Feb 7, 2009

Saturday February 7, 2009 Ed Voile

Theme: None

Total blocks: 34

Total words: 70

This is the first puzzle that I've solved with so few Down fills. Only 25 answers, compared with 45 Across words. And four of them have 15 letters:

3D: Flock and pride, e.g.: COLLECTIVE NOUNS

6D: Predatory insects: PRAYING MANTISES

7D: cousin of colitis: GASTROENTERITIS

11D: Digestive tract: ALIMENTARY CANAL

To steal a line from SEC whistle blower Harry Markopolos, this grid "roars like a lion and bites like a flea". Can't believe SEC took no action for 10 years when it took this guy only five minutes to figure out Bernie Madoff was a fraud.

I did have some trouble at the lower left quadrant. I did not know "No, no, NANETTE" and had trouble deciphering REDALGAE (37D: Source of agar). Has forgotten all the edible RED ALGAE dulse discussion we had a few weeks ago. I only use nori seaweed to wrap my rice balls.


4A: With it, once: HEP. I still see people use the word HEP occasionally. "With it, once"?

15A: Part of E.E.C.: EUR. Interesting intersection with EUROPA (5D: Icy satellite of Jupiter), which was named after the Greek goddess, from whom Europe derived.

16A: Spaces between leaf veins: AREOLAE. Last time the answer is a different plural form AREOLES. Can also be AREOLAS. Boring clue. I wanted "Nipple rings" .

25A: Elbe tributary: EGER. I can't find a map. Wikipedia says EGER is also a Hungarian city best known for its castle & thermal baths & wines. Nicknamed "Rome of Hungary". I wonder why most of those roofs are red.

26A: Capital on the Missouri River: PIERRE. Lingered here when we went to Billings a few years ago. A small charming city. Very quiet and clean. It's named after the fur trader PIERRE Chouteau.

27A: Old high note: ELA. The obscure Guido's high note.

33: Verizon, once: GTE. Only learned this morning that Verizon is a portmanteau of veritas and horizon. It's formed in 2000 when GTE merged with Bell Atlantic.

40A: Construct a retaining wall: REVET. No idea. Dictionary explains REVET as "to retain (an embankment, for example) with a layer of stone, concrete, or other supporting material; provide with a revetment." And it's rooted in French word "revetir", meaning "to clothes again". The noun is revetment. I did not know that there is a special term for those stony embankment.

38A: Adult males: MEN. And MAN (50A: Isle of __). Not sure if NY Times will allow this singular & plural form appear in one puzzle.

42A: Big place in California?: SUR. Big SUR.

44A: Invalidate: CANCEL. I thought of debunk.

51A: Prefix meaning different: HETERO. Heterosexual.

52A: __ homo (Behold the man!): ECCE. Last time ECCO is clued as "Behold, to Bellini". Italian for ECCE I suppose.

53A: Afrafat's org.: PLO. It's "Abbas's org." now.

54A: Of part of the eye: IRIDIC. New word to me. You would think the adjective for iris would be irisic.

61A: 'No, No,__": NANETTE. Have never heard of this musical before. Interesting trivia: Wikipedia says the producer of the show, a former owner of the Red Sox, financed the show by selling Babe Ruth to the Yankees.

64A: Artist's bases: GESSOES. Thought the plural form is just GESSOS.

66A: WWII landing craft: LST (Landing Ship Tank). The boat used in "Saving Private Ryan".


2D: Caspian sturgeon: BELUGA. I suppose those black stuff are BELUGA? Have never tasted it before.

9D: Clairvoyant women: SEERESSES. Cassandra was a SEERESS. She foresaw the fall of Troy. But because she did not return Apollo's love, he cursed her and nobody believed in her predictions.

12D: Certain Israeli: GALILEAN. Jesus is one.

23D: Given life, eg.: SENTENCED. I like this clue.

