Jul 15, 2008

Tuesday July 15, 2008 Allan E. Parrish

Theme: LIGHT (30D: Word after 20A, 54A, 11D and 29D)

20A: Home-purchase investigation: TITLE SEARCH

54A: Fighter flier: COMBAT PILOT

11D: Gary Larson's comic: THE FAR SIDE

29D: Decoration for valor: BRONZE STAR

Sub-theme: "CAR TALK"

62A: Saab model: AERO

22D: Automobiles: CARS

28D: Autobahn auto: AUDI

58D: REO maker: OLDS

This puzzle is very similar to the ROOM puzzle we had on July 11, though it has one less theme answer. Structurally speaking, this grid is superior, with LIGHT emitting from the very center and brightening up the whole grid. "ROOM" was placed at the very end of the puzzle last Friday.

The clue for 30D is regrettably inaccurate again. It should be the "Word after the end of 20A, 54A, 11D and 29D). A simple "Theme of the puzzle" will just be fine. Or, to make the puzzle fun, clue LIGHT as "Not heavy" and have the solvers struggling to find the theme. A precious "Aha" moment is woefully missed.

I can think of Candlelight & Moonlight right now, what other LIGHT can you think of?


1A: Drawn out periods: AGES. Is it a good clue to you? "Drawn out" brings the sports overtime play to my mind.

14A: Controversial 1987 Supreme Court nominee: BORK (Robert). This Johann Sebastian BORK Get Lei'd CD sounds wonderful.

18A: ___ Royale, MI: ISLE. Not familiar with this island. Odd name, part English, part French.

19D: Done in: SPENT. Why? "Do in" means "off"/"slays", doesn't it?

24A: Utah ski resort: ALTA. Unknown to me. These flowers look so happy to be at Devil's Castle.

25A: Make bubbly: AERATE. I still don't understand why golf courses AERATE their greens in the fall.

27A: Hack driver: CABBIE

40A: USMC rank: SGT. There is also a subtle military sub-theme flowing in the grid. SGT, COMBAT PILOT and BRONZE STAR. ELITE (21D: Type of type) also reminds me of the Navy Seals. I was so disappointed last night when Jesse Ventura, our ex-governor/ex-Navy Seal, announced on "Larry King Live" that he would not run for the Senate seat. He is really a hard man, with "The Body".

41A: Inuit craft: UMIAK. Completely foreign to me. Dictionary says it originated from "Umiaq" (woman's boat). "Kayak", on the the other hand, means "man's boat). That's a rather large UMIAK. Strange "Skull-and-crossbones site", Yale bonesmen I suppose?

42A: Marchetti or Cappelletti: GINO. I know neither of them. Sewed the answer together from the down fills. Sounds like opera singers.

46A: Gung-ho so-and-so: ZEALOT. I've never seen "so-and-so" in any clue before.

48A: Socialist Debs: EUGENE. No idea. I thought of some society "debutantes". Delve into here for more information on him.

50A: Cardin of fashion: PIERRE. I like their leather wallets.

60A: Quantity of cookies: BATCH. The "BATCH" here refers to the unbaked cookies, right?

65A: Welsh actor Novello: IVOR. Another unknown. Wikipedia says he was also a singer and composer. And there is an IVOR Novello Award given to songwriters every year in London. Do we have a similar award in the US?

66A: Muslim pilgrimage: HADJ. Or HAJJ. Gimme.

67A: Legal wrongs: TORTS

68A: Big apple letters: NYNY


4D: Early space station: SKYLAB (1973-1979)

7D: Tex. neighbor: OKLA. And 51D: Gem State: IDAHO. Hmm, I can picture Lois philosophizing in front of her computer on these two clues, and I can see the TWISTER (5D: Tornado) swirling in her mind.

6D: Minor prophet: HOSEA. Saw it often clued as "Old testament book". Did not know that "HOSEA" is Hebrew for "salvation".

36D: "Home improvement" co-star: KARN (Richard). I did not pay attention to his real name before. I actually saw several episodes of "Home improvement" (in Chinese) before I came to the US.

37D: Kind of terrier: SKYE. It has appeared twice in TMS puzzle since I started blogging.

