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Oct 16, 2010

Saturday October 16, 2010 Barry Silk

Theme: None

Total words: 72

Total blocks: 28

Quite low black square count. One letter V away from being a pangram.

Barry framed this puzzle with 12 ten-letter entries, triple-stacked in each quadrant:

5A. Younger partner : JESSE JAMES. The Younger brothers. Four Js in the grid, two in this fill alone.

16A. Field for bug bugs : ENTOMOLOGY. I used to confuse it with etymology.

18A. They need to be transcribed : STENO NOTES

58A. Networking asset : SHARED FILE. Gorgeous entry.

62A. Scotch part? : PINE NEEDLE. Not familiar with Scotch Pine.

64A. Agent's accounts : SPY STORIES

1D. Southwestern national park, or the primary plant that grows there : JOSHUA TREE. This is a theme answer in Jerome's tease puzzle, with JOSH embedded in front.

2D. Apparent : OSTENSIBLE

3D. Strength-training exercises : ISOMETRICS. No idea. It strengthens an isolated area?

30D. Three-time U.S. Open champ : TIGER WOODS. Nailed it.

31D. He played Max Bialystock in "The Producers" : ZERO MOSTEL. Nailed it as well, since I got the crossing TZU easily.

32D. Act diplomatically : USE FINESSE.

A typical Silk puzzle. Long & scrabbly answers. Several baseball references as well, including his home team.

Across:

1. Bring together : JOIN

15. Bone, to Benito : OSSO. Osso Buco = Bone with a hole.

17. USAF plane for limited runways : STOL (Short Takeoff and Landing). Drew blank again, Dudley!

19. Surgical instrument that stops bleeding : HEMOSTAT. Hemo is prefix for "blood".

21. Ice cream choice : QUART. Was thinking of flavor.

22. A, in Arles : UNE

23. Crime show in its 11th season : CSI. "Crime" hint was a big help.

24. Modem speed unit : BAUD. Kept reading "Modern speed unit".

26. "Per ardua ad __": RAF motto : ASTRA. Literally "Through Adversity to the Stars".

28. Pope before Paul V : LEO XI. Educated guess.

30. Lao-__ : TZU. It's Lao-Zi in Mandarin Chinese. Literally "Old Master".

33. Bitter outburst : TIRADE

35. 2008 World Series champs : PHILLIES. Barry made a tribute puzzle to celebrate the win.

37. Baseball stats : RBIS

38. Small opening? : MICRO. As in microscope.

40. Fiend : OGRE

41. Stiff's nickname : EL CHEAPO. I was picturing a priggish old woman.

43. Formed from : MADE OF

45. Some MIT grads : EES

46. Screams : RIOTS

48. Manhattan Project notable : FERMI (Enrico). 1938 Nobel Winner in Physics.

49. Forward : BOLD

50. Result in a roped-off area, briefly : TKO. Boxing.

52. Earned : WON. Oh, as in earned/won the trust.

53. Equally hot : AS MAD. I had different "hot" in mind.

56. Cobra-killing carnivore : MONGOOSE. Was ignorant that it feeds on cobra.

61. Scribbles : JOTS

63. Sidewalk sale items : ADES

65. Bikini component : ISLE. No bra. Just Bikini Atoll.

Down:

4. Court plea, briefly : NOLO. Nolo contendere.

5. Kids : JESTS

6. Necessitate : ENTAIL

7. Proof mark : STET. "Ignore the change" mark.

8. Didactic term of address : SON. Nice clue.

9. Expressive rock genre : EMO. Three letter rock genre has to be EMO. Dark stuff.

10. Flower in the amaryllis family : JONQUIL. No idea. See here. Dictionary says it's rooted in Latin juncus, meaning "rush".

11. Voiced : ALOUD

12. Manny with 150 career pinch hits : MOTA. Totally unknown. See this photo. #11. Dodgers. Did you get it immediately, Bill?

