Saturday Themeless by Matthew Sewell
Today we get another Saturday themeless from one of our regulars, Dr. Matt Sewell. I had to waltz around until his pinwheel 9's and 8's showed the way. PATRIA, Hephaestus and VILLAIN EDIT were new for me. Here are some comments from Matt:Hello Gary,
Thanks for your note. I recall feeling good about this puzzle's range; whenever possible, I try to get a mix of classical/historical stuff with contemporary references, and that seemed to work out here. I also remember fussing with the NE corner of this puzzle a fair bit -- should it be SIX-SIDED? TEN-SIDED? I had a full corner using TEN-SIDED, but ultimately the most appealing clue options seemed to rest with TWO SIDES. The clue for DOOM is a tribute to my (much) younger self -- I certainly didn't need to do any research to know that that game ran on MS-DOS! I hope solvers enjoy the puzzle, and I'm grateful to Rich and the LAT team for their improvements to the final product.
Matt
1. Dispute over intellectual property: PATENT WAR - It is said only the lawyers made big money in this seven-year iPhone vs Samsung PATENT WAR
10. Little help?: ASST.
14. Consort of Hephaestus: APHRODITE - She was not a faithful wife to this God Of Blacksmiths
15. "Don't give me that!": PSHAW - McKayla Maroney's reaction to a silver medal in the London Olympics
16. Boarding site: TRAIN STOP - During the Chicago Cubs baseball season, this is a very busy TRAIN STOP on the Chicago Transit Authority Red Line
17. "__ is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom": Dylan: A HERO - Wise words from Bob Dylan
18. Drilling gp.: ROTC - Yeah, I'm the only the only one who put OPEC 😏
19. Metalworker's joints: SPOT WELDS - This SPOT WELDER is a machine
21. Like shouts in texts: IN CAPS.
24. "Interview With the Vampire" actor: REA - Stephen
25. Metz pronoun: TOI - J'ai entendu une rumeur sur TOI (I heard a rumor about you)
26. Wood used for electric guitar bodies: ASH - Fender now uses mostly alder wood but this is one of their ASH body instruments which they still manufacture
27. Catch on: START A TREND.
31. Storage shed securer: PADLOCK.
32. Singer India.__: ARIE - I have never heard her sing but with all those vowels in her name, she can have a long career in crosswords
33. Snacks with a pinwheel design: HOHOS.
36. Org. for those putting it nicely?: PGA - A made putt is, uh, "Putting it nicely"
37. Golfer's alternative to balls: DISCS - That clue went from "Huh?" to "Oh, now I get it!"
38. Largely dried-up sea: ARAL - That sea and its vowels live on here
39. Active by day: DIURNAL.
41. Slant given to a reality TV antagonist: VILLAIN EDIT - What is done on some productions to produce a villain which can help ratings. New to me.
43. Some NFL linemen: RGS - [Right/Left] [Guard/Tackle]
46. Brass source: EGO - Egotistical people can be said to be have a lot of brass
47. "Take __": ONE.
48. "Just say the word": NAME IT
50. Winning four consecutive majors over a two-year span, as named for the first to do it: TIGER SLAM - Golf's Grand Slam is winning all four "major" championships in one calendar year. Tiger Woods won the U.S. Open, the British Open and The PGA Tournament in 2000 and then the Master's in 2001.
54. Union underminer: SCAB - My neighbor was a SCAB lineman for the 1987 Dallas Cowboys during an NFL strike
55. Sluggish: INERT.
56. "Is that all?": ARE WE DONE and 61. "What __?": ELSE.
59. More than passion: MANIA.
60. Crack wise: KID AROUND.
62. "A snap!": EASY AS PIE.
Down:
1. Nero's country: PATRIA - Latin for "Fatherland". Nero's PATRIA was Rome. Matt wrote me that his original clue was to use a Spanish name because PATRIA is also fatherland in Spanish. He thinks Rich must have chosen Nero in the clue to hint at PATRIA's Latin origin.
