google.com, pub-2774194725043577, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0 L.A.Times Crossword Corner: Saturday, Sep15th, 2012, Jeffrey Wechsler

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Sep 15, 2012

Saturday, Sep15th, 2012, Jeffrey Wechsler

Theme: None

Words: 70

Blocks: 29

This would be Jeffrey's first LAT puzzle, based on the history of the blog - there isn't even a link to his name, so I would say congratulations are in order~!!! (I did find a link to another CW of his, but....). Sadly, I have to concede a DNF (Did Not Finish) this time, as the NW corner was left partially unfilled by my allotted time....ah, well, every now and then I have to have a learning moment. Not a terribly daunting grid, triple stacks of 8's and 9's, and a smattering of 8's and 7's along the way. Some odd parsings;

2D. Confident declaration : I SURE CAN - Can you solve this puzzle in short time? "I SURE CAN'T"

53A. Repulsive : UGLY AS SIN - I can hear my mother saying this when I was a kid; there are some actresses that make me wonder how they got their jobs in front of a camera - want to know who?

12D. Ont. site of a War of 1812 battle : FT. ERIE - When I had F and T, I thought, "no, that can't be right", but then the V-8 can came sailing in....Some history here

36D. Popular burning spot : DVD DRIVE - Dah~! I had "---DRIVE" and couldn't figure out the rest; and the "D" for Cholesterol names, either H-DL or L-DL had to be right, so fooD drive, blooD drive~??? It won't fit ~!!!

Onward....

ACROSS:

1. Twisted : SICK - not BENT; I had the "C" from CAME NEXT, so I tried RACY, too - hey, my mind is SICK and TWISTED and RACY, like the DF types on the blog....

5. Completed : CAPPED OFF - Capped off a great weekend in July with a huge bonfire

14. Virtually done deal? : E-SALE - knew it would be "E" something....

16. Pure as the driven snow : LILY WHITE - you can kiss my lily white 'uglyassin'

17. Light unit : LUMEN - pretty sure it was not WATT(S)

18. Mentalist who failed to bend Johnny Carson's spoons : URI GELLER - before my time, but I was pretty confident this was right

19. Out : FREED - too many options for the term "OUT", so I had to wait on this

20. Rips into : SLAMS - not TEARS or REAMS

21. Go down the wrong path : ERR

22. Brooding sort? : HEN

23. Like some ball gowns : SATINY - my first thought; I didn't fill it in because I thought it was a bit cheesy; then I had S----Y, so....

25. Cheese originally from the department now called Seine-et-Marne : BRIE - not BLEU, but enough to get going

26. Prevented a return from : ACED - ah, tennis; I had ICED because I was thinking along a different line

28. Safari setup : TENT

29. Troubled : BESET - makes me think of this movie quote @1:09 (language~!)

30. Expense account item : TAXI FARE

32. The younger Hardy boy : JOE - the only thing I know about the Hardy Boys was the TV show that was on when I was about 8

33. Involves : ENTAILS

34. Canines : CUSPIDS - crossing 29D. Top dog : BOSS - had me on the wrong wavelength for too long

38. Gov., e,g. : POL - GOVernor and POLitician makes sense

39. Husband : CONSERVE - this is a new definition for me, and it didn't fill in easily

40. Throws in the towel : GIVES - not CEDES

43. Traditional time for hot cross buns : LENT - not YULE - hey, I'm a recovering alcoholic, not a recovering Catholic ( a little AA humor there )

44. Early word : DA-DA

45. Co-star of Hugh on "House" : OMAR - Epps, or "Foreman"; I was just watching some HOUSE yesterday; there are some episodes where I just can't tolerate House....Theme song

46. One who got plenty of sack time in Rome? : VANDAL - OK, I cheated - I went to Google to see who had a name with second letter -A- and ended -L; didn't find "a" name, but a group

