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Apr 18, 2024

Thursday, April 18, 2024, Hoang-Kim Vu, Jessica Zetzman

 Farmers' Market


Each Spring we can't wait for the Misty Valley truck farm to open, and we usually stop there on Sundays after church.  Their Eastern Shore Silver Queen corn is to die for and their cantaloupes are the sweetest!

And it looks like today's veteran constructors Hoang-Kim Vu and Jessica Zetzman do their shopping for themers at a local farmer's market, ever on the look out for fresh, tasty local puns. And depending on the venue you might hear  these quips [followed by unpunned explanations] ...

17. At the market, farmers often __: SWAP MEATS.  "I'll trade you a pound of this HAM for that T-BONE steak".   [per Merriam-Websters].

28. At the orchard, farmers are often __: WORKING IN PEARS.  "BOSC me no questions ANJOU'll get no lies".  [How small farmers can work together to improve their situation].

48. In the field, farmers often specialize in __: BEET GENERATION.  "If money is the ROOT of all evil -- give me some of the ROOT!".   [There was nothing prosaic about the beat poets].

65. At the state fair, farmers often __: SHOW THYME. "THYME Flies Like an Arrow; Fruit Flies Like a Banana".  Something like this phrase was used by Jazzbumpa in a recent review.  Quote Investigator reveals that its actual origin may have been in [an early experiment in automated language translation] *(see below for another one).

Here's the field after it's been plowed ...


Here's the rest ...

Across:

1. Page, in a way: PING.  A versatile word.  The clue implies sending a signal just to see if someone or something is there.  It could be an underwater object ...

... it could be an Internet utility used to see if a network device is reachable.  Of course the duffers on the Corner will know it as a brand of premium golf clubs.

5. Weary response to incessant cries of "Look at me, look at me!": I SAW.

9. Timesheet units: HOURS.  The HOURS have been a metaphor for life throughout the ages.  Here's the finale from the ballet The Dance of the Hours from Ponchielli's opera La Gioconda.
If you want something a little deeper here's the Act II trio from the The Hours based on the Virginia Woolf  novel Mrs. Dalloway.  The performers are Renée Fleming, Kelli O’Hara, and Joyce DiDonato, as Clarissa Vaughan, Laura Brown, and Virginia Woolf respectively ...
14. __ list: TO DO.  If you create one, be sure to lay in a supply of these ...
15. Wrestler John who has fulfilled more than 650 Make-A-Wish requests: CENA.   On September 27, 2022 John Cena set a new Guinness World record by granting 650 Make-A-Wish wishes.
John Cena
16. Alt, perhaps: INDIE.  Here are the Traveling Wilburys, an "INDIE" band who escaped fame to ride under the rock radar ...

17. [Theme clue]

19. Hurry along: SCOOT.

20. Broth in Japanese cuisine: DASHIUMAMI in a bottle.

21. Place where two sides come together: SEAM.

23. Unwelcome picnic guests: ANTS.

24. Red Muppet: ELMO.

26. Gear for a grip: BOOMWhat's a grip, a best boy grip and a key gripWhat's a BOOM?  They sound like different specialties to me: video and audio respectively.

28. [Theme clue]

34. Turf: SOD.

35. MiLB level: AAAMinor League Baseball.  Rookie 2nd Baseman Jackson Holliday recently came up from the Orioles AAA farm team and his first ML hit helped the O's beat the Brewers.

36. Bit at the bottom of a tub: KERNEL.  Not a bathtub.  This kind of tub ...

37. Sends sprawling: TRIPS.

40. Pres. whose library is in Austin, Texas: LBJ. Lyndon Baines Johnson August 27, 1908 – January 22, 1973) was the 36th President.  He was John F. Kennedy's Vice President and assumed the Presidency after the latter's assassination on November 22, 1963.
Lyndon Baines Johnson

42. Oyster layer: NACRE.  AKA Mother of Pearl.

43. In dreamland: ASLEEP.

45. "Don't __ me down!": LET.  From a rehearsal for the album Let it Be  ...