13. Hungarian wine region : EGER. Well, maybe Jazzbumpa knows.

14. Part of SSS: Abbr. : SYST

20. Large number : SCAD. And 55. Myriad : MANY.

24. Quantum physics pioneer : BOHR (Niels). Nobel Physics 1922.

25. Accepted principle : AXIOM

27. Impetuous : RASH

29. Disney acronym : EPCOT

34. Spam, at times : EMAIL

36. Rich supply : LODE

39. 2001 high-tech debut : IPOD. That early?

42. Like wind and surf : ERODENT

44. Clueless, after "in" : A FOG

47. 1966 U.S. Open champ Fred : STOLLE. Tennis. I drew a blank. Just knew it's can't be Couples. Fred Couples has never own US Open.

49. Discloses : BARES

51. Places for pads : KNEES. And MIDI (56. It covers the 51-Down). Did you want PADS?

53. Ancient royal symbols : ASPS. Ancient Egypt.

54. Crow's-nest sighting : SHIP

57. Resort NNE of Ventura : OJAI. Man, this has become a popular city in Xword.

59. __ gratias : DEO. "Thanks be to God".

60. French iron : FER. No idea. Fer-de-lance = Iron of the lance. Strange name for a snake.

Answer grid.

C.C.

53 comments:

Argyle said...

Good Morning,

To paraphrase Jessi Colter's lyrics: "I'm not Dennis, my name is Argyle".

My big snafu was the Southwest and left me with one burning question: Is my computer mouse an e-RODENT?

Lemonade714 said...

Saturday and the living is easy:

Hey, Barry Silk is such a wonderful challenge, with many fresh parts, and a bit of arcane knowledge that fits what I know. I am sure not many others remembered Fred Stolle one of the Australians who controlled tennis in the 60’s with John Newcombe, Tony Roche, Roy Emerson, Pod Laver, Neale Fraser and Bob Hewitt. Fred was most famous for his play in doubles. ENTOMOLOGY was a big help in getting me going, then came JESSE JAMES and I was motoring. Thought the [scotch] PINE NEEDLES was great, and who can forget ZERO MOSTEL in the original Producers .

Speaking of mongoose, have you read Rudyard Kipling’s RIKKI TIKKI TAVI ?

There has been ISOMETRIC EXERCISE for centuries, as part of Yoga and other systems, though it is not universally accepted as being LONG TERM beneficial.

off to play

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

This one really brutalized me. The NE corner was bad enough, what with MOTA and EGER crossing STENONOTES, but at least I got through it unassisted.

I wish I could say the same about the SW corner, where everything just went off the rails completely. I did not know STOLLE, put in EROSIVE instead of ERODENT (which made me think that 53A ended with AS instead of began with it), had MAXI instead of MINI and also had LAND instead of SHIP. And all of this was compounded by the obscurity of SHAREDFILE, PINENEEDLE and SPYSTORIES. In the end, I just couldn't get it done.

Thanks again for all the kind words and thoughts about my dad. I spent the day with him yesterday (along with one of my brothers, my sister and sundry other friends and relatives). He was fully awake and in good spirits, and by the end of the day they had moved him out of the ICU and into a private room down the hall. He's not out of the woods by any means, since his heart is still very damaged and weak and they still haven't diagnosed/addressed the underlying cause of the heart attack, but it was such a relief to be able to talk and joke and laugh with him.

Lemonade714 said...

Great news, BG. Every day is another gift, I hope you get to share many more.

Tinbeni said...

C.C. Very informative write-up.
Without your info I would have stared at JONQUIL & STOLLE and just thought WTF?

Silk usually kicks my ass.
But like my NY Yankees (aka 'The Evil Empire') last night, just when I thought it was over, I made a come-back.

And wouldn't you know it, it was because of
62A, Scotch part, PINE NEEDLE.
Of course I was thinking 'Large pours'.