44D: Vicarage: RECTORY

47D: Insteps: ARCHES

49D: Japanese companion: GEISHA. "Japanese men's companion", to be exact. And 59D: Japanese dictator: TOJO (Hideki). Evil man.

50D: Big name in brewing: PABST. How old do you think this tray is? I like the slogan: "It's blended, it's splendid"!

52D: Mr. Copland: AARON. No, not a familiar name to me. Baseball's "Hammerin" Hank ARRON, yes! I was so elated that Justin Morneau won the Home Run Derby last night. Oh, I strayed, back to Copland, Wikipedia says Leonard Bernstein "was considered the finest conductor of Copland's works". Was he a gimme to you?

56D: Group of girls: BEVY. New to me also. I was only aware of "a BEVY of bird".

61D: Part of TV: CRT (Cathode -Ray Tube)



Dennis said...

Good morning, C.C. and gang - I tried something different this morning -- just the across clues. Fortunately, it was an extremely easy puzzle and I got through it without pause. Of course, the downside of doing it that way is that you don't get to enjoy the down clues/answers. The only word I didn't know was 36D.

C,C., I agree that 'drawn out periods' was a bit weak for 'ages'. Didn't understand the need for 'so-and-so' either. And I think a 'batch' of cookies can apply to baked ones as well.

C.C., you need look no further than this blog to see a 'bevy' of beauties.

Also, always nice to see a nod to the Marine Corps. Hope everyone has an outstanding day.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Is IVOR (65A) very well-known?

Dennis said...

C.C., I don't think so; it's just one of those unusual names that stuck in a corner of my mind.

C.C. Burnikel said...

I think I am tangibly corrupted. I read your 36D, and I think of something else.

Dennis said...

"Tangibly corrupted", huh? This from someone who professed a few days ago to being "totally incorruptible". Told ya.

Dick said...

Good morning Cc and Dennis and other DFs. Not too bad today as I raced through the north half of the puzzle. As I got to the southern half I sort of faltered and needed help getting 52D and 36D. While Googling for Mr. Copeland I hit the link listed below and, although it was the wrong Mr. Copeland, I though Cc, Lois and the others DFs would enjoy this Mr. Copeland.

Dick said...

Cc a batch of cookies can refer to baked as well as unbaked quantities. I also thought the clue for 1A was a poor clue.

Kim said...

Good morning everyone! This one wasn't too bad, but I had no clue on Ivor, bevy, the Capek play, but I came close!

Dennis, sorry about the bumpy ride down. At least it wasn't due to a hurricane! My hubby said we've been getting a lot of rain lately, which we do need desperately!

I didn't see the Red Skelton Pledge until today, but it does bring back memories and I am in agreement with all of you....everyday, everyone.

Thank you all for the congrats on my new granddaughter! ...and yes, she is a beauty!

Dr. Dad said...

Guten Morgen! Another 5 minute puzzle.
The Umiak had a skull and crossbones on it. Does that mean it is poison?
A batch of cookies, fresh and warm out of the oven (OMG, fresh and warm will get Lois going).
What else do you think of for 36D, C.C.? I'm lost.
Does Robert Bork wear a swan dress like Björk?
Remember the antique auto controversy with OLDS awhile back?
I sit on my deck with Tiki torches ablaze so I think of torchlight.
Do combat pilots fly in the "skye" in their "aero" planes?
I saw Skylab through a telescope when it was coming down to earth in 1979. It just looked like a bigger spot of "light" through the lens. By the way, notice we have skye terrier and skylab. And with "pilot", "trains", and "cars" we are getting close to the movie "Planes, Trains, And Automobiles." Not a bad movie that starrred John Candy.

Enough of this ranting and raving. If it wasn't so early I would go and have a Pabst - the only beer product with a piece of the label not attached (the ribbon ends) to the bottle.

Today is Saint Swithin’s Day.
On this day in 971 CE, the relics of the Bishop of Winchester, Saint Swithin, were entombed in Winchester Cathedral. English tradition teaches that since it rained heavily that day, July 15th will mark the start of a 40-day rainy season.
Clement C. Moore was born in 1779. Author of "A Visit From St. Nicholas" (not "The Night Before Christmas"). Rembrandt was born in 1606.

