Across:
1. Celebrate Black Friday, say: SHOP - There is no item for which I'm willing to risk life and limb to save $100
5. Data transmission unit: BAUD - If you're interested
9. Jets: SPEWS - Here are various SPEW patterns including Jet but not a 21. Windex unit: SPRITZ.
14. TV show set in a theme park: WEST WORLD - If you're interested
16. Island along the Au'au Channel: LANAI - There's the channel and the island
17. Scheming: IN CAHOOTS - He may have this all wrong
18. Red Sox slugger David: ORTIZ - "Big Papi" in the news this year
19. Spears label: RCA.
20. Epps of "House": OMAR - I wonder if this name was ever clued as "The Tentmaker" before House
22. Noble title: LORD.
24. Nickname for "The King of Clay": RAFA.
26. Goofy image?: CEL - This Disney CEL recently sold for over $33,000 at auction. Is that goofy?
27. California wine region: SONOMA - Charred vineyards in Sonoma from the Kincade fire last month
30. Tchotchke holder: ETAGERE - Yeah, sure, I knew this word and needed no perps. 😏 Looks like shelves to me
33. Beyoncé and Jay-Z, e.g.: POWER COUPLE and 62. Tabloid twosomes: ITEMS
36. Symbolic gift, often: DIAMOND RING.
38. Corporate espionage target: TRADE SECRET - Roger Easton (right), KFC's CEO, moves the Colonel Sanders' handwritten secret recipe into a newer, more secure safe40. Swamp gas, essentially: METHANE.
43. Watch closely: PEER AT - Intently watching a colleague fish? PEERING at your PEER on the PIER
45. The "black" in black ice: TAR - A scary driving problem in our part of the country
46. Worshipper's subject: IDOL.
49. "The Open Window" author: SAKI - Pen name for Hector Hugh Munro
50. Coat-like garments: FROCKS
53. Collars: NABS.
56. It can be risky to work without one: NET - Here's how you train to do that
58. Place to get some culture?: PETRI DISH - Some faculty lounge refrigerators contain unintended examples of one of these
60. Arabic for "struggle": JIHAD.
61. Repurposed railway, perhaps: BIKE ROUTE - Part of the 195 mile long Cowboy Trail (abandoned Chicago and Northwestern RR line) in northern Nebraska
63. Lot: SLEW.
64. Bruise-resistant potatoes, say, briefly: GMOS - Very interesting reading about Genetically MOdified potatoeS.
Down:
1. Some cake decorations: SWIRLS.
2. House with many layers: HEN COOP - HEN house? Yes! Chicken COOP? - Yes. HEN COOP? and 6. Cheering loudly: AROAR - Constructors hafta to do what constructors hafta do.
3. Character recognition?: OSCAR NOD - There are those who feel John Wayne could have gotten the OSCAR NOD for playing John Stryker, Sean Thornton, Tom Doniphon, et al and not necessarily for playing Rooster Cogburn in 1969
4. Bk. fair organizer: PTA.
5. Good time: BOOM - My farmer friends all say you'd better put some money away during a BOOM because a bust is sure to follow
7. __ running: more-than-a-marathon race: ULTRA - Various definitions of ULTRA Running
8. Driller's deg.: DDS - Last week we had the ROTC drilling and in the past we have had OPEC drilling
9. Farm fare: SLOP.
10. Henry VIII's sixth: PARR
11. Sweet-talk: ENTICE.
12. One needing orders: WAITER - Doing so electronically
13. Pizzazz: SIZZLE.
15. "Don't know her": WHO
21. Course for H.S. exam takers: SAT PREP - Sample question: (math haters move on). Answer at the bottom *
23. Benefit by: DO WITH - I could DO WITH losing more weight
25. Longstanding disputes: FEUDS - They headed up a famous one
28. Funny Anne: MEARA - Jerry Stiller's wife Anne
29. Fancy suits: ARMANIS.
31. "... a grin without a cat!" thinker: ALICE.
