Aug 31, 2008

Sunday August 31, 2008 Willy A. Wiseman

Theme: FAMILY NAME: WILLIAMS (87D: Another last name for 23A, 39A, 56A, 77A, 94A, 111A, 8D and 69D)

23A: Cartoon character, not the playwright: TENNESSEE TUXEDO

39A: Former Brewers shortstop, not the comic: ROBIN YOUNT

56A: Media tycoon, not the Splendid Splinter: TED TURNER

77A: Legendary Brave, not the C & W singer: HANK AARON

94A: Pop artist, not the singer: ANDY WARHOL

111A: March composer, not the conductor: JOHN PHILIPS SOUSA

8D: Comic/writer, not Tiger's caddy: STEVE MARTIN

69D: Sculpture, not the tennis player: VENUS DE MILO

And don't forget Wayne R. WILLIAMS, our editor and the real author of this puzzle. In case you have not heard of it, today's constructor, Willy A. Wiseman is our editor's alias name. Willy A. Wiseman is an anagram of "i.e. Wayne Williams". I suspect that he created this puzzle to celebrate a family reunion.

Anyway, out of the above 8 theme answers, 23A was the only one I had never heard before. And I enjoyed this puzzle tremendously. The theme was right in my wheelhouse. I really liked the sports references (esp baseball). Antonio Banderas is hot to Clear Ayes & Lois, but STEVE WILLIAMS is a real HUNK (67D: Beefcake poser) to me, so it pleased me to see his name as an theme entry.

Several lively fills. And of course, there were a few very obscure words as well. But Google extended a helping hand immediately and I was able to finish the puzzle with a happy face. It's such a comforting feeling that he is there whenever I need him. Sometimes I can be very needy & clingy.

Oh, before I forgot, Barry Silk told me that in his original submission, he clued MIZE (58A) as "Slugger known as the Big Cat", PUZO (63A) as "Corleone's creator", and INTERMEZZO (29D) as "Between acts musical fare". Too bad our editor changed so much of his original lower left corner. I really would have liked those Z's. Johnny MIZE might be a bit obscure though, his nickname reminded me of the "Catfish" Jim Hunter.

I was not fond of seeing both WATERY (95D: Too diluted) and WATER-SKI (1D: Surfboard's little brother) in one puzzle. I was, however, very happy to see ACTA (47A: "__ Sanctorum"), STES (122A: Fr. holy women), and THERESE (43D: Saint __ of Lisieux) in one grid.


14A: Ski-slope rides: T- BARS. I don't think I've seen X-Files being clued in TMS puzzle. D-Day, X-Rays, T-Shirt, T-Men, T-Bone, yes. What other similar words can you think of?

20A: Artist Mondrian: PIET. Gimme for Gordon Brown I am sure. This is beautiful pair of Nike shoes inspired by Mondrian's 1921 masterpiece “Composition with Red, Yellow and Blue".

22A: God of the east wind: EURUS. God of west wind in Greek mythology is ZEPHYRUS.

26A: City on the Adige: TRENT. Unknown to me. Here is the map. See the green arrow?

28A: Loser to DDE: AES. It's just so unfair to see AES repeatedly being clued as DDE loser. He had a highly admirable political career. How about DDE opponent/challenger?

33D: End of a threat: OR ELSE. Groan Argyle?

44A: Welles character: KANE. "Citizen KANE".

45A: "A Lesson from Aloes" playwright: FUGARD (Athol). Wow, our editor sure loves this guy.

50A: Cubic decimeter: LITER. So abstract a clue. Why not simply "Soda bottle unit"?

53A: Paint solvent: ACETONE. It's the ingredient in nail polish remover.

63A: Grant's first name: HIRAM. I wonder why he disliked this name, esp since HIRAM means "noble" in Hebrew.

64A: Park in California: YOSEMITE. I'd love to be there.

