20. Cuban missile crisis strategy: NAVAL EMBARGO. A VALE is a long depression in the land, usually between two hills and containing a river.
31. Web app for the latest: GOOGLE NEWS. A GLEN is a valley that is long and bounded by gently sloped concave sides.
41. Pre-wedding show: BRIDAL EXPO. DALE is a synonym of the word valley.
Melissa here. Grokking this theme would have been more difficult without the circles. See the valley hidden in each theme answer? I can imagine the light going on in George Jasper's head when seeing the words 'Hidden Valley.'
Across:
1. Bare-bones: BASIC.
6. Out of concern that: LEST.
10. Distance runner's concern: PACE. Cramp or spasm was my first thought - too many letters.
14. Early Greek public space: AGORA. The agora (ἀγορά) was a central public space in ancient Greek city-states. It is the best representation of a city-state's response to accommodate the social and political order of the polis. The literal meaning of the word "agora" is "gathering place" or "assembly."
15. Excessively: Pref.: OVER.
16. Aerosol target: ODOR. Not hair.
17. Mall map clarification: YOU ARE HERE. Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot.
19. Half a patio pair: TONG. First thought was chairs.
22. Uncertainties: IFS.
25. Even the queen, in chess: MAN. Not necessarily. Another interesting fact for those who watched The Queen's Gambit, in this NYT article. If you can't get past the NYT paywall, here's a different article about the same thing, with a link to the 25-page complaint.
26. Beat in a hot dog contest: OUTEAT. I can't watch those eating contests. Because ew.
27. Like nobility: TITLED.
29. Slow movement: LARGO.
33. What 15 U.S. presidents formerly were, briefly: VPS. I would have guessed more than 15.
36. Son of Chingachgook, in a Cooper novel: UNCAS.
37. Be in the red: OWE.
38. Hustle: CHEAT. Or this hustle.
40. Shaggy pack animal: YAK.
43. Frequents dive bars, say: SLUMS.
45. Pretentious type: POSEUR. Another term for poser - someone who pretends to be something he is not.
46. Key participant: PLAYER.
49. NBA tiebreakers: OTS. Overtimes.
50. Water holder: DAM.
55. Opposed to, in dialect: AGIN. Surprisingly, AGIN is a valid Scrabble word.
56. Start of a proverb for which Ben Franklin is credited: EARLY TO BED. "... early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise."
60. It's about a foot: SHOE.
61. "Star Trek: T.N.G." counselor: TROI.
63. Online craft shop: ETSY.
64. Newcastle's river: TYNE.
65. Summer Triangle star: DENEB. The Summer Triangle is an amalgamation of stars from three separate constellations. Three stars make up the triangle: Deneb, Vega and Altair.
Down:
1. __ window: BAY.
2. Before now: AGO.
3. Thing of little worth: SOU. A thing of the smallest value. Not sure I've ever heard this word.
4. Turkey neighbor: IRAN.
5. Whitman's Sampler choices: CARAMELS.
6. "Freaky Friday" actress Lindsay: LOHAN.
7. First name in daredevilry: EVEL. 8 of Evel Knievel’s Most Memorable Stunts.
8. Saharan: SERE.
9. Shakes: TREMORS.
10. One may be sweet: POTATO. Obscure clue, perps to the rescue.
11. Love to death: ADORE.
12. __ line: CONGA.
13. Cereal killer: ERGOT. Another unknown for me. A fungal disease of rye and other cereals in which black elongated fruiting bodies grow in the ears of the cereal.
18. Artfully escape: EVADE.
21. Listening device: BUG. Has anyone seen the documentary MLK/FBI?
22. Company's tech guru: IT GUY.
23. "Shrek" princess: FIONA.
24. Keep in the supply room: STOCK.
28. NYC airport on Flushing Bay: LGA. LaGuardia Airport is a civil airport in East Elmhurst, Queens, New York City.
29. Civil rights legend John: LEWIS. February 21, 1940 - July 17, 2020.
30. Blown away: AWED.
32. What do you expect?: NORM. Nice clue.
33. Put out: VEXED.
34. __ New Guinea: PAPUA.
35. Perfect thing that's not beneficial: STORM. The Perfect Storm is a great book and movie.
38. Like idiomatic skeletons: CLOSETED.
39. Tom, Dick and Harry: HES. Not men.
41. TV host/comedian with 23 Emmy nominations: BURNETT. Carol.
42. In a suitable manner: APTLY.
43. New South Wales capital: SYDNEY.
44. Jeans brand: LEE.
46. Part of a process: PHASE.
47. __-year: LIGHT. The distance light travels in one year. Or this guy ...
