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Nov 20, 2023

Monday November 20, 2023 Tom Locke

  

Hello Cornerites!

sumdaze here. Today's theme is: 

The answer to each starred clue is a two-word phrase where both the first word and the second word are types of SUITS. Let's take a look:

16 Across. *Result of a hockey penalty, often: POWER PLAY.  
a POWER SUIT and a PLAYSUIT

23 Across. *Field of expertise for corporate attorneys: BUSINESS LAW.  
a BUSINESS SUIT and a LAWSUIT
("LAWSUIT" was the only one I did not relate to clothing.)

32 Across. *Primate passenger on a rocket ship: SPACE MONKEY.  
a SPACE SUIT and a MONKEY SUIT (nickname for a tuxedo)

48 Across. *Good find for a traveler on a budget: CHEAP FLIGHT.  
CHEAP SUIT and Maverick in his FLIGHT SUIT (See 5-D.)

And the reveal:
56. Piece of carry-on luggage, and what the answer to each starred clue literally is: TWO-SUITER.
I was unfamiliar with this term for a garment bag that is sized to fit two suits, but that did not prevent a swimmingly FIR.  example

It is always impressive when a constructor can make both words work. To quote Husker Gary from two weeks ago, "Having half of a phrase in the gimmick is fun but it is doubly fun when both words are in it!"
Thanks for the double fun, Tom!

Across:
1. Repair, as torn clothes: MEND.

5. Kite dangler: TAIL.

9. Garments with underwires: BRAS.

13. Protected, at sea: ALEE.  An island's windward side faces the prevailing (or 'trade') winds; whereas, the island's LEEward side faces away from the wind, sheltered from prevailing winds by hills and mountains.
This is a good fit for one of my favorite Hawaiian songs. (No, not the guava jelly belly one again!)  
Island Style by John Cruz (1996)

14. Spanish "other": OTRA.  no hints today as to feminine "a" or masculine "o"

15. Georgia's state fruit: PEACH.  

18. 62-Across contributor: RATER.   and   
62. Restaurant review app: YELP.

19. Heavy shoe: BROGAN.  learning moment  The Met website

20. Softhearted: GENTLE.

21. Moody music genre: EMO.

25. One part in a hundred: PERCENT.  From dictionary.com:  PERCENT is from the Latin adverbial phrase per centum meaning "by the hundred". The Latin phrase entered English in the 16th century. Later, it was abbreviated per cent. with the final period. Eventually, the period was dropped and the two parts merged to produce the modern one-word form PERCENT.  

27. DDE's WWII command: ETO.  Dwight David Eisenhower was a five-star general in the U.S. Army and the 34th President of the United States. During World War II, he commanded the European Theater of Operations.  "Army Years" article from his presidential library

28. Curvy letter: ESS.

29. Tolstoy's "__ Karenina": ANNA.

30. Like some charity golf tourneys: PRO-AM.  My friend works in radio advertising so she often has an extra ticket for me to go with her to watch the PROfessionals and AMateurs team up at Pebble Beach. Last February, we saw Bill Murray tee off at the 14th hole.  

37. Mary, Queen of __: SCOTS.  her story through art
Mary, Queen of Scots
early 17th C

38. Jump: LEAP.  Remember to look first!

41. Mop (up), as gravy: SOP.   and   
61 Across. Serve a meal to: FEED.   and   39 Down. Had a meal: ATE.
Thanksgiving is just 3 days away!  ๐Ÿฆƒ

44. Aunt, in Spanish: TIA.

45. Ethyl __: nail polish remover option: ACETATE.  I found this on the Sally Beauty Supply website:  Acetone is a powerful solvent that removes nail polish quickly and easily, but can be drying to the cuticles. Non-acetone polish removers contain ETHYL ACETATE or methyl ethyl keytone as their active ingredient. They are gentler on skin and were developed for use with nail extensions.
Turns out, I have some in my bathroom.

51. 40-Down doc: VET.   and   40 Down. Furry friend: PET.  
This is my faithful sidekick, Meadow. She is a 63 lb. (28.6 kilo), almost-11-years-old, Catahoula/Lab mix.

