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Nov 3, 2022

Thursday November 3, 2022, Carly Schuna

 

 Car Talk
An NPR interview with Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers

 

(and a CSO to Picard)

Today's constructor, Carly Schuna, is relatively new, with one puzzle in the NY Times and two in the LA Times.  I can give you no better introduction to this multi-talented person than Husker's review of her March 26, 2022 outing.  BTW it looks like Carly could give CrossEyedDave a run for the money in the cake department.

Today Carly wants to talk cars, one of modern life's necessities.  She does this with 4 punny clues,  each containing the name of a car manufacturer, and then filling with 4 commonly used two word phrases, each beginning with one of the manufacturer's popular models:

17A. Place that showcases certain Fords?: ESCAPE ROOM.  An escape room, also known as an escape game, puzzle room, or exit game, is a game in which a team of players discover clues, solve puzzles, and accomplish tasks in one or more rooms in order to accomplish a specific goal in a limited amount of time. OTOH, a FORD ESCAPE looks like this:

2023 Ford Escape

29A. Beacon that illuminates some Hondas?: PILOT LIGHT.   A pilot light is a small gas flame, usually natural gas or liquefied petroleum gas, which serves as an ignition source for a more powerful gas burner.  OTOH, a HONDA PILOT looks like this:
 
Honda Pilot

46A. Starting line for a race exclusively for some Hyundais?: ACCENT MARK.  Among other uses accent marks, also called diacritical marks, are used  to indicate the correct pronunciation of words to which they are added.  OTOH, a HYUNDAI ACCENT looks like this:

Hyundai Accent

62A. Overall condition of certain Nissans?: ROGUE STATE.  "Rogue state" (or sometimes "outlaw state") is a term applied by some international theorists to states that they consider threatening to the world's peace. These states meet certain criteria, such as being ruled by authoritarian or totalitarian governments that severely restrict human rights, sponsoring terrorism, or seeking to proliferate weapons of mass destruction.  I'm sure everyone can think of at least one ROGUE STATE that has been in the spotlight for the last half year.  OTOH, a NISSAN ROGUE looks like this:

Nissan Rogue

No reveal, circles, or asterisks.  Here's the grid:
 

Let's  see if we can keep this one on the road ...

Across:

1. Minor in astronomy?: URSA.  The BABY BEAR that is.  Given that male bears are cads, URSA MAJOR must be the MAMMA BEAR.

5. Golden St. region: SOCALSOuthern CALifornia.

10. Org. that includes the Sun and the Sky: WNBA.  Here are the WNBA teams.

14. Gravy __: BOAT.

15. Extremely, in slang: HELLA.  Shouldn't this be HELLAVA?

16. Swag: HAUL.  I think the 2nd definition applies here.

19. Marine mammal with the same colors as an Oreo: ORCA. Or  "Confection with the same colors as a marine mammal" could be yet another clue for OREO.

20. Save: RESCUE.

21. Digital covers?: TOE SOCKS.  They keep your piggies warm.

23. Broadcasting: ON TV.  Does anybody watch this anymore?

25. Result of a crash?: NAP.  I'm about to crash.  I think it's time for my NAP.

26. Planets, poetically: ORBS.  I still think Clyde Tombaugh was right.  Hand up if you think there are 9 planets?

35. Diner staple: MELT.

36. Oft-injured knee parts, for short: ACLS.  An ACL injury is a tear or sprain of the anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) — one of the strong bands of tissue that help connect your thigh bone (femur) to your shinbone (tibia).

37. Falcon's 69-Across: AERIE.  Sounds kinda scary to me.

38. In the style of: ALA.  Teri and I visited ALA a year back to attend a wedding.  A beautiful state with friendly, generous people.

39. Heartburn remedy: ANTACID.  IMHO, the best ANTACID is drinking lots of water.

41. Nail-biting NFL periods: OTS.

42. Dharma follower: HINDU.   Dharma is a key concept with multiple meanings in Indian religions, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism and others.  Although there is no direct single-word translation for dharma in European languages, it is commonly translated as "righteousness", "merit" or "religious and moral duties" governing individual conduct.
 

