Apr 29, 2009

Wednesday April 29, 2009 Doug Peterson

Theme: How Food Processors Work

17A: Shady high roller's advantage: LOADED DICE

28A: Harbors ulterior motives: HAS AN AX TO GRIND

44A: Log holder: FIREPLACE GRATE

58A: Dojo blow: KARATE CHOP

Once again, I am not sure I got the theme right. I cook differently and hardly use our food processor or any other kitchen accessories. Peeler & knife are the only tools I use every day. I peel everything. And I use my knife to dice, slice, chop, mince etc. It's exotic for me to see others use grater for ginger.

I had fun fooling around with this very scrabbly puzzle (3 Z's, 2 X's, 1 J and several K's). Wrote down HAIR for 19A: "Manx cat's lack" (TAIL). What can I say? I am not a cat person and a hairless cat makes sense to me. Also, I wrote down SAID for 21A: "After all?" (LAST) immediately, thinking the sentence "After all is SAID and done". Theoretically I think I am right. If someone finishes last in the race, he is still part of all, not "After all", correct?

Having seen similar "Dictator's assistant' or "Dictation taker" for STENO before, the "Dictator's aid" clue yesterday gave me no trouble and I did not even bother to comment on. It's so fascinating for me to read your experience in yesterday's Comments section. Thanks for sharing.


1A: Betting setting: VEGAS. Rhyming clue. The first word that popped into my mind is CASINO.

6A: Oratory with lots of arm-waving: RANT. "Lots of arm-waving" RANT indeed. I used to like Kramer.

10A: Sloop pole: MAST. Perpendicular to the boom. Only learned a few weeks ago that sloop is a single-masted sailing boat.

14A: "Get __!": Relax: A GRIP

15A: Hamburg's river: ELBE. ELBE originates in Czech and flows northwest across German to the North Sea. Same pronunciation with Napoleon's ELBA.

16A: Award for a soap: EMMY. Oh well, I tried to find EMMY award logo, look at what Google gave to me.

22A: Garden hose feature: NOZZLE. Then later on HOSE as an answer to 55: Stockings. I don't know. I still don't like this dupe, even if they are within Rich Norris's 6-letter limit.

24A: Disney pooch: PLUTO. Great list of Disney dog names. GOOFY has 5 letter too.

26A: Islamabad's land: Abbr.: PAK. Just learned that Islamabad literally means "Abode of Islam". I suppose "bad" is a suffix for "abode"?

27A: Above, in odes: O'ER. Opposite 'neath.

32A: By surprise: ABACK. As in "Taken ABACK"

33A: "That is to say ....": I MEAN. I say this often, since I always have difficulty expressing myself. My oral English is very poor.

34A: Himalayan mystery: YETI. Exactly, it's a mystery. I like this better than "Mountain sighting" clue.

35A: Dark earth pigment: UMBER. Strange, it's rooted in umbra (shade/shadow), same as umbrella.

37A: Programming language with a coffee-cup logo: JAVA. It's still hot.

41A: Ho-hum state: ENNUI

43A: Ear-related: AURAL. Sometimes the answer is OTIC.

48A: It has a charge: ION. Yep, ION is charged particle.

49A: Space shuttle astronaut Jemison: MAE. Got the answer from down fills. Have difficulty remembering her name. Wikipedia says she was the first woman of African ancestry to travel in space when she went into orbit aboard the space shuttle Endeavor on September 12, 1992. What does this sentence mean? I wonder if Spirit is awake at this moment when I am typing.

50A: Seller of TV time, e.g.: AD REP. Mine was AD MAN.

51A: Resealable bag brand: ZIPLOC. Can't live without ZIPLOC. Don't like Glad.

53A: Cheese with an edible rind: BRIE. The cheese is named after the French region Brie. The Dutch cheese Edam is also named after the Edam town in Holland. I love Etam bra/thong. Don't know what/whom the heck it's named for.

62A: Leave the premises: EXIT

63A: "__who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it": Santayana: THOSE. Oh, George Santayana originated this line. It's from his book "The Life of Reason". I did not know that. Sometimes life has no reasons. You just fall in love, blindly. Or as Pascal said: The heart has reasons that reason cannot know.

64A: Florida attraction: KEYS. Have never been to FL. Is Miami part of Florida KEYS?

65A: D.C. Party: DEMS. Holy hot wick! I always thought the abbreviation for the Democratic Party is D or DEM.

66A: Caravan stops: OASES. Singular is oasis. Stop and find yourself some wet dates, so sweet!


1D: Depression between hills: VALE. Oh well, so many choices: VALE, DALE, GLEN, DELL.

2D: Bigheads have big ones: EGOS

3D: Goes for, as straws? GRASPS AT. I like this clue.

5D: Explore caves: SPELUNK. We had SPELUNK & spelunker discussions on the blog last summer.

6D: Team that ended a "curse" in 2004: RED SOX. Remember Curt Schilling's bloody sock? The "curse" refers to the selling of Babe Ruth to the Yankees. The "Curse of the Bambino".

7D: Hit the ground: ALIT. "Hit" is past tense. I was trapped.

8D: Home of "The Office": NBC. Have never watched "The Office".

8D: Fake ID user, often: TEENAGER

10D: Capital of Lorraine: METZ. No idea. Quite close to Germany. No wonder it has a letter Z in the end.

11D: E-tail giant: AMAZON. Have never bought any baseball card from AMAZON.

12D: Beamed: SMILED. When Chinese take photos, we say "qie zi" (eggplant) rather than "cheese".

13D: "Breathing Lessons" Pulitzer winner Anne: TYLER. No idea. Oh, "Breathing Lessons" is a novel. I thought the book is about breathing and meditation. Her face looks familiar. I remember those bangs.

18D: Info to crunch: DATA

23D: Creole vegetable: OKRA. "Fighting OKRA" is a very strange mascot.

25D: More doilylike: LACIER. Are you OK with this clue?