52. Starlike flowers: ASTERS.  

53. Italian playhouse: TEATRO.  theater / theatre

55. Sip slowly: NURSE.

59. Scout unit: TROOP.  
Do we have any Wes Anderson fans on The Corner?
Moonrise Kingdom (2012) Edward Norton is Scout Master Ward. (2:15 min.)
P.S.:  Bill Murray was in this movie, too.

60. Dorothy and Toto creator L. Frank __: BAUM.  

63. Retired fliers: Abbr.: SSTS.  SuperSonic Transport. They land in XWDs quite often.

64. Sounds of disapproval: TSKS.  


Down:
1. Helpful inset in some video games: MAP.

2. "Xanadu" band, familiarly: ELO.

3. Nursery arrivals: NEWBORNS.

4. Antelope's playmate on the range, in song: DEER.  Home, home on the range...  ๐… ๐… ๐… 

5. Tom Cruise film with a "Maverick" sequel: TOP GUN.  Here's the official trailer to the sequel:  

6. "About time!": AT LAST.

7. Tehran inhabitant: IRANI.

8. Sam Smith's "__ Me Down": LAY.  
Sam was the answer to yesterday's 90-A. Today's song was released in 2014. 

9. Vegan protein source: BEANS.

10. Worrisome engine sound: RATTLE.  Rational RATERS realize road RATTLES R really rotten.

11. High-speed Amtrak trains: ACELAS.

12. Molelike mammals: SHREWS.  Here is a PBS video about the tiny water SHREW. The underwater footage is amazing!  
They are the smallest diving mammal on Earth.  (3:13 min.)

15. Laundry cycle for a tough stain: PRESOAK.

17. Attire for a lazy Saturday: ROBE.

20. Board, as a bus: GET ON.  According to Paul Simon, it's HOP ON the bus, Gus.  
50 Ways to Leave Your Lover (1975)

21. Clean water org.: EPA.  The Environmental Protection Agency was created on December 2, 1970, by President Nixon to protect human health and the environment.

22. Fellows: MEN.

24. Wolfe of fiction: NERO.

26. Baseball hats: CAPS.

30. Some govt. leaders: PMS.  "Government" is abbreviated, so is Prime MinisterS.

31. Soften, as butter: MELT.

33. Class for some HS juniors: ACT PREP.  "High school" is abbreviated so is a PREParation test to take the American College Testing exam, an admissions test used by some colleges.

34. Hairstyles: COIFS.

35. Etc. kin: ET AL.  

36. Hands raised in support, say: YEA VOTES.  Raise your hand if you got this one right.
45-A changed my YEs to YEA.

41. Meager: SCANTY.

42. "Yeah, I totally believe you": OH, SURE.

43. Gas, to a Brit: PETROL.

45. Get too old: AGE OUT.  Def.:  to become ineligible or irrelevant by virtue of physical age.
Example:  The program is designed for young adults and provides support until they AGE OUT at 21.
Conversely, does anyone ever say "age in"?

46. Deep divides: CHASMS.  

47. "__, Brute?": ET TU.

49. "The Fox and the Crow" storyteller: AESOP.

50. "__ a dark and stormy night ... ": IT WAS.
Since 1982 the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest has challenged participants to write an atrocious opening sentence to the worst novel never written. (Yes, "never" -- not a typo.) This whimsical literary competition honors Sir Edward George Bulwer-Lytton, whose 1830 novel, Paul Clifford, begins with "It was a dark and stormy night." Click here to read the 2023 Grand Prize winner.

54. Falling-out between friends: RIFT.  I hope you can 1-A the friendship.

56. TNT sister station: TBS.  Ted Turner's offspring

57. High-pitched cry: EEK.  

58. GPS lines: RDS.  A Global Positioning System shows RoaDS.
We were early adopters. DH brought one home in 2005. I complained that it took too long to load and was unnecessary for driving around a city I already knew.  Later that year, we drove cross-country and I used it to take me to the Patagonia Outlet in Utah. I became a believer!

Here is the grid:

I will leave you with one more:  Daring winter feat:  SNOW JUMP
a SNOW SUIT and a JUMP SUIT
Have a great week, everyone!

34 comments:

  1. I didn’t have too much trouble with this puzzle, which was really a “gimme,” except perhaps for the Italian word. Any other words, it was a typical Monday “walk in the park.” FIR, so I’m happy.

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  2. Sorry, that should be “In other words,” but I bet you already knew that.

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  3. Good morning!