47. Ate: HAD.

48. [Theme clue]

52. Epic tale: SAGA.

53. Composer Jerome: KERN.  Here's Fred Astaire playing an old Jerome Kern standard ...

54. "Why not __?": BOTH.

57. U.S. Pacific island: GUAMGuam is an unincorporated territory of the United States in the North Pacific Ocean, the largest, most populous, and southernmost of the Mariana Islands. It lies about 5,800 miles west of San Francisco and 1,600 miles east of Manila.

59. Southern, for one: OCEAN.  AKA the Antarctic Ocean, it's about 6258 miles South of Guam.
63. Groupthink?: ETHOS.  I just wish there were more than two.  😒

65. [Theme clue]

67. Familiar plot device: TROPE.  This is not the correct clue for TROPE.  Somebody changed the original meaning of the word while we weren't looking (not the fault of the constructors or the editor).  Pay attention, this can get confusing ...!

68. Overhanging part of a roof: EAVE.

69. New York canal: ERIE.  It's EERIE just how often this word shows up in crosswords. 

70. Put up: HOUSE.

71. Still 43-Across: ABED.

72. Acorn, essentially: SEEDSEEDS are how farmers markets get their start. 

Down:

1. Condition that may be treated with SSRIs: PTSDSelective serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) are a treatment for depression, including Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

2. State that holds quadrennial caucuses: IOWA.

3. Confidentiality docs: NDAS. Confidential? Not a chance - "Information is like heat -- it always gets out!"

4. Garden tunneler: GOPHER.  We've never had GOPHERS in our garden, but I have had to deal with some pretty pesky GROUND HOGS.  Not a pretty story.

5. Freezer cubes: ICE.

6. Not always available: SEASONAL.  The foods available at farmers' markets are SEASONAL, which is why they taste so fresh.

7. Pre-deal payment: ANTE.

8. Pungent condiment: WASABI. AKA Japanese Dristan.   It's made from a Japanese horseradish and is the perfect excuse to eat sushi.  Most of the stuff you get in the restaurants is made from the dried, ground herb mixed into a paste.  We've only had fresh WASABI once, in the Omiza Restaurant on Main Street in landlocked Doylestown, PA.  It's like a completely different condiment ...
Wasabi japonica
9. Short hellos: HIS.

10. Recorded, say: ON CAMERA.  The editing of this review is ON CAMERA and will soon show up in suggestions by Google for new pages for me to view.

11. Noodle in Japanese cuisine: UDON.  A side dish for your WASABI.

12. Really great comedy act, e.g.: RIOT.  Between sumdaze and Hahtoolah, there's a RIOT on the Corner every Monday and Tuesday.

13. Hardens, in a way: SETS.

18. Cereal partner: MILK.

22. Part of an order, perhaps: MONK.  Clever clue.  There's a whole song cycle devoted to MONKS.  Here's the great Leontyne Price singing The Desire for Hermitage from Samuel Barber's Hermit Songs, accompanied by the composer ...
25. "Mamma __!": MIA.

27. Doing business: OPEN.

28. Inferior: WORSE.

29. "Swan Lake" role for Misty Copeland: ODILE.  Sorry, I couldn't find Misty doing ODILE (the Black Swan), so you'll have to settle for her ODETTE (the White Swan) ...

30. Overhanging part of a roof: GABLE.  What is the difference is between an EAVE and a GABLE end roof of a house?

31. Pepper used in mole sauce: ANCHO.  Some mole recipes.
32. Aired again: RERAN.

33. Iditarod vehicle: SLED.  The Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race, more commonly known as The Iditarod (/aɪˈdɪtərɒd/), is an annual long-distance sled dog race held in Alaska in early March. It travels from Anchorage to Nome. Mushers and a team of between 12 and 16 dogs, of which at least 5 must be on the towline at the finish line, cover the distance in 8–15 days or more. The Iditarod began in 1973 as an event to test the best sled dog mushers and teams but evolved into today's highly competitive race.

34. Attempt: STAB.

38. Rescue supply spots: PET SHOPS.  A CSO to PAT.

39. Genesis name: SEGA.  Who knew that EVE had triplets?  😀

41. "Really uncool, bro": JERK MOVE.  Not the first thing that entered my mind.

