Jul 28, 2011

Thursday July 28, 2011 John Dunn

Theme: IN THE MIDDLE (17D. Like this answer's position, and what can follow the starts of 16-, 24/51-, 38-, 60- and 69/1-Across) - IN THE MIDDLE can follow all the below green-highlighted words.

1A. See 69-Across : AROUND. And 69A. With 1-Across, spend time frivolously : MONKEY. Monkey in the middle is a children's game a la Wiki. Not familiar to me.

16A. Breakfast option : SOFT-BOILED EGGS. Soft in the middle.

24A. With 51-Across, Presley hit with "glue" in the lyrics : STUCK. And 51A. See 24-Across : ON YOU. Stuck in the middle.

38A. "A Clockwork Orange" star : MALCOLM MCDOWELL. "Malcolm in the Middle".

60A. End the chat room suspense, in a way : MEET FACE TO FACE. Meet in the middle.

C.C. here. Are you missing Al? I am.

The unifier IN THE MIDDLE is easily placed in the very heart of the grid. But quite a feat to cross it with the other three long theme entries. 14's are always a challenge and you don't see them on Row 3/13 often, same with 12's and 13's.

I've yet to become a fan of split theme entries. I'm OK with 1A Across and the last Across entries to bookend the grid, even with the reverse order. But the 24/51 style split distracts me.


7. Catch-22 : PARADOX. Nice scrambly entry.

14. Retro headgear : BEANIE

15. Quintessence : EPITOME

18. Mountain Dew producer, informally : PEPSI. "For those who think young".

19. Slight winning margin : NOSE. By a nose.

20. Not divided : ONE

21. Easy melodies : LILTS

29. Mediterranean smoker : ETNA. The volcano.

31. "__ Coy Mistress": Andrew Marvell poem : TO HIS. I'll let Clear Ayes comment.

33. Uffizi display : ARTE

34. "Big Love" actress Sevigny : CHLOE. Here she is. I like the name Chloe.

36. Asylum seeker : EMIGRE. Some lie to get accepted. Ex-IMF chief accuser, for example.

42. Gushed on stage : EMOTED

43. Massey of "Rosalie" : ILONA. She does resemble Dietrich, no?

44. Talk with one's hands : SIGN

45. Like days of yore : OLDEN

47. "Great shot!" : NICE

53. Professional pitcher? : AD MAN. One who pitches stuff. We've seen similar clue before.

55. Edit out : CUT

56. Comedian Hartman : PHIL

58. Excludes : OMITS

66. Chaplin's tramp, e.g. : PERSONA

67. Boorish sorts : CHURLS. And 3D. Dumbbells : OAFS

68. Non-specific : GENERAL


1. Out of the picture : ABSENT

2. Start up after a fire, say : REOPEN. Like a nightclub. I suppose.

4. Before : UNTIL

5. Tip for a writer? : NIB. "Writer" here refers to pen, correct? It writes.

6. __ gratiam habeamus: Kentucky's Latin state motto : DEO. "Let us be grateful". Unknown to me.

7. Boehner's predecessor : PELOSI (Nancy). Man, they often make me speechless, both.

8. Plays Simon says with : APES

9. Harley outings : RIDES. Here is Harley model Marisa Miller, who has the best abs in the world.

10. Got fed up? : ATE. Awesome clue.

11. Follow : DOG. Verb.

12. Texting exclamation : OMG

13. Cancels (out) : X'ES

18. Macabre master : POE. True.

22. Tepid response to "How's this?" : IT'LL DO

23. Tower (over) : LOOM

25. Home of Nationals pitcher Chien-Ming Wang : TAIWAN. He was with the Yankees for a few years.

26. Try to convince : URGE

27. PC key : CTRL

28. Nautical spine : KEEL

30. Passbook ID : ACCT NO. Wow, did not come to me readily.

32. Sonoran Desert resort city : SEDONA

35. Plot device? : HOE. Oh, garden plot.

37. Work wk. start : MON

38. Prefix with -zoic : MESO

39. "The Last King of Scotland" tyrant : AMIN

40. Lethargic : LOGY. Here it comes again.

41. Skelton persona Kadiddlehopper : CLEM

46. Not of the cloth : LAICAL. We see LAIC more often.

48. Standoffish one : ICICLE

49. Like Care Bears : CUTESY

50. "Avatar" extras : ETs

52. Ready and willing to do : UP FOR

54. Like a stick-in-the-mud : NO FUN. Nice answer.

57. '80s tennis great Mandlikova : HANA. Faintly rings a bell.