32. Action and adventure: GENRES - Prounced [dZSH]AWN-ruh with the Z, d, and SH all combined into one sound.
34. Produced some Java: CODED - Computer CODE not 54. Produce some java: BREW coffee35. x/x: ONE - Only we math peeps know/care that x ≠ 0
37. Garden favorite also known as cranesbill: GERANIUM - A very distinctive scent
39. Becomes fond of: TAKES TO - I have really TAKEN TO golf now that I have time to play a lot
40. Peak that last erupted in 1707-'08: MT FUJI - MT FUJI in winter from the International Space Station. The Hoei crater was the site of the last eruption
41. Be deserving: EARN IT - Hmmm...
42. Cough drop: TROCHE - Didn't know the word or its pronunciation
44. Donates, in a way: TITHES.
47. First African-American major-league coach Buck: O'NEIL - In the sea of Royal Blue seats in Kansas City, a red chair is the Buck O'NEIL legacy chair that honors people who have done outstanding things in the K.C. area. Buck was a star for the KC Monarchs in the old Negro League but his trail-blazing coaching job was with the Cubs
48. Hanukkah dinner staple: LATKE - One potato dish I have never had
51. Chowder morsel: CLAM.
52. Some kicks, so to speak: KEDS - I knew this was slang for shoes but put EEE'S first
55. It may precede and follow yes: SIR - As Emma Stone says here
58. "Finding Your Roots" airer: PBS
59. __ days: DOG - The DOG Days of summer are long gone here on the prairie
On a personal note, I want to show you the picture of my wife opening her birthday present last Sunday. It was a painting I had done of her kitty Lily. I finally got something right!
All comments welcome:
*Answer to 21 Down: w + (w + 6) + w + (w + 6) = 4w + 12 (Answer B)
RAFA? Au'au Channel? TROCHE?
ReplyDeleteETAGERE is a word I've seen, but didn't know what it meant (nor how to say it).
TAR, SFAIK, has nothing to do with black ice beyond being one of the several surfaces it can form on.
FROCKS are light dresses, not coats! There are such things as "frock coats", but as Mark Twain said, there is a great difference between lightning and a lightning bug!
I already poetized SLEW this week! How much you wanna bet the third sense comes up in a day or two?
As you tchotchke collectors are well aware
Moths have on occasion et tag hair.
This left tags bald
Perfectionists bawled
But kept them in the display ETAGERE!
The tardigrades in the PETRI DISH
Were suspected of being Islamish.
They declared a JIHAD
On bacteria bad,
And stepped on them till they went "squish!"
The lovers at the awards company
Were a "POWER" COUPLE, plain to see!
He gave her a DIAMOND RING
If she promised not to sing,
About TRADE SECRETS in their family tree!
4 l'icks -- {barely passed religion test, Awarded "best in class" from J.D.Power co., failed breakfast test, failed politics test.}
If you hang around in sewers
ReplyDeleteWhere the smell of METHANE skewers,
Detritus you PEER AT
Came from a toilet trap,
Even the PEE RAT is a SPEWER!
Is collusion when someone is IN CAHOOTS?
Like if they're throwing dirt, they'll give toots?
Buddies across foreign land,
Vlad, and Kim, and Erdogan --
But not from ones uttering INCA HOOTS!
Oops, miscounted.
ReplyDelete5 l'icks in two batches -- {A, barely passed religion test, Awarded "best in class" from J.D.Power co.},
{failed breakfast test, failed politics test.}
Good morning!
ReplyDeleteI was right on Debbie's wavelength this morning. IN CAHOOTS, ARMANIS, and BIKE ROUTE flowed trippingly (Is that a word? Thought it was, but otto-correct doesn't like it.) off my pen. Didn't recognize several of the names, but the perps were very kind today. Nice tour, as always, Husker. (Was that a paint-by-number cat? Or did you really create the whole shebang?)
Good morning. Well Debbie has presented a puzzle that has a more than usual toeholds and gimmes for a Saturday. OMAR, RAFAel Nadal, CLAM, FEUDS, PETRI DISH, BIKE ROUTE, UNCLE, METHANE, PARR, & SHOP- those filled immediately. Usually there's only two or three on Saturdays. And the three long fills in the middle were easy to fill after just a couple of letters.
ReplyDeleteWas the POWER COUPLE an ITEM before they got married?