48. Crestor target, for short : LDL

49. Acct. entry : BALance

50. Green sauce : PESTO

51. One may be seen from a box : OPERA

55. "Good __": 1966 #1 song : LOVIN'

56. "Evidently ..." : SEEMS TO ME - makes me think of this song

57. Energetic : ALIVE

58. Locke pieces : TREATISES

59. Candy machine input : ONES - DAMN~!! Candy has gotten expensive~! I tried DIME, COIN and CENT

DOWN:

1. Therapist's challenge : SELF-HATE - just couldn't figure this out; I had the ----HATE part, but was looking for psychological term, not a hyphen phrase

3. Ensued : CAME NEXT

4. Bauhaus school teacher : KLEE - more here

5. Many flowers grow in them : CLUSTERS - Considered GUTTERS, even though I needed one more letter; the church where I am working now has plant life growing in the gutters

6. High overhead business? : AIRLINE - I had WIRE--- to start, since here on LI there is a 'backbone' of high wire transmission lines that runs right through the UPS grounds where I work

7. Supple : PLIANT

8. __ hippo : PYGMY



9. Lea grazers : EWES - Ewww~~!! That picture is UGLY ASS IN

10. FedEx rival : DHL - meh, I have gotten a DHL package once; it always fascinates me when a FedEx or DHL package comes down my slide. Plus, the work van I bought was once an Airborne Express courier

11. Four-time 1980s Stanley Cup champs : OILERS - with the "Great One", Wayne Gretzky. They won one more in 1990. Yes, eddyB, today (well, tomorrow AM) is the day we learn about our hockey future

13. Bring to light, with "out" : FERRET

15. Purposes : ENDS

24. Whatsoever : AT ALL

25. Emitted a backup signal? : BEEPED - not really sure the "?" is needed

27. Bum wrap : DIAPER - har har har

31. Verizon communications service : FiOS - Their Fiber Optic service

32. Interim ruling group : JUNTA

34. Backs up : CONDONES - yeah, I get it, but my mind was stuck on burning a 'back-up' to DVD

35. "Deathtrap" playwright : IRA LEVIN

37. Cruise routes : SEA LANES

39. Haitian coin : CENTIME

40. Fail : GO BUST

41. Satellite's eye : IMAGER

42. Crooner Rudy : VALLEE - new to me; more here

43. They may be seen around calves : LASSOS - not these - c'mon, you should know me by now....

46. "__ la giubba": "Pagliacci" aria : VESTI - filled via Perps

47. 1970 Kinks classic : LOLA - someone else can link; I can't stand the tune

50. Over : PAST

52. Game with four-person teams : POLO - Four horses, too, I hope

54. Sumac of song : YMA - Learned from crosswords

Answer grid.

Splynter

69 comments:

eddyB said...

Morning. Can't sleep.

Didn't think it whould take this long to recover from a heart attack.

Gee, another NHL c/a. If there is a lockout, support your local AHL
team. Orr and Gretzky say it will be a short stoppage.

Waiting for Chickie to advise status on DVDs.

Last Izod race of season from Fontana today.

For Bay Area folks, pottery sale at BHC next weekend. Where is Warren? Take care.

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

Have to agree with Splynter here. Tough puzzle overall, but the NW corner did me in and I had to resort to red letter help to get through it. Had WENT NEXT instead of CAME NEXT, had AIMS (and then USES) instead of ENDS, had YES WE CAN instead of I SURE CAN, couldn't think of FREED or KLEE and my brain refused to even entertain the possibility of ESALE.

Elsewhere, it was just a matter of going over the grid again and again (and again and again and again...) I finally got CONDONES simply because there wasn't anything else it could be once I got C_NDONES.

On the bright side, I got URI GELLER right away which helped immensely in the NE corner...

Barry G. said...

Oh -- and welcome back, eddyB! Glad to see you're back at it.

desper-otto said...

Good morning, y'all.

Tough, tough, tough. I felt a dreaded DNF coming on, but little by little, bit by bit, I finally conquered this bad boy. Solving time was OK also.

