to know TONY DORSETT? It's Monday, you know.

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  12. Congratulations C.C. on your premier double .... I must try the NYT puzzle today, at once.

    As the famous Rabbi Hillel said,'If Not Now, When ' .... and paraphrasing, "If not I, then who ?".

    Hahtoolah, your QOD dovetails nicely into todays GOOGLE doodle - a long, and complex pictorama of the works of Maurice Sendak, the illustrator of kids books, including,'Where the wild things are'. The doodle is a masterpiece, IMHO. I called and alerted my grandson's parents.

    The puzzle was nice and fairly easy. Asgard being my only wag, taken care by the perps. Thank you C.C.

    Argyle, always enjoy your charming commentary. Thank you.

    Last week, I accidently met an Indian-American, who is on the FCC comm., a Republican, nominated by the current President. Wonder of wonders.

    Have a nice day, you all.

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  13. Dudley,

    Try www.merriam-webster.com They are there every day. Been using them for several months now and no problems. My only bitch is on occasion they are a little late unmaking the current day available.

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  14. CC, somehow you always make easy Mondays interesting and fun.

    The Miata appeals to my Walter Mitty side. If I could afford a frivolous second car to be used occasionally I would get a Miata. It is a two seater with limited trunk space and not good on ice and snow, but very sexy.
    Link Miata The AS gave me ASGARD. From Wiki: In Norse mythology, Valhalla (from Old Norse Valhǫll "hall of the slain"[1]) is a majestic, enormous HALL located in Asgard, ruled over by the god Odin.

    Not having had a computer for two and a half weeks my TO DO LIST is yeah long. I needed to access my saved DOCs as templates for my new tasks. I also needed the keyboard and mouse to write long emails. It’s good to be back in business.

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  15. Great start to the week, and a wonderful day for our fearless leader: C.C. congrats on your double whammy today! Great puzzle with virtually no hold-ups. The only perped guess was DORSETT.

    I enjoyed Argyle's link to the Sonny and Cher clip too, which brought back memories--and a reminder of how she used to look before "having work done".

    Hondo,
    I too used to know all the cars on the road. But where I was, it was mostly Holdens, Vauxhalls, Cortinas, Austins and Beetles, and just a few large American "yank tanks". Now so many vehicles look similar, their uniqueness is more subtle.

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  16. Nice puzzle. I don't have 'to do', lists - my lists are 'Do this, AT ONCE, or else ...'.

    Later.

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  17. Good morning everyone. I Liked Argyle's ruminations on TO DO LISTS.

    What a nice pleasant surprise from C.C.to start the week! I continue to be amazed at how well she has the American vernacular down pat. A nice olio of fill from LOUTS to KLEE to EROTICA. It was easy enough but I did have 'send' before SHIP, before I KNEW IT was wrong. Too bad about losing the MOA; which was also a ratite like the emu and rhea.
    Thanks C.C. BZ

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  18. I remember meeting Sonny and Cher when I've Got You Babe first came out. They appeared at a rock concert sponsored by our radio station.

    Here are some interesting maps on the geography of pronunciation. I'm color-blind and wish they'd chosen different colors. But I'm definitely from the land of the bubbler. Interesting stuff!

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  19. Hi there~!

    I had me one of those Mercury Cougars, but it was a '69 - such an awesome car; had the roll-up headlight covers, and the sequential tail-lights you now see on the new Mustang.

    Congrats, C.C., on a double pub (lication).

    The girl I like that works at the Home Depot is "Lily"

    Close, Argyle - inside the "edges" :7)

    Splynter

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  20. Congratulations, CC, on your double publication day!
    This puzzle was a very nice start to a week, not too hard, but not too easy, either.

    I use an original iPad and Cruciverb/Across Lite to do the puzzle, most days. (Now that I have learned how to shut off red letter help.) Does anyone know of a site where we can get the puzzle when Cruciverb is down? The Corner link and Merriam-Webster sites use Flash technology and that doesn’t work on an Apple product. I checked a few other sites mentioned on Google, but they also use Flash.