48. "So long, amigo": ADIOS.
49. Skateboard move: OLLIE. The trick that revolutionized skateboarding.
52. Fluctuate: VARY.
53. "East of Eden" twin: ARON.
54. Bygone days: YORE.
57. Stop legally: BAN.
58. Austin-to-Houston dir.: ESE.
42 comments:
Good morning!
Oh, gee. That was the story of my solve. LARDO, nope, LARGO. BUD, nope, BUG. And that's why they invented Wite-Out. This was a nice slalom to the bottom with only a few moguls here and there. Nice SO to Lucina at DALE. Thanx, George and Melissa Bee. (I'm surprised you weren't familiar with SOU or ERGOT. They're old cw staples.)
AGORA: d-o's favorite phobia.
Austin-to-Houston: We've been there a few times. Looks like an easy hop. It's 165 miles one-way.
FIR today with two changes. Like DO I first wrote BUd/BUG. Perps also alerted me to another error: STOre/STOCK. HIDDEN VALLEY was a good reveal for our circled themers today. Didn't expect it, George. Thanks for the interesting puzzle.
Thanks, Melissa B for your excellent review. It's always interesting to read what different things people are familiar with. SOU and ERGOT were known to me, but not UNCAS and TROI.
Hope everyone has a productive day today.
FIRight. A little bit crunchy, but not too bad. The theme was so-so (better than meh, but not by much).
EARLY TO BED may have been Ben's advice,
And were I a farmer, I'd not think twice.
But were I a roué
(And Ben was, too)
I'd think staying out late would be nice!
Network censors at "I Dream of Jeannie"
Banned belly buttons, even with a bikini!
A belly dancer costume
Forbidden to thus bloom,
Was the "NAVEL" EMBARGO decreed by some meanie!
LIGHT determines the PHASE of the Moon
Whether a crescent or gibbous rune.
A bowl of milk, never spilling,
Or heaped with rice, OVER-filling,
The bowl to the horizon ever will loom!
{A, A-, B+.}
FIR, but erased pang for PACE, total for NAVAL EMBARGO, men for MAN, emu for YAK, ere for AGO, arid for SERE, and IT ace for GUY. DNK LARGO (except for the Bertie Higgins tune), UNCAS, TYNE, DENEB, ERGOT, and PAPUA.
Thanks for the fun challenge, George. I thought it was tough for Wednesday, but I'm sure others will find it Monday-easy. And thanks to Melissa for the interesting tour.
Tomorrow I'm taking my house (actually my motor home) to the shop to get the washer/dryer replaced. We'll be back to our beautiful lot before nightfall. I just heard a bunch of sandhill cranes noisily flying buy. Such beautiful birds. And after a couple of weeks at below-average temperatures, looks like we'll be in the upper 70s and low-to-mid 80s for the next week or two. Florida is good.
Took me 9:18 to reach the valley today.
The trickiest for me today was "bar" v. "ban" for Deneb (Dereb looks just as good/bad to me). Vexed crossing poseur was next in line.
Oh joy, circles.
Enjoyed the theme - and marched right through this one - except WEES about BUD to BUG. Waited for perps to decide IRAN or Iraq? The word DENEB just looks wrong - but remembered from some brain recess and the perps were strong.
Thanks to Melissa and George!
Heading to our state Capitol today to testify at a hearing as to why the Missouri Academy of Family Physicians thinks nurse practitioners should still have a supervising physician rather than practicing independently, not looking forward to having to be there for 2+ hours likely to speak for 2 minutes!
Un SOU is a cent en francais
IRAN/q? I thought the Q might be for quarantine of Cuba
I liked all three, Owen, but #2 gets the big W
Although no w/o's it was tricky but fortunately had just enough perps(fe. LGA, PAPUA(which clinched POSEUR* and YAK)).
WC
* Another Fwanche word
FIR, but again hate the circles.
Good Morning:
Easy theme to suss but a rewarding reveal. Years ago, my friends and I went to a dude ranch called Hidden Valley in Lake Luzerne,NY but I doubt that it’s still operating. The only unknown was Uncas but I still had a few missteps: Tap/Dam, Bob Hope/Carol Burnett, and Store/Stock. Bob Hope was soon corrected but it took forever to realize Tap was incorrect, thereby prolonging filling in Vexed and Storm to complete that section. Cute duos included Bed/Deb, Sere/Here, Owe/Awe(d), Ago/Lore, and an all-male trio, He’s/Guy/Man. Nice CSOs to DO (Naval), Lucina (Adios and Dale), Picard (Troi), and HG (Deneb.)
