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Jun 6, 2025

Friday, June 6, 2025 - Baylor Gallagher and Katie Hale

 

 Theme:  "No, No, Nanette"

  
ZaSu Pitts played Pauline Hastings in the film "No No Nanette"

Puzzling thoughts:

In all honesty, I found coming up for a "theme" for today's puzzle quite difficult.  I certainly "get" the concept of adding and/or subtracting a letter from a more or less familiar phrase, and then cluing it to provide a pun and/or humorous outcome.  But did you find this puzzle fun and/or enjoyable to solve?  Did the entries tickle your "facy"?  The Chairman is a bit "oplussed"

In checking "Google" for any references to the co-constructor (Baylor Gallagher) I found none.  So I am guessing that this is her/their debut puzzle.  Choosing the assistant editor of the LA Times Crossword Puzzle (Katie) to collaborate with was certainly not a bad idea.  Katie has been published quite often in other venues, and here, too.  And if I had to guess, the puzzle idea was Baylor's and Katie helped create the grid and many of the connecting words and/or clues
 
Reveal:
 
I will start with the "reveal" in case some of you were scratching your head trying to figure out what happened in the entries.  64-across. Out of the ordinary, or, parsed differently, what has been applied to the phrases in 18-, 24-, 41-, and 53-Across?: NON STANDARD (NO "N" STANDARD when parsed differently).  If you remove the letter "N" from a word in the four entry phrases it supports the clue.  But no "n" standard seems forced and a bit weak, IMO
 
Entries:
 
18-across. False claim about a DIY project?: ASSEMBLY LIE.  The first entry was probably the best of the four.  As most know, a Do It Yourself project requires a lot of "assembly".  The term "assembly liNe" dates back to the automotive industry and was a feature of the FORD Model T cars to make the building of them more efficient.  Without the "N" in the word "line", it fits the clue
 
24-across. Overall condition of steel girders and beams?: METAL HEALTHMeNtal health is a known phrase but had I been editing/choosing this I might have looked for something less serious to spoof
 
41-across. "Do you know who my father is?"?: I'M KID OF A BIG DEAL"I'm kiNd of a big deal" is a bit of a stretch (again, IMO) and why clue it as "male-related"?  Couldn't this question (the clue) be asked of King Charles in referring to his mother, Queen Elizabeth?  She was kind of a big deal ... 

53-across. "Just put the succulent down and go!"?: "LEAVE ME ALOE!".  "Leave me alone!" is the phrase that this is spoofing.  Meh.  We use aloe often here in the desert SW when we've been exposed to too much sun.  Not sure I would be so brazen if I requested some from a friend
 

The grid:



The rest of the answers to the clues:

Across:
1. Dashboard tech: GPSMPH and RPM were tried, unsuccessfully.  The first of 20 three-letter words and 12 abbreviations in today's puzzle

4. Queen with icy powers: ELSA. The fictional character from Disney's "Frozen"

8. Hands over: GIVESCEDES was tried, unsuccessfully

13. Daiquiri ingredient: RUM.  This clue was directed, I think, at we older solvers as I doubt that many Millennials and/or Gen Z's drink Daiquiris.  And another cocktail related clue/word was found at (30-down. Cognac cocktail with orange liqueur): SIDECAR.  This is another drink that probably escapes the younger generations

 

The sidecar became popular in Paris and London in the early 1920s


14. Purple hue: MAUVELILAC was tried, unsuccessfully

16. Put on a pedestal: ADORE.

17. Rollover subj.: IRA.  Not so fun fact:  the Chairman did this once and the institution I had the IRA with forgot to report it as a "rollover" to another retirement fund.  The IRS spotted this and sent me a tax statement for a huge amount of $.  Moe had to make a lot of phone calls and collect a lot of paperwork to prove the rollover was legit

[a theme entry]

20. Word of thanks: MERCI.  Hmm.  I suppose that the word "merci" (although French) is commonly substituted for the word "thanks".  The clue didn't lead us to knowing this

22. "Thus with a kiss __": Romeo's final line: I DIE. Seemed kind of logical as I recall that Romeo dies in the final scene of Shakespeare's play, "Romeo and Juliet"

23. Fortune: LUCK.  I'm reminded of the negative phrase: "if it weren't for bad luck I would have none at all"

[entry]

27. "Industry Baby" rapper Lil __ X: NAS.

