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Jul 3, 2025

Thursday, July 3, 2025, Jake Halperin

 Theme:  Domain of science

Experienced constructor Jake Halperin defines three scientific domains in grid-spanning theme answers, each of which uses a different word for "domain" taken from an example of the science.  The theme clues and answers are:

19. Forensics?: CRIME SCENE SCENE.  Forensics is the application of scientific techniques to matters of law, especially the investigation of crimes.  A forensic scientist often finds himself at a crime scene.  That's his "scene," or domain of expertise.

36. Geometry?: SURFACE AREA AREA.  Geometry is a branch of mathematics concerned with shapes and dimensions of objects.  A geometrician may be asked to determine the surface area of an object.  That's his "area," or domain of expertise.

49. Physics?: FORCE FIELD FIELD.  Physics is the study of matter, energy and force.  If you're dealing with a force field, you'll want a physicist.  That's his "field," or domain of expertise.

Hopefully these domains were in your wheelhouse!  Let's investigate the rest of the clues and answers.

Across:

1. Petty quarrel: SPAT.

5. Chesapeake and Delaware: BAYS.  The Chesapeake and Delaware Bays are two distinct bodies of water on the east coast, connected by the 12-mile Chesapeake and Delaware Canal.



9. Outstanding papers?: IOUs.  Unpaid debts.

13. "That's a nauseating thought!": YECH.  A little less popular than "yuck"?

14. "We can ride together!": HOP ON.  I tried HOP iN first.

15. In-between dress length: MIDI.  Mini, midi, maxi.  When I was in elementary school, all skirts fell just below the knee.  In middle school, the hemlines climbed as high as possible without revealing all.  Then suddenly, ankle length "granny gowns" were a thing ... and the whole idea of gradually changing styles went out the window.  You can wear whatever you want.

16. Nick Mohammed's "Ted Lasso" role: NATE.

Nick Mohammed as Nathan "Nate" Shelley on "Ted Lasso"

17. Comic installment: ISSUE.  Comic books come out in issues.

18. Piles (of): A LOT.  Bunches and bunches.

19. [Theme clue]

22. "I need help!": SOS.  SOS originated as a Morse code sequence (...---...) specifically chosen for its simplicity and ease of recognition as a universal distress signal.  Backronyms like "Save Our Souls" and "Save Our Ship" were later invented as mnemonic phrases for the signal.

23. Maintain a lab coat?: GROOM.  Maintain a *labrador retriever's* coat!

Bathe and brush your dog!

24. Ghostly pale: ASHEN.

27. Grade below 70%: DEE.


29. Tip-to-frog violin motion: UPBOW.  In violin playing, an upbow is moving the bow across the strings from the tip of the bow towards the frog (the end held by the player).  This contrasts with a downbow, where the bow moves from frog to tip.  An upbow makes a lighter sound than a downbow.



32. Novelist Bellow: SAUL.

33. Orderly groupings in computer science: ARRAYS.  Wikipedia says:  "In computer science, an array is a data structure consisting of a collection of elements (values or variables), of same memory size, each identified by at least one array index or key, a collection of which may be a tuple, known as an index tuple. An array is stored such that the position (memory address) of each element can be computed from its index tuple by a mathematical formula."  What say our computer scientists?  Whose bailiwick is this?

35. "What __ the odds?": ARE.

36. [Theme clue]

39. Postscript's place: END.

40. Fierce fauna: BEASTS.

41. Frankenstein's helper: IGOR.

42. Nachos topping: SALSA.

44. "I'd call it average": MEH.



45. Not very poetic: PROSY.  Prosy means dull or unimaginative, very much like the word "prosaic," but can also mean resembling prose. 

46. Made less severe: EASED.

48. Co. with a SoSecure mobile safety app: ADT.  ADT's alarm services date back to the 1870's, when telegraph technology was used to alert homeowners to burglaries.  Hence, American District Telegraph.



49. [Theme clue]

56. "Funny Girl" co-star Sharif: OMAR.

Barbra Streisand won the Oscar for Best Actress in her film debut, 1968.

57. Elbow-to-wrist bones: RADII.  Plural for radius.  One in each arm.

I know you find this humerus.


58. __ of honor: MAID.