The tchotchke and cranesbill items were unknowns but filled easily after just a couple of letters appeared. ETAGERE- looks like shelves to me also, just more expensive.
Hen HOUSE; check. Chicken COOP; check. HEN COOP. Booooo!
I still remember my first modem. 1200 BAUD and only $28.00/month to RENT from the phone company. Pre-internet days. And do you remember what you were charged for your first cell phone? I got a Motorala brick-phone for only $50/month for 150 minutes; no text or data, just talk. And you got hit with those Roaming Charges if it somehow used another provider's cell tower.
FIR, so it must have been an easy Saturday grid. But I did erase earl for LORD, ada for DDS, and coder for coded. If I only could read the clues as written!
ReplyDeleteSame DNK list as others.
Big Easy - I remember those early cell days. We lived in Dallas, and my wife had an office in Miami. To call her cell when she was there I had to 1) know she was in the Miami area, 2) call a specific 800 number for the South Florida area which gave me anther dial tone, then 3) punch in her cell number. GTE invented Follow Me Roaming, which eliminated the problem.
Many tech companies have more TRADE SECRETS than patents. The problem with patents is that the applications are open records and therefore available to competitors.
TAR and asphalt are different. I guess its close enough for a Saturday puzzle, but there are so many better clues. "Foot's beach pickup" if you wanted to be Saturday-obscure.
Thanks to Debbie for the sun puzzle, and to HG for the fine review. Even if its paint-by-numbers it is a fine looking cat.
Thank you, Debbie, and thank you, Husker Gary.
ReplyDeleteMost trouble was in the northwest, especially with getting OSCAR NOD. Tough clue.
I know of Chicken COOP or HEN house, and have personal experience with them from my youth, but never have heard HEN COOP before today. Makes OK sense, but I'd never heard it before.
The WEST in WEST WORLD was the crack in the dam. Then a try of RCA proved fruitful.
Still took a minute to parse OSCAR NOD even with the letters in place. D'OH !
Nailed RAFA as the "King of Clay"
ETAGERE - Very fancy ones with lots of fretwork and scrollwork commanded quite a bit of money in antiques circles. My dad bought a circa 1890s corner etagere at a shop in Yorkville, IL for almost $400. I thought he was nuts. He more than doubled his money on it a few weeks later in Central Texas.
"One needing Orders": WAITER - Loved this clue.
Also loved the "Windex unit" clue.
Produced some Java: CODED - Small nit, but OK, I guess. It made a nice clecho with the BREW clue.
Didn't know there was going to be a math test in the puzzle, and then Husker Gary puts another one in the review ! Got 'em both.
A very thoughtful gift, Husker Gary.
FIR. Awoke early and I have a new TBTimes subscription so I pattered* out to grab it and get an early start to sloggy Saturday.
ReplyDeleteAbout medium with great clueing such as OSCAR NOD which I couldn't grok with 8 solid perps.
God bless David ORTIZ. His clutch hitting reversed the "Curse"(see very late FLN post). But….
He and no one else was a Ted Williams*
I see none of Henry's wives were in fact a MARY. The NE was my last fills. CEL and SIZZLE got it done.
Oh no. FIW. I saw "Espionage" and SECRET and inked in STATE and never checked. The down perps wouldn't have been that difficult. U just forgot to recheck
What a way to ruin a weekend. I knew Java 20 years ago.
WC
* My first guess on 11d before ENTICE perped
**Some hack took the 1946 WS, '48 playoff game and deciding two last games of '49 and concluded that Ted could not hit in the clutch. Balderdash!!!
"The Open Window" is a great story, well worth reading if you've never had the pleasure to do so. It's easy to find on the web.
ReplyDeleteI had never heard "kicks" as slang for sneakers/shoes before, but there are lots of Google references, so I think I've just hung out with the wrong crowd!
Easy for a Saturday. FIR. I needed some perps to jog my memory, but only RAFA and this particular ONEIL were new to me. I did know NADAL, but not his nickname.
ReplyDeleteI used to have an etagere,an open shelf for displaying knickknacks, which we didn't take along when we downsized.