32D: Toss among: PITCH INTO

35D: Ducks and dodges: ELUDES

45D: hang out to freshen: AERATE

46D: John and Sondra: LOCKES. Knew John LOCKE, not Sondra LOCKE. Wikipedia says she is best known for frequently starring in films with Clint Eastwood.

57D: Presidential election loser of '50s: AES. Poor Adlai Stevenson. Always a "loser" in our editor's eye. How about "JFK's UN ambassor" or "DDE's opponent/challenger" rather than "Loser to DDE" all the time. He dated Lauren Bacall for some time, right?



Martin said...

Stop Hammer time
(Oh-oh oh oh oh-oh-oh) (x2)
(Oh-oh oh-oh oh-oh oh-oh)
(Oh-oh oh oh oh-oh-oh) u can't touch this (x3)
(Oh-oh oh oh oh-oh-oh) break it down
(Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh) (x2)
Stop Hammer time

25 minutes and 46 seconds.



C.C. Burnikel said...

What? It's not a hammer to me. I must be getting better then. "Capital of Gre" sounds very weak for ATH.

"Adjectives can only connote, nouns can denote". What's the difference between connote and denote?

"We've had several price increases in the last year". Did you mean the subscription fee?

Click on Print, then click Blank Puzzle.

C.C. Burnikel said...

What if the smoke of the tube is just gray?

Lemonade & Bill,
Joshua Bell calls his violin STRAD. It's a well-accepted word now. No need for abbreviation.

Anonymous @ 8:24am,
Peter Goss was an CIA officer for many years and served as the Chairman for the House Intelligence Committee prior to his CIA Director appointment. That's plenty of intelligence experience to me.

Thank you for Oregon connected information yesterday.

C.C. Burnikel said...

My picture? Think GE. "Imagination at Work"! God, can't tell you how disappointed I am with Jeff Immelt.

Clear Ayes,
I just don't understand why PINTOS is clued as "Painted pony". Why "Painted" instead of "Paint" then?

Jimmy, S Carolina,
Good clue for CONG.

Everyone has a trash can, but you can only see yours.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Bill & Johnboy & Gator Mom,
Indeed, ATH is not a word.

Dr. G,
Funny ATH clue.

Thanks for the link on Job's "Pour out tears to God". Interesting read.

I cooked Job's Tears soup several times. Have never seen the plant in person, have you?

Dick said...

Good morning CC and all, today is the first Saturday without the Beaver Valley Times. As a cost cutting move there will be no further papers on Saturday. Being forced to solve on line today I found it a bit awkward to pull up the correct clue that I wanted. This caused me to take longer than it would have if being done on paper. That being said, I found the puzzle stimulating, but not too difficult. Time was about 12 minutes. Next time I will print the puzzle first.

CC I like your clue for "areolae" much better than Mr. Voile's. I also remember, very well, the suits that made you HEP.

Col_Gopinath said...

Good evening from Inida,
Learnt a lot of new words got through with a lille bit of googling.
Cheerio enjoy your Sunday

Martin said...

What? It's not a hammer to me. I must be getting better then.

Well, I guess I'm just not used to reading 15-letter words from top to bottom. I'm happy to hear that you found it easy and I'm sorry if I'm coming across as an ATHhole today. :)


NYTAnonimo said...

Off two letters-had IRIsIC (and SENTENCEs) and DYEd (and dESEAT). Didn't want to take the time to look for the mistakes. Didn't really care for this puzzle-guess I don't like to hear about GASTROENTERITIS and ALIMENTARYCANAL when I'm drinking my morning coffee.

I did mean subscription fee C.C.. Think we're one of the few people on our street still getting home delivery.

Argyle said...

C. C. said @ 5:57 AM
Argyle, what if the smoke of the tube is just gray?

Old, very old.

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

I found this to be a very challenging puzzle, although I was able to eventually finish it unassisted (well, except for one minor mistake that I didn't notice until I thought I had finished).