59. Formerly: ONCE.

60. Instrument for many Bach compositions: ORGAN.

61. Writer Bombeck: ERMA.  Erma Bombeck achieved great popularity for her newspaper humor column describing suburban life, syndicated from 1965 to 1996.

62. Knotted up: TIED.

63. Empire State resident, for short: NYer.  New Yorker.

64. "Work it!": SLAY.

Be excellent in a particular scene, area, field, domain, wheelhouse, bailiwick ...

Down:

1. Lip-__: SYNC.

2. Crumble fruit: PEAR.  I've had berry crumbles and peach crumbles, but the concept of pear crumble is new to me.  I am not opposed!



3. Ballet opener: ACT I.

4. Gender-neutral pronoun: THEMSELF.

5. Type of 2-Down: BOSC.  A type of pear.


6. Architectural recess: APSE.  A projecting part of a building (such as a church) that is usually semicircular in plan and vaulted.



7. Branch of creationism: YOUNG EARTH.  Young Earth creationism is a belief that Earth was created by God within a short period of time, perhaps 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. This anti-scientific view is based on a literal reading of the Book of Genesis.  By contrast, Old Earth creationism accepts most modern science regarding the history of the earth, but rejects the theory of evolution.  A third option for adherents to the biblical tradition is theistic evolution, which suggests that God created the world through the laws of nature, which are discoverable through science.  Evolution is real, and was set in motion by God.



8. Snide smile: SNEER.

9. Sgt. Friday's declaration on "Dragnet": I'M A COP.  Joe Friday was a character created and portrayed by Jack Webb for his series Dragnet (on radio 1949-1957, and on TV 1951-1959, 1967-1970).

Jack Webb as Joe Friday in "Dragnet"


10. Petroleum trade ban: OIL EMBARGO.

11. Japanese food staple: UDON.  Thick noodles made from wheat flour, served in hot broth or stir-fried.

12. Wikipedia, e.g.: SITE.  A web site.

14. Ostrich warning sound: HISS.  I have not experienced this defensive behavior, but I did see this ostrich lift its skirt!

Out of all the possible ostrich illustrations,
I chose this one from my files for Splynter.


20. The Proterozoic, e.g.: EON.  The Proterozoic Eon, from 2.5 billion to 541 million years ago, was the third of Earth's four eons. It was marked by the formation of stable continents, the rise of oxygen in the atmosphere, and the evolution of early life forms.  Even though we're only in the fourth eon now, the Proterozoic feels like eons ago.

21. Composer born in Washington, D.C.: SOUSA.  John Philip Sousa (1854-1932) was an American composer and conductor known primarily for marches.

John Philip Sousa


24. Burros: ASSES.

25. Cold plunge partner: SAUNA.  Finland is home to the tradition of a hot sauna followed by a cold plunge into icy water.  The sauna has documented health benefits.  The cold plunge may be all right if it doesn't kill you.

sauna and cold plunge


26. Where athletes kick up their heels?: HURDLE RACE.

27. Record best updated first thing in the morning: DREAM DIARY.  I had a psychology class in college where we were encouraged to write down everything we could remember about our dreams before getting out of bed in the morning.  It was interesting to review the diary after a few weeks and to discover recurring themes.  

28. Draw a blank on?: ERASE.

30. Twistable treats: OREOS.  Crossword's favorite cookie.

31. Dog-tired: WEARY.

33. Opening day pitcher, typically: ACE.

34. "Mm-hmm": YES.

37. Denigrate: ABASE.



38. Opportunities for watch parties: AIR TIMES.

43. Holy: SACRED.

45. "Save as" option: PDF.  PDF, which stands for Portable Document Format, is a file format developed by Adobe to present documents in a manner independent of application software, hardware, and operating systems.  It preserves the original formatting and images across various devices.

47. Zac of "The Greatest Showman": EFRON.  Zachary Efron rose to prominence for his leading role in the High School Musical film series (2006–2008). During this time, he also starred in the musical film Hairspray (2007) and the comedy film 17 Again (2009).  He continues to appear in films and on TV.