    There are a lot of small towns, by most of your standards, in NorthEastern Montana. Years ago, retired teachers banded together and formed a NE MT Retired Educators group. They meet once a month in one of the towns. A person can drive up to 150 miles to get to a meeting but it is at noon with a meal and excellent programs. I am the driver today, but only need to drive 70 miles to get there.

    Have a good week,

    Montana

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  21. Good day, Puzzlers.

    OOH, LA LA! Congratulations, C.C., on your dual publications! I echo what others have said about your grasp of the language. It's more than impressive.

    Do I remember TONY DORSETT? You bet I do!! I can still see him running in his tight uniform back when the Dallas Cowboys ruled football.

    Otherwise, WEES about the puzzle and VALHALLA. I was sure that was it and was surprised when it didn't fit.

    I loved the clip of SONNY and Cher. Usually they didn't wear that much clothes, especially Cher. Does anyone recall the transparent costumes?

    Thank you, C.C. and Argyle for the lovely entertainment today. My TO DO LIST is to have lunch ready for my company at noon.

    Have a superbly wonderful Monday, everyone!

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  22. Double dose of CC today! Excellent work.

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  23. Hi Everyone ~~

    Congrats, C.C. on your two puzzles today! I did them both and enjoyed them both! As Yellowrocks said, you make easy Monday puzzles fun, which is not always the case.

    Although "our" puzzle went quickly, I have to admit that at first I saw only the T - D. Only with the unifier did I see how clever this really was, with TO - DO!

    Now that I think about it, I may have missed the same thing in your NYT puzzle. (I won't say more in case others haven't done it.) I should know by now that your puzzles always have more than what first meets the eye. Thanks for the fun!

    ~ Thanks for the write-up, Argyle - I enjoyed your comments, pics, and links.

    ~ Splynter ~ best of luck with 36D. ;-)

    ~ Java Mama ~ enjoy your vacation - sounds like you have a great start!

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  24. There's no better way to start the week than to open the Monday paper and find a C.C. puzzle. Yay! And, of course, it was a delight--a clever speed run with just enough challenge and lots of fun items. I loved the pairings of BRAILLE and ASL, the cars, MIATA and MERC, and, of course, the clever theme which I didn't get until the reveal.

    Also enjoyed the trip down memory lane with TOM DOOLEY, SONNY AND CHER, and a visit with BEA ARTHUR, thanks to Argyle.

    I think DOMINO'S PIZZA was started in Ann Arbor when I was teaching there some decades ago. Also Border's book store.

    Barry, what's a wheelhouse? I hear the expression a lot, but can't figure out to what it refers.

    Have a wonderful week, everybody!

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  25. Fun Monday even w/ASGARD! Post later after golf, zoo, ball game and a "new card trick" from grandkids.

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  26. Bill G. and fellow math lovers -

    Going through D-Otto's pronunciation link, I came across some math problems and voila the 12 most controversial facts in mathematics, 11 most common math errors, 10 of the most famous mathematicians in history etc.

    Enjoy.

    C.C. Again, Most Hearty Congratulations on your phenomenal double - in the New York Times AND the L. A. Times, no less. You go (girl) !

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  27. WHEELHOUSE: An enclosed area, usually on the bridge of a vessel, from which the vessel is controlled when under way. It is used to indicate a batter's zone where he is most likely to hit a pitch.

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  28. I'm guessing that "wheelhouse" is just another way of expressing one's area of authority. Isn't "In my wheelhouse" equivalent to "on my desk" or "in my bag"?

    Funny: in all my years of hearing about Norse mythology, this is the first I have heard of ASGARD. AVALON, yes, and VALHALLA too, but ASGARD (Old Norse: "Ásgarðr")? Not till now. Thanks for the enlightenment!

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  29. Hi Everyone:

    Late to the dance due to doctor's appointment and having to do the puzzle today, rather than last night. A pox on Cruciverb! (Sorry, Thumper.)