26D: Apple of quince: POME. OK, here is the defintion of POME fruit from dictionary: a fleshy fruit, such as an apple, pear, or quince, having several seed chambers and an outer fleshy part largely derived from the hypanthium. Also called false fruit. Strange, they are real fruit to me. Pomme is French for apple. Pomme de terre is potato.

29D: Face on a fin: ABE. Might be a stumper for those solvers who are not familiar with the American slang five-dollar bill (fin). LAT puzzle appears in more than 700 daily and Sunday papers in the world, including Mexico, Bermuda, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Indian, Japan, Taiwan, etc.

30D: Fibula neighbor: TIBIA. Ouch! Looks painful.

31D: Hurt: INJURE

35D: Emptied one's bags: UNPACKED

36D: Stubborn critter: MULE. And APES (56D: Long-armed critters). Monkeys have long arms too. I think mine are also very long too.

38D: Wyoming tribe members: ARAPAHOS. No idea. But Cheyenne does not fit. What does ARAPAHOS mean in their own language?

39D: Winery container: VAT

42D: Pixar fish: NEMO. Love "Finding NEMO" (Pixar 2003 film).

43D: Go along with: AGREE TO

44D: Minor failing: FOIBLE

45D: Not out-of-bounds, as a ball: IN PLAY

46D: Gem weight units: CARATS. No wobbling between CARATS and KARATS this time.

48D: "The Compleat Angler" author Walton: IZAAK. Is the book very famous? I got this guy from across fills. How am I supposed to know? He died in 1683. Anyone wrote down ISAAC first?

52D: Zoom, for one: LENS

53D: Panama border?: BRIM. Panama hat. Can't fool me.

59D: Dismiss: AXE. Strange to see AX & AXE in one grid.

Answer grid.



Martin said...

AD REP was my downfall: I also wanted AD MAN but I knew that INJURE wasn't INJURA so I changed that to AD MEN which gave me AGMEETO which didn't make sense. It didn't help that ARAPAHOS was an unknown. I also had trouble getting BRIE: I originally wrote EDAM. I also changed INSIDE to IMPLAY when I got ZIPLOC.

Does anybody remember the Disney movie "Zoom"? No? That's why my first instinct when I saw the clue "Zoom, for one" was to write in BOMB.


Jazzbumpa said...

Up early and off soon. Not sure if I'll be able to spend any time here today, or even do the puzzle. I'm judging a science fair (1st and 2nd graders - should be a great time), then have rehearsal tonight.


Argyle said...

Good Morning, C.C. et al.

I think you're right that the theme is about food preparation but can a prosessor do all that? I only have a blender.

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

No, I've never heard of the movie "Zoom". Classic case of "The more you know, the more trouble you have".

What kind of rehearsal?

See this food processor: "slice, mince, chop, grate, grind, puree and knead foods faster than ever".

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

I don't. I save those early Newsday puzzles for my husband to ace. He does not touch Saturday's Stumper though.

Yes, Adriana Lima has a dangling navel ring. It's not a flaw.

St. Andrews is in my dream.

I totally botched my comments yesterday. What I meant is that every other 3 theme answer yesterday is a simple Verb + the + Animal name, and PUT ON THE DOG is the only one with a prepositional verb.

Argyle said...

Most Common Blender/Food Processor Settings


I don't see dice. Anybody have different settings on their prosessor?

Mainiac said...

Good Morning,

Spelling errors sent me online to see red. Izaak went in as Isaac. Doable instead of Foible and Karats instead of Carats. The SW corner was a struggle but a fun puzzle.

You nailed the theme CC.

We'll be practicing Karate Chops tonight!! Tomorrow's going to be a great day!

Have a good one!

Dick said...

Good morning C.C. and all,..A very nice puzzle for me today. I really enjoyed this puzzle as it had just the right amount of difficulty and possible solutions from the fills, if necessary. The only real struggle was the NW corner and it was the last to fall. Once I figured out Vegas for 1A the rest was cake.

Hope you all have a great Wednesday. It is off to the links for me even if I must do it between storms.

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

I just checked our GE Food Processor. It slices, shreds, chops & mixes. No dice.

Thought of you when I filled in KARATE CHOP earlier.

How many clubs do you have in your bag? What kind of driver/putter?

Anon HP,
Thanks for the decoding again. I knew there is an extra E in the bird from Al's earlier post. But then I could not get anywhere.

Barb B,
Great to see you post regularly now. I miss those days when both you and Melissa visited here often.

Martin said...

I just checked our GE Food Processor. It slices, shreds, chops & mixes. No dice.

I googled DICE, GRIND, GRATE and CHOP and I got a link to the Magic Bullet Express.


Mainiac said...

Just had a meeting canceled so I have a couple minutes.

Argyle, Nice blender! That's quite a list of settings.

The only thing I food process or blend are frozen drinks. When I cook I like to chop. My wife says I make things too big so I've gotten quite proficient at mincing, though never small enough for her. Garlic is my favorite. Love having the smell on my fingers the next day!

Work calls..........

lois said...

Good morning CC et al., What a fun puzzle and on a Weds too! The Downs were a lot easier for me than the Acrosses as a whole which was strange to me, but whatever works.

it's interesting to me to see that every corner has its own theme and altogether show the downfall of many a man...esp in 'vegas'. Look: NW = Egos, grasp, grip
NE = Emmy, Anne, smiled and tail followed closely by and more to the point - crossing 'nozzle'
SW = Izaak, Alan, Len who are all 'in play' w/'foible' and who forgot to 'zip' & 'loc'.
SE = 'hose', ...hos,
(t)hose, oases, agree to, and are all combined w/ 'cha'ching, baby!
"Who's your Daddy!"

It's a 'loaded' puzzle about the 'grind' that will light one's 'fire' in Vegas! Who'd a thunk it!

CC, I think your theme choice is perfect. Your link to 'some wet dates' had me thrown for a minute. I was expecting men in swim suits...go figure! I need more Java.

SandbridgeKaren said...