66A: Pico de ___ (Pyrenees peak): ANETO. I simply forgot again. It's in northeast Spain near the French border. Ha, I remember these guys.

67A: Pueblo people: ZUNI. I want this pair of ZUNI earrings. I love the turquoise moon or star. Very pretty.

80A: Immemorial: AGELONG. I've never used AGELONG in writing.

88A: ___ cava: VENA. No idea. I obtained it from the down clues.

91A: Hebrew mystic: ESSENE. I can never remember this word. It refers to the ancient Jewish ascetic sect member during the time of Christ. They were "remarkable for their strictness and abstinence."

93A: "Lift Every Voice" author Guinier: LANI. Unknown to me. WP says she is "the first black woman tenured professor at Harvard Law School". This is the book cover.

120A: Chicago pros: BEARS. Have BEARS ever won a Super Bowl? The answer is NO for our Vikings.

121A: Seine tributary: OISE. And another French river ORNE (74D: Caen's river).


2D: Formal topper: OPERA HAT. New name to me. Nothing unusual about this silk hat. I wonder why it's called OPERA HAT.

6D: Morally corrupt: DISSOLUTE. Gimme. I am a morel moral expert.

9D: Structural support: TRUSS. Look at this TRUSS bridge in Denmark.

12D: EL __ Campeador: CID. Learned from doing Xword. What a great statue. His eyes are so deep and penetrating.

14D: Parathyroid malady: TETANY. New word to me. Dictionary defines TETANY as "a state marked by severe, intermittent tonic contractions and muscular pain, due to abnormal calcium metabolism." What's the difference between TETANY & Tetanus then?

15D: Overworked to exhaustion: BURNT OUT

16D: Bellicose deity: ARES. The Greek god of war (Mars for the Romans).

17D: Futhark letter: RUNE. I had to check the dictionary for the meaning of "Futhark".

24D: Bridge position: EAST. "But soft! What light through yonder window breaks? It is the EAST and Juliet is the sun! Arise fair sun and kill the envious moon...". I like the way Romeo romanticised Juliet. Sometimes love is very elusive, and so full of tears and fears.

25D: Masonic doorkeeper: TILER. No idea. Dictionary says it can also be spelled as TYLER, referring to the "doorkeeper of a Masonic lodge".

36D: Romani people in Spain: GITANOS. Spanish for GYPSY. New to me. It's "Bohémian" in French.

41D: Paradise resident?: UTOPIAN. Perfect clue.

42D: Actress Fabray: NANETTE. I've never heard of her name before. Have you seen this before?

46D: Avant-garde art movement: DADA. Ennui. I am so tired of DADA. When are you going to clue SURREALISM?

50D: Basutoland, today: LESOTHO. New to me also, both the clue and the answer. It's encircled by South Africa.

52D: Gulf off Brittany: ST. MALO. Another unknown. Alright, Map of Brittany, See ST. MALO?

54D: Religious recluse: EREMITE

55D: Czech physicist Beckmann: PETR. No, completely unknown. What a strange name! He wrote "A History of PI".

57D: Jong and others: ERICAS. OK, let's review once again ERICA's Spitzer Morel Moral Lessons.

58D: Swedish rugs: RYAS. I like the lovely sun pattern in this RYA rug.

60D: Tapioca source: CASSAVA. How long do you think this CASSAVA is?

61D: Injected toxin: ANTIGEN. "-GEN" is a suffix meaning producer, "hydrogen" is another example.

62D: Back part: REAR END

67D: Pointed barbs?: ZINGERS. I like this Dorothy Parker Blue. Which of her quotes do you like the most?

72D: Forum footwear: SANDAL. I don't understand the clue. Why "Forum"?

79D: Old-time flasks: WINESKINS. See this picture.

90D:Govt. agcy. (1934-65): FHA (Federal Housing Administration). I got it from the across fills.

92D: Psalm ending: SELAH. Again, learned it from doing Xword.

