Aug 24, 2008

Sunday August 24, 2008 Edgar Fontaine

Theme: Chick Flicks

24A: Diane Keaton title role: ANNIE HALL

46A: Dorothy Dandridge title role: CARMEN JONES

69A: Kirsten Dunst title role: MARIE ANTOINETTE

95A: Barbara Stanwyck title role: ANNIE OAKLEY

118A: Ingrid Bergman title role: ANASTASIA

3D: Rosalind Russell tittle role: AUNTIE MAMA

9D: Cate Blanchett title role: ELIZABETH

15D: Shirley MacLaine title role: IRMA LA DOUCE

69D: Julie Andres title role: MARY POPPINS

78D: Greer Garson title role: MRS. MINIVER

84D: Ingrid Bergman title role: JOAN OF ARC

I like the theme, very ambitious. All the theme entries except ANASTASIA (118A: Ingrid Bergman title role) look great to me.

I am annoyed at ANASTASIA not only because because we already have one Bergman movie (84D), but the crossing of ANASTASIA with RALE (112D: Last breath) corner is extremely irksome. 4 RALE/RALES in one week? Unbelievable!

This is where the editorial creativity is sorely needed, as I am sure the constructor was not aware of the RALE(S) binge we've had. After reading the news clip on Madonna's "Sticky and Sweet" tour this morning, I thought of her title role EVITA, but it's too short. And QUEEN VICTORIA (Judi Dench in "Mrs. Brown") is not a title role, and it's too long. What movie title can you think of? It has to be a 9-letter word.

Crossword constructing is so hard. I really have huge respect for those guys, even if I often criticize their work. But my complaints are "For Love of the Game".

Lots of entertainment names in the grid, fitting the theme nicely. I had fun googling, no time to fully digest what I had read/linked though.


14A: Zodiac sign: LIBRA. Mine is Cancer. How about your?

19A: Comic Anderson: LOUIE. No, I've never heard of him or his game show "Family Feud".

22A: Bottom deck: ORLOP. I forgot why Clear Ayes mentioned this ORLOP last week.

26A: Stomachs of ruminants: OMASA. Singular is OMASUM. New to me. It's "the third division of the stomach of a ruminant animal". How many stomachs does a ruminant animal have? Three?

30A: Precision machinist: DIE MAKER. Boy, I had DOE MAKER for a long time. I wrote down SOLO instead of SOLI for the intersecting 13D: Arias for one.

40A: Fall off the wagon: IMBIBE

42A: Amin's birthplace: UGANDA. Ha, I already forgot where the capital of UGANDA is. Kampala, Kampala, Kampala.

54A: South Carolina river: SANTEE. It's named after the SANTEE tribe. Here is the map. New river to me.

57A: Womanizer: TOMCAT. I just learned that TOMCAT can be a verb too.

60A: Mother of Apollo: LETO. And the "Swan lover" is LEDA (or the "Mythical queen of Sparta").

64A: Louis and Carrie: NYES. I know neither of them, though I do remember "a NYE/NIDE of peasants".

73A: Fire opal: GIRASOL. New to me.

93A: Intermittently windy: GUSTY. Really? "Intermittenly"? I thought "GUSTY" was continuously blowing hard (This sentence feels weird, correct me if I am wrong).

94A: Ninny: SIMP. So many different words to describe an airhead.

98A: Fed: G-MAN. The FBI guy. Fed can also be T-MAN, the IRS guy.

99A: Egg receptacle: OVISAC. Another new word. It's "a sac or capsule containing an ovum or ova". What a solid made-up word! Reminds me of cruciverbalist.

103A: Patagonia plains: PAMPAS. Look, this lone gaucho seems to enjoy his life on PAMPAS.

114A: Coast of Morocco: RIF. I crossed the River Lethe again on this word. Here is the map. Argyle said "Er RIF" comes from the Berber word arif (The RIF, Er-RIF in Arabic).