Thanks, George, for a mid-week treat and thanks, Melissa, for the informative commentary and links, although several didn’t materialize so a return trip is needed. I enjoyed the article about the Queen’s Gambit lawsuit.
Have a great day.
Musings
-Turns out there was no DELL for my farmer but a DALE
-The recent Ukrainian crisis reminded me Cuba in 1962
-I got a BASIC device last week but the instructions were for the deluxe version
-Huey, Dewy and Louie had UNCA Donald
-I got MAN and HES right away but took a while for wonderful Carol BURNETT. Hmmm…
-Truman as VP was forced onto FDR in 1944 and Harry did not have a VP in his first term
-Our PE teacher had the kids dance the hustle. They loved it after they hated it!
-Nebraska has the AK-SAR-BEN Ball where the king is chosen from among wealthy older men and the queen (DEB) is picked from among college aged women from prominent families as shown here.
-Jinx, hundreds of thousands for those Sandhill Cranes will be in the Platte Valley of central Nebraska next month
-DENEB “rose” above the horizon just after midnight today. That time will get earlier and earlier as spring gets here
Too many proper names. My geography is sadly lacking.
HG - I would love to see that many of those beautiful fowl, although they must be deafening to be around.
D-O, I agree with B-E.
Oh goodie, circles! They misled me for a bit, as I thought I saw the same scrambled letters in the first two themers, but when I finally got them right they were helpful.
Thank you GJ for my second FIR in two days. I'm on roll!
Thanks you Melissa for a wonderful review. I ADORED your illustration of YOU ARE HERE and especially Sagan's beautiful paean to the "Pale Blue Dot". However his focus on the foibles of humanity doesn't tell its whole story. Sagan's contemporary Dr. Lewis Thomas, MD uses the same image, the tiny Earth as seen from the Moon and says that to him it most resembles a living CELL. And in his wonderful book of essays, "The Lives of a Cell", speculating on what he would include on the Voyager spacecraft, Thomas says this and other things.
A few favs:
19A TONG. A TONG exhibits what some biologists call "Irreducible Complexity" - a single TONG is useless and thus wouldn't survive to evolve into a pair of TONGS.
29A LARGO. For all you SW Cornerites, here's Ombra Mai Fù, "Ode to a Shade Tree", from Handel's Serse (lyrics/translation.
41A DALE. Speak of the Angel. A CSO to Lucina!
51A HIDDEN VALLEY. We just use vinegar and oil sprinkled with Parmesan cheese. We have a SALAD for every dinner and sometimes for lunch. I'm the salad sous chef.
64A TYNE. Newcastle on Tyne is the setting for our favorite British mystery, VERA, which has just complete Season 11. Vera is a great solver and always gets her PERP.
65D DENEB. The name Deneb is derived from the Arabic word for "tail", from the phrase ذنب الدجاجة Dhanab al-Dajājah, or "tail of the hen".
13D ERGOT. ERGOT contains alkaloids related to LSD and is thought to have been the cause of mass hallucinations sometimes reported in the Middle Ages.
28D LGA. The starting point for the 2009 flight of US Airways 1549, that was forced to ditch in in the Hudson River. The event was later made into the biopic Sully, starring Tom Hanks as "Sully" Sullenberger.
Cheers,
Bill
Word of the Day: impute
Pronunciation: im-pyut
Part of Speech: Verb
Meaning: 1. To attribute or assign blame for something to someone. 2. To ascribe to or credit with.
Notes: The action noun for this verb is imputation. It comes with two adjectives, an active one, imputative "characterized by being imputed", and a passive one, imputable "that may be imputed". The noun for only the latter is currently acceptable: imputability.
In Play: This verb is used far more often in its negative sense: Gladys Friday proved all the laziness imputed her when she began cutting work at the end of the week altogether." However, the positive sense still avails itself, especially when tinted by religious overtones: "Harvey Wallbanger continued to be imputed the righteousness of his father, the local vicar, long after his drinking did him in."
Word History: Today's Good Word was snitched from Old French emputer, slightly modified from Latin imputare "to reckon, ascribe". The Latin word contains in "in(to)" (in this case) + putare "to prune, reckon, settle an account".
See Alpha Dictionary for more info.
