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Oct 2, 2021

Saturday, October 2, 2021, C.C. Burnikel

 Saturday Themeless by C.C. Burnikel

Today we have another engaging, themeless puzzle by our Mistress of Ceremonies, C.C. Burnikel; shown here as a Chinese/Minnesota girl supporting my Huskers. I had a nice solving experience and told C.C. that LAMB BURGER, FARRO and FORESIDE were new for me. These are her comments:

Hi Gary,

My notes below. I also attached my first grid. (C.C. gave me permission to post her original grid on the right below -hg)

Here's my original grid. It had a different upper stack. Rich, a longtime Yankees fan, felt TRUE YANKEE was a bit snobbish and would not resonate with solvers. 

As usual, some great clues are Rich's: ANT, BARD, etc. 

 








Across:

1. Grilled sandwiches sometimes served with yogurt sauce: LAMB BURGERS - LAMB BURGER with feta-yogurt sauce and cucumber, tomato, onion, dill salad


12. Spinning music holders: CDS - I was a generation early with LPS

15. Annual promotional period: OSCAR SEASON - MGM ran this full page ad in Variety promoting Norma Shearer to get 
42. Like Oscars and Emmys: AWARDED the OSCAR again in 1931


16. Blame: RAP.

17. "Casino" Best Actress nominee: SHARON STONE - She held her own with some real heavyweight actors. This mini-poster she autographed can be yours for $259.


18. "__ moved on": I'VE.

19. P&L report column: YTD - Year To Date

20. Took a course: ATE - The course of a meal, uh, of course

21. Mass production?: SERMON -That's a great clue for part of a Catholic service.

23. Homes with brakes: RVS - This RV carries another vehicle that has brakes


24. Least likely to volunteer, probably: LAZIEST

25. DVD alternative: BLU-RAY ZDNet says BLU-RAY is dead

29. Largest of New York's Finger Lakes: SENECA - Yup!


30. Fleet: RAPID 

31. "My bad": THAT'S ON ME.


34. Admin. aide: ASST - Many school secretaries are now called Administrative Assistants

35. Grain of emmer or spelt: FARRO - Two varieties of Italian wheat. All about FARRO
36. Bars from Mars: TWIX.

37. Unseal without ripping: STEAM OPEN.


39. Old hat: STALE.

40. Went on the road: TOURED - Even with advancing age and weight, Axl Rose and Guns 'N Roses are TOURING and drawing big bucks at the 
8. Total ticket receipts: GATE.


41. Strung treasures: PEARLS.


44. Comb creator: BEE.


45. Green sides: SALADS.

46. Little fox: KIT.

47. TV monitor: FCC 


50. Jazz __: AGE.

51. Studies in a foreign country, say: LIVES ABROAD - Here is my granddaughter Emma in 2017 studying and living in Grenoble, France.


55. Skagerrak country: Abbr.: NOR - It is a strait in the area of the world where the names of the countries are easily decipherable. 


56. Opinion page perspective: EDITORIAL WE - No one on the EDITORIAL staff can take sole blame or credit for this opinion

57. One in an army: ANT.

58. Many a sports fan's criticism: SECOND GUESS - Seattle coach Pete Carrol's decision to pass instead of run from the one-yard line in Super Bowl XLIV may be the most SECOND GUESSED decision in sports history. Malcolm Butler made the interception and New England was the champion.



Down:

1. Andalusian article: LOS 
LOS niños de Andalusia están en el sur de España (The children of Andalusia live in southern Spain)


2. Pale: ASHY - Lady Gaga definitely is using that shade


3. Aspiring doc's hurdle: MCAT - Sample question: (I have no idea what the answer is)


4. Avon product?: BARD - Stratford Upon Avon's most famous native was a BARD and C.C. said she admired Rich's cluing here

5. Fella: BRO.

6. "Top Gun" org.: U.S. NAVY.


7. Naps, say: RESTS.

9. Pamplona pronoun: ESO - How I remember this Spanish pronoun


10. Hall of Famer whose #10 was retired by the Cubs: RON SANTO 


11. Dismisses as insignificant, with "at": SNEEZES.

12. "The Charge of the Light Brigade" setting: CRIMEAN WAR - Often compared to Pickett's Charge at Gettysburg 

13. Swiss skiing mecca: DAVOS.


14. Tuckered out: SPENT.

22. Cheese for cannoli: RICOTTA.


23. "Wicked!": RAD.