Sliced and diced my way thru this one - no grating or grinding needed. It was easier for me than yesterday's - somehow I just 'saw' the grid and filled quickly - less than one cup of tea.
Enjoyed the Vegas answer - heading there to make my fortune next weekend (will share how that turns out).
Enjoyed space shuttle clue for Mae - nice change.
Yes, CC stress fractures are painful. I am in the final recovery stages of one to my left leg and until we figured out what it was and treated it, it was extremely painful (only when walking on it though). Avoid them at all costs.
Your theme makes sense to me - all cooking prep or food processor terms. I agree that Ax and Axe was interesting in the same puzzle and I enjoyed all the K's and Z's - but that photo when you googled Emmy - my mom would never allowed me to leave the house in that dress.
Lois - interesting spin on the puzzle - the way you think continues to astound me

T. Frank said...

C.C. and Gang,

I liked today's puzzle a lot; also the interview. My only stumble was Vegas, but the perps solved that problem quickly.

Best clue: Panama border

Best link: etam/brathong (wow!)

Your theme sounds good to me.

A good day to all

Dennis said...

Good morning, C.C. and gang - got through this one relatively quickly; didn't know a couple names (Mae Jemison, Izaak Walton) but the perps got them for me. Coincidental seeing the Keys.

Speaking of, we got to Key West only to find that both seaplane companies were out of business. Still had a great time, and Linda, thanks for the info on the RR bridge - I never knew the history. As far as cats at Papa Hemingway's, they obviously enjoy the act of making new cats.

I still have the bug to do a seaplane trip, so we'll try to find something around here. Today's a beach day, and g8rmomx2, the Aruba Beach cafe is a definite stop today. Thanks so much for the recommendations - we're always looking for new places.

SandbridgeKaren, T.Frank, thanks for the kind words about the Marines - they do instill a pride and a sense of brotherhood that lasts forever; witness the number of Marine Corps flags, car decals, etc. vs. other branches. And not to take anything away from the other branches - they're all equally valuable and vital.

Tarrajo, welcome - just from your initial posts, it's obvious that you'll fit well with our eclectic group. Do be a frequent poster.

KQ, yes, because South Beach caters to the European set, I have lots of mammary memories. And Carol, my wife tried it on occasion, but never felt completely comfortable with it.

BarbB, regarding do-rags/Vietnam - when I was there, which was early in the war, we used to tear up t-shirts and wrap them around our heads under the helmet to keep sweat out of our eyes, but this was before someone put a name to them. And I second what C.C. said, it's great seeing you and Melissa Bee on the blog each day.

Lois, what you can do with the crossword words each day is truly a gift - have you always been such a linguist?

Finally (sorry for the long post), thanks for all the good wishes and recommendations - it's been an outstanding vacation thus far. You guys are the best.

Rex Parker said...

AD REP would have killed me a year or two ago. I've now grown used to AD stuff. ADMAN and ADFEE also show up from time to time.


Anonymous said...

Great puzzle for a Wednesday. Ased it without reference but with several erasures.


KQ said...

I liked this puzzle. Just enough challenge without being too difficult. I did it online, and didn't get any across fills on then entire top half of the grid, then started to fill in with the down fills. I had a little trouble with the NE corner. And POME stumped me, not begin good enough at geography to know PAK either. Otherwise I did pretty well.

Nice interview CC. You always do such a good job with those.

Dennis, I though of you immediately when I got KEYS. Hope your having a great time. The cats are fun to see at Hemmingway's place. Especially all those 6 toed ones

Lois, great job on identifying those corners. You are amazing.

The theme sounds about right to me, but I agree that a food processor doesn't dice. The old Veg-O-Matic ad came to mind "It slices, it dices . . ." but of course it doesn't grate or grind. Maybe it is just what we do to vegetables?

I did like all the Z's and X's. I was an idiot and tried to spell NOZZLE with s's instead of Z's. Should have known better by the other clues. Knew TAIL for a Manx cat as my brother used to have one. It wasn't a very pretty cat like Barb's avatar.

Have a great day everyone. I am off to scrapbook, my regular Wednesday activity with the ladies. Husband always thinks I just drink wine all day. Today, that doesn't sound like a bad idea. For now, I need my cup of JAVA.

lois said...

Dennis: linguistics has always been fascinating to me as I am always interested in learning and experiencing the differences btw tongues. I'm glad you're having a good time.

SBKaren: It's a personality flaw for me. Where are you staying in LV?

kazie said...

How about KP duty for a shorter theme title?

Surprisingly, I found this to be fairly easy, hardly any pauses, and those were helped by perps. No cheating needed. I think it was the lack of numerous sport and name references, other than the most well known ones that I seen here before.

That Emmy linked dress is disgusting. Even I would never have wanted to wear it, and I was a nudist in my youth! Only on a certain isolated beach though, and with good friends.

METZ and the whole Alsace-Lorraine area is multi-lingual--they speak French with a German accent and vice versa. The area has been a part of Germany as often and as long throughout history as it has been French. Same with Luxembourg. Supposedly French, but it sounds so gutteral, you'd swear they were really Germans trying out their French. Their language even has its own name: Letzeburgisch.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for the comment on Prepositional Verb. I was not familiar with that concept.
Also, the Keys are small (relatively) islands. Miami is a city on the mainland, but the Keys extend south and west from that location.

Crockett1947 said...

Good morning, everyone!

That Emmy link is unreal! I can't believe that outfit is legal! Good grief!!!

I struggled with MAE as well -- wanted MAY. Never heard of the etam brand. Yes, even though I should have known better, I had ISAAK down first. My theme guess last night was simply Food Prep. I don't know if a processor can grate. Okay, I sit corrected, and for only $380 plus S&H!

@lois You certainly are a cunning linguist.

Have a great Wednesday, all.

Anonymous said...

55 D Stockings I wanted SOCK but this is much better.


KittyB said...

Good morning, C.C. and all!

I'm short on time, so I'll have to visit all the links later today. I LOVED this puzzle! Despite the fact that Doug Peterson dislikes coming up with clues, I thought these were a lot of fun.

Like Martin, ADREP was a problem for me, but it came through the fills. I started with Edam, too, Martin, which didn't work.

Jazzbumpa, be sure to tell us about the science fair!