44. Desktop with a Retina 5K display: IMAC.   Sweet! Hand up if you've got one Apple scruffs?

45. Promote aggressively: TOUT.   Thankfully the TOUTING season will be just about over by next Tuesday, followed by the WRANGLING season over what the REAL results were.

48. Gear on a tour bus: AMPS.

49. "Wanted to mention," for short: BTW

50. Ailing: SICK

52. "Ahem": EXCUSE ME

57. Reunion attendees: NIECES.  And 39D AUNTS.

61. Cross off: X OUT.

64. Tollbooth pricing unit: AXLE.  Correlates nicely with the number of wheels and weight, and thus road wear.

65. Nautical units: KNOTSWhy do we need different measures of distance and speed on the ocean?

66. Former Indiana governor Bayh: EVANBirch Evans Bayh III, born December 26, 1955 (not to be confused with his father Birch Bayh, Jr.),  is an American lawyer, lobbyist, and Democratic Party politician who served as a United States senator from Indiana from 1999 to 2011 and the 46th governor of Indiana from 1989 to 1997.
 
Evan Bayh

67. Blue part of blue cheese: MOLDIs it safe to eat moldy blue cheese?

68. Fills completely: SATES.

69. Egg holder: NEST.  If they're high enough they can be pretty EERIE.

Down:

1. Taxi alternative: UBER.  We tried UBER when we attended a wedding in New York, but the traffic was so bad there that we found it was faster to walk or take the subway.  We did have a lot of success with LYFT in D.C.

2. Thorny subject?: ROSE.  Teri likes rosesHere's how to grow them.
Peach Rose

3. Anatomical pouches: SACS.   These containers seem to vary so much in their form and function that I was unable to find an overarching definition for them.  The best I could come up with was this Wikipedia subtopic with a menu of links to different types of sacs.

4. Not without consequences: AT A COST.  A clue is related to the Hindu concept of Karma (see 42A).

5. Ovenware for roasting vegetables: SHEET PAN.

6. Above, in odes: OER.  Perhaps the most famous usage of this word is in the ode to our nation's flag: "O’er the ramparts we watch’d were so gallantly streaming ..."

7. Coagulate: CLOT.

8. __ gobi: potato and cauliflower dish: ALOO.  Here's a recipe for Aloo gobi.  I first learned the word Aloo from Aloo parathas, Indian pastries stuffed with spiced potatoes.   I guess Aloo must mean "potato"

9. Mourn: LAMENTLamentations of Jeremiah - No 1 by Thomas Tallis:


10. __ pie: WHOOPIEYou can make your own.
 


11. DEA agent: NARC.

12. Mets manager Showalter: BUCKWilliam Nathaniel "Buck" Showalter III (born May 23, 1956) is an American professional baseball manager for the New York Mets. Previously, he served as manager of the New York Yankees (1992–1995), Arizona Diamondbacks (1998–2000), Texas Rangers (2003–2006), and Baltimore Orioles (2010–2018).
Buck Showalter

13. Word of woe: ALAS.  See 9D.

18. "I threw away my golf shoes when I got a hole in one," e.g.: PUN.  Or maybe "I like to putter and dig holes" ...

22. Leaves in a bowl: SALAD.

24. Mr. Boddy in Clue, e.g.: VICTIM.   Speaking of PUNS.

26. Missouri River city: OMAHAOmaha is the largest city in Nebraska and the county seat of Douglas County. Omaha is in the Midwestern United States on the Missouri River, about 10 mi (15 km) north of the mouth of the Platte River. The nation's 39th-largest city, Omaha's 2020 census population was 486,051A.  I did one of DAB's puzzles last week and he clued this as "Nebraska city that sounds like a German grandmother's laughter."  Another CSO to Husker.

27. Remnant of the past: RELIC

28. Sauvignon __: BLANC. Sauvignon blanc is a green-skinned grape variety that originates from the Bordeaux region of France. The grape most likely gets its name from the French words sauvage ("wild") and blanc ("white") due to its early origins as an indigenous grape in South West France.  A CSO to CMOE.
 