28. Intel org.: NSA.  An anagram of 27-across, too

29. Vane point: EAST.  Had to end in st; waited for the perps to determine whether it was 90° or 270°

31. Dry mop target: DUST.

34. __ large: LOOM.

38. Reunion attendee: NIECE.  And its clecho: (54-down. Reunion attendee): AUNT. In both cases the constructors were looking at family reunions rather than school reunions

[entry]

44. Invertebrate's lack: SPINE.

45. Greek house: FRAT.  Moe-ku #1:

        When transgender pledge
        Thought they joined sorority,
        They said, "I smell a FRAT"

46. Sea eagles: ERNS.  Crossword-ese; kind of surprised to see one in this puzzle, honestly

47. Tropical tree: PALM.

49. Business letter abbr.: ENC.  I somehow prefer the letters encl to refer to an enclosure in a letter

51. Commanders org.: NFL.  Erstwhile Washington Redskins

[entry]

60. "Oh, woe!": ALAS.

62. Hearts, e.g.: SUIT.  Could've used spades, clubs, or diamonds

63. Eat away at: ERODE.

[reveal]

67. Countdown start: TEN. "Nine, eight, seven, six, five, ...

68. Large venue: ARENA.

69. Hit lightly: TAP ON.

70. Letters of urgency: SOS

71. Full of back talk: SASSY.

72. Gave temporarily: LENT.  Does this word have any particular significance when something is given temporarily during the time period from Ash Wednesday to Good Friday?

73. Indefinite amount: ANY.  Fun observation:  now that I have lived in the desert SW for almost 6 years and take many hikes, I have discovered that the number of rocks, pebbles, and boulders on this planet are not just indefinite, but they may be infinite

Down:
1. Fairy tale brother: GRIMM.  As in the brothers GRIMM

2. Step in making some soups: PUREE

3. Sharp: SMART.

4. Online letters: EMAILS.

5. Part of UNLV: LAS.  The "Running Rebels" is the sports team nickname for the University of Nevada @ Las Vegas

6. Girl in "Calvin and Hobbes": SUSIESusie Derkins is a little girl who makes her home in Calvin's neighborhood. She is his well-known neighbor and the only major character to have both a given name and a family name

Susie is an intelligent and polite 6-year-old girl, who in many ways is a foil to Calvin. She takes her studies seriously and doesn't slack off on her homework as Calvin does. She also takes piano lessons 

[this from the calvin and hobbes fandom page]

The three characters

7. Eco-friendly spa brand: AVEDA.

8. Lass: GAL.

9. Pastoral poem: IDYL.

10. Tennessee athlete: VOLUNTEER.  Or when written as the plural, VOLUNTEERS, a Jefferson Airplane song back in the Vietnam War era.  I could've chosen "Rocky Top" but I didn't

 




11. "I Luh God" gospel singer Campbell: ERICA. Sounds more like rap, to me

 




12. Is after: SEEKS.

15. Wakim of "SNL": EMIL.  This video violates politics and religion, but it was the only SNL video I could find on YouTube.  FTR, I haven't watched SNL since it first aired 50 years ago

 




19. __ noire: BETE.  From [Merriam-Webster]: "BĂȘte noire is a French phrase meaning "black beast" or "bugbear". It refers to a person or thing strongly detested or avoided"

21. Saloon: CANTINA.  From [Merriam-Webster]: "Cantina is a noun that can mean a pouch or bag at the pommel of a saddle, or a small barroom or saloon"

25. Angelic glow: HALO.  AURA fit unsuccessfully

26. Suspend: HANG

[listed in across]

31. Insult: DISIs it DIS or DISS??

32. Cricket official: UMP.  Similar to baseball I've heard

33. Some transports in the Arctic tundra: SKI PLANES.  They are real!

 



35. On vacation: OFF.  I suppose if they allowed 2-letter words in xword puzzles, the opposite clue would fit: OFF vacation = ON

36. Regatta tool: OAR.  When I think of a regatta I picture this:



But when you sort through enough images, you will find the picture of what today's clue describes: 




37. Exec's degree: MBA.

39. "__ it wait?": CAN.