Loved your comment for LILY WHITE, Splynter. JOE Hardy was a gimme. I read every one of those F.W. Dixon books. I looked at OILERS in astonishment. I didn't think Houston ever won anything. Oh, not those OILERS.

The SW gave me the most grief. VALLEE was another gimme, but I stuck with CAMERA far too long. UGLY AS SIN finally convinced me to try something else.

I'm no gambler, but I'm off to Coushatta (Louisiana casino) today. Our civic club needs 40 SOB's (souls on board) for their fund-raiser bus trip, and I told them I'd go if they were going to come up one short. Wouldn't you know it? DW's still in Deutschland, so it'll be something to do.

Dennis said...

I hate Jeffrey Wechsler.

Seldom Seen said...

Gave up and went to you tube.

Alternate SEEMS TO ME song.

47 degrees outside. I love this time of year!

PK said...

Hi Y'all, Another sadistic Saturday puzzle! My sentiments exactly, Dennis! Or somebody hates us. Thanks for your struggle, Splynter. This puzzle is SICK!

EddyB: glad to hear from you. I was worried about you. Did you have another episode or are you just recovering from earlier?

First time through I got ERR, HEN, SATINs, TENT, JOE, BEEPED and DADA. Then I was permanently stuck. Anything else I put in had to be erased after I resorted to coming for Splynter's help.

When I get into a puzzle with so many unknowns, my brain refuses to spit out the answers I should know. "..seen around calves"? I put "ankles". I was thinking "eyeteeth" for canines which didn't fit. Had "stage" instead of OPERA.

My mother loved Rudy Vallee. Why couldn't I get that?

PK said...

Seen, thanks for the music. Brightened my spirits.

Anonymous said...

What is a DNF?

On Safari said...

Lions and Hippos.

Spitzboov said...

Good morning everyone. Thanks for the comments, Splynter.

Good Saturday workout. Lots of mis-direction or lesser used alternate meanings. 4d - KLEE; firs thought of 'Mies van der Rohe' but perps settled that. Thought of some alternate spelling for 'Attila' before settling on VANDAL. Wagged URI GELLER and BRIE sounded like a good guess. DVD DRIVE was a challenging parse. I think of a SEA LANE as a route segment, not a route in and of itself.

FT. ERIE was a gimme. It and Buffalo are within sight of each other across the entrance to the Niagara river. We passed through there frequently when we lived in western NY.

Welcome aboard, Jean.

Enjoy your weekend.

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

DNF = Did Not Finish

Anonymous said...

Speaking of "assin"...I went some place with a friend and every time I stood...said friend would pull my shirt down in back and would say, "just covering your ass-ets!"

Husker Gary said...

FI_S/P_L crossing is my one questionable cell and I’ll see how it works out – I guessed an O. Eraser and brain got a workout in this pleasing puzzle. NW was a mess but worked itself out.

Musings
-EMAIL, EMALL, EDEAL, ETAIL, nope
-Light unit was not OUNCE either, I had reams and tears for SLAMS too, BESET not upset, GIVES not caves, PESTO not aioli, EWES not does,
-Con/show men like Geller don’t get it done in real time
-Liked cluing for ACED, VANDAL, DIAPER
-I read every Hardy Boys book in our small town library
-OMG, my O was right!
-I have heard of HUSBANDing resources
-Yup, I remember penny candy machines
-I put screens over MIL’s gutters to prevent vegetation growing there and my having to climb up there
-Some of those cruise SEA LANES are rife with pirates
-Oregon trail was littered with Oregon or BUST ambitions who wound with the latter and not the former. Some settled here.
-Thanks for those calves Splynter. It supplemented my coffee!
-Gotta mow before the Husker game.

Anonymous said...

"Santiny" is weak.

Otherwise a fair, challenging and humbling puzzle.

Anonymous said...

"Satiny"...

sorry

CrossEyedDave said...