Back in college we had another use for that HEMOSTAT (and we did inhale).

Well it's time to take the BOD to the gym. ISOMETRICS will play a small part, "pushing tin" (what I call the weights) a large part.

Splynter said...

Morning all,

Ugh, I had the same problems as Barry G ( good will to your dad ) and wanted EROSIVE, or ERODING, but ERODENT?
Yeah, Argyle, I think my mouse is an e-RODENT, too !!!

I feel Agent's Accounts could have used a ?, more so than even Scotch Part, because I am familiar with a Scotch Pine, but with the ?, made me start looking for a liquor reference (and Scotch was on Modern Marvels last night, which might have had some influence).

BERG, FLOE, LAND, yes, SHIP, not so much...

Hate vague foreign word references, such as "FER" - I get it, but still....

And I am disheartened, because I nailed ENTOMOLOGIST, OSTENSIBLE, JOSHUA TREE, TIGER WOODS, ZERO MOSTEL, USE FINESSE, but the SW was unfinished until red letter.

WAG was LEO VI, close enough to LEO XI, and WHITE SOX had enough to change into PHILLIES - sorry, I am a hockey guy, not a baseball fan....

Now I have to start my weekend bummed out because I couldn't get this without "cheating"....

Rrrrr...

Good day to all !!!

Splynter

Spitzboov said...

Good Morning everyone. Nice informative write-up, C.C.

A Silky Saturday! And a pretty good tour de force. Twelve 10-letter stacks filled with mostly ordinary words; and the perps as well. ENTOMOLOGY and UNE were gimmes. HEMOSTAT was a good guess. Thought MICRO, QUART, and MIDI were cleverly clued. Liked EL CHEAPO, too.

MONGOOSE - a relative of the meerkat.

BarryG, Good news about your Dad. Hope he keeps improving.

Enjoy the weekend.

Bob said...

I was doing OK until I hit a wall in the SW corner. After 20 minutes of staring at it and getting nowhere, I looked up STOLLE at 47D, but even that didn't help. Gave up after 50 minutes, and now that I see the solutions for the SW corner, I doubt I would have figured it out on my own. I wanted MAXI for 56D and didn't even think about MIDI. I had FER at 60D, KNEES at 51D, and BARES at 49D, but never solved 53A, 58A, 62A, 64A, 53D, 54D, 55D, 42D, 59D, or 56D. I know I've never seen ERODENT. I wanted EROSIVE there and couldn't think of anything else. It's rare when I can't finish one, but this one got me.

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, Fortunately JOSHUA TREE in the NW gave me a start. JESTS, ENTAIL and STET led me to JESSE JAMES in the other corner.

I've been a ZERO MOSTEL fan for quite a while and TIGER WOODS (around our house) was a gimme.

Sadly, t'were the SW what done me in. SHARED FILE, PINE NEEDLE and SPY STORIES crossing with ERODENT, MIDI and STOLLE were all beyond my capabilities.

I had to come here to see what I had missed. I didn't feel too bad because those were darn tough fill.Barry Silk was on the top of his game.

If anyone is interested in the original short story, "Rikki-tikki-tavi" is printed in its entirety here. Kipling's Jungle Book characters were always so believably anthropomorphic. I enjoyed rereading it after (maybe 60 years) such a long time.

Mikey said...

I got murdered in the SW corner, but after seeing the previous comments I don't feel quite so bad. I tried for a long time to make EROSIVE or ERODING work, but ERODENT? give me a break. FER was pretty easy, thanks to James Bond, who won some big bucks playing chemin de fer, and of course the Musée Français du Chemin de Fer, a must-see for railroad fans. After many years in the networking business, I wasn't sure if I should feel ashamed or insulted by missing SHARED FILE, even when I had .....DFILE in place. Had to admit at the end that PINE NEEDLE was excellent -- I was properly ashamed on that one.

kazie said...

Barry G,
Great news, may it keep coming!