The only true unknowns for me today were EGER and IRIDIC, but there were a lot of clues that threw me for a bit of a loop. I was thinking NEW or CIT for 10D ("Part of NYC) instead of BOR (which I assume is short for Borough). I think of AERATE meaning adding oxygen to (like water in a fish tank) and not "hanging out to freshen). I knew GESSO, but thought the plural was GESSOS and not GESSOES. I knew ADELE Astaire, but not Simpson (ditto with John LOCKE but not Sondra). And what, exactly, is a clothIER?

Oh -- my one mistake was putting RAW instead of NEW for 30D. I knew that 11D was ALIMENTARY CANAL and not ALIMERTARY CANAL, but I just didn't notice the error. I did think that GALILAAN couldn't possibly be right, though, and that's what made me check my answer in the end.

In closing, I just want to ask: Has anybody, ever, throughout all of history, used ADE to refer to a drink outside of a crossword puzzle? I've heard of lemonade and limeade, but is ADE even a real word all by itself?

Anonymous said...

13:00 flat today! How did Jeff Immelt disappoint you?

thanks for the AREOLAE picture! no piercings though.

our local paper has lost a big advertiser and the publisher cut three staff dropped printing to three days a week and fired the carriers and is mailing the paper to subscribers. It has also increased in price to 75 cents. Too pricey in my opinion for a small hometown paper that doesn't offer much local news.

Anonymous said...

Adlai Stevenson. He dated Lauren Bacall for some time, right?

I wasn't able to find a mention on his wikipedia page.

On hers it mentions that she was a supporter and gave speeches but doesn't mention the affair either.

She was married Bogart around the time Adlei got divorced. SO maybe that was the reason.

Anonymous said...

Good morning, though Saturdays always start later for me. My first run through I thought this was an impossible puzzle, but kept chipping away, and managed to finish, with no g. I was lucky with IRIDIC; I had a corneal transpalnt many years ago, and they also did an IRIDECTOMY on that eye (they made a hole in my IRIS, but that is another story). Anyway, I agree BOR really slowed me down, and never heard of REVET. I liked the dredging up of TRINI LOPEZ, and SONDRA LOCKE, who was also Clint's live in girl friend for many years. Adlai Stevenson was a very bright guy, but before his time. I was little, but I remember his speeches. Enjoy the week end, we do not get Sunday here, so we do the NYTimes. Thanks for the STRAD update. PS as ADE is part of my screen name, I must defend its use, beside what else is sold on sidewalks.

Linda said...

CC: No..(Job`s tears) only picture on "wikki-p".

Today is Gasparrilla Day in Tampa..."Pirates" invade and it`s Mardi Gras x 2! (Named for Jose Gaspar)

Anonymous said...

Oh and the " black stuff" are the eggs, from the sturgeons, which comprise BELUGA Caviar which sells for $3,000.00 to more than $10,000.00 per pound! I have had some, and it was tasty, but I was glad I was not paying for it.

Auntie Naomi said...

Good Morning C.C. and Co.,

I did not do too well on this one. It took me 16:38 and I think I may have a couple of wrong anthers. What is 47A?

C.C., I think you meant Babe Ruth. Also, the link for the LST picture did not work for me.
Glad you enjoyed the Job's Tears info :)

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, Was it Argyle who suggested solving all the Downs first? I usually do that for Thursday Quips 'N Quotes, but not on other days. I tried it this morning and was rather startled that I got the 15 letter D's without much trouble. Well, I did start out with ALIMENTARY TRACT. I hadn't finished my first cup of coffee and forgot that "tract" was part of the clue, but fixed that quickly. We recently talked about COLLECTIVE NOUNS, so that was easy. I misspelled GASTROENTERITIS at first and had to tweak that along the way. The Downs and Acrosses I didn't get were helped by the perps.

Several of the other answers had also been discussed here recently. Thanks, Wolfmom for GESSOES. GASBAGS and RED ALGAE were also remembered topics. What a big help this blog has been to me!