59. New Testament figure : MARK

60. Sticker stat : MPG

61. Shoe spec : EEE. Somehow I feel it's a cop-out to put SSS in the grid, but not EEE. Weird.

62. Coastal raptor : ERN

63. Prufrock poet's monogram : TSE (T.S. Eliot)

64. Cable sta. for vintage films : TCM

65. "Gotcha!" : OHO

Answer grid.

And yes, yesterday's mystery boy is Red State Democrat, Matt in real life. The photo was cropped due to my sensitivity towards a recent event. Maybe he will link the full photo in his own website someday.



Argyle said...

Good Morning,

MONKEY IN THE MIDDLE is also known as KEEP-AWAY and isn't so much a game as bullying. A group takes an item from the victim and toss it back and forth, just out of reach of the victim. Great sport.

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

Short on time again. Nice puzzle, but the SE corner nearly killed me. Maybe it's because I had CUDDLY instead of CUTESY for 49D, but even after fixing that mistake it took way to long to get CHURLS, MARK (wanted MARY) and MONKEY. Also had AMC instead of TCM at 64D, which didn't help...

Hahtoolah said...

Good Morning, c.C. and friends. Good to see you here again, C.C. I'm running late, so will comment later.

QOD: Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence. ~ George Washington

Dick said...

Good morning CC and all, the puzzle was a real slog for me today. I finally managed to complete it, but needed a couple of trips to see Mr. G. The NE was a mess for a while as I had essence for epitome which made the entire down answers look strange. I did not know Massey of “Rosalie” and when I Googled it I misspelled Rosalie, this got me to a porn site.

I wanted AMC in lieu of TCM, ono for oho and I also wanted Magi as soon as I had omits so that area was screwed up for a while. Finally from somewhere in my brain recesses I remembered churls which cleared up that area. As I said it was a mess in that corner also.

I liked the puzzle as I thought it was well constructed and a challange.

Hop you have a great Thursday.

Lemonade714 said...

Welcome back to mid-week C.C.

I was impressed by the intricacy, creativity and massive themeage. The future of puzzledom is safe.

I also like silliness of LAICAL and ICICLE next to each other.

I guess brevity is really the soul of wit here today, and mu bell is ringing Mr. John Dunn, but not tolling.

Hereux jeudi.

Tinbeni said...

C.C. Wonderful write-up!!!

When I saw the clue for 1-A, "See 69-Across," I almost put the puzzle down.
Not a fan of these types of clues.

Never really got on Dunn's wave-lenght.

Fave was NO-FUN ... my solving experience.

creature said...

Good Morning CC and all,

Nice write-up, CC.

Had a bit of a slow down in SE. Similar to Barry. I looked at DOG and let it go, but I think its wrong.
Yes, please feel free to dive in; I couldn’t find justification for it.

Theme was definitely good. Never heard of MONKEY IN THE MIDDLE, but Argyle’s explanation took care of that. Hate bullying of any kind and the mental picture is irritating.
Thanks , John, for the puzzle.

Have a nice day everyone.

Argyle said...

Monkey in the middle is a legitimate drill in basketball and soccer but on the playground, it often is grabbing, say a kid's hat, and not letting them get it back.

windhover said...