40. High trains: ELS.  Also a transport for golfer Ernie?

42. Wooded valley: DELL.  GLEN fits too

43. Thing: ITEM.

48. Colorado's __ Verde National Park: MESA.  This is one of several dozen National Park sites that Ms Margaret and I have visited.  Well worth seeing

50. "You __ worry": NEEDN'T. I may have incorrectly counted this as one of the abbreviations ... technically it's a contraction

51. Mamas' mamas: NANAS.  Meemaws didn't fit but GRANS did

52. Vegetation: FLORA.  Place where many fauna hang out

[added in the across section]

55. "1876" novelist Gore: VIDALSome info about the novel

56. Tour de France stage: ETAPEDefinition

57. Many, casually: LOTSA.  Speaking of "casually", remember when Casual Fridays first appeared?

 


58. Classic Greek theater: ODEON.  Does anybody who is a senior citizen remember the name(s) of their town's movie theater as a child?  The two in our south-central Pennsylvania town were called the Strand and the Capitol

59. Minuscule: EENSY.

61. Hyphenated IDs: SSNS.  Have I ever mentioned before that certain pluralized abbreviations are not my cup of tea?

65. Swift nickname, when doubled: TAY.  As in TAYlor Swift.  I wonder if today's constructor follows her?  Moe-ku #2:

        Heard Ms. Gallagher
        Is a huge fan of Ms. Swift
        BAY BAY loves TAY TAY  

66. Emmy winner __ Cephas Jones: RON. Ron appeared on one of my favorite made for TV dramas This is Us

 
Summary:
 
Coming up with new and fresh puzzle ideas is getting more and more difficult.  I get it.  And while my sense of humor was not stimulated by today's puzzle I'm sure that others may like it.  But as the blogger/critic of each puzzle I solve and describe here, I don't want to sugar-coat something if I don't find it overly creative and/or enjoyable.  We can agree to disagree

28 comments:

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

My first impressions were mostly correct this morning. Exceptions: CEDES/GIVES, ALUM/AUNT. TAP ON seemed to be a stretch. D-o looked at SKIP LANES for a long time before the anvil dropped. Thought the theme was OK, and gettable without the need for a reveal. Thanx, Baylor, Katie, and C-Moe. (Our little town had only a single movie theater, so it was just the city theater. If you could convince the ticket seller that you'd already seen the movie, you could get in for free, saving your fifteen cents.)

Anonymous said...

Took 9:22 today for me to fiish this oe.

Seemed like a now-typical Friday with the +/- a letter theme, although I agree that the reveal was a reach.

I struggled with the French (etape & merci), Greek (odeon; not frat), the singer who "luh" God (Erica), the SNL newcomer (Emil), Aveda, and a couple others.

Like d-o, it took me a long time to parse "skip ____s."

Like the Chairman, I really enjoyed touring Mesa Verde National Park. Before going, I expected it to be more ... museum-like, but you can actually go through some of the tunnels. Very pretty too.

Whither SubG?

Jinx in Norfolk said...

DNF, but not because I was stumped. Got most of it, and was sidetracked (not sidecarred) by son and DL, and thought I had finished when I still had two blank squares. I'll take family and friends before a FIR any day. erne->ERNS, alum->AUNT, and odium->ODEON (UNTIE!)

For a change, I got the gimmick before arriving at the theme entry.