C.C. Why "Painted" instead of "Paint" then? I think the editor hadn't had the benefit of reading the explanation and didn't realize that the correct term is "Paint", rather than "Painted". It is a common mistake. The lyrics to the song Spinning Wheel contain the lyrics, "Ride a painted pony let the spinning wheel spin."

Linda said...

CC: I am a "spatial/configuration" learner/solver. Vertical words throw me...especially multi-syllabic ones. I`ve found that "word-find" puzzles help that short-coming.

BTW...Sandra Locke filed an historic "palimony" case against Clint she "starred" in real (as well as reel) life with Eastwood. The parting was particularly acrimonious. "Hell hath no fury....."

Col_Gopinath said...

47A is DYER

DoesItinInk said...

@Col_Gopinath...Perhaps you missed my posting to you several days ago. I had checked out your Hindu Crossword puzzle blog and was interested in where I could find the puzzle on-line. I am not adept at the British style of puzzle but think your blog along with the puzzle might help me learn. Thanks.

DoesItinInk said...

This was not a difficult puzzle, though I did have one mistake. I can never remember “spaces between leaf veins” (though I think cc’s suggested clue of “nipple rings” might help me remember it in the future) and obviously do NOT know how to spell BORough, so I had “bur” and “areulae” instead. HEP is an older term than “hip” which is what I filled in originally until I got enough of the crosses to realize 5D to be EUROPA.

20A could also be clued “Little friend of Sluggo”. Little Lulu was my favorite comic book when I was young!

A car alarm in the neighborhood went off at 5 am this morning. Several nasty notes under the windshield wiper (one was mine) and a ticket, the alarm finally stopped around 10:30 am. I am so tired, my ears are ringing, and I have SO much I have to do today! UUGH!

Anonymous said...

You mentioned that Jesus was a Galilaean. True. In the time of Jesus, Palestine was divided into three parts - Galilee to the north, Judea to the South and Samaria in the middle. Judeans and Galilaeans were Israelites but Samarians were a mixed race and not accepted by the Israelites. Because the Temple was in Jerusalem
(in Judea)the 'intellectuals' - the lawyers, scholars and others in the Rabbinic circles looked down on the Galilaeans who were mostly working class people, lacking in culture. They had a very definite dialect, possibly accent, so they were easily recognized as Galilaeans. This was one of several reasons that the religous leaders did not accept Jesus. Even though they
were all Jews, at that time they used the term 'Jews' to refer to the people of Judea.

Linda said...

Clear Ayes: About the "painted pony"...I always thought, since the "spinning wheel" went `round and `round that the painted pony referred to a carousel horse...what did I miss?

Col_Gopinath said...

Hi Doesltinlink
Sorry I missed your post to me regarding the HINDU crossword Blog. THE HINDU is a newspaper which is popular in India more so in South India. The paper is available online at and the Crossword can be accessed under the miscellaneous section link, however it cannot be done online so you will have to print it to do it. The crossword is the Cryptic type with a lot of anagrams, so Google will not be of much help in doing it, however a Thesaurus is useful at times, I use Roget's Thesaurus. Have been doing it for a number of years. Started the blog recently after seeing the one started by CC. As of now I have no followers on it.
The Sunday crossword is really tough and on very rare occasions have I managed to complete it.

Auntie Naomi said...

Thanks Col. Well, I guess that's one of those ' ah' moments for me. I don't care for the clue. It assumes that the blond dyed herself. Bah!

ClearEyes, The guy who posted that BS&T video claims that it was the first and best of the jazz-rock horn bands. I am sure he would get a bit of argument from fans of Earth, Wind and Fire or Tower of Power

In college I played a concert with one of the original members of Blood, Sweat and Tears, Randy Brecker. One of the pieces we played was this very difficult song.

Anonymous said...

I found this puzzle quite challening as some of the answers I had not heard of. Thank God for thi place or I would never get all the answers until Monday morning. Saturday's puzzles are a bit harder than those on the weekdays I notice but keeps the mind working.

maria said...

