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Nov 25, 2014

Tuesday, November 25, 2014 Peter A. Collins

Theme: Joltin' Joe - A puzzle about Joe on his 100th birthday.

18. 1967 song that asks, "Where have you gone, 60-Across?" : MRS. ROBINSON

24. Nickname for 60-Across, with "The" : YANKEE CLIPPER. He played his entire 13-year career for the New York Yankees.

36. With 39- and 40-Across, length of 60-Across' record hitting streak : FIFTY, 39A. : SIX. 40A. : GAMES

52. 60-Across eloped with her in 1954 : MARILYN MONROE

60. Sports great born 11/25/1914 : JOE DIMAGGIO
Argyle here. I like there is little to take away from the theme. Web Site

Across:

1. Japanese yes : HAI

4. "Get lost, kitty!" : "SCAT!":

8. "The Taking of __ 1 2 3" : PELHAM

14. Suffix with heir : ESS. Heiress.

15. Word after "take it" or before "does it" : EASY

16. Bring into being : CREATE

17. Org. with Red Wings and Blue Jackets : NHL. Hockey

20. Some HDTVs : RCAs

22. When repeated, belittle : POOH. "Oh, bother!"

23. Dutch cheeses : EDAMs

27. Obliged to pay : IN DEBT

28. Industry leaders : BARONS

31. Egg-hiding times : EASTERS

35. Heavy Brit. reference set : OED. (Oxford English Dictionary)

42. Man-mouse connector : OR A

43. Solar phenomenon : SUNSPOT

45. Ice cream seller : PARLOR

48. Freeway no-nos : U-TURNS

56. Rep. and Dem., e.g. : ABBRs. (abbreviations)

58. Sticky substance : GOOP

59. Whence an icicle may hang : EAVE

63. Pro __: for now : TEM

64. Actress Dahl : ARLENE

65. New Rochelle college : IONA

66. Dir. from Fort Worth, Tex. to Fort Lee, N.J. : ENE

67. Undergrounds : METROs

68. NCO rank : SSGT

69. Allowance dispenser, often : DAD. The human ATM.

Down:

1. 12th-century English king : HENRY I

2. Rubbish barrel : ASHCAN

3. Cuba, for one : ISLAND

4. Sch. term : SEM. (semester)

5. Completely covers : CARPETS

6. Part of NCAA: Abbr. : ASSOC. (association)

7. Innsbruck's state : TYROL

8. Banned chem. contaminant : PCB

9. Port SW of Buffalo, N.Y. : ERIE PA. How's that, Abejo?
 
 
10. Mortgage provider : LENDER

11. Is staying overnight (at) : HAS A ROOM

12. Bit of matter : ATOM

13. Clothing department : MEN'S

19. "__ wouldn't say that!" : OH, I

21. Sport invented by hunters : SKEET

25. Site for cyberbidders : EBAY

26. "Downton Abbey" airer : PBS

29. Originally named : NÉE

30. Radical '60s gp. : SDS. (Students for a Democratic Society)

32. Volunteer State sch. : TSU. (Tennessee State University)

33. "Ich bin __ Berliner": JFK : EIN



34. MD's orders : RXs

36. Dandy : FOP

37. 401(k) kin, briefly : IRA

38. Agricultural region : FARM BELT

40. Attend : GO TO

41. Carry __: sing on key : A TUNE

43. Hindu honorific : SRI

44. Action at a well : PUMPING

46. Refrigerator predecessor : LARDER

47. "Twelfth Night" duke : ORSINO. More or less known than Blixen?

49. Not for kids, filmwise : R RATED

50. Nine-day prayer ritual : NOVENA

51. Appeared to be : SEEMED

53. NYC airport : LGA. (LaGuardia)

54. Bear and Berra : YOGIs. Cute.

55. Scrapped missions : NO GOs

56. In __: stuck : A JAM

57. Tiresome sort : BORE

61. Month, in Madrid : MES

62. __ bran : OAT


Argyle


52 comments:

George Barany said...