I own both a food processor and a blender, which I rarely use. Dear Husband gave me a good set of knives, and that seems to be all I need.

Maniac, ZIPLOCK was a big help in getting IZAAK, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten it. Fishing is not my forte.

C.C. and Dick, I tried "track" for 1A, and had to wait for some of the fills to see VEGAS was the answer.

Dennis, it's good to see that you've made it through days of fun, and are still able to follow C.C.'s blog. It was nice to see you post this morning.

KQ, I had to ponder POME, too. It's one of those words ya have to drag out of the deep dark recesses of your mind.


C.C., there are hairless cats, too. I think Cornish Rex are hairless.

Gotta go. Have a good day, all!

Al said...

Morning all. Nice puzzle today. My only gaff was I guessed NYC instead of NBC for the Office, which stumped me on ELYE instead of ELBE. I work in an office like that so I don't watch the show enough to know where it was actually set; it's too close to home to be funny for me. I'm going to buy a red Swingline stapler for my desk like in Office Space. Did you know that before the movie, Swingline didn't even make red staplers, and afterwards that became their largest seller.

Yesterday's cryptics, EVENS was the obvious answer after you saw it, no?

For "Point out dire bird", yes, the E came from compass point like the day before, but keep in mind, it could be N S or W. Also, the word OUT before DIRE is another indicator of scrambling letters:
E (point)
IDER (Outed dire)
EIDER (Bird, we usually see it clued for its down feathers)
No wasted words, all letters accounted for when a word is constructed, not just from a meaning.


1) Fight Back like a new recruit(3)
2) Me aboard an electrically charged particle(3)

You should get the second one fairly easily after today's puzzle(I hope), but the fun is figuring out why it's the right answer.

Linda said...

CC: As is the usual case, mis-spellings drive me to your solve an then I get several "D`oh!" moments.
What about "Salad Prep" as a possible them? (I often grind my carrots and the pepper for the dressings.)

I Like the frequency of "z`s" and "x`s" in the puzzle.

"Ennui" brings back son did a cartoon character called "Skeet" for his school paper. Skeet wore a T-shirt with "Ennui" on it.

All in all, once I corrected mis-spellings (arapahos,yeti (I thought it had two t`s), carats,Mae (and I certainly should have remembered that since I had several posters of her to display during February),ziploc (wanted the final "K"), the rest fell in line...a bit harder than the last two days but still doable.

Kazie: You amaze me. All we retired teachers could probably "tell some tales"...makes me ever so thankful for the Grace and Mercy shown to me!

About up-to-minute slang: As of today, what used to be "the bomb" is now "dope." That may change by this afternoon. It`s strange but "cool" seems to hang around!

Anonymous said...

hairless cats

Crockett1947 said...

@kittyb Whatever do you mean? (wink, wink)

@monkey That's a nice link.

@linda Trying to understand the "latest" slang is like trying to nail Jello to the wall. Your target just keeps moving.

Anonymous said...

Ad rep was the last to go in for me too, with ad man my initial fill. Liked the Panama clue. I was happy to see fewer compound small worded answers today.

Al: Yes, evens jumped out at me immediately yesterday. I was able to confirm it correct by completing the source puzzle. Found that puzzle a lot of fun to do.

On today's cryptic clues. I've already solved both of them, and I understand why they're the correct solutions. As usual, I'll post my answers later this evening if needed. Today's clues must come from a different puzzle than the ones from the past few days.



Sea-She Sheila said...

Good morning, all-I got off on the wrong foot this morning (ouch) by putting "track" for 1A. After Vegas came to me, I was able to complete that corner more easily. Pome also delayed me a bit. All I could think of was pomme which didn't fit. (Fond memories of eating pomme frites with mussels in Brussels--well, actually it was in Leeuven--and drinking Jupiler beer.)

I had Izaac Walton at first, but when I got to 64A and thouht of Dennis in the Keys, I remembered that it was Izaak.

Mainiac, I personally say, "No dice" to food processors as well. I prefer to go at it manually on the chopping block. (Why do I think some of you are getting a totally different mental image from that remark?) I do have a small processor that only chops and grinds--I use it mostly for making pesto. My basil is doing very well in the herb garden right now. Yum.

CC, I think you were right on with the theme. My son the chef would probably call it "Kitchen Prep."

Dennis, I wonder if those out of business aviation spots were the same ones who trained the al quaida perps who flew the planes on 9/11? That couldn't have been good for business. I have fond memories of my older brother (USMC disabled vet) flying me in his Cessna down the Outer Banks. It was a beautiful clear day and you could even see old shipwrecks in the water. I hope you get your flight.

Sandbridge Karen, I hope your leg is all better soon. Are you a runner?

Good puzzle, good morning, all!

Anonymous said...

Greetings C.C. and all. I was amazed that I could do this with only a few corrections (Isaac, ziplok, and amber.) I did it on paper and then went online for confirmations. Whooee.
It was even easier than the dumb Commuter Crossword that the Naples News is still trying out. The problem with Commuter is that the clues are so ennui producing.

The interview with Doug Peterson was, as always, terrific.

Anonymous said...

For a Wednesday puzzle I thought it was easier than Monday. Day number two in a row without nary a g-spot! I thought the duplicity of garden “hose” and then the answer for stockings “hose” is okay as they are really two different items. BTW, I hate wearing hose. I find them uncomfortable and restricting.

My favorite clue today was “betting setting” Vegas. I have never been to Las Vegas. I am not much of a gambler, but I understand there is a lot more to do and see than gamble.

C.C. that dress is indeed disgusting. I think she stole my sheet and ripped it to shreds and wrapped it around herself. Think she had a Brazilian? Ouch.

C.C. I like you own a food processor but it is buried in a cupboard somewhere. I just use my Wusthof knives. I do own a microplane I use for garlic and ginger. In case you didn’t know, keep your ginger root in the freezer. It lasts a long time and is easier to work with.

Dennis, thank you for the warm welcome. I am glad to hear you are enjoying your vacation. Eat too much and drink too much. Oh, and soak up that warm Florida sun.