It always amazes me how simple the answers are "after the fact." While i was trying to do this puzzle, all manner of absurdities arose...
1A twisted (bent?)
44A early word (dawn?)
50A Green sauce (salsa, verde, nuts, once you mention food i can't concentrate.)
15D purposes (uses?)
16a I did not like the clue because LilyWhite reminds me of scared as a ghost.
26A rips into (tears?)
5A completed = capped off, i would have preferred sealed as the clue.
43D they may be seen around calves (udders?) darn those old CW's just keep coming back to haunt me!

& the absurdity that made me give up? 25A emitted a backup signal? (why did farted have to fit perfectly?)

TTP said...

Like Desper-Otto, I finally conquered it, albeit with red letter help. Not in good time though. About an hour and a half. 17 Across words pretty quickly on the first pass, and filled in most of the top half and middle in fairly good time. Tough puzzle.

ToPPEDOFF was incorrect,and couldn't get down with the TO and the perp letters from the acrosses until AIRLINE finally appeared. So CAPPEDOFF... 39A Some favorites: Husband = CONSERVE, 27D Bum wrap = DIAPER,
26A clue for ACED, 43D clue for LASSOS. I was thinking mothers, parents eg cattle, whales...

SE corner was my Achilles. Had everything but 40, 41 and 42 Down by then, and every time I looked at Locke pieces, I kept thinking of Sandra Locke. Locke pieces...Piece of Locke...

Anonymous said...

A Saturday Silkie in disguise. Crashed and burned on this one. Look forward to more of Mr. Wechsler's constructions.

TTP said...

Splynter, thanks for the write up ! 56A SEEMS TO ME makes me think of this song, even though I've seen SEEN already posted the live version: James Gang - Walk Away Studio Version.

What does DF mean ? Dear Friend ? Dumb Fool ? Data Frame ? Disk Free ? No, not the last two.

Every time I see Green Sauce (50A c) I want verde. Not suiza. Salsa verde. Seems it's always PESTO and I blank on that for awhile.

Eddy, don't get down. Positive Mental Attitude. I didn't know you were in San Jose. Not a Sharks fan ?

Yellowrocks said...

I did not post yesterday. We had an electrical failure all morning and in the PM I had my computer serviced. That problem was solved but now the sound bleats like a goat, not good for music, movies, youtube, etc. It says, You have Maaaaaaaaail.

Yesterday's puzzle was a treasure and a pleasure, Marti,as was Lemony's blog which sparkled. The sparkle rubbed off on all our witty posters.

As for today, WEES. DNF without help. I got stuck in the NE, too.
Satiny did not bother me. The gown was like satin, but not made of satin. I have to admit that many of my hangups were legitimate clues.

Misty said...

Well, DNF for me too, although that's no surprise for a Saturday, and it was the SW--not the NW--that gave me the most trouble. But since I've resigned myself to having to cheat on Saturdays, I actually enjoyed a lot of this one--so welcome and thanks, Jeffrey. And that is one cute hippo, Splynter.

Bon Courage, Eddy B. We're thinking of you.

Have a great weekend, everybody!

Irish Miss said...

Good morning:

On the first pass, I thought this was going to be a hair-puller, teeth-gnasher doozie. But with patience, perps, and perseverance, I did finish w/o help, but I didn't break any speed records.

Liked the clues for diaper, aced, and cuspids, which, at first, I confidently put in puppies! Nice challenge, JW, and good expo, Splynter.

Have a great Saturday.

Anonymous said...

Good afternoon everyone.

Welcome back, Eddy B. and best wishes for your continued recovery.

DNF. Didn't even come close. Dennis said it best.

TTP: DNF means did not finish

Off to lunch at Steak and Shake. Yum

Cheers

CrossEyedDave said...

For those of you too young to remember Uri Geller, this documentary (13:00) needs to be seen before the next snake oil salesman appears.