Thanks, as always, to Argyle for his writeup. Peter Collins, nice puzzle. For what it's worth, there is a very similar theme in today's New York Times, by Jeffrey Wechsler.

There is a wonderful story, which I am sure you can confirm with a few minutes of Google, but I will write it up from memory. Sometime after Joltin' Joe and Marilyn Monroe got hitched, she went off to Korea to entertain the troops. Afterwards, the actress gushed to her basically stoic husband about all the cheers and adulation, essentially claiming that he had never encountered anything like it. He purportedly replied, "Oh yes I have."

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

This probably would have been a bit tougher for me today had I not just finished the similarly-themed NYT puzzle that George mentioned (I wasn't going to mention the puzzle in case somebody was waiting to solve it, but I guess the cat is out of the bag).

Having said that, I still found this to be rather crunchy for a Tuesday, what with ORSINO, TYROL, NOVENA, etc. I also wonder whether everybody else remembered the classic "The Taking of PELHAM 1 2 3" (or its less classic remake, I suppose). Fortunately, I did remember that film and the perps were there to help jog my memory with everything else, so no problems today.

Martin said...

I got JOE DEMAGGIO and MARILYN MONROE but I couldn't quite get MRS ROBINSON or YANKEE CLIPPER. This was a hard Tuesday for me. (I completed Monday's.) I had trouble with LGA (Laguardia) and even had POOP instead of GOOP for a while, knowing it was *probably* not right. (GLUE also makes sense from the clue.) I also had ATM for DAD for a while. Oh and I had ASSCN instead of ASSOC and CASKETS instead of CARPETS.

TTP said...


Good morning all !

Great baseball and anniversary theme by Peter A Collins, and superb write up by bug squasher Argyle.

Baseball fan CC should love this puzzle. She wished that Marilyn had not left Joe.

The Graduate. Mike Nichols. Dustin Hoffman. MRS ROBINSON Anne Bancroft. Katherine Ross. Simon and Garfunkle.

Shout to Abejo at 9D ! Shout out to me at 57D !

That SW was tough for me today. LARDER finally got me going, and helped me see METROS. I was thinking of 6 letter words for caverns. Had and have no clue about actress ARLENE and the same goes for ORSINO. Perps are a good thing.

Speaking of a good thing, time for coffee.

Jerome said...

When the YANKEE CLIPPER burned an Oriole in effigy he built a CAL RIPKEN PYRE.

After entering the service he asked his drill instructor, "Who are you to tell me what to do?" The instructor replied, "I'M A G.I. GOD, JOE!"

I'm way off base, I know. So I'll run home now... on the double.

JCJ said...

I was momentarily IN A RUT but things looked up when I got IN A JAM. Smooth solving from there.

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Started wrong from the get-go. I tried HARALD for 1D, but quickly realized HeirASS wasn't going to make the grade. Then I got slowed down in the SW. I really wanted ICE BOX and tried everything to make that work. LARDER sounds like the place where you'd keep the pig fat.

It seemed there were more than the normal quotient of S plurals today. I'm so observant that if I notice something, it must be glaring!

Argyle, that cat picture looks just like Izzy. There's a folder on my desk that DW labeled: "Documents saved from the paper-chewing marauder!" He's chewing on a throw rug as I type this -- an equal opportunity chewer.

thehondohurricane said...

Howdy,

The Times (LA & NY) puzzles today were two of the easiest I've ever solved. Thank you Joe D, wherever you are. Never did get to see him play in person, but caught a couple of his games on TV at the end of his career. In those days, my focus was solely on the NY Giants.

Excluding the theme clues, everything else was in my wheelhouse today. Guess it will happen on rare occasions for me.

Peter managed to slip in a few other favorites of mine .... YOGIS, ARLENE Dahl (to me she was a knockout), MRS ROBINSON (for obvious reasons). HENRY I (caused the beginning of the War of the Roses and was grand pa to Henry II, one of my favorite English kings. but a lousy father.

Well, it's not even Thanksgiving yet and the weather forecast has already screwed it up. Alas, it's that time of year.

Tinbeni said...