Lois, you ought to write a book. You are very witty. Crockett, cunning linguist?? That sounds suspiciously close to….

Sea-She Sheila said...

Oops--one more comment. Are we sure that Goofy is a dog? I never thought so. He looks like a more humanoid animal of indeterminate origin. I remember debating this with friends at summer camp during a late-night bull session. (This would have been back in the '60's, before the movie Stand By Me came out.)

JIMBO said...

Hi ya'll,

Wednesday and "Ole Dad" made it through with only one mis-step. I wanted DALE for VALE, but DEGAS did'nt make much sense for 1a. I think I'm getting better so I (aint a fixin) to throw in the towel yet.

At first glance, I thought NO WAY, but filled in a few perps and the rest started falling in place. If I can get a few letters on board, the rest will usually come to me even if I don't know the meaning.

Good to hear from DENNIS. Always enjoy his comments as well as BUCKEYE'S. Heck, I guess I like everybody's.
Vaya con Dios

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, This seems to be a busy week for me. I won't be able to get to the puzzle until later today.

I'll be back after my Japanese Temari class. It's looks like it will be interesting and fun. Has anyone here tried it before?

Barb B said...

I expected to have a hard time today, so I was pleasantly surprised to get through it fairly quickly, except for the MAE/NEMO crossing, and POME/PAK crossing. Just couldn’t shake NEMO out of my brain, and was clueless about the others. I liked the puzzle, and I know some new words now, so it’s all good.

I am strangely drawn to the hairless cats. They look so touchable. Maybe they are less likely to stir up allergic sneezing.

Thank you CC and Dennis for your warm words.

Monday at the library it was reported that the multiple police cars gathered a couple of blocks away were there to bust a couple of tweakers. That’a another form of slang; one I had to have explained to me.

windhover said...

Tarrajo @ 11:34,
But as you know, "close" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Talented practitioners like Crockett and Lois know that "linguistics" is a contact sport. It is here, anyway.
And let me add my welcome to the others. I think you'll like it here.

lois said...

Crockett: LMAO - hilarious! Yeah, and you are one guy who 'fell-a-shade-o'ver the linguistic edge! Too funny! Great job!

Windhover: LOL Tongue twisters are my favorite form of contact sport.

"BTW, I hate wearing hose. I find them uncomfortable and restricting."
According to a Dennis FF a few weeks ago, your feelings toward hose apply also to a lot of women's feelings toward underwear as well. Apparently he's enjoying some of them down at the beach in FL.

Al said...

@anon-HP, yes, a lot of the clues probably came from the same puzzle you found. So, I have a couple of other answers from that one, which are unsatisfying to me. I know they are correct, but again, there's an extra letter, like the "S" from SLATES that isn't really clear to me why to use it.

Small ache to land(5) is definitely: Spain
Ache = pain
land (country) = Spain
So the initial "S" came from the first letter of "Small"? If so, how did they indicate that in the clue? Perhaps "to" is a direction, so S for south, but that seems like a reach.

Same with this one:
New Silver Horse(3) is NAG
N (the first letter of "New"?)
Ag = chemical symbol for Silver
There's nothing there to indicate a direction N (north), so the problem becomes how to recognize those types of clues.

I'm pretty sure of this one though:
Woman takes it to be important (5)
Val (woman's name), takes the word "it" to become VITAL.
Kind of one of those "aha" moments to see the answer first, then reconcile it with the clue wording later.

Buckeye said...

Guday, fellow crosswordeseieologists. (See Fred). Easy today. I, as KQ,
started out "nossle" but quickly changed that goof and had "adman" but "Arapahos" and "agreeto" got that handled.

Dennis: As I stated a while back: "No matter how often cats fight, there never seems to be a shortage of kittens". Have fun in the Keys. I haven't been to Key West in years. (I met Tennessee Williams there).

Kazie: I wish I had been one of your "good friends" back when.

Went to check my blender for the settings. Mine has "On", "Off", and "Mangle". It's not electric. It has a crank handle.

c.c., I carry 22 clubs in my bag. The legal limit is 14, but it's not my fault those "knuckleheads" can only hit 14 different clubs. I use a persimmon headed Driver (MacGregor - Jack Nicklaus) and a hickory shafted, oak headed mallot "Jackie Burke" putter. Nothing but the best and latest equipment.

I probably won't post again 'til Monday 'cuse we got them "brain busters" cummin' up the next three days. All those Proper Nouns will drive me 'round the bend. I can never remember who the cinematographer was in "The award winning movie 'La Mon Venus'". I think it was Cary Mysack, but I'm not sure.

Things are back to normal here at GBRV. Nurse Ratchet just informed me it's time for me to do my "work-out and shower." I do them at the same time. I call it my "Clean and Jerk".

I must be off

Elissa said...

VEGAS didn't come to mind right away so I filled in DALE for 1D. Then I filled in the rest of the NW corner and never looked back at 1A until I got to the end and did get the on-line signal the puzzle was complete. I went back to look for my mistake and saw it immediately. It was my only error. DOH!

(I did the second puzzle in the SF Chronicle yesterday on the plane and the crossynergy puzzle in the Washington Post this morning without any help. OMG, I might really be improving at this solving stuff!!!!!)

I once stayed at a hotel called The Compleat Angler, a fishing 'resort' establishment on the Thames at Marlowe, not far outside of London. Beautiful and historic sight.

Except for a bit of rain, the weather in DC is perfect - not too hot, not too cold. Great for walking around and seeing the sights. Time to get back out there.

Jeanne said...

Hello all,
I must thank Buckeye for a good laugh-needed it after spending several hours cleaning. Your mind is a wonderful thing--don't let Nurse Ratchet mess with it. (your mind that is).

@tarrajo, welcome and enjoy the blog. Also, stop by the Venetian hotel on your trip to Vegas and eat in anyone of the restaurants in their St. Mark's Square. For a short time you will feel as if you are really in Venice. As most things in Vegas are on the tacky side, this place is a cut above the rest.