Enjoyable Saturday for once, though I had plenty of problems. Lots of WAGS and g'spotted quite a few: MOTA, BAUD, PHILLIES, STOLLE. Some of the names were quite obscure and others easily guessable.

I also was thinking of flavors for QUART at first, and wanted JUNK for ADES until perps denied it. Had always thought it was Scotch Pine rather than SCOTS, so that held me up for a while too. For STIFF I had a corpse in mind, until the EL suggested something else.

But at least I got it all for the first time in weeks!

creature said...

Good Morning C.C. and all,

Similar experiences with Barry,Bob and anyone else who based the SW on a real word 'erosive'.
'Erodent'-really? A word? not in my dictionary[Miriam Webster]; IMO,
that's as close to a 'made-up' word as it gets- possible baloney.

I accept the three name look- ups and even 'EMO', whatever that means, but I'm digging in my heels until someone shows me otherwise on 'Erodent'.

It actually may be a puzzle spoiler for me,and I usually like Barry's long and colorful works.

Maybe he can reference this and again my heart can sing. I'm at a moment of a 'trust' issue. I'd like to be able to work a puzzle, believing all are real words. If I'm wrong, then I will rejoice!

Barry,Help!Thanks for your effort,anyway.

Barry,G.- great news! I'm so glad you have some quality time with your Dad.

Have a nice day everyone.

Jerome said...

Mornin' C.C. and Crucigangster comrades.
I had no doubt that there would be comments about the SW corner. The clue "Scotch part" for PINE NEEDLE was a bear to decipher. Terrific puzzle though. Certainly the toughest in a long while. But it's fun to match wits with the writer. However, there were times when I came up with some choice names for the author other than Barry.

Anonymous said...

where is CC's strongman?

Vidwan827 said...

This week --- I 'devoured' 2 books - on crosswords, - Newmans Cruciverbalism and Amy Reynaldo's book - and what I learnt mainly, was - KEEP away from Saturday puzzles - if you know whats good 'fer you.... or the devil will take your soul !

But ... my masochistic brain thought otherwise - so I tried to see if I could get 4 out of the 6 three letters words, at least - And I did.... and I retire happy...

As Lemonade, so wisely pointed out, Rudyard Kipling was a glorious writer - and his versification and poems were fan-tabulous. I have many. many books of his - and I read him at least once or twice a year .... although I still think of him as the epitome of a colonial, imperialistic b------ !! ( Ironically, Wiki lists him as the first 'Indian' to win a Nobel Prize for Literature... since he was born and bred, for 6 years at least, in India, and lived there in his formative early career,( for 6 years ... ) till he was 30 yrs old, ... India still being a british colony at the time ...).

Rikki Tikki Tavi ( part of a bigger collection of stories ... The Jungle book, 1894 ) is still a wonderful story... and can be read ONLINE ... ... although it depicts all indian natives as being slightly devious and somewhat mentally deficient sub-humans ... to be fair, this concept was fairly prevalent at the time ... and Mr. Kipling only kept up with the 'times' - like Mark Twain - another writer, I greatly admire.

BTW, I DO NOT mean to imply that Mark Twain, a true american, brilliantly humorous writer, was a racist - although some of the terms he used, are not politically correct, in the times today. Mark Twain was truely brilliant.

Enough rant. Enjoy the weekend.

Great blog CC, I LEARNT a lot ... Thank you, and God bless you.

HeartRx said...

Good Morning C.C. et al.

Thanks for the insights, C.C. I didn't get 30A TZU at all. I wanted "tse" or something. Thanks for the explanation!

I liked Argyles clue for 42D "Computer mouse?" better than the one Barry Silk gave us. LOL And why not? We have e-zine, e-mail, e-date, e-store, e-date and other e-things ad nauseam, so E-RODENT makes perfect sense!

I'm so glad you had a chance to spend time with your dad, BarryG. Moving out of ICU is a really good sign, and it sounds like his spirits are high -- very important in the healing process.