Good afternoon, c.c. and all

well, i diditinink this morning and what a mess
Clearayes, i wish i' d known about the nouns
although i got 3D from the perps i first thought of a Flock of birds and a Pride of lions. hah

very stimulating and challenging today and
C.C. even my illiterate c/w friend told me on the phone earlier the trash can theory, and you confirmed it ! that was great !

WM said...

I guess I'm with Martin on this one. Just couldn't get my brain in gear for it.

C.C. Beluga, Osetra and Sevruga are the 3 most expenive forms of caviar and the names are taken from the type of sturgeon they come from. The sturgeon take a very long time to mature and with all the poaching that has gone on, the price of the Beluga has risen substantially. There is a very good company here in CA, TSAR NICOULAI, that raises a sustainable product which is very tasty and fairly reasonably priced, for caviar.

The quality of the caviar depends on the skill of the person who does the salting to preaerve the eggs. Russian caviar was always the gold standard but a lot of the Iranian caviar is also quite good, along with this CA company who also do salmon, trout and "flavored" flying fish roe..

JD...I got into the Los Gatos Museum show!

Clear Ayes said...

Lemonade714 beside what else is sold on sidewalks? about Rolex watches, Gucci handbags or Dior perfume? My husband and I brought home several "genuine" Rolexes that we bought on the sidewalks of Shanghai to give as fun gifts to family. They each cost $10 or less. Some of them are still working after four years!

Linda@11:04, I'm sure you're right about the song referring to painted carousel horses. I was just stuck on the term "painted pony". Still, I think the editor was in error with the clue "painted pony", unless he was referred to a pony that had been dipped in a pot of paint. :o) English is a confusing language! How about Loudon and Rufus Wainwright's I Ride An Old Paint instead?

Wolfmom, I've never had Russian caviar, but have eaten Iranian caviar. I was told it was very good quality and have no reason to disbelieve the information. However, I have to say, I think caviar is an acquired taste I have yet to acquire.

Auntie Naomi said...

Well with both 'acquired taste' and 'horse' being mentioned in the same comment, I feel compelled to share this:
This morning, I had a hankering for oatmeal, which I had not had in years. Failing to remember the required ratio of water to rolled oats, I utilized the 'G'-Spot (yes, I know you will be shocked). I ran across a forum where someone else had inquired as to the answer to my very question, 'How do you cook oats?' One person replied, 'You don't. They are horse food!'

I also ran across this little joke:

A tough, old cowboy once counseled his grandson that if he wanted to live a long life, the secret was to sprinkle a pinch of gunpowder on his oatmeal every morning.
The grandson did this religiously and lived to the age of 110.
He left four children, 20 grandchildren, 30 great grandchildren, 10
great great grandchildren and a 50 foot hole where the crematorium used to be.

WM said...

ClearAyes...Iranian caviar is definitely good quality. In taste tests that a few food magazines held a few years ago, the Iranian products scored very high, sometimes higher than the Russian product. Same waters, same I said, it is ultimately the skill of the person in charge of the salting process who determines the over all quality. My favorite is actually the Sevruga which is usually dark to light brown and has a really lovely taste. In my cheesemonger days I also had to have caviar on hand during the holidays and we had "tastings" from several of the producers and, unfortunately for my pocketbook, acquired a taste for it.

maria said...

c.c. i forget to mention the Beluga , if you' ve never hat it, you must try it once in your lifetime it is to die for and no substitutes can touch it

I used to get it at Duty Free in Heathrow airpt on special occasions like X' mas visiting brother and fam. in Italy but that was when the price was still manageable and i would only get a 3 oz. jar

i highly recommend it for your special occasion . . .

maria said...

c.c. and oh, there are several ways of serving it (Beluga) but on a slice of bread an butter (sweet) will do just as good

WM said...

PromiseMeThis: Great joke! LOL

On the oatmeal ratio, if you are using regular rolled oats(not instant) you can pretty much use an equal amount of water to oatmeal. Microwave it for 2 min and it comes out pretty good...I don't know if there is any actual connection, but my husband eats oatmeal every morning, topped with homemade granola, yogurt and dried cranberries...his cholesteral is so low it is, maybe it really does work!

kazie said...