The ice part of black ice is almost perfectly clear. It gets its color form the surface it forms on, so the clue seems fair to me. The black comes from the tar or asphalt beneath the ice.LIU
I find all these kinds of frocks in novels. Google says:
1.an outer garment worn by monks and friars : HABIT
2: an outer garment worn chiefly by men:
a: a long loose mantle
b: a workman's outer shirt
especially : SMOCK FROCK
c: a woolen jersey worn especially by sailors
3: a woman's dress
IMO, in many instances (see def. #2)they are coat-like, as the clue says. The women's dresses called frocks are found in 20th and 21st century novels.
My mom used to say an extra large shapeless dress must have been made by Omar, the tentmaker, definitely not frocks.
HG, I dislike participant awards, too. I hear that after I stopped teaching my school gave both teams the same awards because the parents complained that siblings were upset if they were bested by a sib.
Seeing Mt. Fuji seems more common than seeing it spelled out as Mount Fuji.
I have loved potato pancakes since I was a kid. As an adult, I was surprised to find that latkes were quite similar.
ReplyDeleteC.C. has a puzzle "Standup Guys" over at USA Today.
Sorry for being unclear, I was speaking of field day participation awards. The entire school was split into two teams who competed with each other by grade level. Then the scores were combined.
ReplyDeleteHG's math question: Being an elementary school teacher I drew a rectangle and labeled the short sides W and the long sides W+6. The perimeter consisted of 4 W's and 2 6's, equaling 4W +12.
Good morning everyone.
ReplyDeleteTough one today but doable. Had to take a couple breaks. And got help with PARR. Felt HEN COOP was stilted but perps pointed to it. I liked seeing SPEWS and SIZZLE. Good job Debbie.
FROCK - - in the Navy means to authorize to wear the uniform and insignia of the next higher grade ( after selection and Senate confirmation but before actual promotion. Per this Instruction. (Seems kind of complicated.)
I did this one on my iPhone while waiting in my car for a 5K to start. I’ve done some coding and teaching in Java and JavaScript and drunk a lot of the liquid variety as well. No idea how I know TROCHE, but it came out of my fingers somehow. Fun solve and I did well in the 5K (for a geezer).
ReplyDeleteGood Morning:
ReplyDeleteI finished this in sub-30 minute time, but the NW corner required a lot of P and P due to the devious Swirls, Hen Coop, and Oscar Nod fill. Some of the cluing threw me off, as well, but that's an expected Saturday ploy. I spelled Rafa wrong (Rafe) and I always mix up Saki with Sati(e). Perps took care of the unknowns: Baud, West World, Ultra, and RCA, Geranium, Mt. Fuji, and Lanai, all as clued. Overall, though, I very much enjoyed the challenge of the solve.
Thanks, Debbie, for a fun but doable stumper and thanks, HG, for the bright and cheerful commentary and, as usual, the many stunning visuals and interesting links. I had no idea that painting was one of your many talents. What a thoughtful and meaningful gift you created for Joann's birthday; I'm sure she was thrilled and, no doubt, the Lovely Lily is purring up a storm at her likeness.
FLN
TTP and Anonymous T, thank you for your kind sentiments.
When will I ever learn to not start watching a movie after midnight and end up bleary-eyed but still up at 3:00 am? Last night, it was a rerun of "A Few Good Men", which I've seen several times but, somehow, couldn't resist watching again. I'm not a big Tom Cruise fan but he was outstanding in this role. It never occurred to me until now that Jack Nicolson had very little screen time in the movie's entirety, but, of course, the courtroom scene was the crux of the story and he stole the show right then and there.
Have a great day.
I struggled with this Saturday stumper but it was worth it. Thanks Debbie. My gimmes were METHANE (! ) , LATKE, and ETAGERE. SONOMA has to be because the wine valleys have 4 letters and Russian River was too long. I know OMAR Epps but The Tentmaker would have been an easier clue.
ReplyDeleteThe rest fell slowly. I liked the Java/Java cleco. I still don’t quite get 15 D WHO for “ Don’t know her”.
HG, thanks for leading us through. Love the kitty!
Owen, you certainly didn’t fail with me this morning! Love them all.