Sauvignon Grapes

30. Andes animal: LLAMAThe llama is a domesticated South American camelid, widely used as a meat and pack animal by Andean cultures since the Pre-Columbian era. Or the beast in an Ogden Nash poem.

31. Filmdom awards: OSCARS.  Did they give any awards this year?  All I heard about was this:
"The Slap Heard Round the World"

At least Reuters photo-journalist Brian Snyder made some money from it.

32. Husband-to-be: GROOM.  A bridegroom (often shortened to groom) is a man who is about to be married or who is newlywed.

33. Ask (for): HIT UP

34. Battery units?: TESTS.  Here's a battery of tests to determine the usefulness of a battery of tests.

39. Reunion attendees: AUNTS.  And 57A NIECES.

40. Gross feeling: ICKINESS.  "adjective. Informal. Not pleasant or agreeable: bad, disagreeable, displeasing, offensive, uncongenial, unpleasant, unsympathetic. Slang: yucky" - The Free Dictionary

43. Showed for the first time: DEBUTED.  The T is silent. 

45. Relax for a bit: TAKE TEN.  I've only got time to Take Five:




47. Dances suggestively: TWERKS.  I checked out some GIFs, but I don't think Margaret Farrar would approve.

51. Opposite of trans: CIS.   Cistrans isomers are stereoisomers, that is, pairs of molecules which have the same formula, but whose functional groups are in different orientations in three-dimensional space.  The prefixes "cis" and "trans" are from Latin: "this side of" and "the other side of", respectively.  Here's an example of cis-2-butene and trans-2-butene, both colorless gases used in the synthesis of gasoline.

cis-trans isomers

52. Proctor's handout: EXAM.

53. Sentimental sign-off: XOXO.  Hugs and kisses.  The first recorded usage X was in 1763 by a parson Gilbert White.  The origin of O is speculative and more recent.

54. Winnow: CULL.

55. Poet Van Duyn: MONA.  DNK Pulitzer Prize winning poet Mona Van Duyn (1921–2004), the first woman to serve as U.S. poet laureate.  Selected short poems by Mona Van Duyn.

56. Award quartet that includes 31-Down: EGOT.  Here's a list of EGOT winners.

58. Buckle: CAVECAVE is short for CAVE IN,  a synonym for BUCKLE:
59. Airport guesses, for short: ETAS.

60. In the mail: SENT.

63. Shoshonean language: UTEShoshone, also spelled Shoshoni; also called Snake was a North American Indian group that occupied the territory from what is now southeastern California across central and eastern Nevada and northwestern Utah into southern Idaho and western Wyoming.  Their language was one of the Uto-Aztecan languages.  The  State of Utah derives its name from the UTE language.
Shoshone Indian

Cheers,
Bill

As always, thanks to Teri for proof reading and for her constructive criticism.

waseeley

Carly Schuna, you are invited to post anything you'd like to share about this puzzle, its evolution, the theme, or whatever, in the Comments section below.  We'd love to hear from you.


 

50 comments:

unclefred said...

To the surprise of nobody, it took 29 minutes to finally FIR. Nice CW! ICKINESS crossing SICK, AUNTS and NIECES, and lotsa car puns. Fun! I did manage to complete it with no W/Os, so although slow, it finished neat. It was nice to start right off with URSA; it WAGged right in. Thanx for the fun, CS, and thanx for the excellent and fun write-up, Bill.

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Unlike unclefred, d-o needed his trusty Wite-Out to correct ALUMS to AUNTS. Misreading the clue led to EMMY where EGOT needed to go. Both fixed. Interesting to see CULL and SACS in the same puz. Is this a cw DEBUT for ICKINESS? Remember when Jenna Elfman played DHARMA in Dharma and Greg about 20 years ago? No IMAC chez d-o. No, no, no. Thanx Carly and Waseeley.

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

What a fun solve this was! A cute and solid theme, clever cluing, a clean grid, and only eight three letter words! What more could we ask for? Aloo and Mona were unknowns, as was Victim, as clued. I’m familiar with all of the car models except Rogue. I liked the pairings of Aunts and Nieces, Aerie and Nests, and Ala and Alas. Big CSO to HG at Omaha. The difficulty level could have been increased a notch or two but, overall, a very satisfying and enjoyable solve.