Zac Efron


48. Tennis score after deuce: AD IN.  In tennis, "ad" is short for advantage. It refers to the score after deuce (40-40). If the server wins the point after deuce, it's called "ad-in." If the receiver wins the point after deuce, it's called "ad-out". If the player with the advantage wins the next point, they win the game. If the player without the advantage wins the next point, the score goes back to deuce. 

49. Height unit: FOOT.

50. Ritz-Carlton alternative: OMNI.

51. Microsoft browser: EDGE.

52. Untrustworthy sort: LIAR.

53. Noble rank below marquess: EARL.

54. Peruvian city with a San Isidro district: LIMA.

55. WWII turning point: D-DAY.  D-Day, June 6, 1944, was the day the Allied forces launched a massive invasion of Normandy, France, leading to the liberation of Western Europe from Nazi control.

I took this photo of DH in front of a German bunker on the beach in Normandy.



Here's the grid:



It took me a while to get a toehold on Jake's puzzle, but then everything fell into place.
What about you?  Was this your SCENE?  Were you in SYNC with Jake?  Did you ACE it?
Or did you ERASE a lot of entries and finally say YECH?

-- NaomiZ

30 comments:

Subgenius said...

Puzzles which are
repetitive usually don’t end up being that difficult, and this puzzle was no exception to that rule. FIR, so I’m happy.

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Noticed the repeated words in the themers, but not that they were related. Hey, I'm still calling it a win. HURDLE RACE may be a thing, but it seems awkward. D-o enjoyed the exercise; no trip to the ABASEment involved. Thanx, Jake and NaomiZ. (I sure hope Splynter drops in to enjoy his leg photo. Best illustration: Mediocrates.)

Yesterday a doe brought two fawns into our back yard for some fun and frolic. A rabbit came out of the woods to join the fun, sometimes chasing a fawn, sometimes being chased. It was a real Bambi/Thumper moment.

YooperPhil said...

After filling the top themer I figured correctly that the second word would repeat, which helped perp the verticals, but the fact that they were all “domains” I failed to see. The only name I didn’t know was NATE, and hadn’t heard the term YOUNG EARTH. Had to change yuck to YECH, and hop in to HOP ON, (maybe if riding a horse or motorcycle, not a vehicle). FIR in 11:32, better than most Thursday’s. Thanks to the graphic, I now know the geography of the BAYS. I live in an area where there’s a lot of people of Finnish descent, thus SAUNAs are very popular, the cold plunge is usually into a lake, Superior always being the coldest. Thank you Jake H for your construction, and to NaomiZ for another delightful review. Your explanation of hemline evolution was spot on, exactly as I remember from my school days. I smiled at Mediocrates. FLN ~ yes I did think of you when I read about mezuzahs, and I figured right that you would be a traditionalist in that respect 😊.

Anonymous said...

Took 10:42 for me to study these studies.

I didn't know today's writer (Saul), Young Earth, and struggled with "air times" (wanting Big Games instead).

NaomiZ +1 for your ostrich caption. Brava!

KS said...

FIR. I had very little trouble with this Thursday presentation. My only misstep was to throw down sleep diary before dream diary. That made the center of this puzzle more difficult than it had to be.
That aside, I got the theme half way through and that helped a lot with the solve.
Overall an enjoyable puzzle.

CanadianEh! said...

Those fawns were not “fierce fauna” LOL! Cute.

CanadianEh! said...

Terrific Thursday. Thanks for the fun, Jake and NaomiZ.
I FIRed in good time and saw the repeating words, but like YP, I failed to see the domains. So my initial MEH is slightly upgraded.

Hand up for HOP in before ON.
I had era before EON.
“Formerly” was ONCE not Nee.

I had AIR and thought we were watching an AIR show with our Royal Canadian Air Force's Snowbirds. AIR TIMES perped.

Canadian grading is different (see below *) and I entered cEE. I was scratching my head about recording a cREAM DIARY with my morning coffee. DREAM made better sense.

Wishing you all a great day.

* “ In Canadian schools, the grading system for the Centre for Excellence in Education (CEE) generally uses a letter grade system, with a corresponding percentage range. The most common scale includes A (80-100%), B (70-79%), C (60-69%), D (50-59%), and F (below 50%)”

CanadianEh! said...