Musings
ReplyDelete-I appreciate the kind words about my write-up but I have to make one correction - I did not paint that picture of Lily as my words might have implied. When I said I “had it done”, I meant that it was painted by a lovely and talented lady in Cedar Bluffs (pop. 400) just across the Platte from us. Those of you who called it a “paint by number” effort if I did it, possess an accurate assessment of my artistic ability!
Hola!
ReplyDeleteCelebrate Black Friday?? That earned a chuckle. What's to celebrate about parting with one's money?
Thank you, Debbie Ellerin! This was fun and not too much of a challenge. With long spans across the grid it's fun to then connect the downs.
Did anyone see Alex Trebec working on the pronunciation of GENRE last night?
I always have at least one potted GERANIUM to remind me of my maternal grandmother who loved them and always had some growing. My paternal grandmother grew herbs and she could always be relied on for a good remedy to cure aches and pains.
I had no idea about Buck ONEIL but it wasn't hard to guess and we've seen David ORTIZ so that was familiar. CSO to my late stepfather, Jose ORTIZ.
Hand up for KING before LORD.
I would say that a DIAMOND RING is a commitment more than a symbolic gift. Sadly mine were all stolen by a family member who is a drug addict.
I've never seen WEST WORLD but here in Scottsdale we have a venue by that name.
Once when visiting my sister in Charlotte I purchased a beautiful bust entitled, La Mujer (the woman), then had to buy an ETAGERE to display it. The store shipped it to me and it arrived in a thousand pieces so they replaced it and it has sat in prominent display ever since then.
Thank you, Gary, for an ULTRA fine commentary with nice photo of Joann with her gift.
It is currently the best time of the year here so I shall go outside and take advantage of it.
Have a delightful day, everyone!
So Swamp, if you were strolling down the street with Heironymus Merkin and he said "hey, there goes Mercy Humpp", you would probably say "WHO?", meaning "I don't know her".
ReplyDeleteMany thanks for a fun Saturday puzzle, Debbie, and a delightful write-up, Husker Gary.
ReplyDeleteLoved seeing the chart of Henry VIII's wives, and photos of all those different kinds of SPEWS. I started out with HENCOOP, OMAR, and WHO, and then things got tougher. Wanted TUXEDOS for Fancy suits, but how would I ever know ARMANIS. Still, a very regular way to start a Saturday, and I wish everyone a great weekend.
HG @ 11:32 ~ So, you're no Painting Picasso. You're still a Romantic Romeo to Joann, a Doting Dad to Lily, and a Saturday Savior to us. So there! 😇
ReplyDeleteLucina @ 11:33 ~ What a terribly sad experience with a family member.
Jinx @ 11:40 ~ You are too funny!
Plenty of unknowns for me so I was pleasantly surprised to FIR.
ReplyDeleteNever heard of "The King of Clay" and never heard of "kicks" for KEDS. Hand up never heard of TROCHE or ETAGERE. Learning moments. Had DAME before LORD.
My first modem was 300 BAUD. I did not own a computer. I bought a broken used terminal and fixed it up. Got the modem in a surplus electronics shop. All so that I could communicate with the physics department computer from home back in the 1980s. Text only at 300 BAUD, obviously.
Here I am at a REPURPOSED RAILWAY in New York City.
It is called the High Line. Has anyone else been there or heard of it?
I don't drink JAVA or CODE in JAVA. I was amused by the latter clue, though.
Husker Gary thanks as always for the extensive amusing illustrations. I was quite impressed with your artistic talents. Sorry that the art was not actually yours. It is the thought that counts.
Been lurking the past two days,
ReplyDeletethe puzzles were too hard for me so I bit my lip...
(not a Thumper, just left speechless...)
But I do have some news!
After 4 months of nagging, I actually got a response
from The Star Ledger about the removal of Constructor Names.
They responded as follows (with an amendment...)
Mr. (CrossEyedDave),
Thank you for your email. We do appreciate readers letting us know about problems.
Unfortunately, this is how the puzzles have been coming in from the syndicate. We will look into why this is happening. (It will also be this way in this Sunday’s edition.)
Have a great weekend!
Tracy
(Hmm, maybe if I ask them details on how I can contact "This Syndicate,"
they might make me an offer I can't refuse...)