Have a great day.

Dennis said...

drdad, today is also "Cow Appreciation Day".
This one seems udderly ridiculous to me.

Katherine said...

Good morning everyone. I baaaaaaaack!
The only place that gave me a problem today was 62A, 65A and 68A. I just couldn't get that.
I also did not care for the clue for 1A, but I did get it.
I am from Michigan, but did not know Isle Royale was from here. It is way up in the UP I think.
41A and 48A were unknown to me also.
Have a great day everyone.

Bill said...

Hi All, Not a bad day till the whole SE corner!!
52d, 44d, 48a, 66a, 65a.
Not that I didn't know, just a memory thing. Have heard all except AARON, HADJ, and IVOR.
Had to call Mr.Google for the first time in a while!!
Who'd a thunk it??? Idaho!! Potatoes, right?? And GEMS also I now learn!! WOW, will the learning never stop?? Makes no difference anyway. I won't remember in the morning!!!

C.C. Burnikel said...

I was thinking of the Damned Good 36D . Besides 2 SKY's, there are also two hidden SEA's. Yes, I do remember our OLDS discussion awhile back.

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

For the most part, I found today's puzzle a bit on the bland and easy side (helped, in part, by the fact that I've spent time both in Utah and Idaho and therefore got 24A and 51D without blinking).

Things got a little weird at the end when I hit the SE corner, since I didn't know who EUGENE Debs was (I also thought the clue was referring to debutantes), couldn't remember Richard KARN, and had no idea who IVOR Novello was. I got IVOR from the perps once I realized that 56D was BEVY (I've always used the word to refer to specific groups of women, like a bevy of blondes or a bevy of brunettes). KARN and EUGENE stumped me for a bit because they share a letter, but once I figured out that 48A was looking for a name and not a synonym for debutante, I realized that it pretty much had to be EUGENE since no other letter would make a recognizable name.

Oh -- and I completely missed the clue for 18A. I got it completely from the perps and never even saw it.

Anybody else thing the cluing for 61A needs a bit updating? Instead of calling a CRT "part of a TV" I think it's time to start calling it "part of some TVs."

C.C. Burnikel said...

I agree with your CRT take. I remember last time you had some beef about a HDTV clue too.

Dennis et al,
Do you guys like jolie laides also?

flyingears said...

Muy Buenos Días, amigos y amigas!!!

ROYALE was an answer to a clue some years ago, maybe 5 years ago.

IVOR Novello has been in X/W puzzles I work in another local paper so it was a nice given... He has been dead for years.

Never heard of Debs and he would not be my type of politician either...

I wish Larson's "The Far Side" continued. Always enjoy some of his "brutal" and unique jokes...

PIERRE Cardin has been absent for a long time and I'm glad he's back into the picture.

Dr. Dad said...

C.C. - now I see. 36D is good to me.

flyingears said...

"Fear is an instinct. Courage is a choice."
Rear Admiral Joseph Kernan USN

Dr. Dad said...

C.C. - jolie laide. It depends. Ugly but pretty can be confusing. Sarah Jessica Parker was classed as a jolie laide when someone said she was the "most unsexiest woman in the world." Some think she is great. What one person defines as ugly another can describe as pretty. How does one define "unconventional beauty" and "oddly attractive?" Beauty is skin deep? Maybe.

KittyB said...

Good morning, c.c. and friends!

This was a quick one. I made it through without Googling, but needed perps to fill in some of the words. UMIAK, HADJ, IVOR and ALTA were new to me.

c.c.- did the humor of "Home Improvement" translate well?

Aaron Copeland is one of our more famous 20th century composers. I think "Fanfare for the Common Man" would be the piece you would most likely recognize. I discovered that Woody Herman, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, STYX and Asia have all either played it in full, or borrowed the thematic material for their own songs. Copeland is well known for "Appalachian Spring," and "Rodeo," which are ballets, and "The Red Pony," which started as a movie score, and morphed into an orchestral piece., the English are going to slide right off into the ocean! My friends tell me they have been getting torrential rains there. Forty more days of rain will do them in.

Kim, nice to see you back. That baby is a cutie!

Have a good day, all!

Dick said...