The puzzle was easy today and actually did it online at 3 a.m. Yes, it was a bad night of sleep. Did catch a few more hours after that. Looking forward to Thursday's puzzle as that is my favorite day. Have a good day all.

Lemonade714 said...


1) Fight Back like a new recruit(3)
RAW. WAR leads to RAW.

2) Me aboard an electrically charged particle(3) ION. ON I leads to ION.

POME, is derived from the French Pomme.

Really enjoy the interviews, as well s the continued participation of Doug, Rex, Fred et al.

The ARAPAHO are among the most interesting of our native american tribes.

WM said...

Terrific puzzle, but I started by filling in the whole Eastern side first, it was easier and just seemed to work better that way. Actually made steady progress and the theme became obvious quickly...I thank C.C. for that knowledge.

I thought of it as a food prep puzzle and, like others, I have a blender, and a large and small food processor which seldom get used...I love the rhythm of hand chopping most everything and then I only have a knife to wash. I did stop and stare at 53A briefly because there are probably well over 300-500+ cheeses with edible rinds and then realized with just 4 spaces the most obvious answer was BRIE...The raw milk Bries in France are fabulous...much more flavor than what we get here...Brie and Baguette, yum.

C.C. St. Andrews is a beautiful city and wonderful to walk around...we got to stay at that beautiful big hotel that sits facing the 1st and 18th holes. The tough part is, that without paying a bundle of money to guarantee a tee time, you have to go through a daily lottery. On the very day we were scheduled to leave the guys got their morning tee we( all the ladies) watched them tee off and then headed down the east coast to York where we met up with them in the evening to hear their harrowing tales of conquering the course.

Lois...Bingo give a whole new meaning to finding "themes" hat is off to you...Crockett aussi. glad you are having a great time, and nice of you to check in with updates.;o)

CA...thanks for the link to the Temari Balls...interested in hearing about what you thought about the class.

Buckeye...I so look forward to your posts.

Kazie, as always, I always learn new things from you...thanks.

Just an odd thing...if you type in Star Tribune Crossword Corner on Google, then hit images...every single photo attachement that C.C. has ever posted shows up...veddy interesting!

I have a lot to get accomplished today...Ciao for Niao.

Anonymous said...

Windhover, thanks for the warm welcome. I guess I didn’t realize linguistics were a contact sport. The “other” close thing. Yes.

Lois, I thought Dennis was enjoying the absence of another piece of lingerie.

Al, I am not sure how the cryptic clues you have been linking are supposed to work. I think I got the second one today.

Jeanne, if I ever get to Las Vegas I will definitely stop by the Venetian hotel and enjoy a repast at one of the restaurants in St. Marks Square. Having never been to Venice either I won’t even know the difference. I need to travel more!

Jazzbumpa said...

I was up earlier than needed, and had time to finish the puzzle before I left. Brain was not fully engaged, though. I had "Dale" for "Vale," which gave me "Degas" for "Vegas." "Dale" is a legit answer. So is "Degas," for that matter, but to a totally different question. Oh, well.

For some reason I had "sailed" for 12d (?) This gave me "Emay" for 16A, but I thought, "Who knows from soaps?" Youngest granddaughter is Emily and we call her Emmy. She just turned 3.

Kitty -
Science fair was great. Kids were smart, quite mature, and so cute I could hardly stand it. I had one 1st-grader. As we were walking to her display, I asked if she was excited. "More nervous, than excited, actually," she said. We stopped and took a couple of deep breaths together. Some of the kids will talk your ear off. Others, you have to pry out every word. It was a great time. And they fed us well.

C.C -
Jazz band on Monday, Had a concert this week and played an original song I wrote and arranged. That was a kick! Next up is Jazz Fest in July. Symphony rehearsals on Wed. - concert on the 15th, and that will be all for Symphony until fall. From late June through July, it's wind ensemble concerts in the park - rehearsal Tuesday, performance Thursday. I'm just an amateur musician, but I found that a mediocre trombonist can get a lot of gigs, if he's willing to play for free.


kazie said...

Small ache to land(5) is definitely: SpainIs the "s" like the clothing labels indicating "small"?

Buckeye and Linda,
It was a VERY small group of friends, a married couple in their 50's when I was in my second year of teaching. They introduced me to the idea over a bottle of good vodka. They had been going there for years, and the only ones who ever went there were other nudists and fishermen, and the fishermen didn't wear much either. It was so hard to get to, no real road, just wheel tracks either side of a ditch really. When a real road was built in there, they resorted to building their own pool because then "their" beach had been discovered by too many others. The pool was private, behind their house and hidden from neighbors across the valley by their orange orchard.

Anonymous said...

Al: Spain bugged me a bit as an answer to that cryptic clue as well. My thought was that the to was the main indication of the additional letter, like you. But I didn't take it as meaning a compass direction as much as a suggestion that something must be done to the first word to change it into the second. Kind of like those variety puzzle magazine word games that give you two words, and then they ask how to change one into the other while creating intermediate words along the way.

Same thinking on Nag.

Still, I believe you are onto something with the capitalized first letters as another clue to the answers. I see another possibility than your compass direction idea. "S" also works as an abbreviation for Small (think in terms of clothing sizes), and from my experience, "N" is often used (although typically in parentheses) as an abbreviation for New in the world of construction drawings.

I liked the "VITAL" answer. Like you, the answer came to me first, thanks to some cross fill work, but then I had to reconcile it with the clue.

Among my favorites were:

Six articles about birds (5)
Georgia under a ruler (3)
Fashionable team is locked up (6)
Fable of a foot (6)

Kazie: Didn't see your post until just now, but I see you have suggested "S" standing for "small" as well.

Lemonade: has the right cryptic clue answers today. Just clarifying further that on ion, that it is I + On / Ion, as the clue wording states, Me + aboard / charged particle.



embien said...

8:04 today.. I loved this puzzle from top to bottom, even though it might have been on the easy side.

@c.c.: Anyone wrote down ISAAC first?Embien raises his hand (with no crosses). I knew the name, just not the correct spelling until the crosses pointed the way.

Mainiac said...