G'day to all.
I thought I was in for a hammer today, but ended up getting it all except for ADE (forgot the RED part of algae, and had RIVET, not knowing of REVET), and 27A ELA. Knew I'd seen that before but couldn't summon it up. Maybe because I did the whole thing in short snatches while proctoring an A.C.T. test this morning and having no google or other resources available.

I'll get back to you on the connote/denote thing. I have a feeling it's related to the prefix meanings though, but I have company here and will check in again later after I look them up.

Auntie Naomi said...

wolfmom, it is worthwhile to note that when researchers discovered that oats effectively lowered cholesterol they were actually researching oats effect upon blood sugar levels. While they did discover that oats could lower cholesterol, the effects on blood sugar were much more significant. Oats are remarkably effective at helping to establish homeostasis (balance) of blood sugar levels. Every person who is either hypoglycemic or diabetic ought to know about it, as well as the significant effects of the mineral chromium. When one gains a basic understanding of the cycle of glucose metabolism in the human body and, subsequently, of the myriad ill affects of the consumption of refined sugars, one cannot help but suspect that it is the blood sugar moderating effects of oats that contribute to longevity.
Dr.G, If you have the time, please feel free to correct me, if you feel I am mistaken.

kazie, "short snatches"? I am not even going to go there.

Clear Ayes said...

I just priced Royal Beluga Caviar online...YIKES! The Iranian caviar was priced at a paltry $160 an ounce. I'm feeling sorry for you folks who have acquired the taste for such a luxury item! Unless I am treated, I think Russian Beluga will have to be on my "When H*** Freezes Over" list. are a naughty boy!!

Anonymous said...

Good afternoon C C and all.
Promise me this, thanks for the info on oats. It is certainly of interest to me being a type 2 diabetic.
I gessos we will be seeing that word or a some form therof in the future. Thanks to Wolfmom it should be a "gimme" for everyone.
Nytanonimo, I also had irisic. Now I dont feel so dumb.
Had a hard time with N East corner

Jimmy, S Carolina

embien said...

11:15 today. ADE was my last fill as I consider that to be a non-word (if somewhat common crosswordese).

In general, I liked this puzzle. The long 15-letter downs were especiallly fun and I knew I was off to the races when I filled in PRAYING MANTISES with zero crosses.

@c.c.: Embien,
What's the logo on your hat?

I had to replace my photo when blogger evidently lost my original (I notice that c.c.'s photo has disappeared as well).

It's POTB for Port of Tillamook Bay. They used to run the railroad that goes to my closest town (Banks, OR). The line got washed out in several places in the floods last year. You can see some photos of the devasation here POTB 2007 flood damage. The estimates are for $57.3 million to repair the line.

Anonymous said...

Sondra Locke:

She was Clint Eastwood's 'Spousal Equivalent' for many years. I seem to recall a nasty palimony suit that resulted from their break-up.

I enjoy your crossword webpage.


WM said...

PRomiseMeThis...Thank you for the terrific info. I very much like to understand the process, besides just trying to eat a healthy diet.

Embien...the devestation is awful! I been been to Tillamook and it is gorgeous country...

Anonymous said...

Hey guys

Enjoy your comments. What is "one time link" ref to or mean?
I got it because of eclat but had ala. AARGH!

Sandra Locke also had production company
(on stock exchange) called Kushner after her Eastwood
days. Perhaps in settlement money.


Argyle said...

I can't belive no one has mentioned the Frasier episode- Roe To Perdition
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

DoesItinInk said...

@M...anonymous: the "one time link" is AT A, as in "one at a time".

Anonymous said...


Thanks !! I feel like an idiot.
But I will remember it
from now on.

Enjoy the day.


Anonymous said...

Hello once again from the Oregon coast. (The opposite end of embian's railroad). I'm here every day, just don't get around to posting because I don't have my name in blue yet!