YP- There are A LOT of people of Finnish descent in the Thunder Bay area just north of you. I have had the experience of a SAUNA* followed by a dip in the cold waters of Lake Superior. Exhilarating to say the least!

*” In Finnish, "sauna" is pronounced [ˈsɑu̯nɑ] (IPA). The first syllable "sau" is pronounced like the English word "sow" (as in a female pig) and the second syllable "na" is like "nah.”

YooperPhil said...

CEh! 🇨🇦 ~ yes, that is the correct pronunciation, sow as in female pig, not “sawna”, which is the way the uninformed say it 😂

Jinx in Norfolk said...

FIR, but hand up for hop in->HOP ON, also prose->PROSY, and cee->DEE.

If I live to be 100, I'll never respect THEMSELF as a pronoun. Nor THEM as a singular pronoun. My guess is that our times will be laughed at in the future, as we laugh at the '60s crowd stuffing phone booths with as many bodies that would fit.

"Blah, blah, blah Sharif" will always be OMAR.

Before I started on today's puzzle I went to the local Food Lion. Prominently displayed near the front door was a display for Selena Gomez OREO cookies. I took note, knowing that OREO was likely to be fill today, as it often is in days that end in "y."

Nearby Chesapeake (the city, not the bay) is the home town of Grant Holloway, the best 110-meter HURDLER ACE (see what I did there?) in the world.

Thanks to Jake for the fun challenge. Favorite was "maintain a lab coat" for GROOM. Least favorite was mm-hmm for YES. I despise those types of clues. And thanks to NaomiZ for another fun and funny tour.

Monkey said...

To answer NaomiZ’s questions, I was not really in SYNC with this puzzle, I did ACE it, but ERASED quite á few letters. I too had HOP oN, YECH didn’t come easily, age had to morph into EON, and ABASh had to become ABASE.

My unEASE with this puzzle comes from my having to WAG á lot of answers, like UPBOW, YES, and HURDLER ACE which I read as HURDLE RACE.

I really liked the theme and answers like DREAM DIARY and GROOM.

I’M Á COP is not what first comes to mind as á quote from Dragnet.

Thank you NomiZ for á fine Recap.

desper-otto said...

"The names have been changed to protect the innocent."

desper-otto said...

I tried ERST before ONCE barged in.

TehachapiKen said...

FLN--GoBlue@7:45PM--

I've never heard of GoBlue. If it's a way for folks to contact me easier, sure, sign me up.

TehachapiKen said...

FLN--Jayce@2:25PM

Glad you enjoyed visiting our area here. Let me know when you're coming again!

Copy Editor said...

I liked NaomiZ’s explanation of creationism and the appearance of Mediocrates more than anything about the puzzle.

I thought the puzzle theme was meh, and I DID get the domain part.

Of the components I didn’t like, NYer topped the list. Do New Yorkers actually say or use that? Worse even than Rich Norris’ acceptance of MLBers and NHLers, terms no one in sports says. Second worst was “I’m a cop.” For the version of Dragnet most of us saw, Joe Friday said, “I carry a badge.” I think it was changed because “cop” is a word police dislike. The SLAY answer for “work it” was unfamiliar. And I agree that “HURDLE RACE” is a construction not heard in track and field circles.

Charlie Echo said...

Not bad. Got the FIR, and enjoyed this one with the exception of those ever-annoying "paraphrase" non-clues. Also enjoyed the NaomiZ recap. Hope everyone has a safe and happy Independence Day!

Husker Gary said...

Musings
-My old science LAB doesn’t even occur to me anymore here and now frog has a different meaning
-I had to reread a newspaper story where a man committed a crime and later in the story it said, “they are still at large”.
-In every school where I taught, below 70% was an EFF which is equally arbitrary
-IGOR! Lab assistant, you’re in, composer and helicopter inventor you’re not.
-My first “I’d call it average” was CEE but that is not the case in classrooms any more with grade inflation
-Some people use fake ADT signs to try to deter theft
-Lip Synch: Many performers have done this at Super Bowl halftime shows
-Joe Friday’s “I’M A COP” was used in the early episodes. Later it became, “I carry a badge”
-HURDLERS must have no fear
-The closest we ever came to a watch party was for Downton Abbey
-The world high jump record is 2.45 meters or 8 FEET ¼”. Which sounds more impressive?