No actually unknown fill, but I needed a perp or two to dig them up from my memory. With VALE and DALE I was looking for another rhyme, and then I saw GLEN. So the cute reveal was no surprise.
Common saying, "It's not worth a sou." It is worthless.
The novel I am reading now mentions a bunk room for the farm hands. Not that uncommon.
I always ponder whether SYDNEY has 2 Y's. FIR
My second graders thought it was silly to name a country after a turkey. LOL
My first thought about bare bones was a skeleton, but it was too long.
The chess pieces are called chessmen, even the queen.
Thanks, George and Melissa for a pleasant morning romp.
I learned of ERGOT in reading about the Salem witch trials in non fiction, historical fiction, and in movies. In hysterical fiction ergot is rarely mentioned.
ERGOT
//www.uh.edu/engines/epi1037.htm
I may be in the minority, but I really don't mind circles. In this case, they made the theme clear from the beginning. Because of that, it was possible to solve the puzzle without too much difficulty. I would like to say that Benjamin Franklin is my favorite Founding Father. So intelligent and creative, even if he was a bit of a rascal (especially in France.) FIR,, so I'm satisfied.
Two more short things, folks. The first is that I actually solved a cryptic crossword in my puzzle book all the way though, for once. I'm very proud of myself because cryptic crosswords are a bear! The other thing I wanted to say is that my brother has informed me that my new smartphone is here! I hope it doesn't have the same problem as the old one (knock on wood!) I'm looking forward to being "connected" again.
Maybe next time the answer to 22D will be ITGAL...there's a lot of us out here...
Hola!
Wow! Ay, caramba! What a nice pair of CSOs. Thank you to those of you who noted, i.e., d-otto and Irish Miss. I must thank my late DH, though, for the name.
When I was teaching it was EARLY TO BED but now I stay up until midnight or later reading.
IF is also a poem by Kipling. I had to learn it and recite it in sixth grade.
My friend, Mark, loves HIDDEN VALLEY dressing on his salad.
Scottsdale has trolleys named Dolly, OLLIE and some others. The ride is free and most hotels are on their route for the convenience of tourists.
Sigh. Even CARAMELS are now on my forbidden list.
I sincerely hope you all enjoy a great day. ADIOS for now!
SEB @10:31 AM I'm with you on that. When I was in IT, the woman in the field always excelled. And they were much more willing to share their knowledge than many of the guys. I had several who mentored me when I was just starting out.
Musings 2
-Jinx, the early spring arrival of the Sandhill Cranes in Nebraska is a visual (awe-inspiring), auditory (deafening) and olfactory (yeah, well…) event.
-This is Dr. Jane Goodall’s take on this happening! (4:00)
-I have encountered many IT GALS and was never disappointed.
-CARAMEL – Joann loved her Valentine turtles
-The circles cause me no angst but I always wonder how hard the gimmicks would be to find without them
Fun Wednesday puzzle, many thanks, George. And always enjoy your commentary, Melissa, thanks for that too.
My first bit of good luck came with the totally incompatible crossing of ODOR and ADORE. Surely no-one adores an odor--well, unless it's perfume, I suppose.
POTATO was the last thing I expected for "sweet"--but, yes, have enjoyed a sweet potato.
Had to laugh when "uncertainties" turned out to be IFS, a pretty certain three-letter answer, as far as I was concerned.
POSEUR was an unknown for me--never heard the word before. But then I try to avoid pretentious types as much as I can.
I was a bit VEXED that "put out" was the clue for VEXED. "Annoyed" would have made more sense to me.
Anyway, lots of fun, thanks again, George.
And ADIOS, everybody.
I think my hardest perp was vexed VPs,
Due to very ambiguous clueing...
Hidden valley?
Ranch is not even close to my favorite dressing,
gimme Marie's creamy Italian garlic any day...
Inanehiker?
You are going to travel two hours to speak two minutes?
(Hmm, you have an apt moniker.)
Well, give em two minutes of hell!
(& go blue, I would love to see your avatar!)
Ergot?
Can't seem to find anywhere if the spores are dangerous...
(It's the stuff I can't see that scares me the most.)
And what hidden valley would be complete without
this little ditty.
(And yes, it is a real place.)
(And it lies between two hills, ergo (no T) some kind of little valley...)
P.S.
If you have never seen Finians Rainbow,
you are missing a fun romp in rainbow valley
and Petula Clark singing Glocca Morra.
I might be one of few, but I love circles. I didn't think much of TONG though.