2. Spatter collectors: APRONS.
3. Organic roof choice: THATCH - Gilligan and The Skipper work on theirs
4. Durance of "Smallville": ERICA - She played a young Lois Lane
5. The "N" in NDA: NON - Taylor Swift made her boyfriend Calvin Harris sign a NON Disclosure Agreement so their activities would stay private
6. Jerry Rice's record 208, briefly: TDS.
7. Roasters, say: WITS - WITS lined up to roast Justin Bieber
8. Crowning: ATOP - Putting a crowning glory ATOP a church
9. Place for marks: REPORT CARD - I'd love to have a dime for every mark I ever put on a REPORT CARD
10. Connors rival: ASHE - Jimmy and Arthur in tennis
11. Tax pro's suggestions: SHELTERS - Such as...
12. Biting: SARDONIC.
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13. Feature of every story, it's said: TWO SIDES - Custer and Crazy Horse saw it very differently
15. Grab for clumsily: PAW AT - Not a good date move
20. Deck wood: TEAK - It contains oils that are beautiful and durable in marine environments
22. Free TV spots: PSAS - Public Service Announcements
23. Convention: Abbr.: STD.
28. Body of water often defined as above the tree line: ALPINE LAKE.
29. Aberrant way to go: ROGUE.
30. Bit of fencing: RAIL.
31. Request votes from: POLL - One of your Who Wants To Be A Millionaire lifelines is to POLL the audience. (*The answer is at the bottom of the page - hg)
33. Be available: HAVE TIME.
34. Not seen before: ORIGINAL.
35. Chlorine and iodine: HALOGENS - Here ya go.
37. Big __: DATA - Controlling information is the true power
39. Rackets: DINS.
40. "Fire" diarist Anaïs: NIN - Her diaries were erotic to say the least
42. Circulatory passage: AORTA - Body parts with three vowels get a lot of use
43. Make back, as initial costs: RECOUP - This movie's gross revenue of $7M came up $93M short of RECOUPING its cost
44. Donatella's designer brother: GIANNI - GIANNI Versace and his 8-yrs-younger sister Donatella are in the middle picture. The people who played them in a TV series are shown on the outside.
45. "Venerable" Eng. monk: ST BEDE - This is the visual I used on Craig Stowe's August 28, 2021 puzzle
49. Original platform for Doom: MS DOS.
51. City at the intersection of I-90 and I-79: ERIE - Here's the map
52. Stage solo, perhaps: ARIA - "Don't judge a book by its cover" is a secondary conclusion to this video of my favorite ARIA. Paul brings judges and the audience to tears.
53. Scrips: MEDS - preSCRIPtionS
57. "__ cool!": WAY.
58. Detergent brand: ERA.
*The school with the "eating clubs" is Princeton
35 comments:
DNF. I did not do well on this one. The N & Central E were a mix of white, black and red when I gave up. A theme might have helped, but of course this was a Saturday.
There's TWO SIDES to every story.
The HERO's is packed with glory!
But for the VILLAIN
Who got the killin',
His side was likely more gory!
APHRODITE was the goddess of beauty.
HEPHAESTUS was deformed, not a cutie.
Which says that the nerds
Who first wrote mythic words
Daydreamed women wouldn't find them too fruity!
Good morning!
Yay, no theme to miss. This one came together in Silkie fashion...a little here, a little there, and then suddenly it's done. Tried OREM where ERIE needed to go. D'oh -- d-o knew better; I-79 had to be back east. Got "brass source," but didn't understand it. Thanx, Husker. I did not realize that there were 6-digit phone numbers back in Bede's day. In the end, the G in GIANNI was my final fill. This one came in way under the time limit. Thanx, Matt.
DIURNAL: What's it called if you need 'em both by day and by night?
TEAK: The flight deck on our WWII-vintage aircraft carrier was covered in TEAK. Tweren't pretty, though. Neither were the WWII-vintage living quarters.
Brass as in brass balls comes from ego.
Good morning.
Had a tough time getting any kind of rhythm going, but got 'er done ! Solving a good Saturday puzzle makes for a great start to the day. Thank you Matthew, and thank you, Husker Gary.
There were enough low hanging fruit toeholds for me (ARIE, NIN, TIGER SLAM, PGA, ERIE, ARAL, PSAS, RECOUP) and solid hunches (ELSE, WAY, ERA, ASH, DISCS, DATA, TEAK, STD etc) scattered about to pave the way for the longer answers and lead to completion.
SE fell first, then NW followed by the middle and then NE. The SW fell last, when I finally gave up on mAkE TIME and changed it to HAVE TIME. Don't know why it took so long to "see" HOHOS.