TTP, the last time some one asked what "DF" meant, i responded, "if they are talking about you, it means dear friend, if they are talking about some one else, it means dysfunctional.) & just about all the regulars jumped in to set the story straight. some day i hope to be as mature as they are...

Manac, i forgot to mention the beer commercial a couple of days ago! Yes, you are right, i can't help myself! i love it! I sent copies to every friend i knew that would appreciate it, & a copy to my neighbor, who alway's deletes my emails before looking at them. I told him if he deleted this one, i would kick him in the shins!

which reminds me, it's time to check if he watched it... (boy i hope he deleted it!)

Barbie said...

Barry G: you made me feel a little better! The only part I did get was the NW corner.....gave up after an hour!

Barbie said...

CrossEyedDave: beer commercial? Which one?

TTP said...

OOPS, I obviously meant SW corner was my Achilles.

CED, thanks for DF def. I'll pick based on context. :)

YR, good luck. Hope it's simple.

Doing some indoor chores while the Buckeyes are on. Then have an appointment with John Deere and that part of my yard that's still growing.

Anonymous said...

Clicked on 29 Movie Quote and got an ad for Romney. I can handle profanity but not politics.

Tinbeni said...

Splynter: Great write-up & links.
Well that about sums-up the nice things I can say about this offering.

My INK-BLOT is UGLY-AS-SIN. A bit on the DF side.

DNF, not even close.
Was never coming off my lea COWS (oh, they're EWES) or UPS (ugh, it's DHL).

At least I got the sports: OILERS & POLO.
LOLA, VANDAL, OPERA & VALLEE were gimmies.
Plus YMA that I learned from crosswords.

Learning moment (from the write-up, 'cause I had nothin' there in the NW) KLEE.

The Sun must be setting somewhere ... sooooooo, Cheers!!!

Anonymous said...

Quite new at this. Am I really ignorant? Did all of you know the clue "husband" resulted in "converse"?

Anonymous said...

Ouch. Somehow managed to finish offline without assistance, although definitely not a speed solve.

Had the most grief with the area around diaper, reading the clue as "burn" wrap rather than bum wrap. Salve? Too short. Salves? Not plural. Salver? No. Unguent? Too long. Must remember to watch out for r + n vs. m confusion in the future. I bet the tight letter kerning in clues is intentionally misdirectional.

Other sticky points of note for me, and my solution evolution: Like some ball gowns > sashed? sateen? > satiny

Many flowers grow in them > seedbeds? > pots - clay pots - containers - planters? > clusters

Cheese... > Bleu? > Blue? (bad!) > Brie

rips into > tears? > abase? > slams

throws in the towel > quits? > gives

Haitian coin > 1st wag = pes(s)et(t)a, being unsure of exact spelling. Then rememebered the French rather than Spanish connection to Haiti, so wagged centime after a few other letters began to fall.

One who got plenty of sack time in Rome: 1st guess: Attila. Then thought along lines of Ceasar's wife to no avail. Finally Vandal.

Thanks for the mental workout JW!

CrossEyedDave said...

Barbie @12:09

Great links need to be reposted from time to time.

Manac's great beer commercial

&^$&%&)_)_ funny!

Tinbeni said...

Anon @1:17
I didn't know "Husband" resulted in "CONSERVE" either. lol

Anonymous said...

LOL, Anon at 1:17. But really, Husband > conserve.

Jayce said...

Hello everybody. Well, quite a grid! Every Saturday I look at the grid and think, "Dang, sure is a lot of white space!" I should have learned by now not to be intimidated by it; heck, I love stacks of long fill. Some had interesting sequences of letters, such as DVDDRIVE and the UGLYASSIN that amused Splynter so much.

Irish Miss, I (over)confidently entered PUPPIES too! And PLANTERS. And BENT. And ATTILA. And SATEEN. And VERDE. At least I got DIAPER right, and VESTI was a gimme (making me erase ATTILA and want VISIGOTH instead.)