93D: Roman law: LEX

96D: "Brigadoon" lyricist: LERNER (Alan Jay). Also the lyricist for "Gigi" & "Camelot".

101D: Constellation near Eridanus: LEPUS. It's more close to Orion I think. LEPUS is also known as "The Hare" constellation. New to me. Now I understand why rabbits and hares are called leporid mammals.

105D: Anticrime acronym: RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act). Enacted in 1970.

114D: G. I. wear: ODS. "Olive Drabs" I suppose.



flyingears said...

Just to start the day with a quote as per C.C.

Anyone who watches golf on television would enjoy watching the grass grow on the greens.
-Andy Rooney

Anonymous said...

thanks you aka willie for an enjoyable puzzle. it makes my Sunday plus i got the paper early this morning. i missed a few butthey worked back out on the thre recheck. iagree that PETR is a stangename, and i could not get Fugard. I had it Fagard with dissolate instade of dissolate. Great! but who is Robin Yount. neverheard of him. ROLL TIDE

Anonymous said...

Good morning all,

Wondering how many knew the answer LESOTHO? I got the answer from the crosses, but still didn't know if it was correct until checking C.C.'s blog.

St. Malo looks like a town instead of a Gulf, but overall enjoyed having the brain teased on a lazy Sunday morning. Lazy, because I don't have to worry about Gustav's horrendous winds, but will have some wind and rain.

ALucidDreamUndreamt said...

I've been away for a while. Busy with getting into clinical Orientation. I am at Children's Memorial Hospital in Chicago. They say it's the best Pediatric hospital in the country but I am a fan of St. Judes Children's Research Hospital myself. Anywho this is my first puzzle since Tues I think.

Just a few Comments...

Vena Cava is a term I'm too familiar with. Its the largest veins in the body that carries blood back to the heart for oxygenation. There is the superior and inferior vena cavas. I think they mean Hollow vein

LANI was new to me but Lift Every Voice is the title of the "Negro National Anthem"

I think the bears won the Super Bowl maybe in the mid 80's... I want to say 85. I know it was before I was born though. SPeaking of which I turn 22 the 11th of Sept

I've worn an opera hat before. Mine was collapsable. I guess if they all are then maybe people wore them to the opera and then took them off out of courtesy to the people behind them and either tucked them under their arms... or maybe sat on them

There is a difference between Tetany and Tetanus but I think it's an inferred difference. Tetanus is a disease and Tetany is a condition of another disease. Tetanus is caused by a bacterium, CLostridium tetani, which is why the give tetanus shots, and tetany is a symptom caused by hypocalcemia, mostly do to either accidental removal of the parathyroid gland or hypoparathyroidism. But I'm not 100% sure if those are accurate definitions that's just how I hear them being used in the clinical area. DPT shots didn't exist when my parents was growing up.

I think furthark, although I learned it as furthork, is the first six letters of the runic (not sure if that's a real word) alphabet (f, u, th, o, r, k)

I think Lesotho is a cute lil coutntry because of its location on the map. During the apartheid in South Africa, people would cross over into Lesotho and fly to another country

I think forum can be taken in 2 different ways in 72D. Forum with a tall man F is an ancient city in Rome and Romans wore sandals, and forum, with a short man f was a public square in Rome were people would meet, and again they wore sandals. But that might not have been what he was going for

I agree that Lepus is closer to Orion. It's at his 'foot' and Lepus is the 'hare' that Orion is pursuing.

ALucidDreamUndreamt said...

Oh I remember what I wanted to say about ACETONE! I was always taught that styrofoam couldn't be broken down and hence bad for the environment. One day I was painting and remember that you should never put gasoline in a styrofoam cup because the bottom would fall out. I decided to clean my paint brushes with acetone and when I poured it into the cup, the whole cup liquified and there was nothing left but a puddle of acetone, not even a little spec of white, just a clear puddle of acetone.