Learning moment: Etagere (must the Frawnch)
You will never believe how much they want for this monstrosity...
Oh, & would you believe that Google
also considers this an Etagere?
HG, That's a great picture of your cat!
I bet the painter made it from a photograph,
as a cat posing that long seems improbable.
I think it's great you are continuing a fine tradition of including family members in the Arts...
A neat Sat pzl from Ms. Ellerin, always a challenging constructor!
ReplyDeleteTa ~ DA!
I found the SE corner the last to succumb to my ministrations. Sorry to see there were no diagonals, as I imagine we might see some neat anagrams from this creator's hand.
Misty ~ I think one of the many advantages of a life in the theater is knowing all of King Henry's wives!
Owen ~ A wealth of poetry today! Our thanks! See my note on the "other site."
And here's another almost-spooner for you: The library book had been kept two weeks too long; it was over-due to re-new!
~ OMK
FIW [but those were just stray letters from earlier thoughts; I did pretty good for a Sat...]
ReplyDeleteHi All!
Fun Saturday puzzle, Debbie. However, I will pile-on @2d. Really? Otherwise some nice SIZZLE in the grid.
Fun expo, HG... LOL at your Pierres.
Hey, no shame in not painting it; Pop got Houska to paint Dee's (my lovely Stepmom) darling Annie (a Yorkshire). And Pop is a pretty good sketcher!
Neither Nuns, Priests, Friars, nor monks were needing Orders...
WOs: Doe (Jane, ONE, ea) wasn't "Don't know her", started a Brew at first Java (TTP, as a tech, I agree re: nit), EARNed, Byte b/f BAUD.
ESPs: ETAGERE (can't be right, but perps are solid-ISH -- really Swamp? Gimme?), SAKI (wanted tAKI). Many others, I'm sure. //Misty, I had the same trouble w/ wanting TUXEDOS, I think ARMANI was 5/6 perps.
Fav: I want to go w/ DOG b/c that opened up the SE but, well, go ask ALICE.
{A, B, A, B+, B+ //all fun!}
FLN - WC: I know I got IRn wrong now. Point being: Upon solving, it was there and I was thinking, "solid perps; TTP will tell me what IRn means."
TTP's expo told me, "Moron!, It's IRS/SEEDY" in very kind words/expo.
TRADE SECRET - a buddy of mine was at Coke when Pepsi contacted them re: a rogue employee.
I'll echo IM - Jinx, yous funny; Lucina - that's awful!
BigE - 1200 bps? What year? I first used a 300bps modem (Hi Picard!) on an Apple ][e back in the '80s. After watching War Games, buddy and I wrote a not-as-fancy demon-dialer to find other computers in our area. In SPI, there were banks, railroad switches, and the State of Ill computers. Nothing fun like NORAD.
Cheers, -T
I liked this puzzle except for HENCOOP. I got Green Painted for suggesting FAMILY SEDAN as an answer a few years ago, on the basis that people really say FAMILY CAR. As Gary so aptly said, "Constructors hafta to do what constructors hafta do." I would add, "Sometimes it's rejected and sometimes it's accepted."
ReplyDeleteIMO Java should be relegated to the scrap heap as was Adobe Flash, for pretty much the same reasons.
Speaking of Java, it does suddenly make me wonder how Larry Ellison is doing. Okay, that thought has passed.
Yep, I have used those 300 and 1200 BAUD modems and have typed on those 300 BAUD teletypes. It used to be that 57,000 BAUD was a big deal. My old Hayes modem is still in the garage somewhere. (Note to self: get rid of all our old e-waste!)
CED, I'm glad you finally got a response from The Star Ledger, however unsatisfactory it may be.
Good wishes to you all.
Jinx, once again you have rescued me. I sorta maybe understand now!
ReplyDeleteI am watching LSU beat up on Ole Miss... so far. Coach Oeaux has had such a painful journey . His gravelly voice and Cajun speech earn him no respect nationally. He certainly cuts no impressive figure. He’s built like a bulldog...maybe a fire plug? And he revels in that persona! And getting outright fired by Ole Miss was just plain mean. And the national sports commentators could memorize how to pronounce his name. That’s also mean.
Okay, I’ll go back under my rock....
