Theme: Way back when ...
Constructor/Professor of Psychology Michael B. Berg remembers way back when he was working crossword puzzles to pass time during the pandemic, and a friend suggested he make his own. Since then, his puzzles have appeared in the Boston Globe, the New York Times, and most importantly, the Los Angeles Times, where I believe this is his second appearance. Take us back in memory, Michael!
The theme answers appear symmetrically in rows Across. The theme clues and answers are:
19. Old school?: BOSTON LATIN. The Boston Latin School is a public school in Boston, Massachusetts. It was established on April 23, 1635, making it the oldest existing school in the United States.
29. Old story?: GILGAMESH. Incredible that we had this in the puzzle last Sunday. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, our hero defeats gods and monsters. Witnessing the death of a friend, Gilgamesh seeks immortality, only to realize it is unattainable.
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| Gilgamesh |
39. Old timer?: SUNDIAL. Want to visit the largest sundial in the Western hemisphere? That title is disputed, but one contender is in the center of Carefree, Arizona, where my mom lives. Sundials are amazing to modern folks who were raised to rely on electric clocks.
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| Carefree sundial |
48. Old guard?: BEEFEATER.
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| Tower of London guards AKA Beefeaters |
57. Old flame?: BURNING BUSH. We were just telling the story of the Exodus from Egypt at Passover. The burning bush is where Moses got the call.
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| Moses and the burning bush |
But enough living in the past! Let's look at the rest of the clues and answers.
Across:
1. Beehive, for one: COIF. When I was growing up, older girls and young women sported beehive hairdos. "Coif" is short for "coiffure," a word for hairdo borrowed from French.
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| These updos from the 1960s look like beehives on the wearers' heads. |
5. Pussy foot: PAW.
8. Contractor's bid: QUOTE.
13. Antarctic swimmer: ORCA.
14. "Present!": HERE. Accepted responses to roll call in class.
15. Called balls and strikes: UMPED. Here, UMP is a verb meaning to perform the duties of an umpire, and because the clue is in the past tense, so is UMPED.
16. "__ waiting long?": BEEN. Something you might say when you've agreed to meet someone and find that they've arrived before you.
17. Years and years: AGES.
18. "That is ... ": I MEAN.
19. [Theme clue]
22. Intelligence org. founded by Truman: NSA. President Harry Truman established the National Security Agency in 1952. Almost a month ago, another President whose name also starts with T-r-u-m fired the Director of the NSA, General Timothy Haugh.
23. Oldest part of Notre-Dame de Paris: APSE. Our most frequently appearing church section.
24. Oscar nods, briefly: NOMS. I could not find many examples of NOMS for nominations.
8. Contractor's bid: QUOTE.
13. Antarctic swimmer: ORCA.
14. "Present!": HERE. Accepted responses to roll call in class.
15. Called balls and strikes: UMPED. Here, UMP is a verb meaning to perform the duties of an umpire, and because the clue is in the past tense, so is UMPED.
16. "__ waiting long?": BEEN. Something you might say when you've agreed to meet someone and find that they've arrived before you.
17. Years and years: AGES.
18. "That is ... ": I MEAN.
19. [Theme clue]
22. Intelligence org. founded by Truman: NSA. President Harry Truman established the National Security Agency in 1952. Almost a month ago, another President whose name also starts with T-r-u-m fired the Director of the NSA, General Timothy Haugh.
23. Oldest part of Notre-Dame de Paris: APSE. Our most frequently appearing church section.
24. Oscar nods, briefly: NOMS. I could not find many examples of NOMS for nominations.
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| You'll have to settle for the Grammys. |
26. Break down, as a sentence: PARSE.
29. [Theme clue]
34. __ of London: LLOYDS. Lloyd's of London is not an insurance company; rather, Lloyd's is a corporate body governed by the Lloyd's Act of 1871 and subsequent Acts of Parliament. It operates as a marketplace within which financial backers come together to pool and spread risk.
36. Word in some alumna updates: NÉE. Née is French for "born." He was born = Il est né. She was born = Elle est née. We tend to see née referring to the ladies because they often change their names. Sally Jones née Smith is Mrs. Jones now, but was born Sally Smith. An alumna is a female graduate, and having née in an update might help you recognize an old classmate.