TehachapiKen said...

FLN--ChairmanMoe@4:25PM

Chris--Thanks for your note. I think I recall your mentioning that you had lived in the Quaker State near the Susquehanna. Most of my Buxton relatives lived further up the Susquehanna near Harrisburg. I grew up outside Philly, in Delaware County.

Do I remember Point Lookout? Are you kidding me? Even though our summer home and Chris Craft boat, the "Jean," were up in Ocean City NJ, we'd get around a lot: come up Delaware Bay, take the canal that connects Delaware Bay with Chesapeake Bay (I think it's called the Chesapeake & Delaware Canal, of all things) et voila, we're in the Chesapeake. Right where the Susquehanna is emptying into the bay. Four states--NJ, PA, DE, and MD--in just a couple hours.

Oh, back to Point Lookout. Yes, we'd get the Jean boat down that far. To me, the Chesapeake Bay is compelling for two reasons: 1)American history; and 2) crabs. Well, OK, a third: I was born in Baltimore. So if it had occurred to me at the time, the first thing I ever saw would have been Fort McHenry, and the Patapsco widening into the Chesapeake.

Point Lookout is a strategically important location, right at the mouth of the Potomac. Is the lighthouse still there? I remember it as a large squat building, sort of Federal Style/James Monroe era. I mean, OLD. It's probably been deactivated.

Misty said...

Fun Thursday puzzle, many thanks, Jake. And your helpful commentary and pictures were a pleasure, thanks for those too, NaomiZ.

Well, there were A LOT of repetitions in this puzzle, but they still gave us some interesting ARRAYS of words. So there's absolutely no reason to HISS or SNEER at anything, especially since we were offered some nachos with SALSA and some OREOS for dessert. And we were even given a chance to relax in the SAUNA when we were done. Makes for a pretty pleasant day, I'd say.

Have a delightful one, everybody.

desper-otto said...

As of '08 the lighthouse was still there -- that's the last time Google visited that location.

AnonymousPVX said...

I sure would like it if the puzzle solution was at the top of the exposition.

unclefred said...

Happy July the threeth to one and all. All smiles to FIR in 11 on a Thursday. Helpful that of the 11 names only 2 DNKs. Also, sussed the theme with the first theme answer, which led to an easy fill for the ends of the other theme entries. A nice CSO to Splynter at 60A. Include me in the HOPIN/HOPON crowd. Ages ago I taught HS Chemistry. My grading system: A = 93-100, B = 86-92, C = 76-85, D = 70-75, F = <70. Was I too strict? I taught in Brevard County FL, and many of my students were the sons and daughters of the rocket scientists at Cape Kennedy, so very smart kids. Anyway, my first entry at 27A was EFF. Bzzzt! I did not know about the branches of creationism, thanx for the education NaomiZ. I, too, loved the MEDIOCRATES cartoon. I didn't know what was meant by "crumble fruit", so PEAR eluded me until perps gave me the "P" and "A". Not much else to say, thanx JH for this fun Monday-on-a-Thursday CW. And thanx too to NaomiZ for the time and effort put into this write-up. Today was easy enough that I kinda fear what tomorrow will look like, to "get even".

Acesaroundagain said...

This one was fun. Once a saw the repeat it got easier. I too hopped in before I hopped on. I remember Joe saying, "Just the facts maam, just the facts. I've used yuck but never yech. All the events in track are races but you don't use it after the event. You say, "I run the hurdles, sprints, mile, etc. Not "I run the hurdle race, sprint race, mile race, etc. Hey it made the puzzle work, what the heck. Thanks for the nice recap Naomi, especially on creationism. Very thoughtful.

TehachapiKen said...

FLN--Jinx in Norfolk@2:39PM

Jinx, Hey, if you're ever out this way again, let me know. And bring Zoe. I have a soft spot for anyone of the canine persuasion, and have been known to "accidentally" spill or drop food. But don't tell Zoe. If she starts thinking about all those food morsels, she's likely to drool all over your place.