Good morning, C. C. et al,
First the good news. Effective last week, I am once again getting the puzzles. The Irish' IT guy, you will recall, had ((stupidly)) told her to stop downloading the puzzle from the LAT website because of suspected virus problems. Someone here (thanks) recently mentioned the Chicago Tribune site. I Email her that link, she prints from the Email, I get the puzzle in the evening, work it next morning. So I'm only one day behind. Not bad, considering that in the rest of my life I'm approximately a century behind the times.
Now for today's puzzle, specifically 6D:
Like others, I learn from the puzzles, and even more from the work of our fine lineup of bloggers. The only Ky. state motto I was aware of was "United we stand, divided we fall"
It turns out that our Latin motto was only adopted in 2002, and the phrase was lifted from the preamble to our Constitution, circa 1792. Of the motivations of our legislature in cobbling this very noble phrase into law, the less I say, the better.
But it is good to be puzzling again.

Anonymous said...

Monkey in the Middle on the streets of Detroit wasn't about bullying. Two people were the "catchers" and the monkey tried to interfere with the catchers receiving the ball. If the monkey got the ball away from the catchers the one who threw the errant ball had to become the monkey until he/she got the ball away. Keep away was a team sport with even sides if more than three were playing...self-explanatory. Pass the ball to a teammate!

Yellowrocks said...

I am familiar with bullies taking an item from the victim and throwing it back and forth so it is impossible to retrieve. Nasty! But we never called that nastiness Monkey in the Middle. Monkey in the Middle is an oganized game. The thrower(s) stand at a prescribed distance from the person in the middle and throw a ball back and forth. They may only throw from their base line. "It", the person in the middle, is frequently able to snatch the ball and trade places with the one who threw it. Other times we played that if the intended recipient of the throw didn't catch it, he had to replace the person who was "It." It is fun. There are many variations.

Yellowrocks said...

Dog can be used as a verb meaning to follow or track like a dog.

HeartRx said...

Good Morning C.C. et al.

Nice to see you here on a Thursday, C.C. I agree with you about the theme entries - IN THE MIDDLE was nicely placed, and building other entries that could end with it was a nice idea.

But I think the execution suffered because of the split clues for the theme entries. Starting the first theme entry with "See 69A" seemed to detract from the overall enjoyment of the puzzle. Although, there was some fun fill like...ummm...hmm...I can't seem to remember anything that really made me chuckle.

Oh well, off to the gardens to do some HOEing!

Unknown said...

Good Morning All1
I also had a trip or two in the southeast corner. Thinking Old Testament instead of New Testament figure, I couldn't put Mark in the spot, duh, hand me the V-8! After realizing my goof the rest fell into place.
I don't care for soft-boiled eggs, nor Pepsi (prefer Coke), never wore a beanie and never won anything by a nose.
"Stuck on You" (got that one right away) is one of my favorite Elvis tunes, especially since it is one of the early Elvis vs. the Las Vegas one. Ah, the Uffizi, wow what a place! I'd love to visit there again before I die.
Happy Thursday Everyone!

creature said...

Yellowrocks, I'm that far with its usage today. Please cite an entry or something as a reference. Thanks.

I personally didn't mind the split clues tied into the theme. Just a little more work and more interesting.

kazie said...

My best Thursday effort for some time. I don't like the splits either, but had no trouble with them today after a few perps helped. I found the NW to be slowest, because I toyed with FEDORA for BEANIE before filling anything in, so only went back to it after getting SOFT BOILED to go with EGGS. I'd thought of over easy, sunny side, scrambled, but none of those fit. I really had no trouble with the SE other than wanting RUB for CUT. Many unknown names, but they all perped out.

I think the Latin motto should mean "May we have God's favor" or "may we be thankful to God".

Unknown said...

I forget to add my favorite flea-killing Rx. We had a flea problem many years ago and since our youngest son inherited my allergies, the pest control company flea-bombed our house which required that we vacate it for 12 hours. The next time that I saw a flea, I did what my vet suggested; sprinlking Borax all over everything and waiting several days to suck it up with the vacuum. It worked! Of course, we had to treat the dogs before the Borax treatment. We did use Advantage or Frontline, but Adams flea spray was also effective. Brewers' yeast or garlic added to the dog's food can be used, although check with your vet before doing that. I was a pet-sitter for 25 years and learned a lot from my clients!
I hope that this helps.