Argyle: Excellent write-up & links.
Since Hondo Hurricane and I are both NY Yankee fans this solve was pretty easy.
A nice send-off puzzle until next Wednesday.

To the great clan of solvers here at C.C.'s wonderful site ...
I wish you the most joyous Thanksgiving Day with your families and friends.

Alas, I will be stuck in Jamaica ...
Though, I believe there will be Sunset Toasts to you ALL from there ...
Cheers!!!

PS Best part of this vacation ... well the obvious ... but NO COMPUTER or PHONE for a week!

Anonymous said...

So untrue.

And this is from someone who knows him.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Jerome, that first anagram does the ol' E to R switcheroo.

Chairman Moe said...

"Puzzling thoughts":

Was a speed run until I got to the SW corner - finally got 56A which perp'd 46 & 47D. Still not seeing how LARDER is a synonym for refrigerator

No ink blots or write overs; no cheats

Questioning the word EASTERS as a plural; could see it as a possessive maybe

MARILYN MONROE and my father shared the exact same birthday, as did ANDY GRIFFITH - June 1 1926.

ERIE PA - kind of in "no man's land" sports wise - I'm sure there are those that root equally for the Buffalo Bills, Cleve Browns and Pgh Steelers. Flying into their airport is a real "thrill"

After Marilyn Monroe died ( she and Joe had long since been divorced ) Joe visited her grave often and left flowers - did so up until he passed

Anonymous said...

To follow-up on TTP's post, I read recently that the late Mike Nichols was looking/listening for a song for his movie, "The Graduate." He heard a song called "Mrs. Roosevelt," and asked Simon & Garfunkel to change the name to Robinson to match the character.

Anonymous T said...

Hi All!

I got to 18a (knew it) and saw the x-ref to 60a. All theme answers were in before I continued with anything else. Alas, ABBRS @56a never came to me ("worthless" was all I could think of :-)) so I have a DNF. (LARDER? someone has to explain please).

I know everyone knows Simon & Garfunkel's "Mrs Robinson" but there's a remake by the Lemonheads. A little faster beat and scenes from The Graduate.

Today is a staycation while I get everything prep'd for The Big Feast. I'll be sure to Toast you TIN daily while you're out.

Cheers, -T

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

My first thought after immediately seeing the theme was, "CC is going to love this one,". I loved it, too, as I have been a Yankee fan since childhood. Did go astray with in a rut/in a jam, ice box/larder and shoo/scat. Pelham was easy as I had read the book and seen the original movie.

Nice job, Peter Collins, and thanks, Argyle, for the review. CSO to Abejo. Erie certainly is a staple in crosswords, isn't it?

Weather looks bad for tomorrow, but not sure yet just how bad.

Have a great day.

Qli said...

Oh POOH; done in by ORSINO. Otherwise enjoyed this puzzle and all the pictures, Argyle.

It won't be long before snow CARPETS our state; it's already started. Just in time for cross-state holiday traveling. POOH again. OH I hope the roads will be okay by Thursday.

Thanksgiving in Jamaica sounds great, Tinbeni!

JD said...

Wonderful Tuesday puzzle!! Loved it.Had no problems, although metros was a surprise. used the perps so. I could grok the clue. Perps filled Orinoco easily... Never heard of him. barons seemed odd, but again, that is my lack of knowledge.

seemed to be lots of 2 word with a single letter beginning: a jam,r rated,u turns, e bay. Have these letters been used in the past to spell out a theme?

Thanks Peter and Argyle for a nice start to my day. The baking begins.....

Lemonade714 said...

What a great day and double tribute to Joe DiMaggio by two classic constructors, here and in the NYT. Mr. DiMaggio was an extremely classy and gracious man, though whose good offices we in South Florida have the Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital which has done wonderful work for children and childhood diseases.

While I was raised as an enemy of the evil empire, I had the pleasure of meeting and speaking with this man on a few occasions and he was a true gentleman.

I enjoyed both puzzles, and the bit of trivia about the song Mrs. Robinson. I also see an element of coincidental tribute to Mike Nichols after his recent death. Thank you Mr. Collins.