24. Hear: LEARN - How did you LEARN/hear of the 9/11/01 attack?

25. Cup holders?: BRAS.

26. Go the distance: LAST - One of Ray's messages in Field Of Dreams


27. Sports show warning message: UPSET ALERT - What some sports prognosticators say before they predict an UPSET in a game

28. "R.I.P." singer: RITA ORA Her IMDB

29. Trace, as of evidence: SHRED.


31. Caught on video: TAPED.

32. "A System of Logic" author, 1843: MILL All you need to know about John Stuart Mill's book

33. They're sometimes blocked on social media: EXES - It would seem unusual to allow an EX to be a FaceBook friend.

35. Front: FORESIDE.

38. Confused states: MUDDLES - Verb form: We all MUDDLE through puzzles sometimes

39. Understand: SEE.

41. Old explosive device: PETARD.


42. Wall-assisted handstand, e.g.: ASANA - A yoga pose


43. Tot's ride: WAGON.

44. Plains grazers: BISON - Reminiscent of the tuba/sousaphone confusion


46. Fat-heavy diet: KETO.


47. Hamburg honorific: FRAU - Claris Leachman was brilliant as FRAU Blücher in Young Frankenstein 


48. Porter on a piano: COLE - COLE Porter produced beautiful music during what some would call his tortured life

49. Sounds near the ears: CAWS - Oh, those ears...


52. Hall of Fame tennis player __ Seixas: VIC - 1953 Wimbledon Champion who is now 98 years old


53. Front-page: BIG.
54. Some French?: DES - Aforementioned granddaughter helped Papa out with "Je vais manger DES pommes 🍎" (I am going to eat some apples)









47 comments:

OwenKL said...

FIW. 🅦A🅡IEST < LAZIEST, SNEE🅡ES < SNEEZES, and naticks I guessed wrong RON SANT🅞, 🅛EA🅡N, FAR🅡🅞.

When we use the EDITORIAL "WE",
We mean just I, not you and me.
Do we need to explain
The royal's the same?
But if we misuse it, THAT'S ON ME!

Stratford-on-AVON was the cradle of the BARD.
The GATE from his plays was his reward.
"The play's the thing,"
His genius may sing,
But his play's have won many actors an AWARD!

{A, B.}

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Yay, no theme to not get. Gotta love it. Thought this one was going to get me, but after ten minutes things started to come together. Suddenly it was finished. Isn't DAVOS just a spot where rich politicians gather to talk about money. PETARD -- something to be "hoist" upon. Thanx for the diversion, C.C., and for the explanation, Husker.

YooperPhil said...

Thanks C.C. And Rich for the Saturday challenge, managed to FIR in 25 mins, the last 7 of which I tried to decipher the last 2 letters of “editorial”....also learned a few new things, Davis, Farro (still have no idea what the clue means though).

Jinx in Norfolk said...

FIR on this no-Natick Saturday! Plenty of unknowns, but near-friendly crosses saved the day. Erased lps for CDS, tired for SPENT, and had to fix RoCaTTA and MUDDLEd with help from the perps.

CSOs to Melissa at BEE, and to me at RV and TOURED. Got home Wednesday, leaving for New Bern Monday. Great camping weather! (I used to see an RV with a purpose-built port for a Smart Car at the big Tampa RV Supershow, but since they no longer make Smart Cars the "garage" is just a big storage area now. The RV was one of those multi-million dollar units built on a Prevost bus chassis.)

I think that Sharon Stone is best known for crossing her legs.

Do BRAS hold cups? I've heard them called a lot of things, but "cups" is a new one on me.

ATLGranny said...

It looks like it's going to be a great day: I ended up with a FIR! Had some slow spots, but they finally started filling in. My LAMBBURGERS corner was the last to fall. Perps helped with names I was unfamiliar with. WOs were trike/WAGON, ShAme ON ME/THAT'S ON ME, Herr/FRAU, busIEST/LAZIEST, and STAid/STALE. Oh and tAkE/GATE which contributed to my problems in that corner. But, it all ended well. Thanks so much, C.C. It was interesting to see the earlier version of the puzzle. And thanks to you, Husker Gary, for explaining so well.