It looks like part of Mr Copeland's link fell off so I will try again.

Hope this works as I do not know how to attach a link.

MH said...

CC, I have to say that I cannot imagine Home Improvement being broadcast in China and in Chinese. It seems so uniquely American in both culture and humor. Do the situations "translate"? One of my favorite shows, BTW.

Spent and "done in" can mean that one is very tired: "After the 10K race she was completely spent".

Batch works for cookies whether baked or not.

Good puzzle, good theme. Had some difficulty bottom center. Didn't understand clue 46A: Gung-ho and so-so. So-so means below average to me. I got "zealot" ok but just didn't GROK (that word again) the clue.

Dennis said...

mh, it's actually "so-and-so", as in 'that dirty so-and-so'. I didn't understand why it was there, when 'gung-ho person' would suffice.

Dick said...

Cc Gino Cappelletti (born March 26, 1934) is a former American college and professional football player. He played collegiately at the University of Minnesota

MH said...

Dennis: still don't get it with "so-and-so". I wouldn't use "That dirty zealot". The only thing I can think of is that he meant so-SO as in "He is so SO crazy about that baseball team".

Dennis said...

mh, I think he meant to emphasize the negative connotation of 'zealot', as being a fanatic often can be a negative thing.

Superfrey said...

Nice Puzzle.... easy one though....
Kim... Congrats on your granddaughter... I have been away for a while... what are the details.
We have had a lot of rain in SW FL... our ponds our overflowing now... from one extreme to the next.
C.C. Congrats on Justin winning the Home Run Derby last night :-)

C.C. Burnikel said...

Dennis @5:51am,
I've decided, to quote Anaïs Nin, that "the risk it took to remain tight in bud was indeed more painful than the risk it took to blossom." So, do you like only "Bevy of beauties" or jolie laides as well?

Flyingears @7:25am,
I am a very instinctive person. Guess why I follow fear so often. Who is your pick for the British Open?

KittyB & MH,
The translation of "Home Improvement" is pretty good. I did not totally grok the fun though, layers of cultural shock.

Thank you for GINO C. Wow, I thought he was an opera singer.

Thank you! Morneau made me so proud last night. But the night indeed belonged to Hamilton.

Crockett1947 said...

Good morning everyone. New names today were GINO, IVOR, and KARN. I like the clues for 21D and 46A. Misread 34D as "In the manner of" and finally saw the error of my ways. Expending all of ones energy can also be termed being "done in." BATCH is just a quantity, baked or unbaked. AARON Copland was definitely a gimme. Kim, nice picture, proud granny!

carol said...

Good Morning C.C. and gang, Liked this puzzle! Only trouble was the SE area but it came together after some strain on the brain(or what is left of it). No Mr. Google or help from C.C. either (yea)

As to words with "light": I came up with: Sunlight, Electric light, Gas light, Firelight.

Nice poisonous Umiak :)

Regarding 60A; a batch refers to the amount of cookies a recipe will make, no so much whether they are baked or unbaked.

Dennis said...

Well, gang, our mission's been successful. We've swung C.C. over to the dark side. God knows what links she'll be showing us now...

And C.C., I love 'em all.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Carol et al,
Thank you for the "BATCH" of cookies. I've had the wrong impression all these years. They've never been "BATCH" to me hot out of oven. I like "Sunlight" & "Firelight", solid one-word LIGHTS.

Too strong a TWISTER can blow the flower away.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Barry @ 6:45am,
Did your "Bevy of blond" comment have some bimbo undertone?

Barb B said...

Easier for me than yesterday.

Knew the words umiak and hadj only as scrabble words, so I had to get them from the crosses. Also didn’t know Eugene Debs, good clue.

Wouldn’t have known olds (reo) without previous discussions here.

I’ve always used the word batch as a measure for cookies – one batch equals about 3 dozen.

Barry G. said...

Barry @ 6:45am,
Did your "Bevy of blond" comment have some bimbo undertone?

Not at all! Although it was certainly implied that the bevy of blondes or brunettes were, in fact, beautiful.

Anonymous said...

mark - Buenos Aires

Please excuse my ignorance Dennis but what is a "deadheading" stewardess. My mother in law used to deadhead a lot (the roses), but I dont understand your context. I´m serious, if it is smuttie, - well, I´m English, not used to the way of the world!!!