Have a lovely day everyone - here it is windy and cold, but at least the sun is out, so I'm not going to complain at all. The days are getting too short to be spent under clouds!

Jerome said...

ERODENT- Every dictionary isn't going to contain every word that exists. My Merriam-Webster's doesn't have Erodent either, but that doesn't mean it's not a real word. There's plenty of other sources that show that it is, including 6,500 Google hits. Taking this into consideration, and the fact that it's a Saturday puzzle, I think using it is fair.
I entered EROSIVE too, and doing that really screwed up my solving time. Ultimately, however, that's my fault and not the author's.

Clear Ayes said...

Every site I checked... ERODENT: "A medicine which eats away extraneous growths; a caustic."...over and over and over again...... Finally at Word-nik an acceptable definition for the fill, "2. Producing erosion; erosive."

Barry G. I was pleased to hear that your father has gotten through that first difficult period. We're all hoping he continues to improve.

carol said...

I didn't do today's puzzle but wanted to tell Barry G how glad I was to hear that his father is improving. I know he has a long ways to go, but a loving family and friends around him will help so much. I hope they find the cause, that will help his future.

Anonymous said...

utterly ridiculous puzzle.

creature said...

C.A.- Because of your extreme effort, I will rest my case. Thanks!

A rescue by the skin of his teeth.

Lemonade714 said...

Vidwan27 thank you for your cultural insight, and yes the times do change, and good writing often reflects societal stereotypes. As a mystery aficionado, I know the original title of Agatha Christie's Ten Little Indians and remember Rex Stout and Too Many Cooks also.

I really enjoyed the puzzle and thought it was easier than most of his Saturday efforts, I too put in EROSIVE first, but ASPS led to SHARED FILES and SPY STORIES which made the "ENT" ending evident. (Done unintentionally) We all know the ending from many other words, and while not common, it is logical.

Nice Cuppa said...

FYI, the OED gives ERODENT pretty short shrift, but cites the Sydenham Society medical dictionary from 1879. The entire dictionary has been pdfed and is a free download (~60 Mbytes).

Could be a useful e-vade mecum:


SYDDICT

ERODENT is on page 500 and something. It also gives "ERODENTIA" as a medicines having the action of an erodent.

ERODENT and RODENT come from the same root, of course: Latin 'rodere', to gnaw.

No I don't like the word either.

NC

Argyle said...

Funny thing; I use Dictionary.com and they didn't mention the medical use. erodent.

Nice Cuppa said...

Argyle

I see Dictionary.com also gives NONERODENT AND UNERODENT. Hmm. Definitely contenders for the GAVEUP Hall of Infamy.

NC

Jayce said...

Hello everybody.

Bary G, best wishes to you, your family, and your dad. Know what? You describe my experience with this puzzle almost exactly! Pencilling in SINGLEMALT for 62A killed me in the SW corner. Then I erased that and put in LAND for 54D and EROSIVE for 42D and was still nowhere. Of course, (over)confidently pencilling in ARS for 59D didn't help either.

The NE corner was equally disastrous for me. I wanted STENOGRAMS for 18A, and LESSER something for 5A. It took a long time to finally find JONQUIL in my researches about amaryllis.

So this was a big DNF. *Sigh*

At least I got JOSHUATREE, HEMOSTAT, FERMI, BAUD, FER, MONGOOSE, and ENTOMOLOGY pretty quickly and easily.

Lemonade, yes I read Rikki Tikki Tavi many many times in my insouciant youth; I love(d) that story.

Wasn't sure if 30A should be TZU, TSE, or what, until I got Tiger and Zero. Gosh, there are so many different ways of spelling Chinese words with the Roman alphabet these days!

All in all, I only liked about 30% of this puzzle. The other 70% I found merely frustrating and sometimes far-fetched. My e-rodent went on a tirade covering the pad.