115A: Composer Shostakovich: DMITRI. Can you believe I forgot his name again? This is the third time he appeared in our puzzle. Was it a gimmie to you? Do you like his music?

117A: Computer language std.: ASCII. Know the word. Can never remember what the acronym stands for.

124A: Redbone and Russell: LEONS. Interesting. "Stranger on a Stranger's Land". I don't grok what he is singing.

125A: Ancient Chinese poet: LI PO. "Li Bai" in Mandarin Chinese. From the Tang Dynasty (with capital in Xi'An). Here are some lines from his well-known "Drinking Alone by Moonlight": A cup of wine, under the flowering trees; I drink alone, for no friend is near. Raising my cup I beckon the bright moon. For her, with my shadow, will make three men....."

131A: Saint of letters: CYRIL. I've never heard of this saint. Have vaguely heard of the Cyrillic alphabet though.


4D: Time of Nick?: NITE. "Nick at NITE". I've never seen it.

6D: Kiddie spoilers?: GRANDMAS

8D: Dog's first name: RIN. RIN Tin Tin.

17D: Al of the '50s Indians: ROSEN. Couldn't tell whether this card is a real card or a reprint.

25D: Mammalian epoch: EOCENE. I could not believe this is a real word. It looks so wrong. OK, Eos is Greek goddess of dawn. "cene is " means "new", like "recent" I suppose. ECOCENE is "an epoch in which mammals dominant (50 million years ago)."

28D: Like lofty poetry: ODIC. Very interesting how adjectives are formed. For Pindar, it's Pindaric; For Keats, it's Keatsian, not Keatsic.

31D: German Dadaist: ERNST (Max). A surrealist as well. Here is The Elephant Celebes. I am looking forward to seeing ERNST's buddy Paul KLEE next week.

32D: Papeete's location: TAHITI. Got it from the across fills. I had no idea where Papeete is. FYI, Gauguin painted his "Two Women on the Beach" in TAHITI also.

33D: "A Perfect Peace" author: AMOS OZ. Gimme. He knows "How to Cure a Fanatic".

39D: Central Park S. Landmark: NYAC (New York Athletic Club). No idea. I've never been to NY.

41D: Brown in fat: BRAISE. I don't think this clue is wholly accurate. The process of braising needs some liquid for simmering.

44D: Organisms requiring oxygen: AEROBES. AER(O) is air, Obe is from Microbe. Good to learn this stuff.

53D: Multi-deck game: CANASTA . Not a familiar card game to me. I've never play rummy.

56D: Wild pig: WARTHOG. I forgot. So ugly.

79D: Thick soup: POTAGE. I did not know that some POTAGES are made of thickened liquid with mashed FLOWERS/fruit. Sounds so sweet.

80D: Fred of "The Munsters": GWYNNE. I would not have got his name without the crossing fills. It's so hard for me to grasp the popularity of this show and the wide-range (often expensive) collectibles.

83D: Water-to-wine site: CANA. You can find The Wedding at CANA at Louvre.

91D: Share a book project: CO-EDIT

92D: "The Listeners" writer Walter: DE LA MARE. "Is there anybody there...." This is the first time I heard of this poet.

97D: K2 creature?: YETI. I had no idea that K2 is a mountain peak (Karakoram Range in northern Kashmir). And it's the 2nd highest in the world. I am just so used to the "Abominable Snowman" clue.

100D: Traveling bag: VALISE. This Civil War VALISE is so well preserved.

105D: Georgia city: MACON. I forgot. Dennis mentioned this name when we had the MOON PIE long time ago. MACON is nicknamed "Heart of Georgia". Lovely cherry blossom.

107D: Incendiarism: ARSON

115D: Dist. across: DIAM (Diameter). I don't like this clue. "Dist. across" what? A square? Definitely needs a "circle" in the clue.