44. Simon of the "Mission: Impossible" film series: PEGGSimon John Pegg (né Beckingham; born 14 February 1970) is an English actor, comedian and screenwriter.  Pegg is one of the few performers to have achieved what has been called the "Holy Grail of Nerd-dom": playing popular supporting characters in Doctor Who, Star Trek, and Star Wars. He currently stars as Benji Dunn in the Mission: Impossible film series (2006–present).
Simon Pegg
46. __ kwon do: TAETae kwon do is a Korean martial art and combat sport involving punching and kicking techniques. The literal translation "kicking", "punching", and "the art or way of".  It sometimes involves the use of weapons.
Ouch!
49. Queasiness: NAUSEA.

50. Relaxed gait: TROT.

51. Crawls (along): INCHES.

54. "Little Women" woman: BETH.

55. "Al __ lado del río": Oscar-winning song by Jorge Drexler: OTROAl otro lado del río (transl. "On the Other Side of the River") is a song by Uruguayan singer Jorge Drexler from the soundtrack album for the film The Motorcycle Diaries (2004).  It received the Academy Award for Best Original Song at the 77th Academy Awards, becoming the first Spanish language song, the second in a foreign language, to receive such an honor, and the first by a Uruguayan artist ...

56. Quaint pronoun: THOU.  Also slang for a GRAND.

58. Literary captain: AHAB.  The protagonist of the great American novel, Hermann Melville's Moby Dick.  You can buy this first edition for only US$ 87,771.81 ...
Moby Dick 1851
Hermann Melville

 60. Literary governess: EYREJane Eyre is a novel by the English writer Charlotte Brontë. It was published under her pen name "Currer Bell" on 19 October 1847 by Smith, Elder & Co. of London. The first American edition was published the following year by Harper & Brothers of New York. Jane Eyre is a bildungsroman that follows the experiences of its eponymous heroine, including her growth to adulthood and her love for Mr Rochester, the brooding master of Thornfield Hall.  A first edition of this work can set you back as much as US$ 100,000.  But this one is a steal for only US$ 65,000 ...
Jane Eyre 1847
Charlotte Brontë

Our constructors are very literary!

61. Dijon companion: AMIE.  Today's French lesson: Dijon is a city that serves as the prefecture of the Côte-d'Or department and of the Bourgogne-Franche-Comté region in eastern France.  As of 2017 the commune had a population of 156,920.

62. "__ a lift?": NEED.

64. Date: SEE.  Before you can 66D you usually have to do this (unless you buy a mail-order spouse!)

66. Make it official, in a way: WEDELOPE was too long.

* My favorite automated language translation story goes something like this:  The inventors were showing off their new program to some dignitaries, one of whom suggested "Show us the translation of 'Out of sight, out of mind' into Chinese".  The inventors ran it through their program and out popped some Chinese.  Dignitaries: "But how do we know that it's correct?  Translate it back to English".  The program responded: "Invisible Idiot". 😁

Cheers,
Bill

And as always, thanks to Teri for proof reading and for her constructive criticism.

waseeley

33 comments:

Subgenius said...

There was quite a bit of misdirection in this puzzle. I particularly note: “ Genesis name: Sega” but there were quite a few others as well. Also, I had no clue about the Spanish phrase, although I was able to come up with the pepper, which also seemed Spanish-derived. So this puzzle was by no means “easy,” but I guess that’s appropriate for a Thursday puzzle. Anyway, FIR, so I’m happy.

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

The northwest was stubbornly white, so I rotated around and finished that section last. Nice that there was no reveal for d-o to miss. Tried UNEASE before NAUSEA upchucked. Cute puns Vu (is that correct?) and Jessica. Enjoyed your esoteric excursion, waseeley and Teri. (Bildungsroman: Now there's a 64-dollar word. Sounds like something that might need to be cleaned up on Aisle 4.)

GUAM: Spent almost two years there. I remember flying there we had to make fuel stops in Hawaii and again at Wake Island. Made me realize that it was a long hop from California.

GOPHER: They usually have at least two exits from their underground burrows, but if you try to drown 'em with a garden hose, they always come sputtering out of the hole where the hose is. Weird.