Looking forward to seeing the comments from you all. Have a great weekend!

Wilbur Charles said...

I did an alpha run on CA?S. When
I got to M(E) I looked at Mr S and he nodded. FIW

I never even noticed it was CC, I'd love to see her clues for the original (Babe and Lou?)

I inked Sandberg. Got RON with the R and S. Tough one for non bball folks.

Gotta run

WC

Big Easy said...

The NW was the toughest for me (and ATLGranny) to complete. LAS & BUD kept me off track. LAMBBURGERS are unknown to me and I only got SHARON STONE after enough perps were in place. Avon product-BARD- I filled as a WAG.

FARRO, PETARD-new to me, perps.
KETO- knew it as another 'diet'; didn't know it was fat-heavy.
SENECA- another WAG; don't know the names of the lakes but with CRIMEAN WAR in place I thought maybe ITHACA, SENECA, or ATTICA.

EDITORIAL WE? C.C., it sounds like you made that one up but I GUESS it's like the Royal We""; new term for me. An ABC run to got the W. It was the only letter that let me FIR for the 49D clue. Wilbur- you stopped to early.

VIC Seixas- I didn't know he was still alive. He moved to the NOLA area about 40 years ago and was the 1st director of tennis at the Hilton's indoor tennis facility where DW played tennis and now plays pickleball.

MCAT- I took it over 50 years ago and scored in the top 10%. I was ignorant of the fact that getting into med school was more 'who you know' than 'what you know' and I didn't know anybody.

Jinx in Norfolk said...

If I may borrow the Cornerite computer brain trust for a nsec: I built a new desktop computer out of the latest and greatest parts a little over two years ago. Now I see that it can't go to Win 11 because the motherboard doesn't support "secure boot". I know Microsoft claims that they will keep supporting 10, but at some point they are bound to sunset it. Am I just being paranoid about this? Is it feasible to change out the motherboard but keep all the installed applications? Seems like they are making an awful lot of computers obsolete.

Barry T. said...

ForJinx in Norfolk:

I think that Sharon Stone is better known for UN-crossing her legs.

Have a great day!

Spitzboov said...

Good morning everyone.

Grew impatient in the SW and finally took help with ASANA, but got everything else. Liked the long downs.
Had Herr before FRAU.
Favorite clue was for CAW. We throw moldy bread on the lawn and the crows usually come and dine. They seem very intelligent and social.
Skagerrak - DEN was also a possibility. The Skaw peninsula juts into the Strait, along with the local community, Skagen.
SENECA - Did some limnology field work in the southern sector of Seneca Lake; near Watkins Glen,


Lemonade714 said...

As D-O said a petard is what your "hoist" on. Another phrase from Shakespeare, this time meaning one who makes a bomb may be blown up by his own device.

Editorial WE also was surprisingly difficult, as it was a long standing unwritten rule that journalists did no insert themselves into their articles.

I am impressed by C.C.'s ability to rework what appears to be a very reasonable puzzle to satisfy Rich's reverse discrimination. As a lifelong Yankee hater, I would have accepted TRUE YANKEE knowing many.

Thanks HG, and I am sure your granddaughter had a great time in France

tiptoethru said...

Ready to head out to Spearfish Canyon, then on to Lead (home town) and a concert tonight in the Opera House---I thought all movie theaters had to have opera seats and Tiffany chandeliers. It was a big dissapointment when I went out into the world and found most looked like big boxes with a screen on one end! I had to comment here today to say that C.C.'s puzzles are some of my favorites! I can ask my partner (the baseball fanatic) the answers and he's proud because he can help me solve her puzzles! Take care all and thanks to all the contributors, creators and commentators. And, Jayce, I don't think I've heard the place you've described being called the Blue Grotto, but if it's the same place, locals refer to it as Hell's Canyon. Your name may be better:)

jfromvt said...

First pass, I came up empty, but then got RONSANTO and SENECA instead of SANDBERG and ONEIDA, and was on my way. A challenging but fair puzzle. Well done!

billocohoes said...