VILLAINED IT ? What ? Oh, VILLAIN EDIT ! :>)
Yes, hand up for OPEC, but ADA was the first thought for "Drilling gp"
Also, my "Roasters' were hens before WITS.
I really struggled with the NE and eventually gave up, although the cluing is all completely fair. I had never heard of SPOTWELDS, put Borg as the rival for Connors, and thought Metz was in Germany, so I just went completely down the wrong path. But there is always tomorrow!
Good morning all. Knowing PATENT WAR got the NW started because PATRIA was a new word and I only guessed APHRODITE after a few perps were in place. ERICA Durance was unknown and filled by changing from ELENA.VILLIAN EDIT was 100% perps; thanks for the explanation Gary because after filling it I still didn't know what it was.
ASHE & Connors- Arthur Ashe was almost ten years older. Connor's main rivals were BORG, McENROE, & LENDL.
HAVE TIME? Not today. Have a nice day.
50A-TIGER SLAM- How about the Martina Navratilova slam. Beginning with the 1983 Wimbledon title, she won SIX consecutive Grand Slam women's singles titles. The 'Grand Slam' is only for the press.
Re. My "hint" fln… Nero Wolfe's favorite expression was PSHAW.
Brass source turned out not to be tin. Not on a Saturday. I finally remembered there was an actor named REA. Not to be confused with Star Wars REy
50A and 51A got me 14 sure letters.
Inked Italia < PATRIA.
I had considered cons for rackets<DINS.
On my regular trip from GR to NH I only once followed I90 and ran into snow blindness off Lake ERIE.
Two solid W's today, Owen.
I had IUR and thought of DIURNAL but had to do some TwEAKing.
Never easy on a Saturday but lots of footholds made this relatively quick. I couldn't believe that PSHAW would be correct but I liked ASHE and ASST.
WC
Took 18:01 to get this one. I seemed to make the same missteps the others did, such as OPEC before ROTC and Borg before Ashe.
"Villained it" (ok, "villain edit") was the last fill for me, as that was unknown.
Enjoyable puzzle, and definitely a broad mix of references.
Hi Y'all! Matthew Sewell, Groan! Bless you, Husker, for taking these on.
Took me 46:01 minutes to fill. Bottom tier finally gave me some foot-holds & worked my way back up, trudging thru the "snow", red-letters helping all the way. Too many unknowns.
But hey, I knew GIANNI and I'm anything but a fashionista.
Good morning everyone.
Gary; Good job as always.
Started off with a sea of white but jumped in with ALPINE LAKE and ST BEDE. The solve gradually bloomed out in Silkie fashion as D-O described. Really enjoyed this one, but thought I would come up short in the NE. Finally thought SARDONIC seemed to perp and it satisfied the clue as well as I could remember and finished with DISCS/DATA. Had 'duel' before RAIL. Tada; FIR.
Drilling gp. - wanted DDS'S, but then remembered a common past puzzle clue for ROTC.
ERIE - Remembered this clue from previous puzzles.
Metz - Is in Lorraine, France, despite its German name. Looked for moi or TOI as possible fill. Vowel rich.
THATCH - German Reetdach (reed cover (deck)). L. German Reetdack or Dack. (Many of the homes in my parents' home town in southern Schleswig still had thatched roofs in 1965; as did my aunt's where we stayed. Heard lots of 'REET' (reed) stories as a kid.)
Martthew obviously put a lot of work into composing this puzzle, so thank you very much for the excursion..
Thank you Matthew for a very interesting puzzle and a rare Saturday FIR fer me. And thank you Husker for another elucidating review.
18A ROTC Hand up for OPEC at first and ADA was too short.
19A SPOTWELDING is something that APHRODITE's consort (14A) probably would have done, had the technology existed in olden times.
25A METZ sounded Deutsch to me, but I couldn't get DER?, DIE? DAS?, to work with any 12Ds I could think of. SARDONIC finally broke the ice with _O_ and I knew it wasn't German, but FRENCH. But then MON? TON? VOS?. AH yes TOI.
32A Here's Indie.Arie's "The Truth".
41A VILLAIN EDIT? DNK, but perps rule. And here I thought that deep down all people were nice in REALITY!
1D Here's ANNA NETREBKO singing a snippet from AIDA's "O PATRIA mia" (Ethiopia in her case).