That's all for now. More later maybe. Best wishes to you all.

Jerome said...

Just a couple of small but fun oddities-

STENO NOTES is an anagram of itself.

ASTRA anagrams to A STAR.

LODE crosses OGRE. DOLE and GORE.

Zero was born Samuel Joel Mostel. His press agent gave him the stage name Zero so he could say of him, "Here's a man who made something out of nothing."

Jayce said...

Jerome, good eye, thanks. You're good at anagrams! Is there one for EMOLLIENT? lol

Spitzboov said...

Jayce

Emollient<<>>lemon tile

Just trying to help

creature said...

NC- Thank heavens you showed up. I
wasn't sure you would come to the rescue,on a Sat., but ,since CA found the
entry, and she is our GAVEUP honorary , I took a bow.

Glad to see that we are on the same page.

I think the entry is weak and a 'second' thought, but I agreed to accept it personally ,in the puzzle today.

I'm working on my attitude.

Jerome said...

Jayce- The plural EMOLLIENTS, yes. But I can't use it because it would be plagiarism. It used to be a MOSTEL LINE.

You might be interested to know that I recently read a new and humorous puzzle book called "The Cruciverbalist Guide to Driving Solvers Bonkers" by Ted Nero. A quote- "ERODENT: A handy, if obscure, word often used by constructors in a tough corner of the grid when they can't convince the editor that PINE VEEDLES is a variant spelling."

dodo said...

Hello,

DNF for me today, and I have nothing to add that hasn't already appeared.

Barry G. So glad about your dad! May things continue to go well!

Jayce said...

Spitzboov, well done! Jerome, I love it! Pine veedles :))

Any other ENT words in that vein? DeodorENT? ExfoliENT? (sorry:)

Marge said...

Good afternoon,

I was very glad to see everyone else had trouble with this puzzle.

I am embarrassed to say, I missed hemostat since my original proffesion was nursing. all I could think of was forceps and it didn't end with T.

Barry G- I am glad your father is improving.

I was interested in Manhattan project notable Fermi. I had to look it up but read a lot of interesting information on it. I was especially interested because after WWII my father worked for the Atomic Energy Commision as an auditor. He had worked at an ammunition plant during the war. He traveled to most of the areas that were in volved in the Manhattan project. One of the areas was Los Alamos, New Mexico.
Ironically, about ten years later I went to N.M. to work in a small mission hospital and we were only a few miles from Los Alomas. Its near a mountain top and was still a closed city. New Mexico is a beautiful state. My Dad decided to resign from the job because he was gone from home all the time so he came back to Baraboo and got a job.

CC-you do a great job helping us to understand the puzzles.

Marge

Bill G. said...

C.C., you asked if I got Manny Mota right away. I have to be honest and say no. That's because I didn't do it because didn't want to frustrate myself with a difficult themeless puzzle. But, I'm pretty sure I would have. He's been with the Dodgers a long time and his name is synonymous with pinch hitter.

I can see why the Texas Rangers are a better team than the Dodgers. They've got some guys who can really hit.

Jerome said...

Yeah, Jayce, I can anagram DEODORENT. I can also DO ERODENT.

Man alive, that's five. I do not want Mr. Site Administrator bustin' my chops.

And all you South Bay honkies, I know damn well yer rootin' for the Niners tomorrow. Da Raiders gonna whup their butt!

Lucina said...

Hello, darling C.C. and fellow bloggers.

Not much time to devote to this puzzzle and won't finish the bottom SW corner before I leave for an evening wedding reception for my niece who was married in Hawaii in August.

I sailed through the NW, middle, SE, in other words, most of it but was seriously stumped at the bottom and not engrossed either as I have to help with the reception.

I'll read the blog and comments tonight or tomorrow, just wanted to come and greet everyone. I hope your Saturday is great!

Jayce said...

Dat's 'coz the Niners don't have no steenking quarterback.