I think the instructions for a handstand should include how to get back down other than falling on your head.

Acesaroundagain said...

Thanks CC for allowing us to see your original puzzle. I like yours better. It was very interesting to see the changes.

desper-otto said...

jfromvt, hand up for trying ONEIDA first. Didn't last long.

Kkflorida said...

Thanks C.C. for a challenging Saturday puzzle. At first I thought this was going to be a DNF but somehow it all came together and I solved it with just a few white out moments. I actually had a lamb burger at a diner about a week ago. It was delicious. Thanks for the expo Rich

Malodorous Manatee said...

Thanks C.C. and Rich for a good Saturday workout.. . and yes, as with many puzzles on this supposed day of rest, it was work. Slow and steady work but work. I do not know the uniform numbers for the ChiCubs so went thru Sammy Sosa, Ryne Sandberg and Ernie Banks as possibilities before sussing out SANTOS. FORESIDE was new and a close variation was not likely to be making an appearance in an LAT puzzle.

PK said...

Hi Y'all! Rewarding challenge, C.C., thanks. Your perseverance to please Rich is admirable.
Thank you Husker for your fine presentation.

Never had a LAMBBURGER so that sat empty for a long time.

The NE corner section was the last to fill. Couldn't come up with CDS for "spinning music holders" or SPENT as clued. DNK DAVOS. Thought "mass production" - SERMON after finally filling it.

DNK: RON SANTO, RITA ORA, FARRO, MILL, VIC.

Husker, After careful study of the instructions for ASANA/walk up the wall, I have decided not to try it. Think I'll try becoming more efficient at walking on the floor first. I tend to stagger around a lot.

PK said...

Should read: I thought "mass production" for SERMON was chuckleworthy ...

Picard said...

CC I liked your original grid. What Rich turned it into, not so much. FIW with an utter Natick crossing at utterly unknowns RON SANTe/FARRe which seemed just as good.

Jinx Learning moment about SHARON STONE and the leg (un)crossing thing. I suppose I owe knowing this to Rich's change.

Husker Gary I immediately thought of that FRAU. Thanks! And thank you for the ASANA explanation image.

Here are our family photos of us at Stratford Upon AVON.

The house of the BARD Shakespeare is in the second row of photos.

waseeley said...

WOW! This is the first SOLO Saturday puzzle from C.C. for me and it was a real challenge. But I was able to wrassle it to my YOGURT MAT to perform a FIR ASANA.

Great review as always as always Gary.

Favs and thoughts:

1A I've already emailed 1A along with the picture to DW, with an offer to pick up some lamb next time at the Giant (all of the supermarkets are big in the Land of Pleasant Living).

21A Where I come from the priests call them HOMILIES. Your Masses May Very.

31A Had MY MISTAKE crossing with KANT, but couldn't work in anything around it.

3D MCAT My SWAG would be C. Phospholipids form bi-layers to form MEMBRANES.

4D BARD. Technically Will was a product of the town of STRATFORD, the latter being a product of the river AVON. Well he's a grandproduct maybe.

12D CRIMEAN WAR. 165 years later and that war is still going on.

24D LEARN. I learned about 9/11 on the floor of a data center in Miami.

25D I thought BRAS hold the cups that hold the things that make us MAMMALS. 😉

41D PETARD. You can also be "hoisted by one".

49D My favorite clue/fill. I had LCD for 47A and HERR for 47D (MCP me?).

Cheers,
Bill

Picard said...

desper-otto and Lemonade I think you may be misunderstanding the meaning of the BARD's phrase in Hamlet "Hoist with his own PETARD". There is no "upon" involved. In this case it just means to be blasted up into the air. By the PETARD.

jfromvt and desper-otto Hand up for ONEIDA before SENECA.

From Yesterday:
Thank you all again for the kind comments regarding the nasty treatment of my DW by the immigration agent.

Vidwan and AnonT Glad my explanation about the paraglider sleeping bag was helpful.

OwenKL Very happy to know that Star Trek was also your introduction to TERI GARR!

AnonT Thank you for linking the high-suspense scene with TERI GARR in Star Trek. I did not know that about the shorter skirt thing. Where did you hear that?