Yellowrocks said...

Dog | Define Dog at
–verb (used with object) 19. to follow or track like a dog, especially with ... the Gk. word for "danger," kindynas, which appears to be "play the dog."

From Free Online Dictionary
tr.v. dogged, dog·ging, dogs
1. To track or trail persistently: "A stranger then is still dogging us" (Arthur Conan Doyle).

Grumpy 1 said...

Good morning and happy Thursday, all. Thanks for your write up, C.C.

For some reason, this one seemed rather easy. I did want cuddly and Mary before CUTSEY and MARK emerged, but CHURLS came easily as did the various theme entries.

We beat LILTS to death already this week, but it's back again. LOGY would probably have been a "huh?" except for a discussion here in the corner a few months ago.

My cardiologist just added a second doctor to his practice. Now I have a PARADOX.

Yeah, puns like that leave me with a knot in 'EPITOME stomach.

Husker Gary said...

Another rain shower this morning is keeping me indoors (“and they say we’ll have some fun if it stops raining”). This puzzle and C.C.’s narrative were a pleasant distraction. A fun theme beautifully constructed!

-Catch-22 here has been to retain enough water in upstream dams to keep barge traffic going through late summer but not so much that it floods the Missouri Basin. Didn’t work this year and Army Corps has got some ‘splainin’ to do.
-I agree with C.C.’s split entry comment
-I probably have my college BEANIE around here somewhere
-We seem to be having LILT mania
-No clue on CHLOE or ILONA but gettable
-Phil was great on SNL esp. as Sinatra
-Could a bird use his NEB for a NIB?
-OMG, LOL at 12D (LOL was part of latest Curb Your Enthusiasm episode – my new favorite show)!
-Loved Plot Device and have used many!
-Isn’t LAICAL making an adjective out of the adjective LAIC?

Spitzboov said...

Good morning all. Thanks for the comments, C.C.

I'm still scratching myself from all the talk about itching and flea treatment yesterday.

Pretty much solved it top to bottom. SE was last and cranky at first. But after trying CUTESY and guessing ICICLE, it came home. CHURLS seemed OK here. Many guesses throughout, but they worked today. No whiteout needed. I thought the cluing for HOE and ATE were quite clever.

Have a great day.

Avg Joe said...

I have to go to the "meh" camp with this one. Kinda cute, but way too ambitious to be really enjoyable. The split clues always rub me wrong, and starting out with one is just nasty.

Gary, The Corp is really taking a bum rap with the water releases, IMO. Think about this: at the current release rate of 160,000 cf per second, Lewis and Clark is going through approximately one complete water change per day. Sure the lakes further upstream are quite a lot bigger, but even if they had drained the whole system before the snow melt began they couldn't have made more than a few days difference in the end result.

Hahtoolah said...

I must say, I really didn't enjoy this puzzle. Not keen on cross-references, and the ones here were puzzles in of themselves. I agree with Tinbini, today was NO FUN.

I did like the Plot Device = HOE

Glad you will still be in puzzle land again, Windhover.

I agree with Kazie, that the Kentucky motto referenced in the puzzle includes the Latin word "Deo", so the full phrase must be more like Let Us Be Grateful to G-d. Can our resident Latin expert weigh in on this?

lois said...

Good morning CC et al., Good job, CC. It makes sense now.

I got so excited with the first clue 'see 69-Across'...whoa! What had John Dunn!!! Alas and alack, NO FUNny business, no MARK of dysfunction, no MONKEYing AROUND, but a NICE puzzle - just POE in the CUTESY dept. Guess his sturdy KEEL helped him CTRL his URGE to MONKEY AROUND--OMG, as far back as the MESOzoic period. There is ONE huge PARADOX LOOMing in the psychoLOGY here. With words like ABSENT, DEO, CUT, OMITS, XES, ICICLE compared to LAICLAL, OLDEN,
URGE, EMOTED, SIGN, ON YOU, RIDES, NIB, HOE, PERSONA, and ETS. So, perhaps conflicted & intersting, nevertheless, this ONE was basically NO FUN, but for a Thurs, IT'LL DO.