Jinx in Norfolk said...

FIR, but kerr->KERN, theme->TROPE, abide->HOUSE, seth->SEGA, and emma->BETH.

Today is:
NATIONAL LINEMAN APPRECIATION DAY (Started by Glen Cambell in Wichita, KS in 1968. Or not)
NATIONAL POEM IN YOUR POCKET DAY (hey bae, I got a poem in my pocket and you are the ode of honor)
NATIONAL HIGH FIVE DAY (started as an impromptu celebration in 1977 when Dusty Baker made the Dodgers the first MLB team in history to have four players with at least 30 regular-season home runs each.)
GET TO KNOW YOUR CUSTOMERS DAY (as if Google and Amazon need encouragement)
NATIONAL EDUCATION AND SHARING DAY (observed annually on the 11th day of the month of Nisan on the Jewish calendar - or 4 days before Passover begins. Coming to a Saturday crossword near you)
NATIONAL EXERCISE DAY (my go-to exercises are jumping to conclusions, making leaps of faith, and exercising my prerogative)
NATIONAL COLUMNISTS' DAY (honors all newspaper columnists and their contributions to the truth in black and white, as long as the truth doesn’t support evil conservatives)
NATIONAL ANIMAL CRACKERS DAY (no, no, no. Not the 1930 Marx Brothers comedy, this day honors the cookies that became known as Barnum's Animals in 1902)

I always thought a grip was a gofer. Being an old radio/TV guy, I knew what a BOOM was.

If I found a KERNEL in the bottom of the tub, I would ask myself "what did I do in the water, and when did we have corn?"

PET SHOPS, at least the ones that don't sell puppies, often have adoption events on weekends. I've been to several at Petsmarts that were hosted by greyhound associations.

I have a utility that PINGs Google, Level 3 and OpenDNS to monitor my ISP's uptime performance. I suspect that millions of other people do that too, and it has to present a significant load on their servers. Maybe Bayou Tony will tell me it's a evil thing to do. (But I think the servers could also be configured to ignore PINGs.)

Thanks to Vu and Jessica for the challenging fun. And thanks to Bill 'n' Teri for the fine review. You are welcome for the help of the Norfolk Tides, the unnamed Oriole AAA club, for whipping young Jackson into MLB shape. ("Young" is right. When he first came to Norfolk last year, he had trouble getting a room at a local hotel. They told him he needed a parent with him, and didn't believe that he was a new player for the Tides. After becoming a star here last year, he didn't have any such trouble this year. Still needs to wait 5 years before he can rent a car, though.)

Anonymous said...

Took 11:58 today to for me to squash this one.

Unknowns for me today include: the actor, the composer, the Swan Lake role, and naturally, the French companion, the Spanish song, and Japanese broth.

The Sega Genesis clue was good - hadn't had that in a while. Sega crossed saga.

KS said...

FIR. The NW was the last to fall, and for a while it looked like my Waterloo. I just couldn't remember gopher and I ran through all the 4-letter states I could think of before Iowa came to me.
The theme was clever but not much help for the solve.
This was a typical Thursday puzzle, perhaps a tad harder than usual, but ultimately doable and enjoyable.

Big Easy said...

A big fat DNF today. The SW did me in. All the farmer fills were easy but didn't know BETH, had LETS for "Why not___?", and am not familiar with the word TROPE. Don't really understand 'Rescue supply spots' and PET SHOPS going together.

I filled KERNAL using perps but never thought about popcorn. The smell of ersatz butter in the movie popcorn tubs causes NAUSEA for me. On more than one occasion I've had to leave the theater due to the smell.
ODILE- learned that word from another crossword puzzle a few days ago.
DASHI, PEGG, OTRO- thank you perps; not even guessable for those unknowns
ANCHO was a guess for the C.C.'s friend Tom Pepper

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

I like this type of theme because of the wordplay, a feature we don't see as much as I'd like. My favorite theme C/A was Beet Generation, but they were all fun puns and stuck to the Farmers/Food thread. My favorite C/A was Part of an Order, perhaps=Monk. I tripped over Beep/Ping, Seth/Sega, and Lope/Trot and I hesitated at Dashi, Pegg, and Otro, until perps gave me the nudge I needed. Odile was a gimme, thanks to the recent reference. In addition to the clever theme, I appreciated the subtle misdirection of some of the cluing and, also, the minimal (11)) TLWs.