Do you know about the Theiss Titillation Theory?

Malodorous Manatee said...

A few years back, I had the same "Aha" moment as Picard when I looked up "hoisted on his own petard". I was expecting to find that a petard was some type of pike or lance or some such thing. But, no, it turned out to be an explosive device such as one a sapper would employ.

Kelly Clark said...

C.C., an absolute pleasure to solve and admire. Thank you so much.

Vidwan827 said...

Thank you CC for a very challenging puzzle and HuskG for an enjoyable review.

HG, I'm sure your Granddaughter had a great time in Grenoble, but it makes me wonder what anyone can learn in that area ( France) that they could not learn stateside... other than more French. My 'eldest' took a year off, many years ago, to study in England, ( but not Oxford or Camb., because they are not into med sciences ...) ... but I think she just had a good time, learned to live on a budget, and how to detest Brit-Indian-Pakistani food...
After that, I refused to finance any more pf her side trips abroad, so she concentrated on her core courses, at schools stateside, and her career.

I was preparing an elaborate Sat breakfast, this morning, and got tied up before I could approach the puzzle, hence this delay.

I had a tough time with the puzzle ..... but I managed to complete it.
.... RITA ORA, VIC and RON SANTO were the most difficult clues and answers.
MILL and DAVOS were easier. Names are sometimes unfathomable.
SENECA was a gimme, since I lived for yrs in Rochester NY, and I visited Watkin's Glen and the vineyards several times.

RE: Comparing The Charge of the Light Brigade (CLB) vis a vis to Pickett's charge (PC)....

1. CLB was because of a misunderstanding between commanders, but, eventually, well executed against a poorer prepared foe ...
But PC , through well planned, all along, was poor executed, against a better foe ...


2. CLB was ultimately successful, but PC was not.

Have a nice day, all.

Anonymous T said...

Close but no cigar...

Hi All!

I was pretty sure there was only one B in Hamburger but perps said otherwise. Oh, LAMB BURGER. D'Oh!

Thanks C.C. for the puzzle. I had many light-bulb moments that made the struggle worth the near-solve.

Great expo HG. Here's all I know about philosophers in general and MILL specifically :-) [Python]

WOs: take -> GATE; expected 44d to be plural so put an S in; MUDDLEd (Hi Jinx!)
ESPs: RITA ORA (a CSO to MIL!), ferrin words.
Fav: THAT'S ON ME or FCC's clue?... flip a coin.
Or is it cannoli [leave the gun] in a clue? //best cannoli I'VE had was in Boston across the way from the famous Mikes -- it had a less oily shell.

49d needed a '?' IMHO; it's a cute joke, CAW is.

{B+, A}

D-O: 10 minutes? Dude, er BRO!, it took me nearly 2 hours on and off.

Jinx - I agree. BRAs cup; notot hold cups.
//ever ask your SO, "Can I be your bra today? I'll just walk behind you like this..." and you get that exasperated rolled-eye look and are quickly dismissed? Just me? Gotta keep it fresh :-)
Re: Motherboard - your HD should be fine w/ current programs but drivers loaded from the git-go are going to have issues with your new hardware. Sometimes, if setup correctly, the HD won't boot because too much underneath changed. YMMV*)
//I'm still running Win7 on my 'crossword' laptop. Win10 will be around for some time.

Picard - I don't recall where I heard GARR had an issue with Roddenberry about the skirt. I just remembered that he got a '-1' in my book. //he's still up there with visionaries but that (if true) took a point away.

While solving, I got to watch the funniest thing out here in the garage. There's a gecko on one side of the window's screen and a moth on the other. The poor gecko has been 'striking' over and over thinking a meal is right there. S/He's no idea what a screen is :-)

Cheers, -T
*LOL homilies, waseeley.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Proud of m'self for knowing PETARD right off, but then embarrassed to see how sadly I missed "Avon product."
Shoulda known!

Today I learned how wrong I have been thinking the Skagerrak belonged to DENmark. That threw me for a while. NORway, dammit!

Anyway, Saturday is usually tough. My standard practice is to do as much as I can on my own. (Maybe 40% today.) Then I will start cheating by taking quick peek (and I mean quick) at the answer grid--to pick up one good clue.
Then I'll take that stolen gem back to the gaping page to see how much further I can get with that one assist.
Then pause. Repeat. And so on.