29. [Theme clue]
34. __ of London: LLOYDS. Lloyd's of London is not an insurance company; rather, Lloyd's is a corporate body governed by the Lloyd's Act of 1871 and subsequent Acts of Parliament. It operates as a marketplace within which financial backers come together to pool and spread risk.
36. Word in some alumna updates: NÉE. Née is French for "born." He was born = Il est né. She was born = Elle est née. We tend to see née referring to the ladies because they often change their names. Sally Jones née Smith is Mrs. Jones now, but was born Sally Smith. An alumna is a female graduate, and having née in an update might help you recognize an old classmate.
37. __ Domani wine: ECCO. Ecco Domani is the brand of an Italian wine company selling in the United States, Canada, and Northern Europe, with marketing and distribution by E & J Gallo Winery. Founded in 1996, it reportedly produces the top imported Italian pinot grigio in the United States. DNK.
38. Comfy shoe brand: UGG.
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| Eldest daughter used to live in these. |
39. [Theme clue]
42. Like cold, damp weather: RAW. DH and I learned this expression when visiting Massachusetts in the winter.
43. Island home of Kahului Airport: MAUI. Had to be Maui or Oahu, but visitors to Oahu fly to the Daniel K. Inouye International Airport in Honolulu.
45. Brand of flavored water: BAI. Bai water starts with coffee fruit -- the fruit that surrounds the coffee bean -- and contains caffeine. Another DNK for me. Old school water is probably better for you.
42. Like cold, damp weather: RAW. DH and I learned this expression when visiting Massachusetts in the winter.
43. Island home of Kahului Airport: MAUI. Had to be Maui or Oahu, but visitors to Oahu fly to the Daniel K. Inouye International Airport in Honolulu.
45. Brand of flavored water: BAI. Bai water starts with coffee fruit -- the fruit that surrounds the coffee bean -- and contains caffeine. Another DNK for me. Old school water is probably better for you.
46. High school for the T-Birds and the Pink Ladies: RYDELL. I guessed (correctly) that this had to do with the musical movie Grease. The filming location was Venice High School, near my good friend's house.
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| John Travolta in "Grease" |
48. [Theme clue]
51. Wee bits: IOTAS.
52. Whispery YouTube genre, initially: ASMR. An autonomous sensory meridian response is a tingling sensation that begins on the scalp and moves down the back of the neck and upper spine, accompanied by feelings of euphoria. It can be triggered by specific auditory stimuli. The term ASMR can also refer to the audiovisual media meant to evoke this phenomenon. I thought tingling sensations and feelings of euphoria were DH's job!
51. Wee bits: IOTAS.
52. Whispery YouTube genre, initially: ASMR. An autonomous sensory meridian response is a tingling sensation that begins on the scalp and moves down the back of the neck and upper spine, accompanied by feelings of euphoria. It can be triggered by specific auditory stimuli. The term ASMR can also refer to the audiovisual media meant to evoke this phenomenon. I thought tingling sensations and feelings of euphoria were DH's job!
53. Dangle: HANG.
55. Grab __: BAG.
57. [Theme clue]
63. "The Godfather" brother: FREDO. Frederico "Fredo" Corleone is a fictional character in Mario Puzo's 1969 novel The Godfather. Fredo is portrayed by John Cazale in the film adaptations.
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| John Cazale as Fredo Corleone |
65. Cousin's mom: AUNT.
66. French for "sword": ÉPÉE.
67. Penalties: FINES.
68. __ gin fizz: SLOE. Sloe gin is a red British liqueur made with gin and blackthorn fruits (sloes), which are related to plums. Add lemon juice, sugar, and club soda to make a sloe gin fizz.
69. Hon: DOLL.
70. Indulges fully: SATES.
71. End of a texter's request: PLS. Please.
72. Onesie closer: SNAP. I am buying these again for a forthcoming grandchild.
66. French for "sword": ÉPÉE.
67. Penalties: FINES.
68. __ gin fizz: SLOE. Sloe gin is a red British liqueur made with gin and blackthorn fruits (sloes), which are related to plums. Add lemon juice, sugar, and club soda to make a sloe gin fizz.
