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Oct 5, 2024

Saturday, October 5, 2024, David P. Williams

Saturday Themeless by David P. Williams

I was fortunate to blog Dave's first puzzle that was published for the LA Times on May 15, 2021. It was so long ago that Rich Norris was still the editor.

The brilliance of Dave's puzzle is evident when you see the three vertical and three horizontal 11-letter fills in the heart of the puzzle. Subsequently, he had a very low word count of 66. The last horizontal fill is only 51. Across and the last vertical fill is 47. Down

My failure was at MIN_US/_ENTIANS which fills my definition of a Natick. I wrote my grandson (see below), who is a professional jazz musician and getting a Graduate Degree at The University of North Texas, and he immediately knew MINGUS and told me some terrible stories about him.

My Grandson

Across:

1. Street in London home to many medical offices: HARLEY.


7. Charles known as the "Angry Man of Jazz": MINGUS.


13. Cold spells: ICE AGES.

15. Like most drafts: UNSENT - Mentally, I went through several definitions of draft before I arrived at the ones that indicate that you might want review a few times before you hit Send.

16. "Hang on": JUST A SEC.

18. Pose: STANCE.

19. Duck: AVOID.


20. Admit: COP TO - On the other hand...


22. Get some sun: TAN.

23. Get too much sun: BURN - On the other hand...

24. "No kidding!": TRULY.

25. Guinness order: PINT.


26. Ready: SET.


27. Large venue: ARENA.

28. Song birds?: SWANS - Two came to my mind

  



29. Serious scratch: PRETTY PENNY The idiom explained


31. Poutine kin: CHEESE FRIES - You can hold the cheese on my FRIES


Not a big fan below either!


32. Comes full circle?: WRAPS AROUND.

33. Second-most populous urban area of the Tibetan Plateau: LHASA 

LHASA pop. 521,000

Getting from LHASA to Kathmandu takes a WRAP AROUND route.
 

34. Primary rte.?: US ONE - From Ft. Kent, Maine to Key West, Florida


35. Ask sincerely: BEG.

38. A in Kindergarten: EINE - Kindergarten is German so "A" dog is EINE Hund

39. Like some accents: ACUTE.


40. Adidas rival: FILA.


41. Sound of disapproval: TSK.

42. Shorts' lack: KNEES 😀

43. John whose Civil War trilogy was adapted as a miniseries starring Patrick Swayze: JAKES - You'll have to look hard to see John's name in the credit


44. "Don't bother": SKIP IT.

46. Star witness?: SIDEKICK.


48. Moderate: GENTLE.

49. International understanding: ENTENTE - The most famous/infamous one?


50. Instruments that are difficult to donate, ironically: ORGANS - Now that is a great observation!

51. Help: ASSIST.


Down:

1. Garments similar to mantillas: HIJABS.

 



2. Contacts company: ACUVUE.


3. Sandals, e.g.: RESORT.


4. Mass medium: LATIN - The Catholic Church changed from being all in LATIN just before we got married over 60 years ago. Some LATIN phrases are used during the liturgical year. 


5. "Zounds!": EGAD.

6. Pitcher's aim?: YES - Not a baseball pitcher or a water pitcher. This pitcher is a salesman.


7. Dank: MUSTY.

8. Digging: INTO - I really got INTO Dave's puzzle

9. PRISM org.: NSA.


10. Plants whose roots flavor angostura bitters and Aperol: GENTIANS 
Angostura bitters  is a concentrated bitters (herbal alcoholic preparation) based on gentian, herbs, and spices, produced by House of Angostura in Trinidad and Tobago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


11. Eerie: UNCANNY - Just some of the eerie comparisons

12. Surgical tubes: STENTS.

14. Ingredient omitted from a recipe, perhaps: SECRET SAUCE - There's some things they won't tell you. 😀

17. Retaliates, in a way: COUNTERSUES - The man on the right sued Taylor Swift for $3M saying she got him fired, but he lost the suit. Taylor countersued for $1 for assault which he is doing in this picture and won that suit.


21. Do some sole searching: PLAY FOOTSIE - I know Irish will like this version


24. Arborist's concerns: TREES - After living on the treeless prairie, Nebraskan J. Sterling Morton proposed Arbor Day to support planting trees.


Very early Lincoln, NE 

25. Trounced, as a n00b: PWNED The word "pwned" has origins in video game culture and is a leetspeak derivation of the word "owned", due to the proximity of the "o" and "p" keys. It's typically used to imply that someone has been controlled or compromised ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


27. Corncake that may be filled with queso: AREPA.


28. One making bank in Paris?: SEINE - I'm going out on a limb to say I'll bet you understand this 
picture  


29. Moon unit: PHASE.

30. Dried plum: PRUNE.


31. Revolutionary activity?: CRANKING - Success!


32. Hair of the dog: WHISKER 😊

33. "It's that time": LET'S GO.

35. Midriff-baring suit: BIKINI.



36. Chooses: ELECTS - Carol Blood is running against Mike Flood in our 1st District Congressional race.

A clever sign!