The Tennessee VOLUNTEERS are contenders in the top collegiate sports conference, the SEC. As Queen Victoria was told after we won the first America's Cup, there is no second.

Palms are pretty but messy. I prefer the gumbo limbo.

It's DIS, not DISS, for "disrespect." I think.

My hometown's main street was also US-60, named the Midland Trail. So our one and only indoor theater was the Midland Trail Theater, conveniently located a half block north of Main Street. The drive-in was simply named the Morehead Drive-In. I'll refrain from jokes about Morehead and teen drive-in activities.

Thanks to Baylor and Katie for the fun, easy-for-Friday challenge. And thanks to our Chairman for another fine review, replete with chuckle-worthy Moekus.

Subgenius said...

Forgive me for being
“late” friends, but the internet on my phone has been off for two days, and it was not until I could get to my tech whiz friend Megan that she could tell me what was going on and fix it. (It had to do with Wi-Fi).
I did end up doing the puzzle, which seemed to have a pretty usual Friday level of difficulty,
FIR, so I’m happy .

Neville said...

Here's some more on Baylor Gallagher, who is indeed making his debut today: https://www.cnusports.com/sports/football/roster/baylor-gallagher/19300

Thoroughly enjoyed the puzzle, but it played tough for me! I was also in the CEDES camp. VOLUNTEER set me straight, though.

BobB said...

I too kept parsing 33d as skip lanes.

KS said...

FIR. I had cedes before gives and tap in before tap on, but other than that fairly straightforward Friday fare.
I got the theme early with me(n)tal health which helped a lot with the solve. However the reveal had me stumped for a while before I had my aha moment.
Overall an enjoyable puzzle.

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

I’m glad that I wasn’t the only one who parsed Ski Planes incorrectly. I also went astray at Cedes/Gives, Aura/Halo, and Live/Loom. The only unknowns were the usual suspects, pop culture proper names: Emil, Susie, and Erica. I spent an inordinate amount of time trying to parse the reveal to fit the themers and, even after Moe’s explanation, it’s too much of a stretch, IMO. I’ll admit to holding a higher standard for what I would like in a Friday puzzle but, as Moe, so accurately points out, creativity and freshness and, may I add, challenging word play, are the exception today, rather than the norm.

Thanks, Baylor and Katie, and thanks, Moe, for your honest and fair appraisal and for the excellent explication of the theme/reveal. I share your fondness for This Is Us.

Have a great day.

Big Easy said...

I caught that missing N when I completed the NW. It helped solve a few of unknowns-ELSA, SUSIE, & AVEDA- after ASSEMBLY LIE was completed. I wasn't thinking GPS or SMART but the GRIMM boy helped.

SIDECAR- I'm not in 'the younger generations' but I didn't really know what was in that drink. Remember the "Pepsi generation"?
I've never heard the term SKIPLANE but know what they are. Airplanes with skis.

Reunion attendee- uncle, aunt, alum, aunts, niece, and skeleton in the closet.
ERICA, EMIL, TAY RON- more people who filled the grid by perps.

IRA- Moe's not the only one. When I quit working I sent the Vanguard information for my company to send it directly to Vanguard as a direct rollover. What did they do? They sent the check TO ME. Luckily, Vanguard took care of the hassle.

I'M KID OF A BIG DEAL- about 25-30 years ago when my son was working a late shift for the PD, he was sent to an accident scene. The drunk lady had run into three parked cars and refused to take a breathalyzer test. So he put the cuffs on her and while hauling off to jail she said- my father-in-law is the DA. His replay was simply "I don't un-arrest anybody".

Monkey said...

FIR, so no complaints. I soon detected the theme which helped fill my unknowns like EMIL, SUSIE and ERICA.

I wanted cedes for GIVES and lilac for MAUVE. At first I had SKI PLAtES, then changed NOt STANDARD to NON.

I neither loved nor disliked this puzzle. I thought it was easier than many Friday ones.

Thank you C-Moe for that frank and informative review.