Nice Cuppa said...

Jayce, Jerome

Excuse me. Is DEODERENT a variant of DEODORANT?

NC

VirginiaSycamore said...

I had to look up Mota (I was tried Acta first, now a manager in Cleveland Indians, my home team, but he didn't pinch hit)and Eger in the NE corner. I didn't get Quart until the rest was done.

In the NW, I tried VTOL, Vertical etc., but Joshua Tree meant it had to be S.

I did isometrics in the late 1960s. You did things like push against walls without moving. People generally feel lifting weights is better now.

I got the middle and the SW ok(except looked up Stolle, I don't follow tennis)
In the SE, I eventially got shared files because I have taken network manager classes, but it wasn't my first guess. I put Eroders and had no clue for Erodent.

Finally, I had to come to this page for Pine Needle. My best guess was River something with Bevy for Myriad.


Virginia Sycamore

Jayce said...

Nice Cuppa, that's the joke.

Dudley said...

Hello Puzzlers - Late to the party again.

Took a pretty good butt-kicking on this puzzle. Had to look up all the sports clues as usual just to get rid of some emptiness. Lots of cleverness, though!

Cheers -

Husker Gary said...

Hi Guys, Well the Husker dropped 4 TD passes, fumbled 4 times and had 90 yds in penalties and lost by 7. Dang. Will the Sun come up tomorrow? Yup!

Barry, I just went through my dad going through what yours is and it is not fun. I'll be thinking of you and all you can do is put one foot in front of the other. Life has a certain inertia and you just have to let it roll on. I love the Desiderata that contains the line, "and whether or not it is clear to you, the Universe is unfolding as it should."

I did the puzzle and then went out and played 15 holes in spectacular fall weather before watching the Huskers self-destruct. I was kicking butt and taking names before the SW corner bit me like everyone else. Scotch? Liquor? Tape? Stingy? Kilts? OMG, it's a tree! The blight is killing our Austrian pines here in the great plains and the Scotch Pines seem to be unaffected.

Erosive, eroding? Hah, ERODENT. I am looking at a huge red line under that word as I prepare to send this blog.

I had SMILE for the ending of SHAREDFILE and some other WAG's but all in all it was a fun ride because the top was much more reasonable.

I think of a STIFF as someone who is not any fun and wanted to see LAND from the Crow's Nest and loved Cole Younger's partner!

JD said...

Good evening all,

Jerome, sad. but probably true. One can hope, or not....

We're off to the opening home game for the SHARKS in a bit.Hoping for another exciting season with a different ending.

the xwd? oh yes, I tried it in between reading up on the numerous propositions on our CA ballot.Mr Silk is awesome with his amazing entries.The correct words did not jump into my head(like shared file or ostensible)I knew ostensive, so I put in 1/2 the word.Actually, I find myself doing that a lot.I let the perps take over.
By the time I got to EL CHEAPO, I really needed that laugh to keep me going.Loved pine needles too. Amazing clue!

I thought Ojai was a city, not a resort.mmmmm, a very fun city

CC, I think we call Jonquils narcissus, and daffodils are a combination of a narcissus and something else(???)Both early bloomers, but I'm not fond of their strong smell.

Barry, I'm so happy that you were able to all sit around and chat with your dad. My parents died when I was in my 20's and there were so many things that I never learned about them.Each day will be a gift for you from now on.

thehondohurricane said...

No time for the puzzle today between being a capitalist during the day and entertaining family tonight celebrating two birthdays and one anniversary. Did get a chance to peruse the puzzle and frankly, I doubt I would have had much success.

Barry, the continued good news about your Dad is heartwarming.
Skip (aka Hondo)

Looking forward to a "walk in the park" on Monday to get week off to a good start.

Bob said...