69. Hon: DOLL.
70. Indulges fully: SATES.
71. End of a texter's request: PLS. Please.
72. Onesie closer: SNAP. I am buying these again for a forthcoming grandchild.
Down:
1. Ty who had a .366 career batting average: COBB. I knew that batter Ty was Cobb! 🥳🎉
2. Treat with a Post Malone limited edition version: OREO. OK, I know our crossword treats are often Oreos, but Post Malone? Post Malone is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, record producer, and actor, known for his blending of various genres including hip-hop, pop, R&B, trap, and country. Oreo.com says "Post Malone Taste Twist OREO Cookies are sweet snacks featuring never-before-seen swirled creme in limited edition snack cookies inspired by Post Malone. Posty’s Swirled Salted Caramel and Shortbread Flavor Creme is sandwiched between a bottom Golden OREO wafer and a top OREO chocolate wafer embossed with one of nine unique designs."
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| Post Malone with his Oreos. There ought to be a crossword version. |
3. Frosts: ICES.
4. Tomi Adeyemi genre: FANTASY. Her website says, "Named one of TIME magazine’s 100 Most Influential People, Tomi Adeyemi is a Hugo- and Nebula Award–winning writer, actress, and model based in New York, New York. After graduating from Harvard University with an honors degree in English literature, she wrote the groundbreaking, instant #1 New York Times-bestselling Legacy of Orïsha series, which includes Children of Blood and Bone, Children of Virtue and Vengeance, and Children of Anguish and Anarchy. Tomi’s trilogy is being developed into a feature film and has sold over 3 million copies around the world." DNK.
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| Tomi Adeyemi |
5. Pirate's prosthetic, perhaps: PEG LEG.
6. Gray __: AREA.
7. One direction: WEST. That is one of the four directions, for sure!
8. Foodstuff known as "mother of all grains" to the Inca: QUINOA. One of the few plant-based foods that provides all nine essential amino acids.
9. Hesitant murmur: UMM.
10. Poorly kept confidence: OPEN SECRET.
11. Genmaicha and matcha: TEAS.
12. Poet __ St. Vincent Millay: EDNA. Edna St. Vincent Millay (1892-1950) was an American poet and playwright. A noted social figure and feminist in New York City during the Roaring Twenties, Millay won the 1923 Pulitzer Prize for Poetry and was awarded the Frost Medal for her lifetime contribution to American poetry.
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| Edna St. Vincent Millay |
14. "Die Hard" villain Gruber: HANS. Hans Gruber is the fictional villain of the 1988 movie Die Hard starring Bruce Willis. Gruber was Alan Rickman's first film role. DNK.
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| Alan Rickman as Hans Gruber |
20. Slanted columns: OP-EDS. An op-ed piece is so named because this type of column often appears opposite the editorial page in a newspaper. It usually represents the strong, informed, and focused opinion of the writer on an issue of relevance to a targeted audience.
21. Out of neutral: IN GEAR.
25. Cannes Mrs.: MME. French abbreviation for Madame.
26. Perfectly vertical: PLUMB.
27. Diet for aquarium snails: ALGAE.
28. Double-crossing spy: ROGUE AGENT.
30. Like many Sundance entries: INDIE. Sundance is an annual festival featuring independent (indie) films, produced outside the major studios.
31. Garland sometimes given as a graduation gift: LEI.
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| Leis are becoming common at graduations around the country. |
32. Milan's La __: SCALA. La Scala is a historic opera house in Milan, Italy.
33. Bays (at): HOWLS.
35. Legacy creator: SUBARU.
40. Singer __ King Cole: NAT. Nat King Cole (1919 - 1965) was an American singer, jazz pianist, and actor. His career as a vocalist started in the late 1930s and spanned almost three decades. He recorded over 100 songs that became hits on the pop charts.
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| Nat King Cole |
41. Bluffing: LYING.
44. Conditionals: IFS.
47. Boxers' mats: DOG BEDS.
49. Decorate with a raised seal: EMBOSS.
50. Savanna herbivores: RHINOS.
54. Upfront stake: ANTE.
55. Chums with matching bracelets, perhaps: BFFS. A BFF is a Best Friend Forever.
44. Conditionals: IFS.
47. Boxers' mats: DOG BEDS.
49. Decorate with a raised seal: EMBOSS.
50. Savanna herbivores: RHINOS.
54. Upfront stake: ANTE.
55. Chums with matching bracelets, perhaps: BFFS. A BFF is a Best Friend Forever.
56. Number of divas: ARIA. An aria is a musical "number" sung by divas (female opera singers).
58. Woodworking tool: RASP.
59. __ and void: NULL.