116D: Somewhat blue: RACY. Van Gogh' somewhat blue (literally) "Starry Night Over the Rhone popped into my mind immediately. He is such a brilliant yet tragic figure. I really like his various paintings on sunflowers, esp those in full bloom. I am so touched by his bold & daring strokes of yellow color, breathtaking. Indeed, Theo, "The sunflower is mine in a way..."

123D: Lowly NCO: CPL. PFC is the lowest NCO, right?



Chris in LA said...

Looks like everyone is sleeping in today - must have stayed up late watching the USA Redeem Team win the gold!
Had to google about half the film roles, but otherwise no major stuggles. Only got stuck in NE corner - orlop & omasa were new to me.
Hope all have a happy Sunday - rainy here (remnants of Fay).

Anonymous said...

Truly enjoyed today's puzzle. Learned a lot of new words such as soli, eocene and ovisac. Usually, I make my comments early and don't come back to the site until the next day, until last Friday while continually checking Fay. Thanks to all whose thoughts were with us. Only 2.5 inches of rain with lots of wind. But, we're safe.@c.c. You would probably enjoy the movie "Auntie Mame" because she definitely was not a "Mama"!ZITS is my favorite comic strip. There's nothing like a teen son!

ALucidDreamUndreamt said...

Hitting the back button removed my comment... How weird?...

I had fun with this one... The toughest one of the week for me.

My zodiac sign is Virgo, year of the Tiger... what does that say about me...?

Louie Anderson has this funny nasal voice i could never get enough of, loved him in Life With Louie

Ruminant animals have 3 stomachs, the rumen, the reticulum, and the psalterium (omasum).

Tomcat sounds funny as a verb... Were you tomcatting last night? hehe funny

Gusty is intermittent. They are strung bursts of wind, they are brief but strong. I live in the Windy City. Has anyone ever been to Chicago? Although not nicknamed for our wind, it gets pretty gusty here.

Loved nick at nite as a kid. I would sit patiently waiting for I Dream of Genie, Bewitched, The brady Bunch... I'm not too young...

Aerobes bring back memories of my favorite microbiology teacher who just retired last semester. He told us that -obes is also a derivative of the greek bios. I can still hear him saying "Remember gang... they need AIR for LIFE". hehe for Mr. Knipp

I had fun with this puzzle

Anonymous said...

What is it Dimitri or Dmitri. Do we edit letters to make it fit. Do we use text message format.

Chris in LA said...

Anon at 9:54,
Dmitri - properly spelled.
CC's typo is forgiven

Anonymous said...

Paper was late again today, so I did not get started until the second pot of coffee. I had trouble with spelling this time, and am thankful for CC for his blog. The words looked and worked right, but it just was not so. (like girasol instead of garasol; slid for skid; valise instead of valase; potage for potege) Did not have any idea about NYAC,AEROBES RIF,and totally missed Nick at Nite. I must be getting old. Have a nice rainy Sunday. Maybe a nap is in order!

Abogato is Alabama

Clear Ayes said...

Darn it. No TMS puzzle in our Sunday newspaper. When I saw all the lovely actress clues to go with all the title rolls, I shook my head with regret. This one would have been so much fun for me. I've seen and remembered everyone of them.

My mother, aunt and grandmother were CANASTA fanatics and would play at every family get-together. It's a great game, but not too many people I know play it anymore.

Louis NYE was a comedian on the late 1950's Steve Allen TV show. "The Steve Allen Show" was a variety show that featured Don Knotts, Louis Nye, Tom Poston and Bill Dana; all very funny guys.

LOUIE Anderson is another funny guy. A lot of his humor is based on the fact that he is overweight and likes to eat (a lot!). It doesn't sound all that funny when it is written, but comic delivery is 90% of an act. Louie Anderson has a great comic personality and delivery.

C.C. I tried to come up with some 9 letter female titles, but so far all I thought of were " (Erin) Brockovich", "Mary Reilly" and "Silkwood". The first two have 10 letters and the last one only 8 letters. I'm sure there are some more 9 letter ones out there. Maybe some of the other bloggers here aren't so arithmetically challenged as I am.