Big Easy said...

I'm with Moe. I'm not a fan of some puzzles. CORNY, PUNNY, CIRCLES. Coming up with new themes is hard. I like the Saturday type puzzles, even it I can't complete them.

JoyB said...

About today’s puzzle…. My Mom always said if I couldn’t say anything nice to be quiet… so now I will just have ‘a word of silence’. Of course my friend Judy’s Mom advised her to ‘call it like she saw it’.

CrossEyedDave said...

Normally, I love a Friday gimmicky puzzle, because the gimmick usually aids in the solve. But for me, todays reveal refused to reveal itself...

I think it might have been the two Naticks, "Tay," and "Ron." But mostly due to my inability to parse correctly. What I see is " No N's Tandard...

oh well...

sumdaze said...

Thanks and congratulations to Baylor on his LAT debut! Thanks, also, to Katie for adding her expert touch! I liked the LEAVE ME ALOE themer the best.

Thanks to C-Moe for his VOLUNTEER duties today!

Copy Editor said...

Perps were fair. Theme puns were poor. What C-Moe said.

I liked Moe’s FRAT joke, but must point out that fraternity folk don’t like “frat.”

Favorite entry: NEEDN’T, a CSO to Thelonious Monk and his wonderful “Well, You Needn’t.”

A highlight of a Mesa Verde visit is climbing a 32-foot ladder along a cliff. I braved it.

Chairman Moe said...

Mea culpa. Here is a blurb regarding the name Baylor. I guess it's considered a gender-neutral first name. Its origins are English and as a surname it meant "horse trainer"

Yes, Baylor can be used as a girl's name. It's a unisex name, meaning it's traditionally used for both boys and girls, and its usage for girls has become more common in recent years. Baylor's origin is traced back to the German surname "Beiler," meaning "measuring stick," and has also been associated with the English word "bailer," meaning a person who delivers things. In 2024, Baylor was the 807th most popular girl's name in the United States, according to The Bump, says BabyCenter.

Husker Gary said...

Musings
-Someone must have done some spring cleaning and found a bunch of proper names lying around and put them in this puzzle. :-)
-SUSIE/EMIL/ERICA/AVEDA (ERICA and RON appeared later) was a brutal quartet but the gimmick helped. I’m surprised GAL was clued as actress Gadot.
-When we flew into very primitive central Saskatchewan to fish, we needed a FLOAT PLANE for the trip.
-My eldest daughter did not invoke my name but when a Lincoln policeman saw her maiden name, he asked if I was her father. When she said yes, he just told her to slow down.
-Youngest daughter now lives on Moonlight Bay in Lincoln which saves us 15 minutes in drive time but I needed GPS to find my way there and back out the first time.
-Since figuring out my swing mistakes, my golf LUCK has greatly improved
-There is a significant movement by native and non-native fans to restore the nickname Redskins
-Chairman: To quote Carl Sagan, “There are more stars in the heavens than grains of sand on all the beaches on the planet Earth.”
-If I go to a Spanish CANTINA, can I request to be seated at a MESA VERDE?
-Also, Victor Borge said, “In America, Giuseppe Verdi is simply ‘Joe Green’”.
-When I was in college, the town ODEON was The Gay Theater. The name is now The Majestic Theater”
-BAY BAY and TAY TAY are just TOO TOO...

Irish Miss said...

Joy, as the King of Siam mused, “‘Tis a puzzlement!” 😂

NaomiZ said...

I enjoyed today's puzzle and had fun applying the NO "N" STANDARD to the theme answers after getting METAL HEALTH. Filling the reveal was the hardest part for me because I was unaware of Ms Swift's nickname (TAY TAY) and of Emmy winner RON Cephas Jones. EMIL Wakim was another fellow filled by perps.

Nevertheless, a good time was enjoyed by at least one of us! Thank you, Baylor, Katie, and Mr. Chairman.