And acetone is also similar in chemical makeup to Ketones, a by product of fat metabolism when there is no carbohydrates the body can use for energy. Thats why diabetics and people on the Adkin's diet breath smell like fingernail polish remover. I kinda like that smell.

Argyle said...


I once used, for my answering machine message, "As Dorothy Parker use to say, 'What fresh Hell is this?'" but I kept getting the MLK, Jr. response, "Who is Dorothy Parker?".

Argyle said...

Another question, "Who edits Willy A. Wiseman"?

ALucidDreamUndreamt said...

I dunno who Dorothy Parker is :-((

Argyle said...

Original Post: posted by C. C. at 4:10 AM on Aug 31, 2008

c.c., you couldn't sleep or do you always post early on Sundays?

ALucidDreamUndreamt@11:20 AM
I dunno who Dorothy Parker is :-((

67D: Pointed barbs?: ZINGERS. I like this Dorothy Parker Blue. Which of her quotes do you like the most?

flyingears said...


Your input IS correct and there is not much to add. Both arer diseases: one caused by the bug and the other caused by the insufficient parathyroid hormone leading to a very low calcium in the serum... Same with your acetone comments. KETOSIS is the blood accumulation of ketones produced in diabetic ketoacidosis, which could be a deadly situation if not promptly taken care of... with insulin therapy and fluids.

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, After looking over C.C.'s original post, I can't say I'm too sorry I don't get the Sunday least, this particular crossword.

There were so many answers I would have had trouble with, although the proper name fill-ins might have helped. EURUS, TRENT, HIRAM, VENA, LANI, OISE, TETANY, TILER, ST MALO, PETR, ANTIGEN, SELEH and LEPUS would all have had me Googling like crazy.

The "show biz" answers are usually gimmes for me. I grew up going to the movies with my parents.

I loved C.C.'s "Triplets" link. The musical number was originally from the 1953 movie, "The Band Wagon", with Fred Astaire and the impossibly long-legged Cyd Charisse. It was also included in 1976's "That's Entertainment, Part II", a selection of wonderful song and dance numbers from MGM musicals of the 1930's, 40's and 50's. "Part II" was the follow up (what else?) for "That's Entertainment!" in 1974. MGM made so many musical movies during those three decades that one movie wasn't enough to showcase them. If anyone is interested seeing the best movie musical entertainment available, I recommend both of the "That's Entertainment" movies.

Dorothy Parker quotes -
"The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity."

"Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves."

Aluciddreamundremt, One of the benefits of a (good) movie is that it can give you a quick overview of an interesting subject. "Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle", starring Jennifer Jason Leigh, is a biographical movie about Dorothy Parker at a specific period in her life. It will give you a good idea of who she was and may lead you to read more about her, her friends, and some of her poetry.

BTW, your thought about the need for an opera hat to collapse is probably the correct answer to the difference between a regular top hat and the opera variety.

C.C. Thanks for the photo of Antonio Banderas.

Clear Ayes said...

I wonder why I can't seem to spell "Aluciddreamundreamt"? I always seem to leave out a letter or add an extra one. Sorry about that, I'll keep on trying to get it right.

I also wonder why some artists paint something as seemingly simple as Mondrian's "Composition", or Jackson Pollock's "splash" paintings and they are amazing masterworks? G.A.H. and I were at the Tate Modern Gallery in London a couple of years ago. This was where "I know it when I see it" came into play.

Flyinggears, Speaking of Golf Addicted Husband, until about 15 years ago, he would have agreed with Andy Rooney's assessment of TV golf....Boorrrring!! It's a totally different story now. When he can't be out there in person, he is searching the guide for Phil M., or another of his idols on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon.

There are several sites that feature Dorothy Parker's poetry. Here's one Parker Poems. Some of them are funny little verses, some are more layered.

DoesItinInk said...

Tennessee Tuxedo ( Tennessee Tuxedo ) was a penguin cartoon character whose voice was done by Don Adams. Don Adams became famous for his lead role in the 1960s tv series Get Smart. There was a recent movie based on this series. Amazing! A terrible movie based on a terrible tv show.