Speaking of FER = "Iron", one of the deadly snakes of Central America, South America, and the Caribbean is the Fer-de-Lance (genus Bothrops). For those unlucky enough to be bitten by one, a trip to the nearest hospital is mandatory and urgent, and unfortunately, the antivenin is almost as problematic as the venom itself. The antivenin is often produced in horses, and the accompanying horse antigens can frequently endanger the lives of victims all by themselves. Tissue necrosis around the bite and swelling add to the victim's long-term misery and sometimes necessitate the deliberate opening of the skin for days on end. Permanent scarring from the ordeal is common. I'd say this critter is well named ("Iron of the Lance").

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

JD et al,
Here is the pdf file for tomorrow's puzzle. Here is the puz file.

Chickie said...

My wrong answers really did me in today. Erosive instead of erodent, but Goats for kids was what made the NE corner completely undoable! I came here to get the rest of the answers and to read the blog. A Silky was not so smooth for me today, quite beyond my ability.

This afternoon we attended a memorial service for an old friend of over 50 years. It was a moving service and we did get to see her children who were very young when we were all next door neighbors back in the late
50's.

Barry G. Good news about your Dad. I'm so glad you are getting to spend some time with him and that he is out of ICU.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Bill G. said...

I recorded an old western movie, "The Bravados," with Gregory Peck. I figured with Gregory Peck, I couldn't go too far wrong. Right, it was pretty good so far. One of the bad guys said, "You'll never hear the shot that kills ya." Does that make any sense? I think so.

Annette said...

Jerome @ 3:36 pm, that gave me the best laugh I've had in a long time!

I finished and thought there was some GREAT fill, although I used more red letters than I'd have liked. I don't mind using them so much as a hint that enables ME to finish the entry, rather than using it to fill in the last letter of an entry, but I suppose it's really the same. I learned a lot of interesting things, even ERODENT hit me as a learning experience, rather than the irritant most of you felt. There were a few others I could have done without though...FER, UNA, ASTRA, TZU, MOTA, and STOLLE.

Barry G., I'm so glad to hear the positive news about your father. Keep it coming!

Bill G. @ 11:32 pm, that phrase was the premise for a MASH episode about a guy writing about that, then when he's shot, he never heard the bullet...

C.C., thank you for providing the Sunday puzzle with circles. You take such good care of us.

JD said...

Thanks C.C....got it

not such a great game,but the Giants won! :)

Frenchie said...

Good Evening C.C., Argyle and folk:

Really smooth, Silk! Do you get sick of those puns?
Excellent commentary, C.C.!

I have a few reaction comments of my own to share:

5A. Younger partner : JESSE JAMES. Ha! Ha! I was thinking the inference was to Sandra Bullock's ex., Jesse James of 'West Coast Chopper' fame who was younger than her. Sandra 40, Jesse, 35.

62A. Scotch part? : PINE NEEDLE. I was misled on Scotch part...I couldn't feature what a 10 letter word would be for water or soda! STRAIGHT UP?!

MY FAVORITES OF THE DAY:
64A. Agent's accounts : SPY STORIES. Simple and funny! Simply funny.
27. Impetuous : RASH

51. "Places for pads : KNEES. And MIDI (56. It covers the 51-Down). Did you want PADS?"......if mini pads are too small...midi pads would be a possibility!

60. French iron : FER. FER sparked a something in my brain...
fer: iron (ferrous oxide root?))
feu: fire
Irons in the fire...A person who has a few irons in the fire has a number of things working to their advantage at the same time.

Bill G., from Thurs...How could this happen to us? I used to be able to with stand a lot of chaotic music. When I took a mandatory music class in college, I was open to the turn of the century classical music in the US. I don't know that I could handle it any more.
SOUND BASED COMPOSITION

I'm out.

Frenchie said...

@ArgyleLiked the Jessi Coulter link!
@Lemonade714, Rikki Tikki Tavi had always been a favorite...gotta love Rudyard! My first brush with anthromorphism

@Bob, you sold out!!! =(

I'm out and have had the last word once again.