I do have a (calm) story about critter painting. When my grandson asked for a painting of a bulldog, his Mississippi State mascot, I had to admit I’d never really looked at a bulldog. So I went online and downloaded a bulldog picture. One!
ReplyDeleteI painted the picture. Grandson was pleased. And the floodgates opened on the internet! I was bombarded with pictures of bulldogs. Baby bulldogs, old bulldogs, mean bulldogs.
I learned a lot about life online!!
I just left Sam's. On the way out I mentioned in passing to the Security girl how I'd inked STATE Secrets instead of TRADE. Second or third time I'd talked about it. Complete stranger (s).
ReplyDeleteIt's all y'all's fault. I wanted to get into CC and crow about my Saturday FIR.
Or… Something about the hasty cock and the HEN COOP*.
Jayce. Are you saying Apps aren't CODED in Java these days. I sorta kicked myself for not getting into the App-writing business in the late nineties. The Java manual made OED look like a pamphlet. -T, feel free to comment.
FLN, sometimes clues/answers don't get covered and I certainly can't recall which is which ten minutes later.
I'll solve the J words in the morning on line then get to Winn Dixie at noon and have no clue . Also… Speaking of "Dummies"... Is there a Jinx for dummies re. The Hieronymus joke?
WC
Also, re. 399BAUD... I remember doing support at DEC circa 1979. IT had morphed overnight from 80 char to terminals with the need for typing accuracy disappearing overnight too.
. WC
* I'm surprised Owen didn't do something with the COOO with ERATO running wild today.
With the HEN COOP, I meant
DeleteFor all the fuss over COOP versus HOUSE, I have to say that from my perspective as a non-farmer, HEN COOP was the first fill I had today. Seemed natural to me.
ReplyDeleteSorry. But...
wotthehell wotthehell
~ OMK
I thought this place was a forum for Word Nerds, not Tech Geeks! You guys are killing me! This might not be my outlet.
ReplyDeleteWC, I frequently find myself talking to random folks about something or other that reminded me of a recent crossword clue. As you can imagine I'm super popular with the random folks!
Peas (pronounced like peace!)
I was just about to post when I saw LLsM post.
ReplyDeleteSorry, LucyLoo'sMom, my post gets techie :-)
BTW, there's a huge cross intersect between tech-nerds and word-nerds. DW has a PhD in English. During grad school, one afternoon, after class, she was telling me about Noam Chomsky's hierarchy of language; I was flabbergasted when I lernt he was the same Chomsky I was studying in automata (a computer science class).
Swamp - Welcome to the Googleverse. I clicked one thing from the blog a month ago and I still get ads for 3-D DOG t-shirts!
CED - LOL 'the syndicate.' Make an offer to Tribune Content Service (they distribute the puzzle according to my paper) they can't refuse. //I also liked you dropping Harvey into the portrait mix :-)
WC - I don't regret not taking up Java after a few weeks putzin' with it. To me it was trying to be C++ with the jumble of [overlapping overloaded polymorphic] libraries but without the compiling fuss. 'Write once run anywhere' was the pie-sky promise that really never panned out. As the Web morphed, so did it becoming a monstrosity of 'platform' like .NET*. Those are good for professional developers (like my buddies are), but I'm a hacker; I need quick and dirty. C was fine, perl my hammer-for-every-nail, and I'm finding Python to be quite capable.**
Speaking of hackers... I was going down memory lane chasing War Games links. See, War Games is why I do what I do today. Short Circuit got me into robotics and AI (BSEE, MSCS, eh?) but I got disillusioned and resorted to (counter)hacking which turned into a fun career. Anyways, I'm not the only one! as #16, DefCon shows in 16 things you didn't know about War Games.
Cheers, -T
*Jayce - Gosling at Sun Microsystems 'invented' Java. Rumor was, Oracle bought Sun just for Java. Seems true considering I can't get me a Sparc system nowadays....
**Spacing still annoys me. Tabs ≠ space in mandatory indentation - random errors occur if you cut-n-paste from notepad to vi, for example.
Hey, D4. Haven't heard from you since the 11th? Everything still good?
ReplyDeleteThinking of you and Carol. -T