    Fun puzzle, as always, CC, and congrats on your NY Times debut. We're so proud of you, Neat expo, Argyle.

    I was all set to watch A Late Quartet with Maggie Smith and company only to have a defective DVD. Grrrrr!

    Happy Monday.

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  30. Definitely WBS covers everything I needed to say, (but when have I ever stopped there...)

    Picked up on the ToDo Theme right away, & merrily filled in all the T's & D's. It was not until I read the Blog that the V8 can hit me... "I could have added to "O's" too!!! Doh!"

    33A Sandwich Loaf as clue for "bread," Hmm, I would have really liked "moolah" as the clue...

    43D Princess Leia rescuer = Han Solo. I cannot find the clip, but somewhere after the the rescue as Leia is bemoaning her botched rescue, Luke Skywalker can be heard to squeek, "I helped!"

    JavaMama@7:48 Supervising the incoming tide,,, I like it! (Excuse my while I supervise my grass growing..)

    Mazda Miata! Boy would I love one of those. Except the only way I could get in one is with a shoe horn. What a sight! Sparks flying as I cruised down the street because the left side bottomed out under my weight. (well I can dream can't I...)

    Hmm, CC did the NYT today,,,(should I try it?) Hmm, I don't know... I am still only up to figuring out thursdays on my local paper. But it is a Monday,,,, maybe I can do it,,, but where online can I find it???

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  31. Desper-otto, I truly enjoyed your maps of pronunciation. Being raised in a suburb of Chicago, I know that the correct way is that of Chicago. We were told that this is why the radio networks all were based in Chicago, back in the day.

    Hello to you all. I've been lurking, not posting. The chemo is going well: no side effects other than sleeping a lot. But an infection of the post and the placement of the iPicc means a nurse every day to flush and repack.

    But I do love Mondays and Tuesdays when I can do them, mostly. Today didn't glok 5A and TONYDORSE--.But did get the rest. Hooray.

    Cheers

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  32. D-Otto,
    I like your fun stuff. I had lots of fun filling this grid.

    Splynter & LaLaLinda,
    I'm sure glad LILY is 36D rather than 36A.

    Pas de chat & Dave,
    You have to be a NYT subscriber to get their on-line puzzles.

    Sallie,
    So good to see you!

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  33. Good morning Argyle, C.C., et al,

    A double whoopee for you, C.C. Thanks for a fun start to the week. Got the TO DO's right away which helped. Asked DH for Tony's last name. Last fill was asgarD.Took a long time to a-ha the Dst. Can't say I've never heard of Asgard, but it was definitely not in my wheelhouse, which is probably 1/2oth the size of Barry's.

    Nice grille, Argyle. Enjoyed Sonny and Cher.
    Lucina, Cher, at 67, is still wearing transparent costumes.Saw her in L.V. a few years ago.

    Misty, are there any Borders bookstores left? The one here and the one in Kauai closed a few years ago. Now they are beginning to close some Barnes and Nobles.I wonder how long it will be before we HAVE to read books on our ipads, kindles, etc.

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  34. That was a very pleasant Monday puzzle. For me, it was a big step up in enjoyability from Saturday and Sunday.

    I used to be a pro at discerning difference among cars. The 1955-1960 Fords and Chevys had very appealing and very different styling.

    Vidwan, I very much enjoyed your first math link about 12 most controversial facts in mathematics but I couldn't find the others (11 math errors, 10 famous mathematicians) for some reason. Where are they located?

    We all know words that are used incorrectly from time to time. I think I've come across a fairly common word that is used incorrectly more often than it's used correctly. Any guesses?

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  35. Hello everybody. Excellent puzzle today. Impressive stacks of long fill. Not hard, but much fun to solve.

    Vidwan and desper-otto, loved following the links you provided. Fascinating to see the distribution of variations in pronunciation and vocabulary, and to follow the logic of the various statistical problems. A fruitful way to spend an hour.