    Yea, verily, d-o also had to correct his YES answer. Never noticed the theme on the way through the grid. Also failed to read the full reveal clue. [Sigh] TEATRO is the name of a Willie Nelson album. This one was a nice romp. Thanx, Tom. Enjoyed your tour, sumdaze. (Meadow looks like a nice, mellow buddy.)

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  4. Thank you Tom Locke for a quite easy and doable Monday puzzle … that was a romp and a very red enjoyable at that….

    Thank you Sumdaze for s lovely blog that was a pleasure to go through ( and read, as well …) I loved the links and would have gone thru All of Them
    … except that it is just past seven and my DW sleeping next to me will bop me on The head if I make any noise snd wake her up …. Thank you anyway, really ….

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  5. FIR, but erased YEs VOTES and TWASS (I blame decaf.)

    Today is:
    WORLD CHILDREN'S DAY / NATIONAL CHILD'S DAY (let’s not kid around about this one)
    NATIONAL ABSURDITY DAY (my PhD-in-organic-chemistry sister asked me “why in the world would anyone want a computer in their home?” when I bought my first one circa 1978)
    NATIONAL PEANUT BUTTER FUDGE DAY (should it be made with creamy or crunchy PB?)

    Getaway day, but first we have DW's oncology appointment at 8:15.

    T^hanks to Tom for the fun, Monday-level puzzle, and to sumdaze for the fine review. BTW - sailors pronounce 'windward' as 'winnard' and 'leeward' as 'looard.' Tell your beautiful Meadow that Zoั‘ says arf.

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  6. Took 4:32 today for me to see the tailor.

    Seemed like a nice themeless Monday to me.

    I didn't know "brogan" or "scanty" (I've only heard "scant"), and I only knew the nail polish remover was acet-something.

    Clever theme, once sumdaze explained it.

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  7. FIR. I found this to have a little bite to it for a Monday.
    I wasn't familiar with teatro and as a result found the SE somewhat difficult to finish. Especially since I'd never heard of a two suiter.

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  8. Excellent puzzle; I like it when both parts of a phrase are used. It takes a great deal of searching to find words in phrases that can then be phrased with that reveal word. Thanks to Tom Locke and Sumdaze. Also may she finally rest in peace for all the love, charity and beauty she gave to the world. A gem in a long line of First Ladies, Rosalynn Carter.

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  9. Good Morning:

    This was a clever and nicely executed theme which was well-hidden until the reveal. Yay! No unknowns and only two w/os, Otro/Otra and Sparse/Scanty. I, like SS, am only aware of Scant. The Vet/Pet cross was cute.

    Thanks, Tom, for a smooth start to the week and thanks, sumdaze, for the excellent overview and commentary. I especially enjoyed the spot-on photos of the themer suits. Loved the "Tsk" group and the Sarchasm but photo of the day was the mellow-looking Meadow!

    Have a great day.

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  10. WEES about the ease, the YEs/YEA choice, and SCANTY. I however was stumped by the reveal. I’m not familiar with a TWO SUITER term.

    Sumdaze thanks for the link to the novel starts. They are really imaginative and funny.

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  11. Musings
    -Yes, I do like the double themers! Another wet paper made me very fast online solver.
    -Ya gotta love this water tower in Gaffney, GA featured in House Of Cards
    -In our town, snarky comments on FaceBook have replaced Yelp
    -Ike had to keep both military and political leaders appeased
    -Baum’s Wizard Of Oz was actually a political allegory
    -Nixon did many progressive things like creating the EPA during his presidency but his paranoia destroyed him
    -I have definitely AGED OUT of running marathons. Okay, I never started but still…
    -Snoopy’s famous opening in Peanuts: “It was a dark and stormy night. Suddenly, a shot rang out! A door slammed. The maid screamed. Suddenly, a pirate ship appeared on the horizon! While millions of people were starving, the king lived in luxury. Meanwhile, on a small farm in Kansas, a boy was growing up.”
    -Loved your write-up and furry friend, Renee!

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  12. Good Morning! I had no idea what the theme was about until the AHA moment when I saw the picture of the crab in the shell. Then I saw it !! Very good!!

    A little bit of a crunch at the top until I got into it, then the puzzle flowed smoothly, but alas, FIW. The unknown TEATRO entered as TEATtO gave me tIFT instead of RIFT.I thought “tift” was a very plausible fill, so I moved along. Very unkind, Tom, but all-in-all, a fun puzzle.