I really hesitate to do the Saturday xword...much rather rest everything - including my mind - on this day. The hammer hit hard!

My reason for jumping in here was to ask if anyone else was bothered by the clue to 38A? I was pretty sure of the answer, but "adult male" whats? deer, bear, beef? Oh, humans! Splitting hairs, I know, but it should have been clued as such imho.

Thanks again C. C. for the blog. One of my "everyday" stops.

Anonymous said...

Greetings all. I have learned to close the site and re-enter because there may well have been answers to queries while I was online. Sure enough, a few moments ago I was going to reply to "one at a time", and found three new entries including the answer. That may well explain why some of us are answering questions already answered.
We're off to the Greek festival with food and dancing, yippee.

DoesItinInk said...

@M...anonymous: Don't feel like an idiot. All of us had to learn what "link" in a clue is looking for, and anyway working crossword puzzles is how you get better at them.

Anonymous said...

C.C. The denotation of a word is the literal (or dictionary) meaning. The connotation is an additional meaning the word brings. For example: fiddle and violin. They are both the same instrument--do difference whatsoever, but what comes to mind when you hear each. We connote country-western or blue grass with "fiddle," and classical, or at least more serious, music with the word "violin."


kazie said...

That damage looks terrible. I hope they get the money to fix it. We rely too much on gas powered transport and not enough on rail in this country.

I agree about adult male.

c.c. and Doreen,
Doreen's explanation covers the difference in the words "denote" = to give the meaning of something, whereas "connote" indicates what something is associated with ("cum", or in later Latin, "con" = with).

I think the reason nouns would "denote" is that their function is to name things--their definition is "the name of a person, place or thing".

Adjectives qualify, or modify nouns, hence they give a point of reference with which to associate a particular noun: a beautiful woman--you associate her with beauty, even though that is only one aspect of her. I'm not sure this is any clearer, but I hope it helps.

kazie said...

I always just use the refresh button (F5) each time I come back, noting how many extra comments show in the number of comments, then count up from the bottom, and start reading from where I was the last time before commenting.

Clear ayes,
Was that a DF comment? I was serious--I couldn't concentrate in an unbroken effort while doing that job. But then, maybe that helped, to keep coming back after breaks from it.

Crockett1947 said...

Hello all!

If, when first getting the new day's blog, you click on the date heading in orange, you will re-load the blog with comments open, but without the pictures.

In this configuration, whenever you click on a link and return back, you will return to the exact spot you were before clicking on the link.

If you refresh (F5) when you reach the bottom of the comments, any new comments that have been posted while you have been reading will be posted below what you have just read.

If there are no new comments, you will stay at the bottom of the comments area.

When you return to the blog, hit F5 and look at the new entries, and so on and so on....

Auntie Naomi said...

I suspect that a good half of the US population is pre-diabetic (i.e. hypoglycemic.) Everywhere you turn, the crusade against smoking is apparent ... yet nobody is talking about that poison called 'sugar'. A good book about it is, 'The Sugar Blues'.

Try starting your day with a bowl of oatmeal and then avoid any refined sugars for the rest of the day. You may find, later, that you require smaller doses of insulin.
Of course, you should discuss this with your physician.

Anonymous said...

embien et al:
I cannot come up with a specific instance of it, but I do recall that in the 1930's -40's we would occastionally use the word ADE as a separate word, usually with another word that defined what sort of ade we meant.

Clear Ayes said...

Embien, Congratulations to your father. What a wonderful treat that wedding must have been.

Kazie, LOL, around here just about anything can be taken as a DF comment. But PromiseMeThis was being "playful" and just couldn't resist a comment.

PromiseMeThis, At my age, I'm always fighting the battle of the bulge. I've found the best diet that works for me is the "Stay Away From Anything White" regimen. I avoid white sugar and things made with white flour. Potatoes are a once in a while treat. I do give into temptation occasionally, but try to keep it to a minimum. It's not easy for someone who thinks the smell of freshly baked bread is the next best thing to heaven.