10D BORG? ILIE? I know the names, but not necessarily their timelines. But it perped to ASHE (a CLECHO to 26A).
35D CL & I are also ELEMENTS, but HOHO made them HALOGENS. Remind me to tell you some of my Halogen adventures from HS chem lab.
44D So they weren't NINJA TURTLES? RB? (is that a lineman position?), but GIANNI sounded more Italian, so RGS it was.
52D ARIA? Just recently -T's ELDEST SOPHIE (she looked pretty young to me) sang several Italian arias, chansons Françaises, and deutsche Lieder quite beautifully.
Cheers,
Bill
D-O @6:51 AM My URNAL is of the NOCT variety. During the day I just use the LOO.
Yes, Gary, good job as always. We FIR but it was far from EASY AS PIE. Got the SE first then then NW. More or less connected the two and sorted things out from there.
Loved the two golf misdirection clues/answers - after they finally emerged from the mist. Did not love the VILLAINED IT, as we first guessed it was. Villain Edit does make more sense but still don't like it. The good news was that as that was filled in we got to as ARE WE DONE?
OwenKL 4:47 AM Since you forgot, I giving you a AA Battery for your DIURNAL POMES.
Wilbur Charles @7:56 AM I think you want ZINC for "Brass source". Tin is for BRONZE.
It is still morning here, so good morning, All! As you know, I come here when all else fails and never fail to find the answers and more! Thanks! I needed to know Aphrodite was a consort of Hephaestua, because I seem to remember from mythology class (a long time ago) the name of Charis. Was that his wife/lover? Anyhow, it was a DNF, but not too bad. Have a new polydactly kitten who helped mightily with this puzzle? Maybe he VILLAINED IT? Hope all is going well in all your crossword corners and off for errands.
FIW, missing mAkETIME x mOHO and kILLAIN EDIT. Almost changed to HOHO, but HAkE TIME didn't make sense, and VILLIAN EDIT never occurred (nor will it by this afternoon)
Following PGA with "golfer's alternative to balls" made me want LPGA, but the fill needed 5 letters.
I knew DIURNAL temperature range from meteorology, where it means the the difference between the high and low temperatures in a 24 hour day. (If today's high is 88 and the overnight low was 77, the DIURNAL temperature range is 11 degrees.)
MS DOS brought back memories. I remember that a lot of IBM-compatible PCs were only kinda-compatible. The acid test was to load MS Flight Simulator. If that ran properly on your clone, you could be comfortable that is was compatible enough for most other purposes. I also remember needing to buy an MS-DOS upgrade so I could upgrade from Windows 3.0 to 3.1.
The reason I remember the DOS upgrade was that during my annual trek to the big computer show Comdex in Las Vegas, I was very impressed by a little company's software product called Visio. I bought a copy, but when I loaded it didn't run at all like the demo at the show. I called tech support, and quickly found out that I needed to upgrade from Windows 3.0 to 3.1 OK, I went down to CompUSA and bought Windows 3.1. Got it home and it wouldn't load. Reading the requirements on the box, I discovered that my MS-DOS had to be upgraded too. Back to CompUSA, and with new DOS and Windows installed, Visio showed it magic. (I still use and recommend Visio, even though it is now owned by Microsoft and predictably has become bloated and expensive. Boy the way Glen Miller played, Songs that made the hit parade, Guys like us we had it made, Those were the days)
Dang.
Got 'em all--except for calling Donatella's brother BIANNI. (I thought it sounded weird, even for a "furinner.")
The perp was no help, as RBS is easily as right as RGS.
(I see waseeley weighed the same matter, but came out on the right side.)
~ OMK
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DR: Two diagonals, one to a side.
The front end diag is a winner, with a Jackpot anagram (ALL 15 of 15 letters!!).
WooHOO!
It is a most fashionable statement, this winning anagram, as it describes how the world sees the typical "smart phone" user as he or she walks along our city streets practically GLUED to their phone's screen.
Even honking cars find it difficult to gain the attention of one of these individuals, referred to here as an...
"APPS NARCOLEPTIC"!