Nice job, Vu and Jessica, thank you, and thanks to Bill and Teri for the well-rounded commentary and links and videos. Enjoyed the many learning moments about so many different people and places and subjects ranging from the Arts to Sports and beyond. Thanks for elucidating and educating and entertaining with such tidbits as the Invisible Idiot translation!

FLN

Emma, thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts.

Lucina, hope you received a favorable report from the cardiologist.

Have a great day.

Anonymous said...

What a terrible puzzle.

Tehachapi Ken said...

Yikes--yesterday we had anagrams, and today puns. As someone once said (Groucho Marx?), a pun is the lowest form of humor--unless it was his pun.

I managed to FIR somehow, despite being assaulted by all sorts of clever misdirections and puns. Nice work, Hoang-Kim and Jessica.

53A KERN:
Jerome Kern collaborated with Oscar Hammerstein on the great musical "Show Boat" years before Hammerstein worked with Richard Rodgers on their string of wonderful musicals. Hammerstein did the lyrics, and Rodgers (and Kern before him) composed the music.

It so happens that I knew Dorothy Hammerstein, Oscar's widow. Shortly after I met her, I innocently mentioned something to the effect of Jerome Kern having written one of the greatest songs ever, "Ol' Man River" (from "Show Boat").

Bristling, Dorothy responded, "Young man, Jerry Kern did not write "Ol' Man River." My husband did." Ouch.

Husker Gary said...

Musings
-My favorite puzzles are like this one where there is some struggle but never a feeling of “ain’t no way”.
-Some of the cluing was fabulous: Exhibit A: MONK/KERNEL!
-PING: Using my Apple watch to find my iPhone
-My TODO list just got longer as my school just emailed for me to work this afternoon.
-The Traveling Wilbury’s song is great. I hope you saw the empty chair with the guitar in it saluting former member Roy Orbison who had passed away.
-Pitchers control a baseball by how they grip the SEAMS
-Of all the mayhem in football, TRIPPING is a penalty
-Recent IOWA caucuses chose Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum and Ted Cruz to be the Republican presidential candidate and did not select Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush or Donald Trump.
-Hilarious GOPHER solution
-Unique but gettable cluing for our cwd friend OTRO
-Bill and Teri, I really liked the write-up with great music and interesting info about TROPE.

Subgenius said...

T.K. @ 9:15 a.m.
Great story about Oscar Hammerstein’s widow and “ Ol’ Man River.” The things you learn on this site! Wow!

CanadianEh! said...

Testing Thursday. Thanks for the fun, Hoang-Kim and Jessica, and waseeley and Teri.
I decided to do the CW first this morning so that I wouldn’t be the last to post as I was last night. Mistake! Now I am behind on my TO DO list.
I did finally get the theme (and the Easter Eggs of SEASONAL and SEEDS already mentioned by waseeley. But I required several Google visits to complete - for ANCHO, DASHI and KERN. I should have remembered the first two. (Thanks for the KERN story, Tehachapi Ken - maybe I’ll remember the name now!)

Inkblots at LBJ as I thought of Bush before Johnson with that Texas location.
Gully before GABLE held me up too.

I See changed tense to SAW; SEE was needed at 64D.
I noted lots of water hidden in SEAsonal, SEAm, nauSEA, plus the obvious OCEAN.
Misdirections abounded - for KERNELS, PET STORES, AMIE (my Dugan was accompanied by Brie!), SEGA (like Irish Miss, I had the Bible name Seth).
But this Canadian did WAG IOWA (how many 4-letter states are there?!). (Hi KS)

Wishing you all a great day.

CrossEyedDave said...

It was a bit slow to get going due to the Thursday level difficulty, but a lot of fun to suss out...

Wasabi? a blast from the past...

(The above link was a rerun of a previous blog post...)

Charlie Echo said...

Nope. TITT. Just not on my wavelength today.

Anonymous said...