Thanks, Carly, for a Thursday treat and thanks, Bill, for another fact-filled review. I really enjoyed the Click and Clack video; their humor and joie de vivre are infectious! Thanks, also, to Teri and apologies for forgetting to acknowledge her contributions to the last two blogs.

Have a great day.

Jinx in Norfolk said...

FIR, but erased retain for RESCUE. DNK TOE SOCKS, SHEET PAN, ALOO, MONA and HELLA.

I got ESCAPE ROOM through ignorance. I confused it with panic ROOM, and filled it right in without giving it another thought.

What kind of piddly band carries their AMPS on the bus? That's what the tractor-trailers are for.

I'm not a fan of WHOOPIE pie. Gimmie a pecan pie or a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie anytime.

As long as Patti is editor, we can guess WNBA for the org for any unknown sports teams.

"OK we can retire EGOT now. Hell's bells, even that dumb ass Jinx knows this one now."

Thanks for the fun puzzle, Carly. My favorite was the clue for ORCA. And thanks to Bill and Teri for another fun tour.

Anonymous said...

Hella???

BobB said...

Oops. The socks vs toe socks.

PK said...

Hi Y'all! Like Agnes, I found some fun in Carly's puzzle despite it taking me 33:31- twice what I spent on the puzzle yesterday. Thanks, Carly, for a auto theme since the new models are now out. Thanks, Bill & Teri for a comprehensive expo.

I was challenged by the upper middle and NE sections. In the NE I couldn't come up with WHOOPIE PIE, WNBA, HAUL, TOE SOCKS, SALAD (for Pete's sake), BUCK, & NAP (as result of a brain crash).

DNK: HELLA, ALOO gobi, MONA.

Tried grieve then waited for enough perps to LAMENT.

Never have I roasted veggies in the oven nor did I call anything a SHEET PAN. Had PAN.

EVAN Bayh was a lucky WAG.

Proud to know OMAHA is on the Missouri River.

IMHO the best ANTACID is drinking a big glass of milk followed with Tums.

HINDU: Wish we knew is Vidwan okay?

Subgenius said...

The Natick of “hella” and “aloo” nearly did me in, and so (nearly) did all those “x’s” in the SW corner, but somehow I got through both alright. Anyway, FIR, so I’m happy.

Big Easy said...

I noticed the cars after ESCAPE & PILOT but ALOO gobi is something new to me. And it crossed the unknown HELLA. Maybe in the U.K. they need to find A LOO after eating it.

SHEET PAN- easy fill but I've only heard or baking pans or cookie sheets.
BUCK, VICTIM for Mr. Boddy, MONA- unknowns today.

Jinx- EGOT, WNBA teams, JAI ALAI- sometimes you have to fill a space but what ever happened to HELOT?

WHOOPIE PIE- heard the term but neve knew it was a real pie you could eat, unlike a MUD PIE.

Anonymous said...

Took me 6:48 to finish my Civic Duty.
(Yeah, it's a stretch, I know.)

I didn't know the poet, the former governor, or the potato & cauliflower dish.

Clever theme.

waseeley said...

PK @7:37 AM I miss Vidwan too. Someone must have some news about him.

KS said...

FIR, but took a WAG with hella. Never heard of sheetpan or aloo gobi, so perps were of no help. Still, hella?

Anonymous said...

WRT the comment on 63D, the Shoshone *are* a North American Indian group. In that it is Native American Heritage month and all, acknowledging that this tribe exists seems appropriate.

waseeley said...

Anonymous @8:29 AM Thanks for reminding us.

ATLGranny said...

Dang! Another FIW due to poor proofreading! My knowledge of cars is pitiful and I blithely wrote in eagle STATE. The perps didn't work but I didn't think about them. The irony is that our daughter drives a ROGUE and I had thought it was a shame that Carly didn't use that car model somewhere! In spite of that, I enjoyed the puzzle, Carly, and look forward to more from you.

Thanks, waseeley and Teri for your helpful review. My last fill was the C in RESCUE, completing that corner. Digital covers had me thinking of music so I prefilled CDS before TOE SOCKS became obvious. My other WO was putting the wrong AXel first.