While raking seaweed with a throw rake at camp I slipped and fell on wet shoreline grass a few hours ago. Fractured my right ankle (crossword fibula). ER doc put me in a walking boot. Did exactly the same thing 10 years ago, left fibula, doing something similar but was casted instead. Got a venous thrombosis back then led to pulmonary embolism twice so on perpetual anticoags now. Thus the GOOD news is I shouldn't get any clots plus no fibulae left to fracture. 🥴
Even with my "leg up" I didn't get a leg up on the the puzzle, hit many roadblocks, so ceased and desisted. Plus popping ancient oxycodone tabs from a long ago dentist's prescription, back when they gave em out like candy..(but you didn't hear that from me.)😳
Aphrodite has RED hair in the picture. Another Greek without black hair...Almost put Alexander as "Hephaestion" consort then reread the spelling. What will the ARAL Sea be called in CWs once it dries up? Vampire clue: 3 letters; I remember Pitt, Cruise, and Slater, starts with R so it must be REA. 🧛♂️
TOI or "ils", "lui"....That's a "pinwheel" design? Looks more like a "spiral"
PATRIA ("fatherland" in Italian as well)..Italia fit but wouldn't perp.
Thought you could escape?...WRONG..🤗
Condo bolt...PADLOCK
Loo to mix color in.....DIURNAL (Waz)
Younger son is a batchelor, but older is _____ .....AREWEDONE
Santa's favorite snacks....HOHOS.
Fries and coleslaw....TWOSIDES
More ice, and how about a bell to summon DW!! on demand? (don't hold yer breath)🤣🤣
I was so proud of myself as I confidently inked easy peasy. Nope, it was easy as pie. I corrected it on my own, but had no clue about patent wars, until I read Husker's comments. I was really really happy, now I'm just happy. I did better than I have been doing.
Becky
Hi All!
I did OK (for me) on a Sat but, again, I needed to crib from HG's grid for extra-play - esp. in the SW (not OREO? PSHAW!). Even after a cheat - I got 44d wrong. I went with Right Tackles at 43a :-(
Thanks Matthew for the grid to play after my chores were done.
Thanks HG for the expo and visuals (oh, that! deck... I wondered who could afford a back patio of TEAK :-))
WO: hand-up for OPEC
ESPs: yeah - say a name and it was (except ASHE - got that one, I did)
Fav: "I like Big DATA, I cannot lie" (is a Splunk Tee I have).
//see, it's a pun from Sir Mix-A-Lot's song and... [OK, you're not going to believe this].
Runner-ups: MS DOS for Doom. You had to HiMem your autoexec.bat for that.
I played a lot of DISC-golf in HS.
{A, A+}
OMK, I'm going to use your DR on DW & Youngest - just try to ask a question when a text comes in...
@11:36 Waseeley - with an F, in Sofie's name :-)
Y'all keep saying Borg as Conners' foe? No, that's Picard's nemesis (as is Q).
D'Oh! Ray-O - That's gotta hurt; get well soon my friend.
Re: the bell - you got it backwards: She gets one when she's sick, you...? not so much :-)
Jinx - My first PC came with Win3.0 (#POS!).
I cursed, "If I wanted an Apple..." and reloaded the box with DR-DOS. I mostly used it to connect to the University's IBM 360 and the Vax systems. It was nice to do my homework at home :-)
//I use Visio all the time for network schematics. Yes, it's bloated & the 3-D routers, etc. are pointless
Wishing everyone a wonderful afternoon!
Cheers, -T
It took numerous breaks during the day but the last corner (SW) filled for a FIR at last. Had many missteps along the way: EASYpeasy like Becky, thought of Italia like Ray-O, and had trouble parsing VILLAINEDIT after it filled. But proud to say it worked out. Thanks Matthew for an all day challenge! Many thanks, Husker Gary, for your helpful review!!
So sorry to hear of your accident, Ray-O. Sounds like you know what to expect this time. Best wishes! And hope everyone else is doing well this weekend.
I liked this puzzle. It feels well constructed and well thought out. I did stumble here and there, to wit: TELL A JOKE didn't work at all and eventually the perps revealed KID AROUND. Hand up for OPEC before ROTC, ITALIA before PATRIA, HENS before WITS, and for parsing that unknown professional jargon as VILLAINED IT.
I can't see the name APHRODITE without thinking of Mira Sorvino.
In my work we used the term DIURNAL to mean the period of 24 hours (diurnal drift, diurnal variation, etc.)
I loved the game DOOM. I'm sure I spent several hundred hours playing and replaying it.
I was also very impressed with Visio but don't use it at all any more.
Good wishes to you all.