Anonymous said...


A deadheading stewardess is one who is flying but is not on duty. They often fly free to return home or to get to a location where they are to go back on duty.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Thanks for the quick response. Your "BEVY" of blondes & brunettes comment prompted me to ask the jolie laides question earlier. Can you say a BEVY of jolie laides?

Ha ha! I am eagerly waiting for our ELITE MOREL/Mile High club member to explain this to you.

Anonymous said...


Re: 25A

Golf Courses aerate their greens for two reasons. The first is to oxygenate the soil. The second is to allow better penetration of water into the roots of the grass. Both help produce better root development and therefore healthier greens.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Anonymous @ 12:28pm,
But why fall? Why not spring?

flyingears said...

C.C., my pick this year is harder than previous years. Jim Furyk could be the one as Kenny Perry won't be there... I also believe that one of the younger player, who are very good, could win this year. I don't see any European winning... Too many good Americans in the cartel...

Argyle said...

Good mid-day everyone,

My gaffe of the day was elevating Dorothy's little dog to the rank of Japanese dictator.

New people:
Gino Marchetti and Cappelletti - both were football players
Eugene Debs
Ivor Novello - David Ivor Davies His mother was Clara Novello Davies. I wonder if this aliteration affected Tom Marvolo Riddle.

New book - Rur

New place - Alta

New term - from the comments, "jolie laide" I have a thing for Frances McDormand

light word - limelight

an aside; a bevy of birds, birds is British slang for girls, ergo, a bevy of girls.

Dr. Dad said...

The comment made by "anonymous" regarding a deadheading stewardess is correct. She is flying for free in order to, for example, get to her next assignment or to get home and is not charged for it. Of course she could be a "deadhead" "deadheading" stewardess that means she is a boring and stupid (definition of the first deadhead) stewardess who is traveling for free (definition of the second deadhead).
Still, I'm with C.C. and can't wait for the dysfunctional answers that your question is going to lead to!!!! Should be a blast.

Dr. Dad said...

Argyle - if you elevated poor Toto to a Japanese dictator, he certainly isn't in Kansas anymore.

Dr. Dad said...

A bevy of blondes or brunettes has to be better than that "thing" from a puzzle awhile back - a nide of pheasants!

Bill said...

Re: jolie laide---- Remember "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
So, while some may see one thing others may be on cloud nine!

Anonymous said...


The aeration process puts holes in the sod. The holes affect the smoothness of the surface and makes putting more challenging. Golfing typically drops off drastically in the fall and winter so the surfaces aren't as critical for those who want to play no matter what the weather may be. If they're nuts enough to be out playing golf in bad weather they'll accept the uneven greens. The secondary reason is that the grass doesn't grow much over the winter(and that includes the South). But, the plants are still busy growing a healthy root system... hence the aeration and better water distribution to those roots. Welcome to economics/biology 101.

btw - I enjoy the blog. Just discovered it last week. You guys are so far ahead time-wise. I'm on the west coast and you guys already have it solved while I'm still asleep. But, that's ok! I don't look till I'm stumped. Then I give myself a high-five to the forehead and mutter something obscene about my self inflected stupidity.

Barry G. said...

Thanks for the quick response. Your "BEVY" of blondes & brunettes comment prompted me to ask the jolie laides question earlier. Can you say a BEVY of jolie laides?

You could, I suppose, but the humor of the term is in its alliteration. Or, at least, that's how I always used it.

Anonymous said...


Re: yur 1:09 post

Next time I'll put on my George Carlin hat before I open this blog site. Oh, yeah! He didn't wear a hat. There goes that high-five to the forehead.

Dr. Dad said...

Does jolie laides imply that Angelina Jolie is ugly but pretty?

MH said...

Or a stewardess who is a Grateful Dead fan...

Anonymous said...

Another 5-minute solve for me today. Went right through it. Bing, bam, boom. :)

I'm ok with the clue for 1A. As in "I haven't seen you in ages!"

Also agree about the awkward cluing for 30D. More typically this type of answer is clued something like, "a word that can follow the ends of" the noted theme clues.