I happened to catch the last half of the amazing World Series game last night and thought how happy AnonT must be. Anyone else?

Have a pleasant day, everyone!

CanadianEh! said...

Thursday test run. Thanks for the fun, Carly, and waseeley and Teri.
Officially a DNF today, although I did get the Car theme.
My downfall was in the NE. BUCK and ALOO required a trip to Google; that gave me TOE SOCKS which is a rather strange name to me (although self-apparent). Apparently besides being a style statement, they can help with toe and foot alignment.
They were not part of the theme (52A wasn’t either), although I thought at first that they might be by the length and placement (but no ? In the clue).

I thought of Loot before HAUL sweetie before WHOOPIE, ON air before TV, fiancé before GROOM, Alums before AUNTS.
Those leaves aren’t tea but lettuce. I also toyed with Tipped (if leaves was a verb), but it wouldn’t fit and tense was present not past.
NAP clue was tricky, but my favourite was for URSA.

Wishing you all a great day.

Ray - O - Sunshine said...

FIR with a lot of headscratching to complete the NE ...and nonsense in the mid west... I hadda sort out and correct Osage/OMAHA, alums/AUNTS (DO), cuz what kyna car is a Hyndai Ecceut 😳

Who says HELLA? Have we had ALOO Gobi before? (A Brit might need a loo, 😄 Big E.)

Finally remember and in the correct order the acronym EPOT. Tempted to put pumpkin pie between Halloween and Thanksgiving..Swag must refer to the HAUL from a swag bag? TOESOCKS? SHEETPAN? (agree PK)

ORCA and Oreo...same colors, same number of letters, first 2 identical, one you eat, the other eats you....😱 or...could it Mal Man, our marine mammal, in a zebra costume? 🦓

Lead Vocalist & lyricist....AXLE ROSE
Deputy Fife was often tied up in...KNOTS
Formic is actually _____ ....ANT ACID
Elliot's nasty brother...ICKYNESS
It's all in French...TOUT

Off tomorrow, traveling east for the weekend to the commonwealth of Massachusetts to see grandkids. What the "Car Talk" Tapper Bros called Meh ...🚘

Lucina said...

Hola!

WEES.
Thank you, Carly for this interesting puzzle. I had no idea about HELLA or ALOO but perps did.

Instead of SHEETPAN I call it a COOKIE SHEET. It's what I use to bake cookies.

I am an AUNT to many NIECES and nephews. Also grands.

I woke up too early so I'm returning to bed.

Have a beautiful day, everyone!

Anonymous said...

Greetings~ Thought this was a good Thursday puzzle. Challenging but doable. Thanks to Carly and to Bill for the review.
Natick 8D / 15A. Guessed right with an "L". Had to change TEST to EXAM (52D) and MILE to AXLE (64A). Comment to Bill: Yes, I watch TV, mostly HGTV & Magnolia with a few random shows elsewhere. Not into movies, and no interest or services for streaming, but I read 2 newspapers a day, so my entertainment hours are full!

Monkey said...

Because I stubbornly held on to TEST for EXAM, I didn’t finish. I did like the fun car clues. I loved listening to “Car Talk”. I wonder if they are still on. The NE corner gave some pause at first because I hesitated when I got PIE thinking surely the word is in the clue so not possible. I’m not familiar with WHOOPIE pie. Then ALOO and HELLA were guesses. All in all I’m happy.

I don’t know if we can stand another perfectly gorgeous day. Cool nights and sunny warm days are my kind of weather. Rain in the forecast for this weekend, boo! But we need it.

Husker Gary said...

Musings
-Our Wisconsin circus performer/trainer never fails to amaze. I thought the cluing and fills were amazing. Even ALOO/HELLA went quietly
-Slang from younger constructors continues apace. HELLA is indeed short for “Hell of a”. I sent an old picture to my 51 yr. old daughter yesterday and she replied, “Adorbs”.
-Watch TV? Yes, in this house, but not the networks.
- I really liked 69. Egg holder: NEST/37. Falcon's 69-Across: AERIE.
-AT A COST brings Joe Hardy and his soul to mind in Damn Yankees
-BUCK is second on the list of “Most Games Managed Without A Championship.” Dusty Baker is first on that list but may break through with Houston this fall.
-Kids always HIT UP teachers to buy something for their fund raisers
-My mother-in-law regularly CULLED out non-laying chickens. She called them “clucks” because, like some politicians, they do a lot of “clucking” but do not fulfill their main purpose.
-New models? They all look the same!