Almost gave up a few times. Struggled with too many DNKs: UNCAS, POSEUR (with a “u”), SOU, TYNE, DENEB, BRIDALEXPO. Also struggled with east-central. CHEAT for HUSTLE did not come to mind, and VEXED for PUT OUT escaped me for a long time. PAPUA filled right in, as did VPS, which eventually gave me the south-central, but took far too long. Eventually managed to FIR but took 30 minutes, undoubtedly once again winning the booby prize for longest time-to-solve. Oh well. Overall a nice CW, thanx, GJ. Very nice write-up, too, Melissa, thanx. I watched the skateboard video as long as it took me to figure out what an “Ollie” is.
Puzzling thoughts:
FIR; my W/O today was (oddly) EAR/BUG
I was confused at NORM for 32-down; I was pretty sure that 41-Across was BRIDAL something, but I was scratching my head trying to figure out the clue for 32-down to result in a word that began NOR. And SLUMS didn’t exactly leap out at me for 43-Across
The “Outer Banks” slowed me down as the crazy combos of VEXED, PAPUA, and POSEUR were a bit much. I did like the 35-down clue, though
Speaking of clues, as a new xword constructor I’m finding the most difficult task is finding fresh clues! And also, finding clues appropriate for a certain day-of-the-week puzzle. I’m working on a Friday right now, and have included lots of clues that can have more than one answer, using the same number of letters. Today’s puzzle had a few of those; 21-down —> could’ve been EAR, BUD, BUG, or even TAP
@CED - no, I only have to travel about 5 minutes to get to the capitol as I live in the capital city - but they don't give you a time slot at these committee hearings - so you have to be there at 8 am and then there may be 3 bills on the docket for people to talk about whether they are for the bill or in opposition to the bill. You don't know which order they are going to talk about the bills. So you go there and I'm usually sitting there for 2 hours before I give my opinion which is a max of 5 minutes - not as a random citizen, which anyone can do - but speaking for the Missouri Academy of Family Physicans.
The top half went quickly, the bottom half was much more challenging, maybe because I was hungry.
Note: Contrary to sci-fi lore, Denebian swamp lizards make good pets. They're docile, affectionate and only eat algae. Like angelfish, how big they get depends on the size of the tank. And how much you feed them.
We use "put out" to mean vexed. I was put out by his always showing up late.
Of course, in high school girls who put out left the guys far from being vexed.
Fine PZL from Mr. Jasper, follow-up by MelissaB.
Lotsa clever cluing today. Hard to pick a fave.
Major write-over at 41D. Shoulda thought of BURNETT first, but I started with COLBERT.
Could not think of VPS, and that made the mid-east sector the last to fall.
~ OMK
___________
DR: Four diagonals. One on the near end, and a three-way opposite.
The center far diagonal offers an anagram (11 of 15 letters) that applies to clinically depressive types.
These are the folk who are sadly afflicted with...
"HARDWIRE WOE"!
I enjoyed solving this puzzle, which I worked by alternating acrosses and downs. TONG went in, came out for no better reason than that I didn't like it, and went back in. I like the clues for POTATO and CLOSETED. I don't know why but I can't get it out of my head that Austin is NNE of Houston. I knew Newcastle's river TYNE from watching British detective shows.
Stay well, all.
My new schedule leaves me arriving here late, but I am happy to see that no one has commented on UNCAS who was much more than a character in Cooper's books. His descendants were among the last pure Indigineous and they roamed from the south part of Connecticut where UNCASVILLE and the Casino is located, to the north east part of the state where I grew up. My Uncle had a few indigneous as patients and I would go with him on some house calls as far away from Putnam as Norwich. Since my Uncle came to the area in the early 1930s when there were not many doctors so his patient list spread far and wide. Nice memories.
SEB, ITGAL has such interesting connotations.
Could you say George's puzzle can be exjasperating?
Thank you GJ and MB
FIR but forgot to look for the HIDDEN VALLEYs 😫
inkovers: store/STOCK, bar/BAN,
Tom, Dick, and Harry, an ankle tendon mnemonc 🦶
OLLIE is pure CW memory. Yesterday the SALAD BAR, today the "dressing"
St. Anthony's Fire (SAF) is an illness brought on by the ingestion of fungus-contaminated rye grain causing ERGOT poisoning (ergotism)....