A clever offering from Hoang-Kim and Jessica.
I tripped over the trope and ethos but finally Beth from Little Women saved the SW corner and I FIR.

Thanks Bill and Teri for the 411 on “trope”but I’m still confused 🤔

….. kkflorida

Copy Editor said...

I liked the theme a lot, especially WORKING IN PEARS and BEET GENERATION. There were some speed bumps, including I SAW, the unfamiliar JERK MOVE expression, and the Southern OCEAN clue, but it was good to see Jerome KERN in the mix. Thanks for the song clip, Bill (hey that's a song title in "Showboat") and for the write-up.

Stephen Sondheim was Oscar Hammerstein’s protégé and related a hilarious anecdote about Kern, via Hammerstein. It involved Kern’s surprisingly ponderous, uninspired style while composing “All The Things You Are.”

I stopped eating popcorn years ago, because something always sticks to my craw, so it took me a while to feel sure about the KERNEL at the bottom of a tub.

I doubt I would have liked LBJ personally and I certainly wouldn’t have liked working for him, based on the info in Robert Caro’s biography series, but he is one of my favorite presidents. Never saw him in person, but did see Lynda Bird rushing down a White House hallway in 1967 and saw both Luci and Lady Bird at a University of Texas Journalism School event in 1997. How many people know Mrs. Johnson majored in journalism?

Lucina said...

Hola!

Thanks to Hoang-Kim Vu and Jessica Zetzman for today's entertainment. As I've said many times, I love puns and this puzzle has some good ones, especially BEET GENERATION.

I also love ballet so seeing ODILE brings back some good memories.

Handsome movie star from the forties would have been an apt clue for GABLE as in Clark.

ANCHO chiles, YUM! That evokes memories of my mother roasting them and the wonderful scents wafting from the kitchen.

IrishMiss: Thank you for asking. The result of my doctor visit is that I shall have to wear a monitoring device for three days and nights. It has been ordered and they'll call when it arrives. Oh, joy. He also assessed my meds and took me off one so that's good.

I was surprised to learn that it's LBJ's library in Austin and now I'm curious about the Bushes and where is their library.

I'm always happy to see musical references as well as literary ones. Today, Jerome KERN and ODILE in music and AHAB, BETH, EYRE in lit. Even ELMO fits in there.

I'm wishing you all a fine day!

Anonymous said...

Edward d in Los Angeles: Guam was an amazing adventure and beautiful culture. I was project engineer for the design and construction of the Mt Santa Rosa FAA radar installation for Anderson AFB.

Edward Duarte said...

60A: what a clever clue and funny answer!

Tehachapi Ken said...

Copy Editor--

Glad that my anecdote about Dorothy Hammerstein and Jerome Kern provoked some interest. I do need to redirect your comment though, about Bill's song clip. You said that it is from "Show Boat."
Nope-- it's "The Way You Look Tonight," indeed written by Kern, but during his Hollywood years. It was written for Fred Astaire in the movie "Swing Time."

Also, a minor note, but as a copy editor, you should know that Oscar Hammerstein based his libretto of "Show Boat" on Edna Ferber's novel of the same name. It's always two words.

I love that you brought up Stephen Sondheim. He did not get along with his parents, and since he loved Oscar (Ockie) and Dorothy Hammerstein, they became his de facto parents. Whenever I was with Dorothy and she would talk about her family, she always--with misty eyes--included her Stevie.

Their home was outside Philadelphia, and Sondheim growing up spent more time down there than New York, his home. He literally studied at the master's feet (Ockie's), and you nailed it: he was Hammerstein's protege. When Dorothy died a few years ago, Sondheim was hysterical at her funeral.




Chairman Moe said...

Puzzling thoughts:

FIR with several write-overs in the SW corner; ODILE, TROPE, and BOTH (as clued) tripped me up. My other write-over was when PING for page didn't register right away, though I should have known "NDAs"

This cover of Jerome Kern's "The Way You Look Tonight" is one of my favorites. Tony certainly raises Faith's voice into the mood this song evokes

Thanks Bill and Teri for your recap, and always appreciate constructors who can create word play

Copy Editor said...