60. Over: UPON. Physically above and in contact with something:. He placed a cloth over (or upon) the table.
61. Actress Ward: SELA. Sela Ward's acting credits include TV shows like House, CSI: NY, and FBI, and movies including Gone Girl and Independence Day: Resurgence.
58. Woodworking tool: RASP.
59. __ and void: NULL.
60. Over: UPON. Physically above and in contact with something:. He placed a cloth over (or upon) the table.
61. Actress Ward: SELA. Sela Ward's acting credits include TV shows like House, CSI: NY, and FBI, and movies including Gone Girl and Independence Day: Resurgence.
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| Sela Ward |
62. Release before "Rubber Soul": HELP. "Help" and "Rubber Soul" were albums released by the Beatles in 1965. "Help" was the soundtrack to the 1965 movie of the same name. "Rubber Soul" contained some of the same songs, and others as well, all original creations of the band.
64. Not quite the worst grade: DEE.
Here's the grid:
Did this puzzle remind you of the good old days?
Or was it contemporary enough to keep you on your toes?
NaomiZ
34 comments:
In spite of the many
times we’ve had “ASMR,” I never seem to remember it. But the perps there and other places were kind. Anyway, FIR, so I’m happy.
Good morning!
You fooled me, NaomiZ. I thought I was reading a Dash-T expo, especially with the comment at 38a. I like this idea of putting the theme in the clues -- nothing to search for; no reveal to miss. Thanx, Michael and NaomiZ.
NAT: He spent most of his recording career at Capitol Records. They called it "the house that Nat built."
FIW. I was so focused on GILGAMESH x QUINOA that I missed MdE that I had changed from MME to make my GILGAMESH guess easier. Snatched defeat from the very jowls of victory.
I really wanted it to be Warren Zevon's Werewolves Of London, but it wouldn't fit.
A four-letter fill for "treat" will eternally be OREO, regardless of the opaqueness of the rest of the clue.
An AUNT of DW's co-worker hand made a pair of LEIs and had them air freighted to LA for our wedding in Northridge. Beautiful and fragrant.
In spite of nearly getting this one right, I didn't find it much fun, except for "boxer's mats" for DOG BEDS. Way too much A&E for my liking. But I did enjoy NaomiZ's recap, so thanks for that.
Took 6:08 today to fill this in like it was old hat.
I knew today's actress (Sela), vaguely remembered one of today's writers (Edna, but not the fantasy author), and I didn't know Boston Latin. I also didn't know (or care for) "mme" crossing the wine (luckily guessed "e" rather than "a").
Rabbit, rabbit.
I hope no one needs to send an SOS today.
I don't enjoy all the new words, abbreviations etc. I am not happy that I apparently have become a curmudgeon, but it is what it is. Thanks for a fun write-up, Naomi and Professor Berg, I guess I need to take your class.
My first thought for a four letter word at "Beehive, for one" was oven. The beehive coke ovens at Leetonia, Ohio
Fashionista Marge Simpson always stands out due to her very tall and very blue beehive COIF.
NaomiZ, congrats on knowing that hitter Ty was COBB. Perhaps your allergy is waning? Let's test. How about baseball Speaker?
I was with you on a few of those DNKs.
Thanks for the fun, Michael, and thanks for the learning moments, NaomiZ.
Musings
-A lesser person might say “I had a grand OLD time” but not me
-Spring weather in Nebraska can mean playing golf on RAW days
-Oh my, I actually remembered ASMR
-COBB made me replace confidently written in UPDO
-Tomi has very little influence in my pedestrian life
-It was an OPEN SECRET that a colleague wore a wig
-Now to go find some dixie cups, pipe cleaners and candy for Mayday.
FIR, but it was a struggle for me. Lots of learning moments, and unfortunately too many proper names for my liking. And ASMR just won't stick in my memory banks for some reason.
The theme answers were clever and it was fun to try to figure them out. Gilgadesh once again didn't immediately click. When will my memory banks open again?
Overall an enjoyable puzzle.
FIR, but á lot of my fills came about thanks to perps, not my knowledge. I caught on th the theme with GILGAMESH, yes he seems to be á popular guy, but that first one had me stumped. I’ve never heard of BOSTON LATIN. Sounds like an impressive place I shout have known about.
The NW was the last to fall. For 1A I wanted updo, the coil. The crossing clues weren’t very helpful. ASMR just can’t stick in my memory because it means so little to me, so perps helped there. NOMS was á result of perps.