    CrossEyedDave, funny to-do lists. I especially liked the first one.

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  36. Argyle, thanks for explaining "wheelhouse" to me, and you too, Keith, for giving me the general sense.

    Oh dear. Our Borders in Costa Mesa closed a while ago but I hoped that they were still around in other places. So it's worrisome to hear of other closures, JD. Sadly, I probably contribute to the trend since I buy most of my books from Amazon these days. With my husband's disability I just don't get out much anymore.

    Sallie, it's terrific to hear from you. Do check in from time to time if you can. We have you in our thoughts.

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  37. I should mention too, the turntable that was used in train yards to point the engines in any direction was known as the wheelhouse.

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  38. I thought it was called a roundhouse.
    "Head for the roundhouse, Nellie, they can't corner you there."

    The part of our ship where the manuevering control was, such as the helm and the engine order telegraph, was called the pilot house.

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  39. Bill G. - the 11 most common short cuts to do the math, and the 10 most famous mathematicians in history - all follow from the first series - they open up when the first list is ending - just click on the link, and move on.

    The link is available to you as you end the first one, then as the second one ends, etc.

    I don't know how else to describe it. Try it again, and look around you, when you end the first series of panels, another link will open up.

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  40. Hola Everyone, I knew I was in for a treat when I saw C.C."s by-line on the puzzle today. Things went well, but I didn't get to solving until my to-do list was complete this morning.

    No real hang-ups. I thought the clue for Title for Nature/Mother and Layer in a coop/hen were fun. I even knew Tony Dorsett!

    My daughter's hens are laying enough eggs right now for her to supply her customers with a lot of eggs when they come to buy.

    The Google today is amazing. Celebrating Maurice Sendak's 85th birthday with a very clever animation. "Where The Wild Things Are" is one of my all time favorite children's books.

    Dudley, Pencils are plentiful here at our house. I'll even give you one. You won't have to borrow it!


    Have a great day everyone.

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  41. Woo Hoo, and a pat on the back to C.C. for her NY Times puzzle debut.

    CED: I thought your To-do lists were hilarious. The first one would be so much fun to do, but how many of us would have the nerve to try those things? Just asking.

    roymmen

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  42. Yahoo games, then downloads has the LA times crossword, works very well. I don't know what system they use.

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  43. Chickie, perhaps you're wondering why we called you here. LOL

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  44. Hi all!
    We were gone most of the weekend until yesterday afternoon so I didn't get to most puzzles. Now we have a nice Monday puzzle-Thank you C.C. for a very that.

    On 42A I also had send instead of ship. The to do list was fun and I liked Tom Dooley. I was hoping someone would be able to post it.

    Weather here beautiful is beautiful today.

    Have a good evening all. I have to go make the cornbread to go with our ham and beans that are cooking.

    Marge

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  45. Wow:
    Sorry for all my mistakes hope you can figure it out.
    Marge

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  46. Jayce, good one. You are right in that irregardless is always used incorrectly. The word I was thinking of is "comprise" as in, Crossword Corner is comprised of many insightful people.

    Vidwan, thanks. I've got it now.

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  47. Thanks for the reference to the math facts, Vidwan! It must be noted that the numbers referred to in Benford's Law cannot be dimensionless! (Otherwise, the whole idea is ridiculous!) Loved the easy probability problem (gold and silver bars).

    Yes, how do you access the other lists?

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  48. RD, thanks for the info. I went to Yahoo games and found the puzzle, but it won't work on an iPad.

    Montana

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  49. CC: I broke down and spent the 40 clams to subscribe to the NYT crossword in your honor! Fun puzzle! How do you do it?

    PS The captchas have been driving me nuts lately. Eyes getting dimmer, it seems.

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  50. For Marge @ 4:57 – here’s a clip of Tom Dooley (3:05). I’m not sure if it’s supposed to be audio-only, or if my computer is just acting wonky. I sometimes get just a black screen when I try to play other people’s video links.