Off to do exciting wedding things w/baby girl today and pack for tomorrow's heat in OK, which really requires little clothing-swim suits and boots- strictly a 'carry on' trip-oh so true! Yeehaww!

Enjoy your day.

Anonymous said...

In 2002 Kentucky also recognized an official Latin motto: "Deo gratiam habeamus" (Let us be grateful to God). This phrase appears in the preamble to the constitution of the commonwealth of Kentucky.

I live here and I've never heard of this. The only motto for Kentucky that I know is United We Stand Divided We Fall.

69 A I wanted messes.

64 D Cable sta. for vintage films : TCM I like them they show old movies and don't have commercials. AMC used to show movies w/o commercials. I used to like watching the 3 stooges short but they ruined it by placing commercials during the show.

Fun Facts by Dave Letterman

In 1983, an Ohio family visiting New York stood at a broken "Don't Walk " sign for three days.

During a light caseload season in 1961, the Supreme Court judged beauty contests.

creature said...

My discomfort with dog is the single usage. I'm well aware of dogging dogged dogs dog tired. I will not dog [pester] you about this as long as you don't dog[follow]me home.

I'm obviously in the minority, but the added puzzle within the puzzle is just more I get to solve. It does take more time.

Now, that I've used up some of my blog allowances I will take a break. Grocery, etc.

Yellowrocks, thanks for using your hard earned allowances, as well.

I am not the resident Latin expert, but 4yrs in high school and 1yr at Vanderbilt tells me that Kazie is correct on all matters Latin.

creature said...


not grammar either..."tell"

sherry said...

I am in concurrence with Creature I absolutely don't think monkeying around is much fun for the victim, I cringe. Puzzle was tough had to get help on a few clues but it was a challenge. 1 across almost made me pu it down as I don't like this type of clue but esp. not for the first clue.

Yellowrocks said...

My huge, old print version of "Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionay of the English Language" is like the "Velveteen Rabbit" in the children's story, much loved and ragged from use.
It says that LAIC and LAICAL, both adjectives, are synonyms. Also LAY as an adjective is another synonym, as in lay teacher, lay sermon. The dictionary lists LAICALLY as the adverb.

Here's an example.
Your sins will dog you, pursue you. --Burroughs.

Anonymous said...

Hahtool, I'm curious - why do you type 'G-d'?

Lucina said...

Hello, C.C. and all.

Thanks for pinch hitting today, C.C. great job as always.

Not much time to comment as I must go collect my granddaughter.

Fun and challenging puzzle today with much misdirection which exercised my eraser.

MONKEY IN THE MIDDLE is unknown to me but I managed nicely with most of the fill.

Have a terrific Thursday, everyone!

Deist said...

God is sometimes written or typed as G-d,

because, to some orthodox and conservative Jews, God is considered too holy / profound / sacred / All-mighty - to preclude the name itself, from being mentioned.

Thus YHWH - as an alternative substitute etc. as a 'euphemism' for the real thing.

To each, their own.

kazie said...

I'm sure you were thinking of the collective sum of your background experience.

You've hit up against another grammatical problem: the non-existence in English of a dual gender reference for the impersonal pronoun in the possessive case. We always hear "to each, HIS own", but I'm guessing you didn't want to ruffle our female feathers by using that. However, "to each, their own" simply is not grammatical, though "their" has often been used to substitute for the lacuna. Perhaps we should say "to all, their own", or "to each, one's own", both of which are grammatical but sound like crap.

Anonymous said...

Does this mean that OMG could be substituted by OM_ , OM* or OM? or OM~ ?

( You 3 Hindus/Hindoos, at the back, pipe down - shush. )

Meant strictly in a facetious, non-insulting demeanor.