Dorothy Parker was a member of the famous Algonquin Round Table. Thanks, argyle, for the DP makes me interested in seeing the movie "Dorothy Parker's The Sexes".

Lesotho was one of the South African homelands. At the end of apartheid it became an independent country.

I really enjoyed this puzzle. The theme was clever, and now knowing the family name of the constructor, I can appreciate it even more. I needed to use Google to fill in the last 6 letters...the t in PETR, the n in ORNE, the es in ESSENE and the e and y in TETANY.

I found the psalm ending SELAH to sound very similar to the Arabic insallah meaning god willing. I wonder if there is an entymological link between the two words?

DoesItinInk said...

aluciddreamundreamt: Your birthdate 9/11 must be difficult? BTB, mine is 9/22...but I am far from being 22. ;-)

Anonymous said...

50A: Cubic decimeter: LITER. Makes perfect sense as the geometric solid known as a cube measures 10 centimeters, or 1 decimeter, on each side. It's volume!

92D: Psalm ending: SELAH. Read the book of Psalms in the Bible then you'll understand.

DoesItinInk said...

anonymous: I do not have a copy of the bible. Perhaps you could explain?

ALucidDreamUndreamt said...

I know that in the hospital a synonym for milliliter is cubic centimeter.

doesitinink: I think Lesotho became an independent in the 1960s and the apartheid didn't really end until the 1990s.

I have gotten use to having a bday on 9/11. I can't wait until I'm like 50. Age is a good thing in my culture. My parents are in their sixties. my mom was 44 and my dad was 42 when i was born.

C.C. Burnikel said...

A lucid dream... @ 10:13am,
I think, I think, I think, I think...Do you like Descartes or what? I like your comments tremendously, very informative and educating, esp on medical field. I was not surprised by your ACETONE/styrofoam cup accident, but I could not believe Atkins diet followers' breath smells like fingernail polish remover. Were you born in the US? Where did you grow up?

I don't understand your 11:10am "Who is Dorothy Parker?" comment. It's actually very common for Xword editors to edit their own constructions (NY Sun, LA Times, Newsday, etc). I posted today's blog earlier because I had other activities arranged.

Clear Ayes,
Thanks for the Parker poems link. I like "Afternoon".

Anonymous said...

I very much dislike Wows for Astounds. Plus it totally threw me for the NW corner. I thought it was Winston, but I didn't know Groom. Also, sauce for salsa to me is bad cluing; they mean the same thing – one in Spanish and one in English. I kept trying to use chili.

flyingears said...


I checked your blog page and your art work is promising. Good work, my brother.

Also, continue your work on your premed and future in medicine.

C.C. Burnikel said...

I found out that "inshallah" is the phonetic spelling of Arabic "in sha Allah" ("if Allah wills (it)). SELAH on the other hand, is of Hebrew origin meaning "pause".

Anonymous @ 1:36pm,
I was not saying that the LITER clue was incorrect. I just thought it was abstract.

Good point on SALSA.

Flyingears et al,
Thank you for checking in and leaving comments.

Anonymous said...

The Psalms in the Bible were Hebrew poems and some were set to music. SELAH indicates that at that point in the psalm or at the end of the psalm the reciter should pause.

Argyle said...

c.c., "Who is Dorothy Parker?" was the response people would leave on my answering machine(after the beep).

The outgoing message that they heard when they called me and the machine picked up was "As Dorothy Parker use to say, 'What fresh Hell is this?'"

C.C. Burnikel said...

Hey! I don't think I understand the "Great Vowel Shift" article you mentioned yesterday. Too hard for me to understand. But thank you for the note. I vodka and caviar you!

Clear Ayes & Argyle,
So who is your favorite painter and why?

Argyle said...

I have never seen great art up close so I appreciate what you say about it being much better.