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  51. Dear C.C., Wow! Covered both coasts and kept us happy in the heartland! What an achievement! Very clever LA Times puzzle.

    Thanks, Argyle! Loved the clips.

    Never remember ever seeing ASGARD before but typed it right in after getting AS. Couldn't believe it stayed in the black.

    Tommy Dorsett? WHO DAT? I'm not into football.

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  52. PK, how 'bout his brother Tony?

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  53. Hi Sports fans !

    TONY DORSETT scored a TOUCHDOWN on this puzzle, and so did I ! Actually, I see that CC scored, claiming victory in both the LA Times and the NY Times.

    Jayce, I'm with you on irregardless. It's so common and so wrong. Not that I should feel superior for knowing that one. I dangle participles and incorrectly conjugate that I need a word processor that checks context, and I still don't use it.


    What Marge said about the weekend. Couldn't get to it yesterday.

    Saturday's wannabes and followers answer was Klingons. Get it ? Cling "Ons." OK, not that funny. Gary was so close.

    CED, great To-Do Lists. I can relate.

    Java Mama, enjoy that vacation ! I want one.

    Sallie, you are in my thoughts and prayers. Be strong like bull.

    You ALL rock ! Love being on this blog and hearing your comments.

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  54. Fermatprime,
    I'm sorry to hear that the result of your fall still hurts. Please email me.
    Hand up for wheelhouse relating to baseball. When the pitched ball is in your wheelhouse you can get a hit. When the clue is in your wheelhouse you can get an answer. When it is not, lotsa luck, or you must rely on perps and wags.
    I have read several great historical novels about the fierce Vikings which included discussions of Asgard. In nonfiction, Jared Diamond's "Collapse" had a whole fascinating section on the collapse of the Norse civilization, among others.
    I find it interesting that most people cannot hear some of the aspects of how their pronunciation differs from others. Merry, Mary, and marry have different pronunciations in most dictionaries, as do cot and caught, to name a few. The nasal a in the pronunciation of Kathy in the Midwest grates on me. I am sure my pronunciation is odd to them.

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  55. @Yellowrocks - I can't really hear the merry/Mary thing, but know that New Jersey(ites?) can.

    In Upstate NY, the As are mighty flat, sometimes hard-to-take.

    I saw a chart of the soda/pop line - it runs somewhere around Rochester/Buffalo. That isn't pronunciation, but still interesting.

    I remember when there were still old ladies who still said vac-u-um, 3 syllables.

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  56. I'll be the first to admit that with my western PA / eastern Ohio / central Texas upbringing that when I speak it's hard to understand whether I'm saying Cal (as in Ripken), Cow, or Kyle. AFAIC, there's only one way to say Mary, merry, and marry.

    My favorite accents are Pittsburgh and Philly, followed by south Jersey, although I agree that the midwest is the area that is most devoid of any accent.

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  57. If you just want to see CC`s NYT puzzle, go


    here

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  58. Congratulations on your double-header today, C.C.!

    Seeing Tony Dorsett in today's puzzle got me off to a happy start. He was already a local celebrity when he was playing football at University of Pittsburgh! My sister saw him running through the airport to catch his plane once, ala the OJ commercial around that time.

    And Lucina, those tight uniforms were appriciated back then too!

    TTP, my Pittsbugh accent still comes out, even after being living in FL for 29 years. Even my attitude mellows out when I'm back around all those kind, friendly people again.

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  59. Thanks anonymous for posting C.C.'s puzzle. Looks like it was fun too.

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  60. Argyle, thanks for that. Seems that he WAS" blessed with all the physical tools..."

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  61. I grew up in Virginia. When I went to Ithaca, NY to go to college, I always got hassled about the way I pronounced OUT, ABOUT, etc. I could never hear what I was doing different from everybody else but they sure did and they teased me about it constantly. Even Barbara...

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  62. @Dennis

    I thought of you while watching this week's episode. Wild, man. Can't imagine what your opinion of the events might be.

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