BUT today I got into serious trouble right off the bat.
SEE, I had not yet read C.C.'s explanation of why there were two side-by-side grids--showing the development and changes in the PZL over time.
Naturally, I picked the WRONG grid in my hasty peeking!

I had no idea why FOYER was a proper answer for 35A. Still, I filled it in, expecting all would be made clear when I returned to read Husker G's analysis.
Naturally, I spent the better part of an hour lost in my own MUDDLED state!

D'OH!
~ OMK
____________
DR:
Two diags, one to a side.
Not many vowels on the near side, but the far side offers an anagram (13 of 15 letters) that refers to those political subdivisions in which red tribe members regularly tell the world of governmental encroachment on their "constitutional freedom" with "socialist mask mandates," "vaccine passports," etc.
I refer, of course, to our neighbors in ...

"PARANOID AREAS"!

Misty said...

Saturday puzzles are such toughies for me, that I usually skip them. But I would never skip a C.C. puzzle and this turned out to be a lot of fun (although I also liked her own version better!). And, Gary, your commentary was very helpful, thanks for that too.

LIVES ABROAD was pretty straight-forward for me. Well, I lived abroad (Austria) before coming to the States, but also did most of my best studies here.

I also got AWARDED right away--hey, I watch the Oscars and the Emmys pretty faithfully. But it was SALADS for "green sides" that made me laugh.

Loved your explanation of the two kinds of PEARLS, Gary--very interesting. Will have to check what mine are, if I can find them in the small jewelry drawer.

Thanks again for the delightful puzzle and solving, C.C. and Gary.

And have a great weekend, everybody.

Unknown said...

Really cute shoes, C.C.😊

Jayce said...

I enjoyed this puzzle very much, even though I had to look up emmer and Seixas to get FARRO and VIC. Hand up for ONEIDA. Knew SHARON STONE and CRIMEAN WAR right away.
TRIKE --> WAGON. SHIPS --> RAPID. ERA --> AGE. GET --> SEE. HERR --> FRAU.
Loved the clue for FCC.

desper-otto said...

There are 11 finger lakes in NYS, and not one of them is named ONEIDA. Why did jfromvt, Picard, Jayce and I all go wrong? There is a Lake Oneida in western NYS, but we all improperly fingered it.

Jayce said...

Jinx, my computer doesn't have that "secure boot" hardware either, and I therefore don't expect to be able to run Windows 11. I plan to stick with Windows 10, which I understand Microsoft will continue to support through 2015. From what I have read about Windows 11 there is nothing about it that I find attractive or compelling anyway. If and when Microsoft yanks away support for Win 10 I'll either keep using my unsupported PC or go iMac.

Vidwan827 said...

RE: 3 Down, Aspiring doc's hurdle ... MCAT

My eldest daughter called up earlier, in her twice weekly (weakly - ?) chat with my wife, about the grandchildren, and I barged into the conversation, and asked her about the MCAT question, Husker Gary had blogged...

I was going to Google this whole shebamm, not knowing the answer, but I just read the question(s) to my daughter,..... and at response C, she immediately told me .... 'Thats the answer'...

I helped her with the MCAT prep in year 2000, when she was a sophomore, 2 yrs into college, but most of the help, was in the areas of Math, Physics, Logic and inorganic chemistry. Its been 17 years since she graduated from Med School, and I never expected she could have remembered all these mundane biochemistry details....

She didnt even wait for the D answer, but knew C was correct ... But, when I asked her how she knew ... she gave me a logical reasoning, and raionale, that makes it very easy... for all of us to understand ...

********************************

Supppose Fatty Acids are FA, Phos-pho-Lipids are PPL, "Tails" are A,
and micelles are 'P' and membranes are 'Q'

Then the responses are:
A). FA has 2-As and a P. and PPL has One A and a Q
B). FA has 2-As and a Q, and PPL has 2-As and a P

C). FA has One-A and a P, and PPL has 2-As and a Q
D). FA has One-A and a Q, and PPL has 2-As and a P

If you know just THE FIRST PART of the statement is correct, that is all that is required ....