Sea-She-Sheila, I'll have a great new vision as I chop veggies for the salad tonight. Hope I don't cut myself!!

Ass (OOPS) to the Emmy dress, thank you CC and whoever that was who had the daring to wear it! Regardless of your thoughts on the taste or lack there of concerning the design, someone got paid darn good money to come up with it!

Buckeye, as always, you rock!!

Have a great evening all.

SandbridgeKaren said...

Lois - doesn't sound like a flaw at all. Staying at Bellagio - we always do. Got a suite for like nothing; apparently going to Vegas over Mother's Day isn't terribly popular. Go figure!! And thanks for your discretion on Crockett1947's comment - you could have taken that a lot of places. Gotta love those 'tongue twisters'. Still LOL.

Tarajo - didn't welcome you yesterday but you've already picked up the 'lingo' - sound like an old hand already.

Sea-she-sheila - well I was trying to be a runner which is how I got the fracture. Have to rethink that program but I was getting to really enjoy it - guess I need to admit these bones are older than dirt. Back to beach walking - not a great hardship though now that the weather's improved considerably.

xchefwalt said...

Here is a commerical kitchen food processor that retails for about $5,000

robo coupeand yes, it dices

A.R.E. said...


Hope you are having a good day. I am chiming in a little late as I am traveling. Did the puzzle on-line and have an issue with 10A. There are certainly poles to use aboard a sailing vessel, but I would never refer to the Mast as one. It is really a 'Spar'. I think a better clue would have been 'Schooners Spar'.

They are calling my flight now, so have a good rest of the week and weekend.


Argyle said...

Can a prossesor dice?

Anonymous said...

Sandbridgekaren, I was a long time lurker. That’s how I know the “lingo.” The only ones I know though are DF, g-spot, and perps. Are there more? Also, very pretty picture. I love your red hair!

Xchefwalt…$5000.00?? I’ll stick with my Wusthofs.

Buckeye you are a funny guy. I’d like to sit down and consume a few duff beers with you. I’ll bet there are no end to your stories.

Kazie, you would surely have to be comfortable in your own skin to be a nudist. Good for you!

Dennis said...

Back for a shower and change of clothes.

Sea-She Sheila, I don't think either of the air service companies you're talking about were in the Keys - and both of the places that went out of business were primarily seaplane rentals.
Is your brother still with us?

Tarrajo, you've been following this blog for quite some time, haven't you? You're certainly up to speed with this group.

BarbB, that's really funny - I'm also strangely drawn to hairless 'cats'...

carol said...

Hi all, great puzzle, not a problem.
I too thought 53D clue (Panama border)was the best one.

C.C. you mentioned wet dates, and after I quit laughing at what Lois said, I couldn't help thinking WAY back to the Dromedary Dates that were in stores then. We must have a trade restriction on them because they haven't been in stores here for at least 40 years. They were the BEST! They were imported from some middle east country..don't even know if that was on the package. Does anyone else remember them? The box was white cardboard wrapped in orange cellophane (yes, the old crispy cellophane :))

Lois - you da' bomb!!! And what Crockett was referring to as well.;)

SSSheila, you be careful of splinters on that cutting board! LOL

Crockett, you clever devil.

Buckeye, LOL your remarks always bring more than a smile and as Dennis once said, it's better not to be drinking anything when reading your posts.

Clear Ayes, Temari looks fascinating and beautiful. Let us know what you think of the class.

Buckeye said...

What is wrong with you people? I thought Emmy's dress was beautiful. It had very relaxed, flowing lines, a pleasing hue and plenty of coverage. So much better than the bikini I saw last week on "", which consisted of two band-aids and a cork.

@BarbB. I like both hairless and hairy cats. They both "look so touchable".

@Jeanie. You said "...after spending several hours cleaning". You have half of my work-out down pat.

@Clearayes. I did Japanese Temari Balls when I was just a wee lad. I would hold a skein of yarn between my hands while mommy rolled it into a ball. When she was done and not looking, I would sneak it into the kitchen and lather it up with Elmer's Glue and hide it in the basement for a couple of days. After that, I would take it outside and "bop" the little snots I didn't like. If you hit them just right, you could knock them off their tiny feet, retrieve the ball, and hunt up another victim. I just didn't know they were called Temari Balls.


Warren said...

Hi C.C. & gang,

Here you go C.C a picture of a Daytime Emmymy trick to find it was to include .jpg in the search.

It was a walk in the park puzzle today, no need to use Google help.

BTW, C.C. I forgot to mention that during 'special' days Google changes its graphic and to find out why you just need to click on the graphic.


Clear Ayes said...

I finally finished today's puzzle. I sailed through pretty well unscathed. POME was my only corrected fill. I had PIES to start with. My father used to sing a song with the name IZAAK Walton in it, so that one was easy.

I'm glad I'll have more time for tomorrow's puzzle. Thursday is when it starts to apply uncomfortable pressure to my memory banks. (By Saturday, my memory bank is sending out Insufficient Funds notices.)

Tarrajo, "I understand there is a lot more to do and see than gamble." Has somebody been blabbing? I thought that 'What Happens In Vegas Stays In Vegas". :o)

WM & Carol, The temari ball class was fun. My favorite part was learning that, although it is spelled T-A-M-E-R-I, it pronounced ta-maud-ee. That will go over well at parties where I can impress my more pretentious acquaintances. The beginners' class project is pretty easy, but will look complicated when it is finished. That's what I always look for in a craft! I still have an hour or two to complete it. The instructor has been making temari balls for over 30 years. She has a whole wall with shelves that are filled with the beautiful temaris. There was even one that had been lacquered with Elmer's Glue. (Her name is Susan. Sound familiar, Buckeye?)

RichShif said...

Hi C.C. and all,

I guess I goofed....this is what I was thinking of for wet dates I must have missed the point.

Bill said...