I'll go along with the two "SKY" answers without complaint since one can't be spelled without the "e".

I remember Gino Marchetti from my childhood as he played football with the Baltimore Colts (that's where I'm originally from). After he retired, he opened a chain of hamburger restaurants that were eventually bought out and became the Roy Rogers chain. Which I think may also be gone now, but they made great roast beef sandwiches. Of course, the Baltimore Colts are now the Indianapolis Colts, having sneaked out of town under cover of night. But I digress, sorry.

All in all, a nice puzzle today.


Dennis said...

C.C., they've answered it far better than I could.
And what's with "Elite morel" member??

Argyle, I think Emporer Toto would've done a better job...

carol said...

Well, well, Dennis you should offer the explanation to annon Mark about "flying the friendly skys" :) You seem to have first "hand" knowledge of deadheading stewardess's..must have been fun in all that turbulence, or were you the ones creating it??

embien said...

9:30 today. Ugh.

Unknown for me (got from the crosses):

Interesting to have both AERATE and AERO in the puzzle. Now if only we had had AERIE (eagle's nest), we would have had an "AE" trifecta!

anonymous 1:25: Don't worry about being late to the party. There are several of us on the West Coast, and I don't even solve the puzzle until after I get home from breakfast and after I do the NYT puzzle, so usually like 1PM or so Pacific. Most everything has already been said before I arrive, so I am reduced to adding drivel to the blog (this entry being an example, grin).

lois said...

Dennis: I think we all understand how you got your point across in deadheading stewardesses. Did you fly 'United' Airline?

Carol: You are sooo funny!

Dennis said...

Carol & Lois, it was just a mistake on my part -- I thought the slogan, "Come fly the friendly skies" had a comma...

KittyB said...

C.C., don't you think dinner with this group would be a HOOT!!!?

We need to organize a fly in, preferably to Chicago, (so I don't have to fly), and hit one of the great restaurants for dinner.

Barring that....maybe we could fly down to visit chrisinla in January, when your blog has it's first anniversary. Warm weather sounds good about that time of year.

Perhaps bill would play and lois and carol could entertain! lol

C.C. Burnikel said...

Dr.Dad @1:51pm,
Angelina Jolie is pretty pretty, there is no "laideur" in her name.

Anonymous @1:25pm,
Embien is right, don't worry about being late. Many fellow solvers do come back every morning to read the comments from the previous day. Please pick up a name for yourself so we can identify you. Thank you so much for the aeration explanation. It's been bothering me for a long time.

I consider an ex-Marine, a man who served bravely for this country and gave "handsome tip" to a stewardess miles high, to be of ELITE MORAL/MOREL force.

lois said...

Dennis: Holy Cow! Just a comma? How about an exclamation mark? I'm sure there were a lot of exclamations being 'udder'ed.

carol said...

kittyb, A "fly-in"??!!WOW, now that's a thought and a half! Can you imagine this group on a plane? There would be a "whole lotta shakin'goin'on"!! :)
We'd probably cause all the oxygen masks to drop before we even left the ground. :)

carol said...

Where is melissab? Hope she found her way home!!!

lois said...

Carol & kittyb: Taking a trip w/this group would be sensational! However, considering Dennis' penchant for deadheading stewardesses, it might be safer to take the train. We would give 'loco'motive a whole new meaning and really rock and roll! Although I don't think anything would keep Dennis from being so generous no matter how we travel. On a train he would surely
'engineer' a way to share his wealth, but he could just get his own boxcar. What d'ya think?

carol said...

Too bad trains don't have a caboose anymore...that being the "rear" car, Dennis would be in his element!

carol said...

cc: there is a littel "garbage can" symbol under my last few comments. (right below the time) Would you be able to tell me what that means? I have never seen it before. Am I doing something wrong?

Dennis said...

Well, I've got a great train story too, but I can't tell it.
The train idea is a great one - we could call it "The Orgyent Express".
And the sleeping car would become a misnomer...

lois said...

Dennis, you are sooo funny! Besides getting your own boxcar, we could get a double decker and really have a good time. It's all in presentation and how you stack 'em.

Crockett1947 said...

Carol, that trash can means you can delete the post. Only the poster can see that symbol for their postings.