LOL. ( which, by the way, does NOT change - )

Anonymous said...

So you come here and read the blog, comment on the clues and answers, then solve the puzzle the following morning.

I've been doing it backwards all this time.

JD said...

Good morning C.C. and all,

Blessed be those perps! I too almost didn't do the xwd after reading 1A. Avg. Joe said it right---NASTY!

I did laugh when dog fell into place, as I have heard the expression, 'he was doggin' me" many times.

Also thinking about Clem Kadiddlehopper made me smile.Liked icicle for standoffish one.

I would not have gotten personna, emigre, paradox or adman without perps.Somehow Chloe's name came to me.

Ah Hahtool, a wonderful wise quote today.

Off to see Snowflower and the Secret Fan- loved the book. Just finishhed The Glass Castle, another great read.

Enthusiast said...

No, I comment first, before reading (the rest of - ) the blog ( why spoil my own mood - ? )

Then, I read the blog - omitting all but the humorous entries -

Then, I carefully scan and memorize the answer key -

Thenn, - if I feel like it - I bother to read the puzzle.

(and I also time myself -).

So far, I am a little ahead of Tyler Hinman. Yoo-hoo.

Alternate QOD: Be courteous to all, but intimate with One ( - at a time - ) and let that One be well tried before you give him your confidence. - Elizabeth Taylor.

Jayce said...

Hello everybody. Like Tinbeni, as soon as saw the very first clue said "See 69-Across" I almost shoved the puzzle aside in disgust. Then I looked at the layout, saw the black blocks on the NW and SE corners, and thought, "That looks kinda ugly." But finally curiosity got the better of me, so after having some breakfast (not soft boiled eggs) so I decided to give it a go. Dunno, dunno, dunno, dunno, could be anything, could be anything, etc, could be anything, and finally I hit my first "I know what this is" entry: Malcolm McDowell. That enabled me to get started.

Wasn't a lot of fun doing, however, and I was awash in that ole "meh" feeling by the time it was over.

windhover said...

Proverbs 26:4

Jayce said...

Had MARY and CUTEST (what else would an adjective ending in ES_ be? LOL) which made me wonder what _ONYET could be. And putting in GENERIC instead of GENERAL made me go "Huh?" at LAICIAC. Heck, HANA's name could just as well be HANI for all I knew.

The one thing that gave me a smile was the clue "Plot device?" which I thought was lovely.

Objectively speaking, however, I do admire the complexity of the structure. I absolutely do not in any way belittle or minimize the constructor's and editor's talents and effort, no matter how uninteresting I find a puzzle to be, subjectively.

By the way, no trace of retinopathy was found in my scan yesterday. At least my eyes are in good shape :)

Best wishes to you all.

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, It was an enjoyable Thursday level puzzle. I'm not crazy about split entries, but they were gettable with the clues and/or perps.

I knew 38A)MALCOLM MC DOWELL right away, so that helped. The addition of CHLOE Sevigny made it an easy area to complete.

I can never listen to Stealers Wheel's "Stuck In The Middle With You", without thinking of the gory Michael Madsen scene from Quentin Tarantino's "Reservoir Dogs". If you've seen it, you know what I mean. If you haven't seen it, you probably won't want to.

Marvell's TO HIS Coy Mistress reminds me a lot of Robert Herrick's To The Virgins, To Make Much of Time, which was written around the same time. The idea of both is, "If we had all the time in the world, we could talk, flirt, love and enjoy thinking about the future. But, since we don't have all the time in the world, let's hit the sack and enjoy ourselves right now"

Anonymous said...

ahhhhh, that old trusty book of mtyhology.

Anonymous said...

'Plot device'. - "hoe" - could just as well, have been clued - 'ghetto pejorative'.

'From one who knows', and has experienced Retinopathy, first hand.-

If, you close your eyes, in a dark room, and can see red spots or red 'flames' - through your eyelids - then, that is the first sign of palpable retinopathy.

Lucina said...