37. Flood insurance?: GASKET - Given enough time...


39. They're paid to play: ANTES.

40. Mountebanks: FAKES Derivation


42. Brick oven: KILN.

43. Takes off: JETS.

45. Org. that publishes Our Children magazine: PTA.


47. Father figurer: DNA.



24 comments:

Subgenius said...

One of the hardest things for me to get was one across and one down. And I still say “ Pwned” is not a word, no matter how many times I see it.
Anyway, after BST* I managed to solve this insanely difficult puzzle. FIR, so I’m happy.

*Blood, sweat, and tears

TTP said...

Thank you, David P. Williams, and thank you, Husker Gary.

A neat looking grid. Looked like op art, and also reminded me of a pinwheel.

I TRULY enjoyed this puzzle.   It took quite a bit of concentration, a bit of "outside of the box" thinking, and a few good (aka lucky) guesses.   I like tough puzzles.  

But in the end, I must COP TO one bad cell.   I had no idea for either the "Angry man of jazz", and the "Plants whose roots are used to flavor angostura".   All of the other letters in those two answers perped in, but not the G.   I was guessing that it would be a C, a D or a K.   It was my last letter to fill, and I went with the C.

    When I opened the review, I read that HG had the same singular bad cell).   I an in good company.     :-)

The J in JAKES and JETS was a good guess, and my penultimate fill.   I first thought it might need a G in that position, but decided to go with that J as it seemed more likely.

I liked many clues today, but especially Songs birds for SWANS and Flood insurance for GASKET.

There's our friend AREPA again.   I thought about getting one on Thursday.   I looked at the menu online before I headed in that direction on another errand.   They're huge.   $14.60 for the Arepa Llanera. Grilled beef with mano cheese and avocado, pico de gallo. / Con queso de mano y aguacate, pico de gallo.

waiT A SEC to JUST A SEC
droP IT to StoP IT to SKIP IT.
WHISKEy to WHISKER.
Asian to ACUTE.
Sit for to STANCE.

HG, my great-grand-niece recently graduated from UNT.   Then got married.   And now is with child, so there's going to be another great added to that string.

Also, Aitch Gee, I came across a website that I think you will enjoy.   https://www.visualcapitalist.com/

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

At first glance I was ready to give this one a pass. At second glance, I should have. My experience was very similar to TTP's. Didn't care for PWNED. At the end I still had two blank cells -- the NG of MINGUS. Bzzzzzt. Thanx, David and Husker.

ORGANS: I learned recently that I'm too old to receive an organ (not surprised) and too old to donate one (surprised).

Anonymous said...

TTP @5:32 Speaking of the grid shape, this constructor’s shtick is that he (apparently) only makes themelesses with the exact same layout as today’s. He has a bunch in the NYT, though I managed to find a LAT themeless of his with a different black square pattern.

FUSTY is a word that, guess what, has a very similar meaning to MUSTY. Also, there’s no UNTO in the grid. Which means that FUNGUS would’ve been a better fill choice for 7A, no Natick with GENTIANS.

BobB said...

10D Gentians. If you ever drank a bottle of Moxie, you know what gentian root tastes like, very bitter. Moxie is the official soft drink of Maine. I hated it as a kid but have grown to like it as I got older. Moxie is a Coca Cola product and the new formula is sweeter and less bitter than the 1950s version

Anonymous said...

…and by “managed to find” I mean that I didn’t even notice that HG linked it at the start of the post.

Anonymous said...

Took 17:16 today for me to ... luckily guess correctly at the intersection of the angry jazz musician and the plant. That's a Natick.

I didn't know Jakes or Harley, and I know this guy who hates stumbling at 1A....
I disliked the clues for USOne, Latin, & gasket -- poor attempts at putting cutesy ahead of accuracy.

Originally, I had cheese curds, but they later gave way to fries.

Anonymous said...

One correction to the explanation of 38 across -- dog in German is a masculine noun so "ein Hund". Cat, a feminine noun, would be a better choice "eine Katze"

Big Easy said...

Unlike Gary I knew Charles MINGUS- I used to read Downbeat Magazine. But like Subgenius, HARLEY was all perps and the last word I filled this morning. I made some lucky guesses after just a few perps-PRETTY PENNY, CHEESE FRIES, PLAY FOOTSIE.

JAKES, SIDEKICK (made no sense to me until OJ's photo),HIJABS, YES, NSA, PWNED, GENTIANS- dnk as clued. I'd never heard of JAKES and it took an ABC run to get JETS for "takes off".
EINE- I noticed the capital K and in German all nouns are capitalized.

PHASE for 'Moon unit'? My first thought was Moon Unit ZAPPA, daughter of Frank Zappa.

YooperPhil said...

Took me 53:39 for the FIR w/out help, but it did take one walkaway to clear my head. The west filled fairly fast, the east not so much. In the end I was left with five blanks which I somehow was able to WAG correctly on first try, the H, Y, N and G in the top row, and the J in the SE. Like HG, my first two thoughts of a “draft” definition were wrong, as was my thought for Sandals. How is PWNED pronounced? I wear ACUVUE contacts but that still required perps. Whiskey can also be the hair of the dog to someone who’s hungover. CSO to Splynter with ORGANS. Thank you David for what I consider an outstanding, challenging Saturday puzzle!