Lucina said...

Greetings, puzzlers.

Great grid by Peter A. Collins which even I, a non sports fan, can solve with EASE.

LARDER was EASY as it is often mentioned in period type books as a storage place for food pre electricity.

I laughed very loudly when I saw that ERIEPA was ERIE PA as I had not ever heard of the former.

I have prayed many a NOVENA in my lifetime.

Never heard of ARLENE Dahl? Oh, that's too bad because she was a knockout.

Thank you Argyle and Peter Collins. This was fun.

Have delightful Tuesday, everyone!

CrossEyedDave said...

It took a good long nap to get past icebox, but once I figured out Ice Cream Parlor & committed to "a jam" it came together.

The definition of Larder may be misleading.

Wiki brings it more into focus.

But of course, aliens knew about it all along...

phillyfran said...

Larder, really. Huge baseball fan and I can't solve a Tuesday? Do I need to turn in my pen somewhere?

Hogan said...

Is LARDER the root word for lardass?

Misty said...


Well, this was a bit crunchy for a Tuesday, and I was a bit irked by seeing that it had a sports theme until I got MARILYN MONROE. Then it all fell into place for me. Got a rare TV station ABBR. for "Downton Abbey" since I'm a fan, but found it almost impossible to get the ABBRS for Rep. and Dem. (give me a break!). But I survived and it was satisfying when I got it done.

Family starts coming for Thanksgiving today. Have a wonderful week, everybody!

Anonymous T said...

CED - Thank you! I think now I recall LARDER from a trip to Biltmore in ASHville, NC.

I was prep'ing for a meeting earlier and thusly rude for not thanking Peter A. Collins (initials, PAC? 56a again!) and our Monday/Tuesday host Argyle for their work for our fun and GAMES.

Argyle - only nit on the writeup; yesterday taught us DAD is an ATM-M :-)

Cheers, -T

JJM said...

My dad always said that DiMaggio was the best center fielder he ever saw. Joltin' Joe was way before my time, but seeing the highlight reels… I believe him.

I'm a big baseball fan and because of that
I think undoubtably that this was my favorite puzzle of the year. I love how the constructor fit in FIFTY SIX GAMES across the middle.The only thing that would have made it better was if he could have made that 56A. The MRS ROBINSON clue was a brilliant tie in.

ALL in all a great theme for a puzzle. It was definitely a fun solve!

Anonymous said...

The Latin word for bacon or lard, is "lardum", from which developed a Middle Latin word "lardarium" meaning a "room for meats". This came into English as "larder" to describe a meat storeroom. Over time, our larders stored all types of foods and our fresh meats went into refrigerators.

HeartRx said...

I read the write-up early this morning, but then the day happened. Now I finally have time to read the comments, but everyone had already said my piece.

I did enjoy this one much more than the NYT, because it had MARILYN MONROE and MRS ROBINSON in it. In fact, as soon as I had filled in that last one, I glanced at 60-A and immediately filled in JOE DIMAGGIO. HAH, and they say I'm baseball-challenged...

Anonymous said...

JB in VA
WEES. Had problems in the SW. Wanted ICEBOX first and did not know ORSINA. I did know ARLENE Dahl. I think she appeared on some game shows. So that area was very slow to come.

tawnya said...

hi all!!

been awhile since i contributed but i lurk daily to check on you all. i always learn something about the one or two i WAGed.

i had so much fun with this puzzle, i was sad when i finished! i just finished reading this book about joe dimaggio so i knew the theme questions immediately! yay! i got stuck on ABBRS and LARDER - so red letters helped me "finish." (Why do i always get stuck on things that intersect??)

thank you Peter for the puzzle and Argyle for the write up. and a million thanks to CC for keeping this page going all these years. it really does make the puzzles even more enjoyable.

Steve said...

First time in here. What does "perps" mean, please?

Husker Gary said...

I’m a Grade 6 – 12 PRO-TEM PE teacher today and loved this fun puzzle! BTW, I forgot how much freshmen annoy me.