    A nit today. To SOFTEN butter is to bring it to room temperature. To melt it is another separate step. Not the same thing, and if your recipe says “soften” and you put melted butter in your cookie recipe, you won’t like the result.

    ๐Ÿฅฐ ๐ŸฅฐYour picture of Meadow ๐Ÿฅฐ ๐Ÿฅฐ. Thanks, sumdaze. Loved your telling about attending the Pebble Beach tourney. And the link to the worst opening lines is priceless. I am in awe of the creative mind.

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  13. Hola!

    A good Monday to you all!

    By coincidence our friend who researches our trip information yesterday e-mailed us the CHEAP FLIGHTs she found for our trip to Oakland in February. We go every year to celebrate our friend, Claire's, birthday. She will be 93 but she has not AGED OUT of her many activities including organizing and running the small library, writing a newsletter for the Carmel Symphony, etc, etc. Have I ever mentioned she is brilliant and two PHD degrees?

    TEATRO is also Spanish.

    I no longer have a PET but have in the past had two dogs, a snake (my daughter's), a cat, a hamster and a goldfish.

    Have a wonderful day, everyone! Every day is a gift!

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  14. Thank You, Tom Locke, and thank you, sumdaze. A fun puzzle to start the week. I couldn't suss a relationship of the theme answers until the reveal. Nice! Themes are the best part of crossword puzzles, especially when they are clever.

    Meadow looks like a friendly sidekick. I also liked your alliteration, "Rational RATERS realize road RATTLES R really rotten."

    I read all of the 2023 Bulwer-Lytton contest entries in the link. That was fun. Not sure if I could make it through each of the previous years submissions.

    The strong odors of nail polish remover gives me an immediate and intense headache. I used to change cars on the commuter train if someone started cleaning their nails.

    SNL did a PBS Masters of the Pen skit exploring authors of iconic books on Saturday night. The subject of the skit was none other than L. Frank BAUM. It was about a newly found old film of him, possibly as he was getting the idea for Wizard of Oz. It was ok funny, but once again, Weekend Update was funnier. I like how Collin Jost and Michael Che prank each other by writing some of each other's headlines.

    FLN, thank you, Canadian Eh for the explanation about Torontonians / Tron-tonians. ;>)

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  15. What a fun way to start the week! Got an easy FIR, needing WiteOut only on YES/YEA. The theme? Try as I might, I just could not see it until Sumdaze 'Splained it. At which time I was buried in the avalanch of V-8 cans. The last thing I AGED INTO was probably Medicare a decade ago. JAYCE FLN: Your comparison of crossWORD v. crossNAME puzzles was truly on the mark! You echoed my feelings to a T! (Not a -T) Constructors and editors, please take note!

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  16. Hi All!

    Thanks, Tom, for the fine Monday puzzle to kick-off Thanksgiving week.

    Thank you, Sumdaze, for the fun review and cute puppy-pic.
    I'm a huge fan Wes Anderson. Have you seen Asteroid City yet?

    WOs: N/A
    ESPs: BROGAN, ANNA, THEATRO, SCANTY
    BAUM would have been another but it was just on SNL //I see TTP beat me to it -- link.

    Fav: CHASM - just 'cuz what Sumdaze did with it ;-)

    Back to work - thought it is very quite this week with >50% of the office on vacation.

    Cheers, -T

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  17. This was a nice Monday pushover. The few Proper Names were fairly well known.

    Inkovers: neonates/NEWBORNS,

    Thought it said “Kite danger” and put tree ๐Ÿคจ

    Contrary Mary Queen of SCOTS (not of “the” Scots” or of “Scotland”) how did her garden grow: with “cockle shells” (she liked seafood) and “silver bells” (she liked jewelry) and “pretty maids all in a row“ (her ladies-in-waiting)

    Cool theme, two types of SUIT per answer. Never heard of a carry-on called a TWOSUITER.. and… what’s a SLAW SUIT? (oops never mind)…ACTPREP must be like the CW PSAT. L Frank BAUM was from Chittinango NY a few miles west of here. There’s a Yellow Brick Road down Main Street which will lead you to an eponymous Casino run by the Oneida Nation.