Tehachapi Ken: I'll concede you got me on "Show Boat," a sloppy mistake I fortunately didn't make when I reviewed the Houston Grand Opera's definitive production in 1982 after its tour stop in Seattle. But the "Bill" I was referring to IS a song in "Show Boat."

I've seen "Six By Sondheim" on HBO about five times now, including last weekend.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was a great puzzle! I thoroughly enjoyed it!

RosE said...

Greetings, I worked most of the puzzle this morning, stalled in west middle & SW & I needed to walk away then come back for a second look. Then I had to turn my attention to other things before I could return for my comment.
Fun theme, thanks, Hoang-Kin Vu and Jessica Zetzman.
I had to look up PTSD, and OTRO (unknown) & BETH (forgotten from decades ago.)
WO: GWB -> LBJ.
Perps for the unknown ODILE & PEGG.
Thanks to Bil & Teri for summing it up in grand style.

Jayce said...

I learned some pretty interesting and useful things today.

Entirely independently from this blog or doing crossword puzzles, I also just learned of a legal proceeding called a Sandoval hearing, which I found interesting.

Tehachapi Ken said...

Copy Ed:

Yes, "Bill," or "My Bill," is a song from "Show Boat." But that's not the clip that Bill/Waseeley provided in his blog intro. That clip is Fred Astaire singing "The Way You Look Tonight," from the movie Swing Time."

But you inadvertently hit me in a vulnerable spot, because I think "Bill" from "Show Boat" represents a high point of American theater. I am incapable of watching this song dry-eyed.

In the 1951 "Show Boat" movie with an all-star cast, "Bill" is sung by Ava Gardner. People during her career complained because whenever Ava Gardner sang in a film, her voice was dubbed. Well, that's pretty much true. But not here.

People campaigned not to dub her. People like Oscar Hammerstein, the film's director George Sidney, and of course Ava Gardner herself. Ava won out--and we all did. I defy anyone to watch her and not tear up, knowing that this is about the only time you're ever going to hear Ava Gardner's singing voice (and it was quite a good voice). And she was such a consummate actor, you feel that it is her character, not Ava Gardner, singing about her sweet Bill.

GarlicGal said...

Best misdirected clue ever... "Part of an order, perhaps". I filled in MONK but still didn't get it until checking the blog! Now that was a good one.

Lucina, I have been tethered to a heart monitor since Monday. The worse is having that unit and all the cords hanging on you. I finally got out an OLD fanny pack (boy, I had to search through a lot of stuff), put the unit in it and strapped it around my waist. So much more comfortable than trying to wear it over my head and shoulder. Freedom tomorrow! Hope you are doing well.



NaomiZ said...

My puzzling was postponed to the afternoon, and my commenting to the evening, but I have to say that I enjoyed the challenge and FIR. This was one of those puzzles that felt impossible and yet filled bit by bit. The punny farmer clues actually helped with the solve. I loved BEET GENERATION. As others have said, MONK was a delightful "part of an order" and SEGA was a clever "Genesis name."

DNK MiLB level, composer Jerome, Swan Lake role, or Simon of Mission Impossible, and did not care because perps were fair.

Thank you, Hoang-Kim, Jessica, Patti, Bill and Teri!

sumdaze said...

Thanks to Hoang-Kim and Jessica for their Thurs. challenge! The SW was the last to fall.
FAVs: Pre-deal payment and Groupthink?
I noticed DASHI, WASABI, and UDON. We also had KERN and KERNAL.

Thanks to waseeley for all the time and research he puts into his weekly blogs! This grid included a wide range of topics. I needed your help understanding what type of tub was in 36-A. Thanks for the Traveling Wilburys, too! Good stuff!
Just one thing, are you including PTSD as a type of depression? I am pretty sure that is not the case. Perhaps you were saying that SSRIs are used to treat both depression and PTSD.

Lucina said...

I've never heard of Sandoval in this context and it calls for some research on my part since that is my maiden name.

Anonymous said...

A rescue fog you’ve adopted needs food and other supplies from the pet store 😎 ====> D.

Anonymous said...

*dog — doggone it!!

Prof M said...

I ditto Anon