SubGenius, my phone has been internet impaired since I returned from vacation. I must have a setting wrong. It doesn't like my home wifi, but it worked fine on wifi in the Verizon store where I went looking for help, and DH's phone has no issues. Bother!

Charlie Echo said...

Seemed easier than most Friday puzzles. The Frawnch threw me for a bit, but I figured out the missing Ns. The theme was a tad lame IMHO. Our local theater was the "Alcyon". One screen, ten-cent popcorn machine, ( you held the little bag over the spout and popped in your dime) ten-cent pop machine, (little paper cup) 25 cents admission (newsreel, 2 cartoons, the latest serial episode, coming attractions, double feature ( Saturdays) and no ads! Gotta find me a time machine somewhere.

unclefred said...

Rats! I managed to FIR a Friday but forgot to note my start time, so don't know how long it took, so can't brag about a Friday FIR. I would guess 15-20 minutes to fill, pen on paper. I thought of a good response to 41A, "Do you know who my father is?" My response: "No, do you?" While I did FIR, this CW is a sea of W/Os: halt/hang, dale/dell, dig/dis, ilsa/elsa, live/loom, don/ron. What a mess! I found 33D to be a particularly difficult clue. I kept wanting "dogsleds" to somehow fit, but no. Anyway, not a bad Friday offering, thanx BG&KH. Thanx too to C.Moe for the terrific write-up, complete with his famous MoeKus.

Misty said...

Interesting puzzle, Baylor and Katie--many thanks for that. And your commentary is always helpful, C-Moe, thanks for that too.

Well, when a puzzle starts out willing to GIVE you something you'll ADORE, you know you're in for a good time. But this one was going to involve a big circle of people, starting with two GALS, ELSA and SUSIE, who each appeared to be a NIECE to their SMART AUNTs and NANAS. This was a BIG DEAL and good LUCK because their relatives VOLUNTEERED to take them in a SIDE CAR to a CANTINA, where they had some RUM, and then to a FRAT party, where, ALAS, the people were SASSY and told the girls to LEAVE ME ALONE. That upset the NANAS who advised them that from now on they had better HANG out with their dates on E-MAILS. Let's hope that was good advice and that the girls will soon start wearing a HALO.

Have a lovely day, everybody.

Jayce said...

I rather liked this puzzle, in spite of not knowing the names ERICA, EMIL, and RON, and in spite of not knowing the brand AVEDA.
CEDES --> GIVES. LILAC --> MAUVE. FATE --> LUCK. WRIT --> LOOM. ALUM--> AUNT. AURA --> HALO. STOP --> HANG.
Good reading you all.

RustyBrain said...

Victor Borge was such a talent, and his routines still hold up today. “One afternoon, when I was four years old, my father came home, and he found me in the living room in front of a roaring fire, which made him very angry. Because we didn't have a fireplace.”

Anonymous said...

You left out RI RI. Somebody needs to call the PO PO on them.

RustyBrain said...

I tried to work my way down to the revealer, but with holes everywhere, I finally gave in. And it didn't help. I saw the word "and' in the middle and tried to parse it as NON ST AND ARD. That lead me on a wild goose chase until I finished the spanner in the middle and had that aha (oho?) moment. Unfortunately, by then I was a little frustrated. So, I agree with our Chairperson's assessment that it felt Friday difficult, but not Friday fun.

Learning moment: Regattas can be any kind of boat race. As an occasional crew member in ocean regattas off the Fla coast, I always assumed that they were sailboat races only. You know what happens when you assume...

SOS are letters of emergency, not urgency.

Jinx in Norfolk said...

When I lived in Atlanta, city police followed a stolen car into the mayor's driveway. Concerned that something was afoot beyond grand theft auto, they arrested the four young men that were in the car. One of them was the mayor's son. To ward off similar problems in the future, city police were banned from patrolling the mayor's street.

Jinx in Norfolk said...

Right. Urgency is indicated by "pan, pan, pan." Of course being nautical, it can't be pronounced the obvious way - it's "pahan, pahan, pahan."