    If yer “pet” goldfish is “furry” maybe it met its maker a few days ago ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

    Have been to the “TEATRO della Scala” in Milan.

    Age….GETON
    Wide RIFT…. CHASM
    Aloe ET AL….. BAUM
    Gulps…. COIFS
    Appraiser of a misplaced religious object: “______ ….of the Lost Ark” RATER

    Anon @ 8:35 AM ditto on Rosalynn Carter. A generous soft spoken fine lady.


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  18. I'd say this puzzle SUITS me just fine but that's too corny. I don't time myself but it had to take less than 10 minutes to FIR. LAY as the only unknown.

    ET AL v ETC- who cares
    IRANI in crosssword land. Iranians to everybody else.

    MEK or 'methyl ethyl keytone' can be used to unstick some of the toughest glues.

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  19. I have not managed to FIR in 8 minutes in YEARS, until today. Just zipped right through it. DNK = BROGAN, but it perped easy. Never saw the theme (again!) but I didn’t look, I was just so proud of myself for finishing the CW so quickly. Thanx TL for the ego boosting CW. Thanx too to Sumdaze for the fine write-up. I was in to see the eye doc again today. Inflammation is receding, vision now at 20/25. I see him again next Monday. After so many years of wearing glasses, it is taking some time to get used to NOT wearing glasses. I still need them to read, but that’s O.K.

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  20. Delightful Monday puzzle, many thanks, Tom. And thank you too for your always neat commentary, Sumdaze--much appreciated.

    I liked how this puzzle gave us a chance to have a GENTLE visit to a garden with PEACH trees and ASTERS in bloom, and a chance to FEED a PET DEER that wouldn't need a VET for a long time. Lovely morning visit--a pleasure!

    Have a great week coming up, everybody.

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  21. I appreciate the kinds words about Meadow.

    RosE@9:51. I thought the same thing about butter. Bakers know that, recipe-wise, "softened" and "melted" are very different. Also, I can see how tIFT would seem reasonable.

    -T@11:50. No, I have not yet seen Astroid City but I plan to. Did you like it? I see he has his usual assortment of favorite actors. (Speaking of recommendations, a while back you mentioned Steve Martin's graphic novel. I picked it up from the library and am looking forward to starting it today. I read Born Standing Up years ago.)

    unclefred@12:48. Thanks for the update on your eye surgery. I'm glad everything is going well.

    Misty@1:02. It was nice to read one of your lovely stories again this morning.

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  22. Marvellous Monday. Thanks for the fun, Tom and sumdaze (lovely photo of Meadow).
    I FIRed in good time and saw the TWO SUITER theme.

    Hand up for Yes before YEA, and Sparse before SCANTY.
    Some Canadian disadvantage with TBS, ACT PREP, but then we did have a PM.
    I wanted Brogues (British origin), but they are dress shoes. BROGANS were unknown to me, but I think we call them hiking or work boots.

    I noted EMO, ELO and ETO.
    Nice catch, sumdaze of MEND and RIFT.

    See my comments FLN re our discussion re PEACHes.
    “ Sumdaze, d’otto, Michael etc re the peach pie discussion - I don’t have a peach tree in my back yard, but a 5 minute drive can bring me to a whole orchard of Niagara peaches (equal or better than your famed Georgia peaches - which leads me to an aside in which I rant about Ontario born and raised Justin Bieber singing about Georgia peaches!). We had beautiful weather this summer with good rains, and the peaches were large, juicy and tasty. I will not eat another peach until next summer’s crop ripens, except for the local peaches in my fruit cellar that I canned.”

    Wishing you all a great day.

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  23. CanadianEh!@1:25. I did see your comment about the delicious peaches. It was one of those crossword coincidences that we were chatting about PEACH pies over the weekend and PEACH was in today's puzzle.
    = )

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  24. I very much liked this puzzle, sumdaze's write-up, and all your comments. This dog guy liked seeing the photo of Meadow.

    When I was in the USAF back in the 1960's, we were issued BROGANS to wear with our fatigues and regular "dress" shoes to be worn with all the other uniforms (khakis and blues).

    I have used both Acetone and MEK many times in my work. It was that ACETATE that required changing YES VOTES to YEA VOTES.