This CW was mercifully free of obscure, to me, names. I knew COBB, EDNA, SELA. I loved the pussyfoot clue. So all in all á somewhat challenging solve, but still fun.
Thank you NaomiZ for that great recap.
Good Morning:
I thought this was a very clever, fresh idea that was executed well and provided an enjoyable solve. There was just the right amount of resistance for a Thursday challenge, i.e., the surprise repeat of Gilgamesh, the hard-to-remember ASMR, the unknown Fantasy, Subaru, as clued, etc., but the perps were fair, so no major obstacles. My favorite C/A was Old Flame?=Burning Bush, with Old Timer=Sundial a close second.
Thanks, Michael, for a fun romp and thanks, Naomi, for the detailed and interesting review.
Have a great day.
Ooh, typos. I caught on to the theme. I wanted updo then coil. OK, I think that’s all.
Lots of clever, original cluing that avoided "overly cutesie" territory. I really enjoyed this puzzle.
Correction to paragraph 1 of the blog post: today's puzzle is Michael B. Berg's 4th in the L.A. Times. TTP has kindly improved my search strategy. :-)
Just right for a Thursday puzzle. I saw the theme in the clues, which were quite clever. This was a fun outing.
Beehive immediately brought to my mind, hairdo. I already had the C and the I perps, so no problem. My hair was always too fine for any fancy hairdo like that. When I tuned 80 and my hair turned partially gray, it had more body and volume. It's the best hair of my lifetime, a bonus of being in my 80's,
Many of the answers were wagged with a perp or two or three.
My favorite was SUBARU, which I wagged, not remembering ASMR and not knowing BAI, Clever misdirection.
The Beefeater guard is 540 years old and still going strong.
HG, I am intrigued. What is your May Day project?
And TTP -- Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth, ¡Sí! Tristram Speaker, ¡No!
I, for one, enjoy the new words, slang and pop culture references , but not so much the new names, unless they have enough perps. I am still curious about other people, other customs and life styles, other times, and especially new vocabulary. We were taught to encourage our students to be life long learners and to model it ourselves.
Once again, enjoyed the recap more than the puzzle. Thanks, NaomiZ! I'll Echo Lemonade on this one.
I remember seeing Danny Devito telling Johnny Carson about his stint as a hairdresser. He worked in his sister’s salon. His specialty was a Beehive Hairdo. https://madlyodd.com/danny-devitos-hilarious-interview-on-carsons-tonight-show/
I never noticed the "Old" was the theme until I got here. Duh! I DNK BOSTON LATIN and got it via perps. GILGAMESH'S story was unknown and it was mostly filled by perps. Sunday it was 100% perps.
BAI, RYDELL (never saw Grease), OREO, ASMR, FANTASY, ECCO- other unknowns as clued.,
It's supposed to be a crossWORD puzzle, not a Cross-Abbr. puzzle.. MME, NSA, ASMR, PLS, UMM (um with an extra letter), OP-EDS, BFFS.
Agreed. It is a cross-abbreviation puzzle.
Hola! I can't believe it! GILGAMESH appears again! Thank you, Michael B. Berg, for etching that name into my memory.
With the C for COBB in place, COIF immediately came to mind quickly followed by ORCA. As an English teacher, PARSE is definitely in my wheelhouse. ASMR? I have no idea but the perps filled it. I loved the clue for BURNING BUSH! And there is AUNT crossing ANTE!
RYDELL High School is also firmly burned in my mind with Eve Arden's raspy voice in the background. My daughter must have watched "Grease" hundreds of times. Thank you, NaomiZ, for a thorough Thursday thesis.
Have a wonderful day, everyone!
Very pleasant Thursday puzzle, many thanks, Michael. And you commentaries are always helpful and a pleasure, NaomiZ, thanks for those too.
Well, it looks like the guy in this puzzle lived in BOSTON and occasionally UMPED at ball games. And he was also clearly an animal lover since he had DOG BEDS for his pets in his bedroom and fed them OREO cookies and took them for rides in his SUBARU. And he wasn't bothered by their HOWLS. A really nice guy--I bet his AUNT thought he was a DOLL.
Have a pleasant, cheerful day, everybody.