HG ~ always enjoy your stellar reviews, thank you for your efforts!

Tehachapi Ken said...

This was an impressive construction job on the part of David. The entire center is devoid of black squares, with six 11-letter clues crossing each other. And not one of the six is gibberish or gimmicky.

As a Shakespearean, I note the reappearance of "zounds," which is short for "God's wounds" (referring to Jesus on the cross). Often you see it in one of Shakespeare's plays as "swounds." Either way, it was seen as a naughty word back in the day, and often excised.

I see that the the honor for the clue for the 11-letter horizontal in the dead center of the puzzle goes to "Poutine kin." I will let CanadianEh weigh in here. I will just mention that poutine is considered as something of a national dish of Canada, a combination of fries, cheese curds, and gravy. Many find it unpalatable, but I actually like it. Of course, I am also fond of creamed chipped beef.

As a sports nut, I love Saturdays in the fall because of college football. And now we've also got the baseball playoffs with a full slate of the Division Series today. I will nonetheless try to get back here with more observations on David's impressive puzzle.

billocohoes said...

In Catch-22, Doc's corpsmen painted everyone's gums with GENTIAN Violet.

Tried Charlie "Bird" Parker before I thought of MINGUS.

BTW, the "Kyrie Eleison" chant were the only Greek words in the Latin Mass.

KS said...

FIW. Never heard of pwned, and am at a loss to understand it even with the explanation. Yuk!
Add to that that I didn't know Mingus, and I went astray in the NE.
This was a real workout, even for a Saturday, and not my most favorite puzzle.

Anonymous said...

Finally finished this very interesting puzzle with help. Some very clever clueing at SEINE, CRANKING, KNEES, and SWANS. Is GEBTLE less than moderate? Is a (SECRET) SAUCE an ingredient?

Misspelled HIJAB, so ICE AGE took some time. HARLEY Street was a given from watching all those PBS Masterpiece Theatre shows. The only place to go to a doctor in London, so it seems.

Anonymous said...

To continue, AREPA not remembered and PWNED? GENTIANS are common in the forests of WV.

Charles MINGUS, musician, composer, band leader, is considered a giant in the jazz world, alongside Louie Armstrong, Miles Davis, Dave Brubeck, Ella Fitzgerald. and others. He had severe mental health issues that explained some of his behavior. He spent time voluntarily in a hospital, seeking help. His wife Sue, accomplished in her own right, often kept him on an even keel. Sue continued his various band, both here and abroad, for many years after his death.

Happy day, all! Parsan

Sophia said...

I like the puzzle, and the blog. Thx❣️ I didn’t know pwned (but it had to be pint and swan!), nor Fila and failed to suss out fakes 🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️. When I was a kid (1950s) I got “swimmer’s ear” one summer; our doc treated it w “gentian violet” drops - my ear/cheek were purple-stained for a week.

RustyBrain said...

Didn't know 1A, and that's not an auspicious way to start! Guessed HARPER instead. The P made PATIN which is used during mass to carry the communion hosts. Made sense (although should be spelled PATEN). The R gave me RES because a pitcher (salesman) might be after a reservation? Justifiable nonsense from a desperate solver without a clue - or rather a clue but no answer!

Charlie Echo said...

Not my cuppa' today. Too cutesy for me. PWNED? Oh, Come on. Really?

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

At first glance, I was not too confident about solving this, but due to the several helpful long entries, the answers appeared almost like magic, as one domino fell and another, and another. The very punchy, lively fill made this an enjoyable exercise, from the Secret Sauce, Countersues, Play Footsie, to the Pretty Penny Cheese Fries! Adding to this cornucopia of fun were the clever clues of Hair of The Dog=Whisker, (YP, I had Whiskey first), Mass Medium=Latin, Revolotionary Activity=Cranking, and Song Birds?=Swans, and others. There were a few off kilter clues that tried too hard and Pwned is an abomination, not a word, but, overall, this is an outstanding puzzle with an impressively low (8) TLW count. Harley and Gentians were perped but I knew Mingus, thanks to a jazz enthusiast (fanatic?) husband.

Thanks, David, for a satisfying yet challenging Saturday stumper and thanks, HG, for the fine review and usual visual eye candy. The footsie-playing kitty made my day! 😉

I was AWOL yesterday because I had no internet. Spectrum came this morning and replaced the modem, so I’m back in business. I was pleasantly surprised by the prompt service.

Have a great day.

Irish Miss said...

I guess Mr. Smarty Pants, Autocorrect, missed correcting Revolutionary.

Monkey said...

A very satisfying puzzle, difficult but doable. I appreciated the lack of pop culture names. I did know MINGUS. I left one letter blank, the W of PWNED and I had one error patin for LATIN, so ended up on the wrong street.

I loved the PLAYING FOOTSIE and the WHISKERS clues, and several others.

Thank you HG for your notes and a picture of your handsome musician grandson.

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