I thought TREATISES was awesome, and filled it as soon as I got the A in YMA, which was another gimme. I knew who URI GELLER was but could not think of his name; having PLANTERS and UPS didn't help me remember it, of course.

Some of the clues made me wrinkle my nose like Marti does, but overall I found it to be a worthy challenge.

Best wishes to you all.

CrossEyedDave said...

Just like crosswords, you win some, you lose some...

This win/fail compilation is rather long at (9:20) but some have to be seen to be believed. (especially the "icy" ones)

Note: some require a 2nd look, like the guys firing M16's off the boat, a 2nd look reveals that some of the hot shell casings went down the back of the other guys shirt!

Jayce said...

My BIL majored in animal husbandry and currently runs a small farm/ranch husbanding a few milk cows and sheep. I always felt the word meant more like nurture, take care of, raise, but I suppose conserve (which I wrinkled my nose at) could conceivably be allowed into my mental Thesaurus.

The same thing with cluing CONDONES as "Backs up." I suppose "backs up" could, by stretching it, also accompany overlooks, excuses, goes along with, looks the other way, supports, and winks at in my mental Thesaurus, too. [nose wrinkle]

Maybe those clues can be "condoned" because of the presence of excellent clues such as "Brooding sort" and "Popular burning spot."

Jayce said...

You want sadistic puzzles? Try the harder NYT puzzles. Those suckers *are* twisted and sick. Of course, y'all know that's how I feel about many of the NYT xwords, because I've said it before, too many times, in fact.

Bill G. said...

Hi everybody. I hope things continue to go well eddyB. I have nothing much new to add but that never seems to stop most of us. I'm very envious of Seen's weather for a change. It's about 90 here and I don't like it a bit. I too read every Hardy Boys book I could find. Apparently they have updated them to include stuff like computers and cell phones. I hope they didn't ruin them in the process.

Mentalists like Uri Geller and his ilk really ruffled my feathers. I didn't mind if they came across as magicians and tricked me. But when they asserted that they were doing their stuff with their minds, then I developed an immediate skeptical dislike for them. I was glad to see him get embarrassed on Johnny Carson.

Anonymous said...

Re anon 2:02pm et al disgust with today's offering:

Sorry, I beg to differ. Misdirection, word play, tangential thought have long been the name of the game in late week both LA & NY Times puzzles, and some of us aren't so put off by a certain looseness between clue and answer. Yes, they require perseverance and some outside-the-box thinking to do well on them. Not to mention having a wealth of trivia to draw upon. I find in the LA Times x-words, it helps to bear in mind that the longer answers tend to favor short word strings over the more impressive single long word.

If this kind of puzzle repels you, then maybe you should switch over to a more straightforward commuter style x-word later in the week.

Yellowrocks said...

ANON 3:21 Amen. My thoughts exactly. Even when I flub the answer, I enjoy the quest and mental gymnastics. When I miss one I always research it to learn more. The reweard is better luck next time. I find straight forward, obvious synonyms boring.

Husband as a verb is much different from husband as a noun. From many dictionaries:
To use sparingly or economically; conserve: husband one's energy.

Anonymous said...

slowly but surely knocked this one off. Got stuck for a long time on Gov. clue putting url in and didn't know the perps like Verizon service.

Anonymous said...

Saturday's puzzle always takes me just about all day to finish. Got stumped on out=freed and pygmy hippo - put down angry hippo; but wait that's angry bird not hippo. And then the flower clue - shutters? no clusters - doh! Know husbandry is conservation so that pretty much fell into place. Tough one today!

eddyB said...

PK. One was enough. This happened when I was in the hospital with a
4 inch gash in my scalp from when I fell. Wt dropped to 138 lbs.

Also have a house guest this weekend. Hope she likes German food because that is what I am cooking.

Killed a bottle of Macallan while listening to Norah Jones last night.

Take care.

Manac said...