Anonymous said...

FIR but I had a bumpy ride with ESCORT which didn’t fit until ESCAPE came to me. Never heard of a Whoopie pie…

Anonymous said...

Note to Big Easy: Whoopie Pies are not pie, they're a double layer soft cookie with a cream filling, famous in the Pennsylvania Dutch area (and I've heard Massachusetts). They come in multiple flavors.
And as to "sheet pan" same cookware as the cookie sheet, but popular on cooking shows for roasting a whole meal (meat & veggies) together.

Wilbur Charles said...

FLN, enjoyed the Carol and Julie Big D duet. Then there were several more to fill close to an hour

I has SteelPAN hence tELLA for an FIW on the easiest xword of the week . Who was it that said "If it looks wrong it probably is wrong"

I had alum/AUNT and hype/TOUT as messy inkovers. Yes, I got out Tuesday and found an inset. Still haven't solved Sunday, was it a good one?

Had a duo Dr visit Tuesday and he proscribed antibiotics hence my trip to Publix and a trip to Dominos. I get thin crust Hawaiian. I like spinach but just putting spinach leaves on top and baking doesn't cut it. They should be tossed in boiling water first or use frozen

Before Nissan named the car I named the nutcase drivers ROGUE. MAD Ave influences it

WC

Lucina said...

Cooked spinach? I've only ever eaten it in a SALAD. I'll have to ask Alexa about that; she seems to know everything.

I slept for about 20-30 minutes and I'm ready to face the world. Grocery shopping today and, of course, Alexa has my shopping list.

Heaven help me if my phone isn't charged!

CrossEyedDave said...

Hmm,

Wees, specially hella/aloo...
I'm not sure why, but this Natick evokes thoughts of possible alternate clueing.
From my wheelhouse, (I was thinking, always a dangerous endeavour.)
Perhaps, 15 across: when combined with 8 down, a Tigger greeting...
(Ellipses for emphasis)
Unfortunately it wouldn't work, as research shows it sounds more like a Pooh greeting.
But you have to admit, as far as Naticks go, it has to be one of a kind...

As far as the theme goes,
I think it it rife with problems...

You see, Honda pilots don't fly very well...

And why you would want to put marks on your Hyundai Accent is beyond me...

And lastly, would you really want to meet one of these on the road?

Picard said...

Bill Seeley Thank you for the CSO, but I am not sure I understand? Do the CAR Talk guys have an MIT connection?

NE quite a challenge with unknown TOE SOCKS, WHOOPIE PIE, BUCK and WNBA. Managed to WAG to FIR.

I actually do eat ALOO GOBI on occasion. I ask them to leave out the POTATOES. The white part of a POTATO has the same glycemic index as refined white sugar. I'd rather eat chocolate cake, which is a bit healthier. People should know this.

One time I was in Los Angeles and happened upon the OSCARS by accident!

DHARMA has a different meaning in the Buddhism study group I have attended for about 14 years. People can spend their entire lives trying to advance on the path to enlightenment, which is beyond words or concepts or even thinking. DHARMA is the conceptual approximation to what one aims for. DHARMA won't get you there, but it points to what you will find there.

TTP said...

Thank you, Carly, and thank you Bill

FIR in the very early morning hours. Finally got back to sleep, then slept late. Don't remember much, except that with -EST in place at 69A, I placed the cursor in the blank position and returned my attention to the movie I was watching. When I returned, I promptly entered an r due to the intersecting clue "Relax a bit". Oh wait, the clue for 69A was "Egg holder"

Gotta run

Wilbur Charles said...

I started reading blog early and fell asleep. So I didn't notice that some found it difficult.

My assessment of difficulty doesn't fit the norm. Nothing about me does.