How is life on the Piankatank? We used to bring our cabin cruiser, the "Jean," down to the Chesapeake and explore all those inlets and "fjords," including one on the Eastern Shore, the Choptank. My father loved that word; he would even use it as an expletive. When we felt like swimming, we'd either beach the Jean boat, or drop anchor. Believe it or not, I still have all the Coast and Geodetic Survey charts for the Chesapeake. They were indispensable for our voyages on the Jean boat in and around the Intracoastal Waterway.

Some family history. Upriver from Norfolk lies the city of Richmond. During the Civil War, the infamous Libby Prison there housed many Union prisoners, including my great grandad. His unit had been captured by the Rebs NNW of Richmond, and force-marched to Libby. This is in June 1863. His unit had been headed north to face Robert E. Lee in the Big Pivotal Battle--which turned out to be at Gettysburg. So because Great Grandad was captured by the Confederates and imprisoned, he missed the Battle of Gettysburg. As a lowly corporal, he doubtless would not have survived Gettysburg. And I would not exist.

On that happy note, over and out, and Happy Fourth!

Chairman Moe said...

Ken, my last visit to Point Lookout might've been close to 40 years ago, so totally unsure whether the lighthouse still exists. The story I shared about the fishing trip was with my dad, best friend, and father-in-law. We had a brief window of time to fish (very rainy weekend) but did well as the 4 of us caught 30 blues

My ex-wife's uncle had his boat docked near Deltaville, VA and that was the spot where I first fished in the Chesapeake. Speaking of "spot" I recall using many of them (the ones we caught and then used as live bait) to land a decent sized rockfish or blue or occasional sand shark. I was by no means a good or experienced fisherman but as one who only began as a young adult I found it a great way to spend hours drinking beer 😂😂

Jinx in Norfolk said...

Those alarm system signs don't scare off bad guys, they just let them know what they are up against. Better to let the alarm company pay for their own advertisements.

I helped put down cushions in the Rose Bowl the Friday before Super Bowl XXI. In the hours we were there, Neil Diamond sang the National Anthem over and over. At first, we thought he was rehearsing but came to the conclusion that he was trying to get a perfect recording to lip sync to on game day.

Lucina said...

Hola! When I first went to post my response, the screen suddenly changed to an automatic up-date mode. This has been happening too often! Anyway, I finished the puzzle a long while ago and liked the repetitions although it's not my favorite style of puzzle. I prefer more of a challenge. Maybe that will happen tomorrow since it will be Friday.
When I got to EFRON I was stymied because ULNAS was in place for elbow-to-wrist bones. But then RADII emerged and all was finished.
Thank you, Jake Halperin, for today's exercise. And speaking of exercise, when I used to go to the gym near me, I practiced the SAUNA to COLD PLUNGE. The sauna and cold plunge pool were located next to each other, so it was an easy way to step into it. Those were the days! I was young, thin and energetic!
I hope your plans for a wonderful celebration tomorrow are well underway. Have a lovely day, everyone!

Jinx in Norfolk said...

Zoё and I are both getting a little long in the tooth for traveling out west, but I can relish my memories.

There are lots of great stories about this area, and some of them are even true! Another true one is that a house built in Urbanna, VA was transported to the outskirts of Frederick, MD. A settlement grew around the house, and they named the area "Urbanna" as well. My niece got married in that house, which was used as a field hospital for both sides (depending on which controlled the area) during the Civil War. The current owners were preparing to renovate the house, and just before they started painting, they took a closer look at what they thought was kid's scribbling. It turned out to be insulting writing and crude cartoons put on the wall by the recovering soldiers on both sides.

Life on the Piankatank is slow. It's mostly agricultural, with some seafood business. Deltaville is the big city. Its 1,000 population dwarfs Urbanna's 500. Both swell from tourists (like me) in the summer. There is a nice golf course only a couple of miles from me as the crow flies, but it takes me a half hour and 20-some odd miles of driving to get there from the campground.

Anonymous said...

(late solve on Fri. morning…but wanted to say I had fun playing Mssr Halperin’s word games in this one. Fun stuff also in NaomiZ’s coverage — thanks!)

“I’m a cop. This is The City.” Man was that a blast from the past! Knowing that line, I now realize that I’m really old… 😎 And I’d never heard that J.P. Souza was born in DC — cool trivia.

I suppose that we should be thankful that the clue for 24D wasn’t “derrières”… 🤣

====> Darren / L.A.