Like most of you I find split clue / answers unappealing, however, I can not ignore a challenging puzzle.

As it turned out, this was not that much of a challenge.

I especially liked

got fed up, ATE
tip for a writer, NIB (and we've seen pen in this answer, too)
professional pitcher, ADMAN

And I much prefer TSE as Eliot's initials than half a fly.

One of my BFFs is MARK so I liked that.

And best of all, only one sports clue which was easily WAGGED, TAIWAN.

Nice Cuppa said...

Dorogoy droogs

Zammechat rabbit, C.C and shaika.

J.D. vareeted a choodessny, horrorshow cross-slovo - no sarky. Ponied the veshch p.d. skorry, but needed a lomtick of starry gulliver in the south-east to avoid a tolchook (bit of a bitva). Finally, the second gloopy restored soviet.

Time for a spatchka (no in-out-in-out, please, we’re Britski), but before I hit the podooska:

1. Apologies to Burgess and non-Nadsat speakers.

2. The Russian (and Slavic in general) word for “God” is “Bog” (I learned this in skolliwoll). Ever since, I have had a hard-wire axonal connection from there to the “Slough of Despond” (Pilgrim’s Progess/John Bunyan (the one who had a face like pickled onion)…..

and from there, inevitably, to Betjeman’s:

Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough (U.K. town),
To get it ready for the plough.
The cabbages are coming now;
The earth exhales

Dobra Chashka

Lucina said...

I must correct myself from yesterday when mentioning ESL students. I forgot about Surinam, Guyana and the Caribbean Islands.

The only students I've had from those regions were from Haiti and Cuba.

Bill G:
Is this the first time your daughter has been gone that far and is that why you are apprehensive?

Anonymous said...

You're Welcome Windhover. I have always used the Chi town Tribune site since The blog was called the Star Tribune blog I still still have the site book mark named as this. Too lazy to change it I guess.

windhover said...

Well, now that I know your name, I can thank you properly.
So thanks Anon.
And it is (mostly) possible to ignore the puzzle references and still read the blog. But I'll admit that one sneaks into the subconscious occasionally. Guess that's a mild form of 'cheating'. But my level in any case is that I probably can't do most of the Saturday puzzles, even with the answers in front of me. So there.

eddyB said...

Hi there.

The NZ Registar of Births has banned parents from using Lucifer
for thier baby's name.

Which leads us to Tess Gerritsen's
Book 6, she cites ancient Hebrew texts saying Lilith was Adam's first wife. Lilith ran off with Goat Demons and was the mother of Lucifer. Fastcinating!

70 days and counting. eddy

Husker Gary said...

Just back from golf on a lovely day.

AJ, politicians are lining up from Pierre to St. Louis to talk to the ACE about the water releases and the Black Book they use. Some are defending the book and others say it is too dated and rigid. This will make for a lot of grist for the political mills this winter. Every politician is searching for a soapbox and so this should be entertaining. First and foremost, the ACE vehemently claims they did NOT regulate any releases so the Least Tern could nest or the Pallid Sturgeon could do whatever they need to do. The damage is incalculable and we’ll see where this leads.

Many people have been flooded out who had no business on the flood plain. One of these was our good friends who built adjacent to the river in Tekamah, Nebraska and had just turned down a $200,000 offer for their house earlier this spring. They now can only see the roof.

eddyB said...

oops. Two typos.

I see a blue circle which shrinks
and bursts into pixels with my

Beltran to the Giants!

take care.

Bill G. said...

Lucina, I must have seemed more apprehensive than I meant to. She's smart and responsible and I'm sure will have a great time. I didn't know much about Costa Rica but you guys have reassured me that it's an excellent choice for a place to visit.

Jayce said...

Lucina, I totally agree with you about preferring TSE as Eliot's initials than as half a fly. Well said.

Lemonade714 said...

Habeamus: verb, we have
Gratiam: Object of verb, thanks
D-o: (with) G-d

Latin declines its nouns so the sentence is correctly, if loosely translated as suggested by all.