BTW I used to enjoy the Clapits on NPR on Sat mornings.

WC

Anonymous T said...

Hi All!

FLN
I got so caught up in the NO-NO (2nd no-hit in WS history!) that I failed to post how much I loved C.C.'s puzzle and mb's review.
Gilroy was the closest college chums could afford when they moved to work in Silicon Valley. The whole town smelled like grandma's kitchen.

Thanks Carly for today's PUNny delight. Thanks waseeley for the detailed review.

WO: Alums->AUNTS
ESPs: ALOO, BUCK, MONA
Fav: EXCUSE ME [Steve Martin - 0:07]

Civic Duty? Nice @8:00a.

YR - I use a SHEET PAN (I have 5) for INA Garten's Roasted Brussels Sprouts a few times a month. Yummers!

Ray-O: My kids say it about the above Sprouts: "Those are HELLA good."

Lucina - my cookie sheets are non-stick and used ONLY for cookies. Cooked Spinach. FWIW - growing up, it was always cooked. I didn't have raw spinach until much later in life.

Tante Nique - Tom died in '14. Some stations played "Best of" for a few years but I can't find it now. Ray still contributes to the newspaper column and I recently saw him in a commercial for something (eBay Motors?).
Picard - They broadcast from WBUR in Cambridge [our fair city], MA. Tom and Ray are both MIT alumni.

Back to work. Cheers, -T

Unknown said...

For anyone who has not had aloo gobi yet, you are missing out! Definitely give it a try if you can. My favorite Indian dish is mutter paneer, though, so maybe I should put that one in my next puzzle.

The sheet pan discussion is interesting. I do not consider a sheet pan the same as a cookie sheet -- the sheets I bake cookies on have no lips or rims, but a sheet pan to me always has rims. I wonder if this is regional!

ATLGranny said...

Unknown @ 12:14 PM

About SHEET PANS, I have several of them, all with four rims, as well as some older cookie sheets with only one rimmed edge. Cooking shows made sheet pans popular when they started roasting vegetables and such. The edges keep oil and juices in the pan. Cookies bake drier than meat and vegetables and can be baked in either type.

Anonymous said...

Not too hard for a Thursday, but had a few problem areas, same as have been mentioned already. Thanks, Carly, for the morning workout! Thanks, Waseely, for the great write-up!

Alum/AUNT, loot/HAUL, hash/MELT. Maybe I should check the perps before I enter my answer.

I drive a 2010 Escape Hybrid, a friend loves Pilots and is on her fourth or fifth, a fellow volunteer drives a Rogue so those names came easily.

Tomorrow I will roast a pork tenderloin with potatoes, onions and Brussels Sprouts in a blue enamel roaster instead of a SHEET PAN. I have one but haven't used it for years.

I used to enjoy the Click and Clack column in the paper but haven't seen it for years.

Another beautiful day. DH is mowing the grass and mulching the leaves. Maybe for the last time this season? Enjoy your day!


Monkey said...

Thanks -T. I just lost track of the funny guys. Now that you mention it I remember hearing about Tom’s having died.

AltGranny: you know your sheet pans. I use mine without edges for scones, turnovers, etc. I’ve never made cookies.

waseeley said...

Picard @11:54 AM Here's a newsletter from M&T about a commencement speech they gave in 1999. It has lots about them, including their majors (not what you'd expect).

Unknown @12:14 From your comments, it sounds as if you must be Carla. I'm grateful for having had the privilege of reviewing your puzzle. My favorite Indian dish is also "peas and paneer". We got the recipe (and many others) from "The Yogi Cookbook", by Yogi Vitaldas and Susan Roberts. Sri Vitaldas was in the 2nd wave of Indians to arrive in the US in the mid-60s (the first being the great Paramahansa Yogananda in 1920). Vitaldas taught not only Yoga, but also the benefits of vegetarian cooking. As many of the typical ingredients in Indian dishes weren't available in NYC, he told you how to make them. Paneer, like most cheeses is fermented, but he made it from boiled milk soured with lemon juice and drained in a cheesecloth bag. The cheese was then rolled into balls and deep fried in peanut oil before adding them to the peas, tomatoes, onions etc sauteed in ghee. I still have two copies of the book, one of which had the covered chewed off by one of our labs. I think it was the smell of the ghee that drove him to it.

waseeley said...