.....that is a NECESSARY AND SUFFICIENT condition to give the right answer ... you dont even have to know the second part.!!!

What you do have to know is that Fatty Acids have only One Tail (A) and they are the only org that form micelles (P) .... therefore, C HAS TO BE the only correct answer.

So, its much easier than it looks, with all the verbiage ....
You dont need John Stuart MILL's book on the Logic Of Deduction ... or even Sherlock Holmes' pipe to figure that out ...

(Now, even I understand it ...!!)
Please excuse me for the length of this post... and the TMI.

Wilbur Charles said...

Fortunately we just had MCAT.

Hopefully RITA ORA was payback for non baseball folk. Nope, I see it was generally unknown.

Interesting pics Picard. Olde England

Re. Charge of the Light Brigade. It was an unmitigated disaster: "The Light Brigade reached the battery under withering direct fire and scattered some of the gunners, but they were forced to retreat immediately, and the assault ended with very high British casualties and no decisive gains."

wiki version

Pickett's charge failed but more from the skill and armament of the defenders.

BigE, yes, it's too bad my alphabet run wasn't done in reverse. mAWS made no sense

WC

Unknown said...

Ask a lifelong educator, I intensely disagree with the HEAR/LEARN pairing. Teachers know that students hear lots of info in classrooms but only LEARN WHEN THEY APPLY WHAT THEY HEAR TO PROBLEMS THEY ARE SOLVING. You may disagree, but I am adamant about this more precise definition! I'm open to arguments.

Chairman Moe said...

Puzzling thoughts:

FIW with my Naticks @ SNEEZES/LAZIEST (I was too LAZY to do the full alphabet run to get the Z) and DAVOS/RAP. Plenty of WO’s:

LPS/CDS; CRT/FCC; BUGGY/WAGON; ERA/AGE; PASSE/STALE

EDITORIAL WE was a WAG but CAWS fit so I left it stand

FLN: Owen, thanks. And your limericks have been quite good lately, too. We might both take a CSO to BARD!

BARD liked to enter
Rodeo events. He’s a
Poet lariat

Thanks to CC for a tough but solvable Saturday. Mark McClain, my other crossword mentor has tomorrow’s puzzle. Looking forward to it!

Michael said...

Jayce @ 3:56: "I plan to stick with Windows 10, which I understand Microsoft will continue to support through 2015."

There goes Microsoft again, boldly exploring where they used to be.

Jayce said...

Oops, I meant to write "I plan to stick with Windows 10, which I understand Microsoft will continue to support through 2025." Heck, since I'm going to be 80 in a week, I might not even still be alive by then.

Anonymous said...

Re; hoist by his petard, I first learned the phrase not from Hamlet, but from Haman, the villain in Esther, a perhaps more telling example. Haman had a special extra-high gallows built to hang his Jewish enemy, but tables turned and he was hanged on his own gallows. Since hoist means to be lifted up by a rope, that seemed to fit perfectly, and so for many years I assumed a petard was a gallows or gallows rope.

Hand up for ONEIDA. My geography is terrible, but Oneida was the first non-Great lake that came to mind, and it fit.

C.Moe LOL at Poet lariat!

waseeley said...

Vidwan @4:08 PM I guessed C as well. Thanks to your daughter for confirming it. If you backtrack you'll find my post with a link that explains why.

waseeley said...

MOE @6:16 PM And you're our Poet Des Groans!

waseeley said...

Michael @6:27 PM. LMAO 🤣

waseeley said...

Anonymous @7:56 PM. Was this Haman hoisted in the Book of Esther perchance? I think he's also the inspiration of Hamantash pastries.

OwenKL said...

Anonymous @ 7:56 PM was OwenKL.

Anonymous T said...

SciFi fans...

Youngest insisted DW & I watch Free Guy [Trailer] this eve.

//"I know Dad's going to say how the technology is wrong and that couldn't happen but... can you make him be quiet?", she asked DW. :-)
Actually, they got most of the gaming-tech right.

Anyway, the movie is a brilliant concept with humor & just a bit of sweet.
Two Thumbs Up.

Cheers, -T

Moodnuck said...

EDITORIAL WE? Are you kidding we? Let not use made up words lady.