I'm a Cancer too. There was a period (maybe it is still going on) when we were dubbed "Moon Child" because of the negative connotations of our sign.

I don't remember mentioning anything about ORLOP, except maybe that I didn't know what it was.

Carl, We'll be trying your Ultimate Margarita recipe soon. It sounds so different...and I like different.

Aluciddreamundrempt, (mind if I call you ALDU?) I was born in Chicago and have been back to visit relatives over the years. It is indeed, "The Gusty City". I've come close to being toppled over a couple of times, while walking along the lake front.

Nothing to be RACY about today. I guess I got it all out of my system yesterday.

xchefwalt said...

Good Day c.c., DF’s and all! No puzzle today, just lurking. I was told that a post of mine yesterday was unworkable, so here it is re-linked.

c.c.'s flower

DoesItinInk said...

I did not think I would have time for today's puzzle, but fortunately it was not a terribly hard one, so I managed to complete it with only a few errors.... I had solo instead of SOLI, Leda instead of LETO, and did not know AMOS OZ or Al ROSEN. So I had a total of 5 incorrect squares. Not bad, I think.

I do have a question though about RACY for "somewhat blue". I have never heard that word used in that sense. I know of RACEY being in a racey joke. Can someone explain the association in the puzzle?

Also the clue for ASCII was a bit is not a computer language per se, but a character encoding standard that establishes how characters are represented internally in computers. ASCII stands for "American Standard Code for Information Interchange".

I needed crosses to get MACON Georgia...I was too focused on the problems of the Republic of Georgia, South Ossetia and Russia to think locally!

I noticed that one answer was UGANDA. That should have come easily to anyone who worked yesterday's puzzle.

In generally I really enjoyed this puzzle. It was challenging without being a hair-puller! I did not immediately know all the theme answers but was able to figure them all out with only a few crosses. I did know Annie Hall immediately and am looking forward to seeing Woody Allen's new film Vicky Christina Barcelona.

Richard said...

Hello CC and others. I did not particularly like the puzzle today as I am not into movies and actor/actresses so I had to struggle for the answers. Thanks to Mr G I was able to get all of the theme answers and this allowed me to get all of the fills.

Anonymous abogato in Alabam re your 10:16 am comment. Cc is very much the lady not a "his blog"

Dick said...

Cc I don't know why my last post showed me as Richard. Oh well one and the same.

Clear Ayes said...

Doesitinink, I think "RACY" is the correct spelling for "somewhat blue" or a little risque. The "racey" spelling might be used to indicate "My heartbeat was a little racey."

Also looking forward to "Vicky Christina Barcelona". Woody Allen has always been one of my favorite directors. "Radio Days" is probably my favorite. It reminds me of the music my parents played when I was young.

Speaking of spelling, sorry to Aluciddreamundremt. I spelled it "drempt". I must have been feeling a little verklempt about not having Sunday's puzzle available and the spelling just followed.

Dr.G said...


Is the 24 August puzzle available on line? We do not get it with the Phila. Inq.

Dr.G said...


Is the 24 August puzzle available on line? We do not get it with the Phila. Inq.

C.C. Burnikel said...

That's why the theme title is "Chick Flicks". You are NOT supposed to know all of those movies.

Southern belle,
Thank you for the ZITS. I've enjoyed your comments lately.

A Lucid Dream...
Your knowledge range is way beyond your age.

Abogato is Alabama,
Do you get TMS puzzle on Sunday only?

Clear Ayes,
Thank you for the 9-letter efforts. I must have made a mistake on ORLOP. I vaguely remembered you mentioned going to a place (the spelling might be similar to ORLOP) with your husband sometime last week or the week before.

C.C. Burnikel said...

It seems to me that you are indeed a HARD man, and I suppose you won't be so easily worn out by my repeated FLOWER questions. So, let me tee up the question for you again, why peony?