Musings
-MRS ROBINSON – moviedom’s most famous cougar?
-Pete Rose’s 44 straight are the closest anyone has come to 56 and he hit three line drives the day the streak ended
-Dave Ramsey’s 7 characteristics of DEBT-free people
-We found the last year’s final EASTER egg in August when the wind went to the north one day
-Galileo’s discovery of SUNSPOTS in 1612 was at odds with the Catholic Church’s idea of a perfect heaven
-DAD as an ATM
-Tin is flying over Cuba today. No pix are allowed.
-Two bloggers here has told us we HAVE A ROOM if we vacation in their state!
-Looking forward to DOWNTON this winter as they march further into the 20th century with 19th century ideals
-Joann usually avoids R-RATED movies but loved this political one
-Gotta go throw out the ball! Read y'all later!

TTP said...

I guess LARDER was only easier seen once you had LARD--.

CED provided the references.

I was looking for a Martha Stewart, Julia Child, Alton Brown or or other celebrity chef demonstrating the process of larding meat, and came across this Martha quote.

She says, "With few fresh vegetables and fruits in season, wintertime calls for a new approach to cooking. Look into the pantry for inspiration; if your supplies are running low, our list of pantry basics will help you complete your winter larder."

Barding and larding...

I've barded (think bacon wrapped filet), but never larded with a Larding Needle.

(Mostly) Larded meat images with a few pics of barded meat thrown in...

Back to work for me.

TinoTechie said...

Just checking in to say Thanks to CC and all of the members of the blog for providing this wonderful place to learn about crosswords. I have learned much from reading the blog, and gradually my crossword skills are improving.

Thanks to everyone.

Greg

Anonymous T said...

Hey Steve - welcome! C.C. has an Olio link on the main-page that explains all the ABBRS used here. To save you the trouble, perps are the crosses or perpendiculars that help fill a clue we don't have a clue to. Too bad they didn't help me in the SW today.

Cheers, -T

coneyro said...

Though I rarely comment on this blog, I want to express my appreciation to all who do. As a virtual shut-in, I look forward to the puzzle and everyone's take on it afterward.
I rarely am able to finish an entire puzzle, but it results in a daily learning experience. So all good!
Happy holiday to all of you, and good health!

Chickie said...

HOla Everyone, My entries here on the blog have been few and far between. I've been doing the puzzle while I wait for my husband to have his radiation treatments. I am the designated driver, so will be tied up for 6 more weeks with everyday treatments (except for weekends.) The Dr. is very optimistic about the outcome so, so are we.

I thought the puzzle a bit harder than usual for a Tuesday. My clue for the themed answers came with the clue "60 across eloped with her in 1954." This was big news as I was married that year and Marilyn Monroe was big in Hollywood. However I started out with Yankee Slugger. That didn't work very well. Finally got it changed. "Pehlam" was a complete unknown.

Mrs. Robinson came very easily as I have a friend who is Mrs. Robinson and her license plate is Msrbnsn.

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving everyone. Our Maryland kids will be here as will the rest of our brood. We are looking forward to the day/weekend.

Have a great day everyone.

Spitzboov said...

Good afternoon everyone.

Started out a little clunky, but with the long acrosses baseball connection, the solve accelerated smartly.
Thought Argyle or someone here would expand on the Mrs ROBINSON connection.
Looked up the appropriate lyrics and herewith:

Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio,
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson.
Jolting Joe has left and gone away,
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey

HeartRx said...

HG @ 12:51, I am smiling, because before I clicked on your link about the R-rated movie, I thought to myself, “Charlie Wilson’s War…” and sure enough!

Bill Cosby said...

"Mrs. Robinson" could have been played over the split screen of Obama and fires last night and would have been very apropos. Link Screenshot

"In these days of Presidential transgressions and apologies and prime-time interviews about private sexual matters, we grieve for Joe DiMaggio and mourn the loss of his grace and dignity, his fierce sense of privacy, his fidelity to the memory of his wife and the power of his silence." - P. Simon

Jerome said...

Husker- Add to the list Norma Desmond (Gloria Swanson) in "Sunset Boulevard"

Lemonade714 said...