We do not put a word in a book, letter or place where it may be desecrated, e.g. if you dropped your book and steppedon the holy me.

Abejo said...

Good Evening, folks. Thank you John Dunn for a great puzzle. I really did enjoy it. Thank you, C.C. for the write-up.

Back in Erie we called it it "Pickle in the Middle." I never heard "Monkey in the Middle" until I left Erie.

One of the two problems I had with this puzzle was the SE, I had CUTEST instead of CUTESY. That goofed up MONKEY, which goofed up MARK, which goofed up CHURLS. Eventually, as I was flying into Illinois, I figured it out. By the time we landed at O'Hare Field I was done. The other was CLEM. I thought he spelled it KLEM, to go along with KADDIDLEHOPPER. Oh well, fixed them both.

All others fell into place easily, for a Thursday.

I did this on the airplane from Dallas to Chicago. I am now unemployed, but will look for more work in a couple months. I have a lot of work to do in Pennsylvania and Illinois on my properties.

Tomorrow I am off to Springfield for a York Rite Annual Meeting.

See you tomorrow.


dodo said...

Ev'nin' folks

Pretty smooth for a Thursday! Is it I, or are this week's puzzle much mor doable than usual. Whichever it is, I'm not knocking it! It seems to have been my speed all week! Maybe I'll try tomorrow's.

HUTCH said...

Too many years have gone by but!!!Latin is strong on tenses."God", for instance, is Dei, Deus, and Deo. Deo means " to God". The objective tense. Therefor the phrase means " We give grace{or thanks} to God.

Chickie said...

Hola Everyone, I had much the same experience with this puzzle as others did.
C.C. It was lovely to see you doing the writeup today. I do miss Al, but it is nice that you can take his place.

Late today in finishing the puzzle, as I canned apricots and made apricot and plum tortes for the freezer. It was a job to get everything done today, but I will certainly enjoy using these food items later this year when the fruit is all gone from the markets.

kazie said...

Don't talk about tense except with verbs. Tense means time. What you needed here was case. And Deo is either dative or ablative--not accusative = objective. And yes, there are at least four noun declensions that I can remember, and each has both singular and plural endings for each of the 6 cases: nominative, vocative, accusative, genitive, dative and ablative. Not only that but adjectives get declined too in three genders and all six cases.

fermatprime said...

Hi all!

Thanks everyone for the feedback on fleas!

I am the only one who had lots of trouble with today's offering. Thanks CC for write-up. Just did not get the MIDDLE thing.

Went to orthopod this aft. Got a cortisone shot in my right knee. Friend Arthur is really bad there, evidently.

Harvey fixed an underdone turkey patty. Hope it does not kill me. Am extremely sleepy! Off to bed.


dodo said...

Grumpy, you awtta do standup!

A colleague who just returned from visiting in Missouri says that the stench from rotting corn,due to floods, is pretty bad! Even higher prices for Corn on the cob?

Bill G. I trust your daughter will travel with a group? My 17 year old granddaughter went with a group to Costa Rica last year and loved it. No problems. I understand it's a good retirement place? Not for me, though; it's hot enough here!

Bang up blogging, C.C. Good to have your here!

dodo said...

No wonder I fropped Latin in ninth grade!

dodo said...

DROPPED! Kazie, you are terrific!

Chickie, you wear me out with your boundless activity! I so enjoyed the berries you brought me in June! What a trest. Thanks again. How wonderful to have all that bounty on your own property!

Maybe I could get a steroid shot!

Bill G. said...

Dodo, my daughter is 33 and is traveling with a girlfriend. I just saw some pictures she posted on her Facebook page including one on a horse. She looks like she's having a great time.

Lucina said...

Actually the climate in Costa Rica is very agreeable, neither too hot and never too cold.

Anonymous said...

I got in the In the middle quite quickly. then the Elvis song was easy because the first thing I thought of was the song ...Jokers to the left, clowns to the right, and I'm STUCK in the middle with you." I really enjoyed this puzzle.