Look up Ward Charcoal Ovens in Nevada. You will find some great pictures. Maybe some of you will come visit
Too many names, 18 by my count, DNK 8, among them BOSTONLATIN and GILGAMESH. I was very surprised that I managed to FIR with all the DNKs, and even more surprised it was only 15 minutes. Thought of "UPDO" first at 1A, but perps gave me COIF. Overall, not my favorite CW, but far better than I could create, so "thanx" to MBB anyway. Very nice write-up, NaomiZ, thanx for all the time and effort.
Edward was n Los Angeles: is it Monnday? Wat too easy.
Thursday Test. Thanks for the fun, Michael and NaomiZ.
I FIRed eventually, and saw the Old theme.
But oh the inkblots.
Eons became AGES, BlazING changed to BURNING.
My grab BAr became a BAG, giving me AGENT (and confirming the E in FREDO.
I pencilled in Oahu, but it quickly became MAUI with IFS.
Yes, Lucina and I just had a discussion about our learning experience Sunday with GILGAMESH. I remembered the A today to correct QUINOi.
I preferred DOLL to Bae.
BOSTON LATIN was unknown to me.
ASMR has been seen here before, but hand up for finding it hard to remember.
Wishing you all a great day.
Even though it's been 100 years since Tris Speaker played, there are only a handful of center fielders in that 100 years who have come close to his talents. They have names like Willy Mays, Mickey Mantle, and Joe DiMaggio.
And when it comes to defense, only Mays was as good as Tris Speaker in center field. His glove was defined as "where triples go to die."
Dr. Berg’s submission turned out to be less difficult than at first glance, and I was able to chug through it with only a few hang-ups. I almost killed the FIR with filling MLE instead of MME, until I looked at GILGALESH and went “waidaminit, dat don’t look right!” and dodged that bullet. Plus, I was agonizing trying to come up with a person who’s a “Legacy creator”, until the Homer Simpson “doh!!” moment hit. We own a Subi, fer Pete’s sake (in my defense, it’s a Crosstrek).
NaomiZ, you’re getting keener at the review game every run! 😎👍🏽
Like many of us, this ASMR thing is one I can never seem to recall; it sounds like some respiratory ailment that a BOSTONLATIN student would suffer from… 😆
Hmmm…does RHINO stand for Ruminant Herbivore In Name Only?
I’ll see myself out…
====> Darren / L.A.
The largest sundial in the western hemisphere is not in Carefree, Arizona. That distinction likely belongs to the Sundial Bridge in Redding, California, which dwarfs the one in Carefree.
Sorry about the Habs' elimination. My Capitals seem to be hitting their stride. Your young team has a lot of good building blocks, and will be better next year for having a season and a playoff round under their belts. My problem is that my second-favorite team is the Carolina Hurricanes, and they'll play the Caps in round 2. I really like the 'Canes, and they would probably be my favorites if their TV coverage here was better. I would have to buy an additional DirecTV package to watch them, and I already get all the Caps games with the package I have.
I liked this puzzle. Had the same writeovers as many of you had, e.g. UPDO before COIF, BAR before BAG, and EONS before AGES.
Edna St. Vincent Millay is not Edna Millay NÉE St. Vincent.
RYDELL brings to my mind the singer Bobby Rydell (né Robert Louis Ridarell). I liked his voice and style of singing. Another Bobby who I very much liked was Bobby Darin (né Walden Robert Cassotto). And of course there's the wonderful Mario Lanza (né Alfredo Arnold Cocozza).
Thanks for the write-up, NaomiZ. By the way, that burning bush looks like it's inside that cave, an odd place for a bush to grow.
Good reading you all.
FIR in 12:26, although for the second time in a week or so, I looked for the theme in the answers and not the clues, and never did notice they all started with “Old”. A couple of months ago I saw Post Malone OREOs in a grocery store and mentioned it on her that some day we would see it clued as that, and sure enough, although as mentioned by Jinx, any four letter treat is usually a giveaway Ektorp. I don’t think I’ll ever memorize the correct order of letters in ASMR. I did enjoy the puzzle, thank you Michael for that, and as always I enjoyed NaomiZ’s recap!
That is a great observation, Jayce. I liked the picture, but the text does not suggest a cave. Exodus 3, verses 1-2: Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up.
Thanks Jinx, but I’m a Maple Leafs fan. They won their series over Ottawa tonight. It was a hard-fought battle against Ottawa. Now they play the Florida Panthers.
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