Carly @12:14 PM Sorry, make that Carly!

Misty said...

Complicated but enjoyable Wednesday puzzle, Carly--thank you very much. And thank you, as always, for your helpful commentary, Waseeley.

Carly, the words in your puzzle just HIT UP the poet in me:

EVAN quickly left his ESCAPE ROOM,
determined to get home and be a GROOM.
His bride came from a ROGUE STATE
but he still wanted her to be his mate.

So he invited his NIECES and AUNTS
and went out and bought some plants,
and then decided to TAKE TEN
before picking up his best men.

The wedding was a big success
and everyone did this RESCUE bless.
And EVAN and his bride are now at home in their NEST,
feeling that this day has been their best.

Ol' Man Keith said...

waseeley comments on a Schuna PZL...

DNF because I didn't know 12D. That left the NE corner undone. Otherwise, this was fun to do, with much de-coding needed for tricky clues.
~ OMK
____________
DR:
Two diags, one per side.
The near-side diagonal's anagram (10 of 15) offers an infantile exclamation, too inane for me to add a comment.

"CACA COCK-UP"!

Jayce said...

Nice puzzle. I enjoyed the cars.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Cool poem, Misty!
Brava!
A new laureate on the rise?!
~ OMK

Wilbur Charles said...

I was going to ask "Has anybody ever heard of SHEET PAN and Anon-T answered. I thought people just used aluminum foil

One obscurity re. Click and Clack: There was a Sports show called Cliff(Keane) and (Larry) Claflin Origins of Tapits

"I used to enjoy the Click and Clack column in the paper" Now there's some thing new. Pat, what newspaper?

"chewed off by one of our labs" Ah, LABradors. I read LAB Rats. The ubiquitous chewing of rats I'm very familiar with

WC

Lucina said...

Misty:
What a lovely poem! Is that your first or have you written poems before? You have hidden talents! Hidden from us, that is.

I have cookie sheets with rims and some without rims. I haven't baked cookies in a long time but when I do, I use all of them. Neither Mark nor I eat cookies any more, but with the holidays approaching I'm sure I'll bake some for the family. Sigh. I won't even order my fruit cakes, which I love.

Anonymous said...

WC: In 1989 the brothers started the column titled "Click and Clack Talk Cars" and I read it in the Cincinnati Enquirer. I have no idea when the paper dropped it. After Tom died in 2014 Ray renamed the column "Car Talk". Anon-T @12:10 mentioned that Ray still contributes to the column but I have no idea where it appears.

Jayce said...

Cool poem, Misty.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Wlbur ~

And here I thought SHEET PAN was a version of Chevy's SILVERADO.

~ OMK

Ol' Man Keith said...

Lucina ~

Misty
treats us to poetry every day on the Jumble blog. Check her out daily @ http://jumblehints.blogspot.com

~ OMK

Yellowrocks said...

I use a sheet pan to oven roast asparagus,Brussels sprouts, cauliflower florets, zucchini, eggplant. Bell peppers, carrots, usually with OVOO andl

sumdaze said...

FIR but I do not know much about cars so that made it a Thurs.-level difficulty for me.
Hand up for Alums before AUNTS
Thanks, Carly and Waseeley!

Michael said...

It's not just a generational thing ... my kids, all completed in the California Bay Area, all said "HECKA." Never heard of 'hella' until this xwrd, so it seems that there is also "regionalized generationalism" afoot. (And just when I thought the other looniness was dying down -- something else to get confused by.)

Anonymous T said...

Misty - what a treat! Fantastic prose, you.

Pat - I don't know which rags it still runs in (not my H-Chron) but you can read the bi-weekly at Dear CarTalk.

Who else bit their nails to the quick watching Game 5? Oy!
I'm elated it ended the way it did but, even if it went opposite,.. HELLA Game!*
//HG - Bohm did alright. You tell your former student he needs to button his jersey :-)

Cheers, -T
*Michael - maybe your kids in the NoCAL Bay were taught not to curse(?) :-)