I like realism best, even though my favorite painters, the Hudson River School, paint idealized pictures. I'd say what I like best is closer to illustrations than art

C.C. Burnikel said...

Anonymous @ 4:15pm of Friday,
Could not find your comment? That's because you were so SMART that you misplaced on Friday's blog. I've replied to you and I don't need a response. Go back to your lurking status!

Clear Ayes said...

Here's the perfect Dorothy Parker quote to defuse Anon 4:15's nonsense. "I know that ridicule may be a shield, but it is not a weapon."

A "smart" person who isn't interested in comparing puzzle solutions and difficulties, learning new words, exchanging observations and enjoying a laugh would not bother to read more than a line or two of your original post. If he or she can't figure out what the blog is about by then, they deserve to have their puzzle "ruined". I say, "Good For Us!!"

Dennis said...

Ladies, if I may be more direct, anon@4:15, grow some balls and post with an ID or shut the hell up and go back to your drool bucket.

Clear Ayes said...

C.C. You asked about favorite artists. I'm rather partial to the late 19th century French artists. I love the exoticism of Gauguin Tahitian Women on the Beach, the movement of Toulouse-Lautrec Two Women Waltzing, the intensity of Van Gogh The Red Vineyard and the delicacy of Renoir By TheWater and Degas The Millinery Shop. It is almost impossible to choose a favorite. It is like Lois' remark a while back, "Love the one you're with."

If you want to see a couple of favorites based on pure affection Portrait and Ducks 1944 were painted by my mother. The portrait is of my daughter at 18 years old.

Dennis...Yuk, Yuk....Us smarterer folks do haf a way of expressin' ournselfs.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Hmmm, I was surprised. I thought I had felt some idealism & romanticism in Santa.

OK, I was conquered, you won the MOREL victory!

Clear Ayes,
All impressionists? No wonder I like you so much. No Cézanne?

Arbgoto from alabama @ 7:40am,
Please do spelling check before you publish your post next Sunday. Your comments have been tough to read.

Clear Ayes said...

Darn it! I knew I forgot somebody Cezanne's Still Life with Apples and Oranges. Cézanne's still lifes are so vibrant. There are still others who are worth mentioning Children On A Beach by Mary Cassatt. Her depiction of children is so beautiful.

I give up....there's Pisarro and Monet. My mind is swimming with artists.

ALucidDreamUndreamt said...

C.C. I was born in the U.S., Chicago, Illinois. Love it here. SO many opurtunities.

DoesItinInk said...

aluciddreamumdreamt @2:15: Thank you for the correction of when Lesotho became an independent country.

Argyle said...

Still working on the Prestons puzzle but I'll give you the theme clues.

Likely Sounds:
23A Devout defender - 10 letters
25A Tiny terror - 10 letters
42A Foxy female? - 11 letters
51A Pusilllanimous know-it-all - 11 letters
70A Cheerleading coach? - 11 letters
78A Crybaby? - 11 letters
97A Crazed pundit? - 10 letters
99A Cultured kid? - 10 letters

I'll be back with the answers in awhile(I hope).

Argyle said...

33D Tree surgeon? - 11 letters
39D Priggish sot? - 11 letters

Argyle said...'s the answers.

Likely Sounds:

23A Devout defender - Holy goalie
25A Tiny terror - riled child
42A Foxy female? - canny granny
51A Pusilllanimous know-it-all - craven maven
70A Cheerleading coach? - rooter tutor
78A Crybaby? - minor whiner
97A Crazed pundit? - balmy swami
99A Cultured kid? - couth youth
33D Tree surgeon? - arbor barber
39D Priggish sot? - stewed prude

The last one got a LOL out of me.

KittyB said...

Evening, C.C. and all.

C.C., I finally saw one of your questions to me about Shostakovich, and "fingerwork."

I can't find the message where I was talking about fingerwork, so I don't know if I was referring to quilting or playing a music instrument, or something else. Direct me to the comment and I'll try to give you an answer. I was traveling when you asked, away from my computer, and I missed your question.