    "As I crouched in the back alley, pulling the brim of my Fedora down in a vain attempt to keep the sleeting rain from my face while simultaneously attempting to keep an eye on the sole illuminated window of the hotel behind which was the woman whom I was surveilling, I remembered how I thought, when she first came into my office, that I should never have taken the case."

    Congratulations keeping up with the eyedrops, unclefred.

    I'm glad you read what I wrote yesterday, Charlie Echo.

    Good wishes to you all.

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  25. sumdaze - YEA, I enjoyed Asteroid City very much even though, like much of Wes's work, I was going "Wha???" 1/2 the time.

    Jayce - given your electronics background, gotsta ask... What'd you do for USAF?
    //I ask 'cuz my boss at DOD (USAF) laid cable off the sides of mountains in Alaska. He was the coolest boss ever (except that time he made me watch his knee surgery). He gave me NIST's document on killing GOSIP for my take! (I was just a lowly GS9!)

    The Rest of The Story - I wrote a memo saying TCP/IP already interconnects everything with public protocols and GOSIP was a standard (written by committees upon committees) that would never be fully implemented.
    I like to think I helped killed GOSIP ;-)

    Cheers, -T

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  26. Jayce@2:40. Love the opening line! Bulwer-Lytten worthy, for sure!

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  27. Anonymous T, in the USAF I worked in intelligence. The organization was called the USAFSS, United States Air Force Security Service.

    sumdaze, thanks!

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  28. Hand up I am impressed with a theme like this where both theme words have to match. Hand up BROGAN unknown. Fabrics and clothing items are almost as bad as sports for me. Hand up YES before YEA.

    Can you figure out which one is the MEN's room in this bizarre sign at our Santa Barbara Mission?

    TBS was originally the Tech Broadcasting System at MIT. The rights were sold to Turner at an absurdly low price.

    From Yesterday:
    sumdaze, Vidwan Glad you enjoyed my ASTRONOMY TEACHER yearbook photo. He was my TEACHER in Maryland, but he actually went to school here at UC Santa Barbara before it was called UC Santa Barbara. He came to visit me here and I took him to see his old campus.

    Yes, I was not so fashionable back then! I see my friends had shirts that were more of my current style. As for where we were looking, Dan was looking down into the eyepiece, same as my friend Julie in the other photo. And Paul and I must have been talking about something important.

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  29. Picard, the lady's is on the right and the mens on the left. Looks fine to me, although I can see how someone could strain the interpretation to look like circles instead of arrows. But the silhouettes are also on the appropriate side. (I have a great picture somewhere of a Ford's Garage men's room exit door that was designed to make guys think they had selected the wrong one. Guess that isn't a big deal anymore. I'll look tomorrow to see if I have that here in my diesel powered house.)

    H. Gary, I know that water tower! There is a touristy store nearby on an access road that runs along I-85 southbound. They feature peach jam and the like. I visit Gaffney every fall for Freightliner factory service on my RV. All Freightliner RV chassis are made there, and their service is top-notch. They even have three days of "Camp Freightliner" to teach 4-wheelers some of what they need to know about the workings of their Freightliner-based diesel pushers.

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  30. Sum (of these) daze is in charge today, guiding us through this Locke PZL....

    Clever to think of so many SUITS.

    For 18A, I first had EATERS.
    Seems to me you don't qualify as RATERS unless you are first among the establishment's EATERS.

    My wife is a great fan of Dancing with the Stars. I imagine the show's sub-title could well be PRO AM.
    ~ OMK
    ____________
    DR:
    Three diaagonals - far side.
    Unfortunately, the center line has a paucity of vowels, and the flanking diagonals are vowel-overripe.
    Not to be entirely discouraged, I turn to Word Unscrambler to do its best job on the center line.
    It delivers a one-word anagram (10 of 15) that refers to the (mainly fruitless) attempt to blend competing religions or systems of thought into a single school, or...

    "SYNCRETISM"!
    --and so we have our Word for the Day.

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  31. Nice, easy and enjoyable as are most Monday crosswords. However, I really wish you had used the word "Animal" instead of "Primate" for 32 across. Monkeys are not primates.

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  32. Sorry. You're right. They are primates.

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  33. Agreed. Women’s is on the right.

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  34. Jayce @4:19: I was ASA, and I worked with sone NAVSECGRU guys ... all for 'Daddy' DIRNSA. My enlistment ended, and I fled as far from Ft. Meade as possible.

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