JB in VA, phillyfan, (newe) Steve and coneyro thanks for stopping by; you are always welcome to put your comments out here.

Tawnya and Tino Techie, thanks for checking in, ewe do like to hear from everyone, especially this time of year.

Chickie, especially good to hear from you and best wishes for the treatments

Lemonade714 said...

Arlene Dahl was a DOLL.

HeartRx said...

Lemony, I don't usually notice baseball memorabilia, but is that an autographed baseball from JOE DIMAGGIO??

Lemonade714 said...

marti, it is indeed a baseball Mr. DiMaggio was kind enough to sign for me. He was such a pleasant man. I am told since he personalized it that it is not valuable but that is okay as I have no intention of ever selling it.

Anonymous said...

A DNF on a Tuesday! Dang! I didn't have time to spend working on the 2 places I had trouble. Enjoyed the puzzle, Peter. Thanks for the expo, Argyle, I needed it today.

I've been a big Simon and Garfunkle fan so MRS. ROBINSON was easy. Knew JOE DEMAGGIO and MARILYN MONROE.

For 43A I confidently put in "eclipse" and that area caused a lot of trouble. Gave up on the SW in order to get some work done.

Have a wonderful holiday weekend.

Pat

Ergo said...

Thank you Argyle and Peter Collins.
Sakes. A crunchy (for me) Monday followed by a DNF Tuesday. NE and SW were the culprits.
The NOVENA to St. Jude has come through for me on more than one occasion.
Most holy Apostle, St. Jude, faithful servant and friend of Jesus, the Church honors and invokes you universally, as the patron of difficult cases, of things almost despaired of, Pray for me, I am so helpless and alone. Intercede with God for me that He bring visible and speedy help where help is almost despaired of. Come to my assistance in this great need that I may receive the consolation and help of heaven in all my necessities, tribulations, and sufferings, particularly - (make your request here)
- and that I may praise God with you and all the saints forever. I promise, O Blessed St. Jude, to be ever mindful of this great favor granted me by God and to always honor you as my special and powerful patron, and to gratefully encourage devotion to you.
Amen

PRAYER

May the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus be adored, and loved in all the tabernacles until the end of time. Amen.

May the most Sacred Heart of Jesus be praised and glorified now and forever. Amen

St. Jude pray for us and hear our prayers. Amen.

Blessed be the Sacred Heart of Jesus
Blessed be the Immaculate Heart of Mary
Blessed be St. Jude Thaddeus, in all the world and for all Eternity.
(say this prayer, followed by the Our Father and the Hail Mary)

Flying Spaghetti Monster said...

What happened to the "no religion" rule?

Pastafarian said...

And the 20-line limit?

Ergo said...

My bad. Attribute it to my status as a relative newbie.

My future posts will be in compliance.

GarlicGal said...

Hello everyone. Thank you CC, once again, for keeping us going!

Here is my Joe and Marilyn story. My sister's FIL worked in the San Francisco city hall in the '50's. He saw them walking into the license office and heard the buzz. He couldn't wait to get back to his office to call his wife with the "scoop"! He remembered them looking very happy.

Fun puzzle! Happy holidays to one and all.

Jilting Joe said...



Hey, Flying Spaghetti Monster - that's not religion, it's just common sense. Lets spread the joy, in our own way.

Its Thanksgiving time - leave the guy alone. Maybe the prayer could help somebody else.

And Pastafarian - did anybody tell you - you're smoking the wrong type of weed ? Man, you've got to change your name and get the real thing, you don't know what you're missing. Colorado, Oregon and Wash state. Remember, remember the first of December.


Lemonade, if you ever want an autographed ball by Jolting Joe without your name on it - give me a call. My handwriting is just like his and could easily go for the real McCoy. Best of all, its free to you.

Oooops twenty lines already - space goes fast when you're having fun.

Blue Iris said...

I wanted to thank C.C. for creating this blog and finding many talented people to help daily. It has helped my mind to be active while stuck at home and I have enjoyed learning new things. The various links have kept me entertained and educated. I thank you all for that.