Too late for a poem today, but I'll be back on track tomorrow.

JD said...

Good evening to all,

Embien, congrats! What a special celebration that must have been for the family.

Wolfmom, kudos to you for making it into the Los Gatos Museum show! What an honor! Wish I could attend.

Dot @ 11:03, I enjoyed the information on Israelites and Samarians. Had no idea that the Galilaeans were considered lower class.

and lastly, Martin, I also have a rough time figuring out 15 letter words perpendicularly. Maybe we need to do "word finds." Today's puzzle was challenging, but doable. For 10D I had SOL ( Statue of Liberty), and other odd mistakes.
Had never heard of "hep" so looked it up and found out that it was used back in 1908.In 1915 it was like, "Are you hep to the jive?" Hepcat was used in the 1920's, and then hepster in the 1930's.So, are we all hip now???

JD said...

Kazie, that is something I would have said without thinking. I snickered at his comment. You guys are so quick!

Auntie Naomi said...

"PromiseMeThis was being "playful" and just couldn't resist a comment"

Yes, it's true. Tho thorry!

Anonymous said...

Promise me this
My diabetes is type 2 which used to be called "non insulin dependent diabetes". The body makes insulin but does not know how to use it.
Apologies to anybody who is still awake. I am sure its boring you to death.

Jimmy, S. Carolina

Anonymous said...

"Nipple Rings!!!". I like your style.

Anonymous said...

Along with your oatmeal, you should incorporate cinnamon into your diet. If you can tolerate cinnamon without sugar, you can add it to the oatmeal or use it some other way. Also, they sell cinnamon capsules at health food stores. My husband is diabetic and the Dr. told him to use the cinnamon.
Cleareyes, Your "No- white diet" sounds like one I should use. My husband's theory is,"If it tastes good its not good for you." so just avoid anything you really like! Dot

Crockett1947 said...

I get the feeling I'm missing something here. ClearAyes at 8:40 talks about a wedding and then JD chimes in at 9:02, and I can't find a post from embien about any wedding. What gives? Someone please help.

kazie said...

Clear Ayes and Promisemethis,
In my haste, I had attributed the snatches comment to Clear Ayes. Sorry!

Embien and Crockett,
I hadn't seen anything about a wedding either. I just checked and it was late last night. When I first came here today, I was too rushed to check what I missed last night. So I'm adding my warm fuzzies to the new son-in-law. I bet it does feel good.

WM said...

Thank you Crockett...apparently they are sending secret emails...I couldn't find the reference either.
Dot@9:39...I'm intersted in the cinnamon husband also adds plain cinnamon to his oatmeal. Is there something in the oils?

Jimmy@9:18...nothing is ever really boring here. This is a terrific forum when people digress form the xword...Like I've said incredibly smart bunch of people here...I really believe that there is a lot you can do with controlling your diet for onset type 2 Diabetes and many other ailments. There is, in general, too much processed food in this country. Fresh, natural, and organic when possible is a good way to go. See what your Dr. says. The best way to shop is the perimeter of the store. That is where the Produce Dept, Dairy Dept and Cheese Depts are...the center food aisles are all the high margin processed stuff is...

JD: means I get to go to the "artist's reception" on Friday night. Champagne and chocolates...that's a good thing.

WM said...

Embien...found it, thanks to kazie. That is just terrific!

Crockett1947 said...

@kazie Thank you! I always check the prior day's post before going on to the current day, but ol' embien put that one in there after I checked.

@embien Congratulations to the happy couple!

@wolfmom Congrats on the entry. Champagne and chocolates -- can't go too far wrong there!

Anonymous said...


I'm sorry I never answered your question last night. The cinnamon is supposed to rekindle the ability of fat cells to respond to insulin. It also increases the glucose removal. Cinnamon contains something called MHCP (no idea what that is) that is responsible for this action. Doctors recommend 1 tsp. per day.