Afternoon All, This one kicked my butt! I swear, all I could think of for Husband was punchbag!
CED, i still had to click on that link today and still LMAO!
Jeffrey, If your out there reading all this then Welcome

Avg Joe said...

Funny Manac. I was thinking douchebag. Still, liked the clue and answer.

Late to the party today. Had computer issues earlier, then had an appointment with 86,000 other folks. Actually liked the puzzle, but FIW by answering Seems to be instead of Seems to me. The brain and the eraser got a serious workout today.

Bill G. said...

It is damn hot here today. The AC in my car feels good. I remember that, about 15 years ago, they outlawed the old freon that was bad for the ozone layer and replaced it with a new formulation. The AC in my old Camry (93) seems to get cold quicker and colder than my almost new Camry. Is that because of the different coolant?

Lemonade714 said...

Welcome Jeffrey Wechsler, you certainly gave the corner a real workout.

There are a number of budlight and dortios commercials that never aired that are hilarious, but thank you Manac and CED for this one. I aodred when the receptionist said, "Douche bag on line three." as that is so descriptive of many of the calls I receive.

I have heard of husbanding energy and assets at some point in my life, but I do not recall f it was in life or books.

Monday is just around the corner, and we all learned stuff today, so we are all happy, right?

Manac said...

Bill, Damn! if you got a 93 auto with the ac still working you are truly lucky. I'm no mechanic but I think a 93 auto could have either the old R-12 refridgerant or the R-134a type.
That was the transition time. R-12 is still available for older vehicles but at a price! Either way my truck likes to blow hot air at me ( the driver) and ice cold air at the passenger. What did I ever do to it to Piss it off?

PK said...

Some of you are right, I'm a cranky old woman who shouldn't try to do Saturday puzzles. I tried this one with only 3 hrs. of sleep in 24 hours. I had been sitting around during time I normally can sleep, waiting for people to show up to help me with stuff I would really rather not have to do--hours or days after the appointed time.

What I probably shouldn't do is post in that condition.

However, don't you sometimes feel that a constructor is sitting at home laughing and rubbing his hands, chanting, "Ya Ya Ya Ya, I'm really going to get 'em with this. Ya ha ha ha! I know this and they don't!" ???

Now that I've had 8 hours of sleep and in better humor, I still think the puzzle is sadistic. But if I had any pride I wouldn't say so. LOL

Manac said...

OK off topic now. Someone just tried to scam me with an ad I posted on craigslist. They asked if it was still for sale and my only reply was yes. Their reply.. I'll buy it, cancel your ad, I'll send a cashier's check tomorrow. Send me all this info. How F@$&ing stupid do they think people are? They didn't even know how much I was selling. It was word for word CL's warnings about scams. Posted there many times but this was a first.

Bill G. said...

Manac, since I've never used Craig's List, explain how the scam works please. What's their angle?

Avg Joe said...

Been there, done that Manac. Craig's list it wonderful, but caution is always advised. I've even gotten messages about supposed CL ads that clearly came from the blog. Trolls are apparently trying to sell lists of active email addresses, and will resort to almost any tactic.

On another topic, here's just a wee peek inside my sick mind and what I'm listening to this evening: Sing Me a Rainbow.

Manac said...

Bill, glad to see your still awake this late at night, ha,ha. There are many versions of the scam but the more (I'm at a lost for words here ) popular? used? successful? is the one where they send you a check for more than what you are asking for and then ask you to send them back the difference. The check looks real that the bank accepts it and by the time the bank realizes it it fake you are responsible for the $ drawn on it including what you sent back to the scammer. There are so many other variables to it that you just have to keep your eyes open.Like they say Deal Local

Dudley said...

Hello Puzzlers -

Gone all day, not much time for this Saturday slog, was deep into DNF territory. Got maybe a third filled in before I decided it just wasn't fun.

Just tried accessing the Sunday puzz from Cruciverb, and once again there is a glitch, it's returning a puzzle file from last month. Cruciverb, what is your problem?

Irish Miss said...