As for Shostakovich, I was an impressionable high school student when I first performed his works. I fell in love with his tonal pieces, for their Romantic themes, although he is better known for the atonal experimentation of his later works.

In college, I came to appreciate his orchestration, the use of instruments, and the choice of key signatures and chord progressions.

I have pretty eclectic taste in music, but I like the Russians as a whole, and Shostakovich in particular.

It's been a very long day, and time to crash. I hope those of you near the Gulf and Gustav are safe.

Hopefully tomorrow will bring us a fun puzzle.

Anonymous said...

seems like there is more and more names every week, ruining the puzzles in my mind

kazie said...

anonymous, either you don't get it, or you haven't read the reactions to your earlier comments. Do the puzzle before checking in here! Google all you want or use this blog to get the answers you miss, but learn from the experience! This only enhances it, and doesn't spoil anything.
At least you're lucky enough to get this puzzle on Sundays. Like clear ayes, I don't get the Star Trib one. I'm stuck with the New York Times one on Sundays, which would prevent me from getting anything else done if I spent time on it.
dennis 6:10 pm, I say ditto!

Anonymous said...

IT seems like there ARE more and more idiots who don't know the basic rules of grammar or punctuation.

If you don't like this blog, start your own, Dummy.

DoesItinInk said...

anonymous: I don't understand why you feel it necessary to be so abusive. If you do not like the contents of this blog, don't bother to visit it. If you do like it, be nice!

kazie said...

anonymous, apologies if there are two anonymouses.
My comments were directed at the anon@4:15's remarks referred to earlier, the one who ungrammatically put this very erudite group down. Is that a separate nameless one? It seems we might need more than one way of designating those who don't use a name.

kazie said...

Sorry for the double post--it looked as if it wasn't going to go.

clear ayes, my aunt was also an artist and did many paintings in oil and watercolors, some of which we have on our walls too.

And like you, I am also fond of the Impressionists. The Musée d'Orsay in Paris has my favorite collection.

Clear Ayes said...

Good Evening All,
It looks like somebody out there is cranky and needs to take a nap. I have a hard time believing that an adult would whine about other people having a good time with friends.

I would imagine that anon 10:29 has quite a few puzzles in his/her mind that aren't easily solvable, and that most of them have nothing to do with crosswords.

Fortunately for us, we won't let such pettiness get in the way of our good times. We'll start tomorrow morning with a new puzzle, new words, new opinions, comments and fun as usual.

I'm not sure if it is more laughable or pathetic that anon 10:29 and the earlier anon 4:15 would rather sulk and complain than join in.

Kazie, I think the Anon at 11:04 was putting in 2 cents on our behalf. Those Anons are the polite ones, who usually read and enjoy, but don't participate. Thanks to all of them.

Dennis said...

clear ayes, some people just like to take shots from a distance, because they have nothing to contribute. Sad.

Anonymous said...

Forum is an ancient roman term meaning arena meeting hall. Hence the answer sandals. Early roman footwear. An old 60's movie, A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO THE FORUM. A stupid comedy not worth watching. The Bears won a super bowl in 1986. That year they won almost every game. They lost to Miami, who, at that time, were the only undefeated team in an entire season in modern football. Green Bay had an undefeated record in 1929, but for some reason, it is not considered a true record. I can't explain that.


steve said...

good morning CC & DF's

This is the fastest I have evere completed one of these. I didn't time it, but it must of been about 10-15 minutes. this is good considering I got up a 2AM to go dove hunting with Lola. What a mistake. two hour drive, stumble out into a safflower field at 5. Didn't see a bird until 8:15. Left for home at 9:30 with one dove. Lola had fun though.

I had a little trouble with LOGIA but got it with the perps, same with 55A. Pratt was a gimme. I have thousands of hours with them. The other big aircraft engine makers are GE and Roles Royce