Hi Everybody,Thought I'd check in and see if all was well and apparently it is. Mon, Tue and Wed bing, bang, boom; done,done and done!
More like today, please. Just the right difficulty for my failing brain. I, too, wanted HAIR for 19a but MEHZ and TYRER meant nothing. since 13a is a proper name I guess it could have been TYRER. But it all finally sorted itself out.
Haven't been here much. Had a contractor here since Fri AM peeling old and putting new siding on the house.Finished today and what a difference. Now my taxes will probably skyrocket!!!
CY'all Later

xchefwalt said...

@ tarrajo: I love my wustohfs as well, but when you've got to dice potatoes for breakfast to serve 1,000- the robo coupe does just fine...

KQ said...

I was only in Vegas once when we were at the grand opening of the Stratosphere tower. My husband was one of the attorney's on the original project. Lots of black tie affairs related to that one. Someone said how much he liked Vegas because it was such a family oriented place. When we gave him a strange look, he commented "All those fathers and their daughters".

Warren, interesting note about Google. Usually the change is for an obvious reason, such as a holiday. Why was it in morse code the other day?

Terrajo, you have the lingo down so well. You definitely fit into this blog atmosphere and are much wittier than I.

Lois, cannot stand wearing hose either. However, when a skirt or dress is necessary, Minnesota winters require them. Otherwise our legs freeze. I have lots of dress pants.

Crockett1947 said...

@kq April 27 is the birth date for Mr. Samuel F.B. Morse, the inventor of the Morse code.

lois said...

KQ: I understand about the cold weather and bare naked legs. Not a good match. I get 'hosed up' on days like that too, but then again, I get 'hosed up' on days not like that as well. Guess it depends on the definition.

Rich: That's what I was thinkin' except I'm lookin' at the wet'er' and not the wet'ee'.

Tarrajo: you're right. I'm sure Dennis was enjoying the freedom of floppin' on that beach. What a morel guy!

SBKaren: the Belagio is beautiful. May try that in Aug.

Gotta run. Time to burn the candle at the other end. Enjoy your night.

KittyB said...

Jazzbumpa, your morning as a judge sounds like it was a success. First and second graders can be a lot of fun.

I've been away from this blog for a while, and wasn't here when you joined. I didn't realize that you play, as well as enjoy jazz. In another life I was a band director, and I really regret that I can no longer play. There's nothing quite like playing with a top-notch band.

xchefwalt, I hope I never have to cook for 1,000! I'm happy with my Wusthofs, and since the most we tend to have here for holidays is 40-45, I think I can get away without making the acquaintance of a robot coupe.

Buckeye....was Ratchet coming after you for swiping her beer stash?? Keep up the good work.

Clear Ayes, the Temari look really complex. I can't imagine the technique used that could produce something that looks like that in a few hours. I hope you enjoyed the class.

tobylee said...

So glad that you are having a good vacation. Glad you are still checking in with us. I have noticed that those who are in the marines (they are never ex I am told) have a can do attitude about their lives. I have a son in law who is a gem. They are going through difficult financial times and with illness in the family, but he sets the positive tone. My daughter knows she is blessed to have him, and I am grateful for her blessing.
Clear Ayes, I have never seen those Temari before. What a wonderful craft and so detailed. I hope you will share the results when you are done.
I was also enjoying your art. The green shutters are charming. I like the colors and the subject matter. I get teased about the pictures I take on vacation. Cobblestone designs, stacked rock walls with ferns growing out, 200 year old hinges. They look great when they come by on my screen saver! :o) It really helps me remember the whole feeling of my experience.

Dromedary Dates! My Mom used to make the best Date Cream Pie with toasted sesame seed pie crust. I can remember helping her cut the dates with a kitchen shears. I wonder what happened to them. They were the best.


Auntie Naomi said...

Good Evening C.C. and Co.,

"If someone finishes last in the race, he is still part of all, not "After all", correct?"
Yes, technically you are correct. It's usage in this case means after all of the rest of them.

I thought you meant this Kramer. He rants a lot, too.

"But I wuv you!" is a cutesy way of saying, "But I love you." Like you might say to your dog, child or sweetie pie (if the latter, hopefully not within earshot of anyone else).

"LACIER. Are you OK with this clue?" Sure.

According to this site, "Arapaho originates in the Pawnee term tirapihu, meaning 'he buys or trades,' as the Arapaho were the trading tribe in the Great Plains region."

Yes, the Compleat Angler is quite famous. In addition to the one Elissa mentioned, there was also another famous Compleat Angler hotel. It was on the island of Bimini in the Bahamas and was, no doubt, named after the book. It was most famous for being a hangout of Ernest Hemingway.

Can it be true that, other than Buckeye, the gay guy is the only one who does not find that Emmy dress disgusting? I say we show more nudity on TV and less violence.

That is so cool that you met Tennessee Williams!

I think this is what you wanted to link to: The RC2 Dice.

RichShif said...


I didn't notice a wetter. Are you sure?!??

Anonymous said...

Clearayes, no, I have never been to Las Vegas but have been lured there by friends many times. My friends ALWAYS fill me in on what I miss. It's usually a lot.

Xchefwalt, a 1,000 people? Where the heck did you cook? Were you the head chef? If so, why wouldn't your Sous Chef do the dirty work? I am still sticking to my Wusthofs.

KQ, you never answered me on the golf question from yesterday or am I getting you guys all confused? I can't hold a candle to Lois' wit.

Lois, I guess I have missed something in translations here...what does "morel" guy mean?

Dennis, I have been reading this blog for the last two to three months.

SandbridgeKaren said...

tarrajo - glad you stopped lurking. I did that for a long time B4 I decided to post - being part of the blog is lots more fun than lurking so please stay.

KQ - LOL at the fathers and daughters comment. My s.o. and I comment on that frequently when we're in Vegas (or elsewhere but it seems to happen much more there than other places we've been). 'How kind of those dads to take their daughters to such nice places' - although we've seen some lately that look more like granddad and granddaugher. You pretty much see it all in Vegas so hope you go again one day soon.

Lemonade714 said...


As a lurker, I am surprised you missed our fearless leader's favorite DF concept, the manly Morel.

Wetter was not as wet as the wettee.

PMT, thanks for the Arapaho link.
damn, it is bedtime