Dudley @ 8:31 ~ I'm having the same problem with Cruciverb. Ever since the last so-called upgrade, I have had problems. It is very annoying, to say the least.

Manac said...

Bill, This was the response to me.
Would you trust this? Thanks for the prompt response to my mail. I will be buying from you
so please kindly withdraw the advert from C.LIST to avoid
disturbance. Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified
check from my Bank it will be delivered to you via United Parcel
Service (UPS) or FedEx , so I'll need you to provide me with the
following information to facilitate the mailing of the check...

1.....Full name to write on the check
2.....Full Physical address to post the check
3.....City, State and Zip Code
4.....Home & Cell Phone to contact you

I will make arrangements for the pick up as soon as you have your
money I am completely satisfied with the advert and the payment will
be delivered within 24hours.** I use a hearing impaired phone # and
will receive your calls via email **

N.B UPS/FedEx does not deliver to a P.O box addresses.Thanks
He, She or It didn't even know what I was selling!

Irish Miss said...

Sorry, that should be Dudley @ 9:53.

Bill G. said...

Manac, yep, I'm still here and will be for another three hours or so. Sounds like good advice to avoid dealing with the few crooks waiting in the shadows. That response would certainly arouse my suspicions.

Years ago I saw a really nice lightning plasma bottle in a bar advertising Smirnoff vodka. I asked the barmaid if she would sell it to me but she said she couldn't. But, she said, she bet I could find the same thing on eBay. I checked when I got home and found several. I ordered the 'Buy it now' one. Works great.

I found an old menu on eBay from my favorite restaurant I had found when I first moved to Manhattan Beach in 1963. Rib eye steaks for $1.99 including salad and a baked potato. Someone else outbid me but the nice lady Xeroxed it for me before she sent it to the winning bidder. I've never tried Craig's List

Anonymous said...

Re possible evil laughter eminating from the halls of our puzzle editors/constructors, and continuation of my 3:21 pm post:

No doubt that is so for some, PK. I imagine it as a kind of a Bwahh hah ha ha ha! After all, some of us have probably heard tell that constructors of newspaper x-words are mostly hoosegow denizens. Otherwise, so the story goes, why so many weekly references to crime in the grids? E.g. words and phrases like gat, heater, perp, rod, gaol, ice, off, and big house...

PK said...

AvJoe: Thanks for the "Sing Me A Rainbow" link. I'd never heard of Dr. Hook, but like his voice.

Anon @10:39: Don't expect too many hoosegow denizens are smart enough or patient enough to construct crosswords. But maybe they learn patience incarcerated.

I meant the evil laughter as a joke since I imagine most wordsmiths are mostly concerned with finding words that fit together and aren't really concerned with the end user's moods or IQ.

Manac said...

Bill, Gnite, Deal with the others in the am

Argyle said...

Clues for word BIGHOUSE

No results were found for BIGHOUSE

Anonymous said...

PK, just clarifying my criminal reference was meant in jest as well, riffing off what had been said.

Oddly enough, this x-word history briefly mentions that several prison convicts have indeed served as puzzle constructors:

Margaret Farrar, First Lady of Crosswords

Anonymous said...

Argyle, maybe this is what you seek?

big house

OK, I'm done for the day. Night and pleasant dreams, all!

Argyle said...

Thanks. I see it was an answer in the Washington Post. It has been used in LAT and NYT as a clue so you are correct.

Terms for being drunk are even more plentiful so does that mean our constructors are drinkers? (don't answer that.)

Abejo said...

Good morning, folks, Sunday morning. Thank you Jeffrey Wechsler, for one tough puzzle. Thank you, Splynter, for the review.

I never finished this until Sunday morning. It was a bear. My big hangup was the NW corner.

I won't continue with a lot of comments since it is a day late and I want to get started on Sunday's puzzle.

See you later today.

Abejo

Anonymous said...

What crossword is this mine on Sunday is anagrammys la times