"Hustle" took a while, think of it as "hurrying" ...UNCAS Rd. is near our Adirondack place, now I know why, and luckily not named after his Dad. WAGGED ARON & TYNE. "East of Eden", a flick on my bucket list. TROI, is it Fr. Trwah or
Inanehiker, Totally agree. Good luck
Clever clue for SHOE
Even's partner....AWED
Like Rip Torn, Gale ____ .....STORM
Used to eat an ice cream cone...TONG
Another hectic day. No time for lunch 🍝
or Troy
FIR and even got the theme. I have been pretty busy with some business-related stuff and preparing for a trip so I have not had much time to post. Thanks, Melissa for the great recap. The lawsuit link is interesting. I, or one, never think that the entertainment media is presenting "truth". I learned a long time ago not to get my history lessons from Oliver Stone, Mel Gibson and others of that ilk. YMMV.
Just some afterthoughts...
Waseely said:
19A TONG. A TONG exhibits what some biologists call "Irreducible Complexity" - a single TONG is useless and thus wouldn't survive to evolve into a pair of TONGS.
Very interesting...
While I find the above fascinating, and do not want to belabour the point,
it seems to me the the clue "one of a patio pair" needs work.
Merriam Webster states The meaning of TONG is a secret society or fraternal organization especially of Chinese in the U.S. formerly notorious for gang warfare. A possible alternate clue?
And is a single tong really useless?
(Would it not be a spear?)
As opposed to a "tine," which is designed to go in the mouth
where a tong might be too large?
Did chopsticks start with just one stick?
All these thoughts only made me think (I know...)
That the spear, evolved to contain multiple prongs, (or. Tongs?)
Which begs the question:
Why do tongs contain only two prongs?
Why not three of four?
Behold! log Tongs!
Jayce,Speaking of Oliver Stone, I stumbled on a Mark Hall lecture in which he connects the JFK assassination to Dorothy Kilgallen and her interview with, among others Melvin Belli. Apparently, Mark Hall got to know Oliver Stone. All nonsense. It was Arisrotle Onassis and Winston Churchill who concocted the assassination plot on the former's yacht.
WC
Hi everybody
I may have been one of the first to complain about circles years back. That was because the interface I was using to access the puzzle didn't show the circles which made me feel left out. More recently I use the Washington Post webpage and everything is OK now. No worries...
Jordan asked me to help him with his Algebra II homework. The material was arcane and the solutions were difficult and tedious. For the first time, I found I wasn't as helpful to him as I needed to be. Very frustrating...
~ Mind how you go...
Bill G
Amen! This sexist answer made me really angry. Please, can we stop using this term and substitute IT ACE (per Jinx) or IT PRO?
Hi All!
Nutty day - the house was filled with noise and dust and my job was resetting the circuit breaker every 20 minutes or so. No real work got done.
//You know it's bad when all you can taste is your tongue and that tastes like concrete.
They'll be done Friday(?, fingers crossed)
I just found my 3/4 finished grid; the East Coast still is still snowy but I already read mb's fantastic expo so, no point now.
{A, B+, B+}
Why I pop'd in anyway: SEB - Women in IT? Women were IT until MEN saw $$ there. Remember Grace Hopper? She could find a BUG ;-)
//we just hired two female Jr. CyberSec analysts. They pickup fast and (what Waseeley said) are not afraid to say they don't know something or share something they know.
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CED - LOL one chopstick. I guess just poke at your rice ;-)
Want a quick "things that make you go ???"
We live in a very diverse area. Name your fav fare and there's at least two restaurants serving it. We went for Vietnamese tonight (best peanut sauce, like, ever! and fresh Thai mint to go in your Pho).
I got the rice vermicelli w/ pork.
You know you're an old white guy when they bring you a fork.
For the record, I can work chopsticks just fine, thank you.
Cheers, -T
Didn't refresh b/f posting say.
@10:43 - we also need to take race out of IT. Master & Slave drives have gone the way of the Dodo but we still have White(Allow)lists& Black(Deny)lists on the firewalls IDS/IPS. A long row to hoe, but we're doing it.
BillG - No way you were having issues w/ AlgII unless they introduced new processes / maths. I recall helping Eldest a few years back and "No dad, that's not how we have to do it!"
"But here's the fastest way to the solution... *sigh*"
Good to hear you & Jordan are still having quality time. Mind how we go.
Cheers, -T
Anon -T @11:58 --
Another parallel to your 'blacklist', is 'blackmail' (for which there is no 'whitemail', is there). Pretty deeply ensconced.
The encouraging thing is that my kids don't seem to be as infected as I am.
And I'll drink a cheer right back to you!
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