Ray-O - OUCH! Glad you are boot-mobile. (I also have a cache of emergency leftover Oxy.)
-T, I had forgotten about himem, but do remember monkeying with autoexec.bat. Now we have the system register, so we can REALLY screw things up. I was using XTree when the company went to Win 3.0. Couldn't figure out why launching programs from an icon was such a big deal.
Thank you Mr. Sewell, for a very intricate puzzle, and Husker Gary for a very informative blog. Some of the answers were totally undesiperable but I managed to complete the puzzle. Some of the logic also escaped me.
I was not familiar with PATENT WAR but it came across quite suddenly.
I am still confused about HO HOS having a pinwheel design - I thougt that was a spiral....
A ROTH IRA is hardly a TAX SHELTER. YMMV.
I just 'discovered', that there is a element at Atomic Numer 117, Tennessine, Ts.117, which was named after the great state of Tennessee, it was discovered in Nov 2016, the second heaviest element so far discovered or invented .... and it is a Halogen ....
... and I thought Tenn was known only for The Grand Ole Opry, the Vols, and Elvis ...
My learning moment of today.
I have had multiple injections of SF6 - Sulfur Hexa Flouride, a supposedly nontoxic fluid, lighter than water, .... into the center of my left eye, to 'hold up' the retinal wallpaper at the back of my eye - when I had multiple detached retinal problems. It iatrogenically ( caused or induced inadvertently by the surgeon or the medical procedure - ) caused a cataract, which necessitated an IOC - intra ocular lens, etc. So Halogens can be very useful outside of detergents, bleaches and poison gas...
have a nice day, all and a good week ahead.
-T @4:18 PM So Sir Mix-A-Lot brought his on FLASHing MOB!
p.s. corrected version of Sofie's Recital is in the mail.
Ray-O-Sunshine, so sorry to hear about your fibula fracture. Hope it heals rapidly and properly.
Ray O, So sorry to hear of your fibula problems ... on hindsight, perhaps, it would have been better to let the seaweed lie as they grow, they are not poisonous .... or hire someone else to do the weeding job. Or, just dont go there, to the edge of the lake.
We have to realize our own sudden disabilites that slowly creep up on us, as we age. I have learnt not to wear, or put on, my pajamas or underwear, whilst standing up, .... and not to jump out of bed every morning, but slide over like an asp.
Also I use extra heavy duty rubber mats on the floor of my shower stalls, and all over our tiled bathrooms and kitchen. Also I dont lock my bathroom or toilet, whilst using it, and never stand on ladders or stools unless someone else is nearby. within hailing distance ...
What, with the fragility of our bones, and the onset of the loss of balance, one has to use an abundance of caution. One of my friends, an Ob/Gyn went up a ladder to clean the ivy creepers on his second floor windows, from the outside, fell and broke his neck. His wife, who was out shopping, did not find out about his condition, until midevening.
-T @4:18 PM When I was working I had the full version of VISIO and loved it. When I went to design a new studio for my son, I went out and bought the intro version, figuring I didn't need all the advanced capabilities. I found that the UI had ZERO congruence with the advanced version, just SUCKERWARE to get you upgrade to a product that actually did something. I was so IRED that I bought a copy of SMARTDRAW for $200 and now have a complete scale model of the studio and every piece of equipment in it. Not a big fan of MS.
Ray - O @4:02 PM I am so sorry to hear about your broken ankle. We'll add you to our prayer list. You're the 4th Cornerite BTW. You guys (and gals) have got to stop doing this! 🙂
Cheers,
Bill
DNF - I clearly wasn't on Mr Sewell's wavelength.
I'd argue that something sluggish is slow moving but not inert.
I'd also argue that 'grab for' implies (attempted) grasping while 'paw at' implies an absence of opposable thumbs (or at least the absence of their use).
Finally I'd argue that a prescription is not a medication.
But I'm probably just sulking.
Ashe and Connors, 32 and 22, met at Wimbledon in 1975 with ASHE gaining his greatest victory.
Connors and Borg met many times with Borg having the edge.
WC
Here's a complete story of
ASHE defeats Connors at Wimbleton.
The Carolina coast was the killer ... kept thinking Donatella is one of the Teenage Mutant Turtles! (I think I'm going to create an opposition to "TMI", viz., "NEI", Never Enough Infomation, to solve cwds. in today's case.)
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