Thanks for ASCII.

Are you also commenting on other blogs?

Dr. G,
No, TMS Sunday is not available on line anywhere. I don't understand why. This whole crossword world is a SNAFU to me.

xchefwalt said...

@c.c.- goodness gracious, girl! You don’t wear me out; I can go all night long!

(Address the ball) It’s very pretty.
(Backswing) It’s native to China
(Whack that ball!) It symbolizes honor
(Follow through) Legend has it that DF nymphs hide in its petals.

Did I hit the fairway, or am I in the water?

C.C. Burnikel said...

It's a par-3, and you ball landed in the ___ (Bagel center). Are you sure you do not know the feminine symbolism of peony?

Clear Ayes said...

Xchefwalt, very clever answer to C.C.'s peony question.

C.C. My, my, who's getting RACY today?

RE: 9 letter movie female titles. I sat on our patio with an early glass of wine, looked at the hills and came up with a few qualifying titles. I confess, I didn't trust myself so I Googled later to make sure I had them right.
Jane Fonda title role: CAT BALLOU
Ginger Rogers title role: ROXIE HART Roxie Hart
Imelda Staunton title role: VERA DRAKE
Greta Garbo title role: NINOTCHKA (before anybody comments, Ninotchka was her "AKA" in the movie and not her given name)

Anonymous said...

I though I was so smart in devining a possible subtheme, Oscar winning/nominated chick flicks, but could find no evidence that 1935's Annie Oakley fit the category. All the rest did however. Enjoyed this one.
Clear Ayes, I too played canasta with my grandma, into her 90s. She had a regular group of widow ladies that drank tons of coffee and ate sugar sandwiches while dealing the cards. Good memories. The new Woody Allen film is getting good reviews and I'm looking forward to seeing Javier Bardem again (in all or part of his glory).
CC, the meteorologists here in NoDak use the word gusty a lot and it is understood to mean intermittent winds.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Clear Ayes,
Wow, you sure know a lot about movies. I like the Jane Fonda one. What is your favorite flower? And why?

Interesting observation. Maybe all those actresses mentioned in today's clues either won or were nominated for Oscar awards?

Barb B said...

Well, where is Melissa Bee? I thought sure she would provide a link for Leon Redbone. He is one of my favorites, sometimes referred to as Frank Zappa in disguise.

I can never make the links work on this blog, even though they work in other places.

Ladies, this is worth cutting and pasting.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Grammar mistake at my 4:38pm comment. I meant "your" ball, not "you".

Barb B,
Yeah, where is Melissa? And where is Dennis?

Argyle said...

barb_b, I don't belive it. I was about to post that link myself. link And here are the lyrics

c.c., fubar might be a better word than snafu for your 3:53 PM comment.

C.C. Burnikel said...

FUBAR: Yes! Yes! Yes! Santa does know what's in my mind better than I do myself.

Argyle said...

fubar is what the ne corner of my Sunday puzzle was. (Musically Speaking, edited by the Prestons, TMS) I had to consult with Mr G and it still took us an hour...just for that corner!

C.C. Burnikel said...

Could you please provide me the theme answers of your puzzle? How many of them? You should not have any problem with them, right? You are so good at music & lyrics.

Argyle said...

Oops, I sorta lost track of the theme.

compare notes

settle a score

band together

face the music

C.C. Burnikel said...

What? 15*15 for a Sunday puzzle???

Argyle said...

I don't imagine you care for that last one!

Argyle said...

I missed the center one.

double in brass


Anonymous said...

Argyle, thanks for the link to my favorite Scotsman, Gerard Butler. Was that really him as Gable & Bogie? And sexy as can be in a white shirt & vest. Racy! My racing heart needs a cold shower.
CC, good idea, but Kirsten Dunst has never been nominated for an Oscar, but for a lot of other awards.

C.C. Burnikel said...

You meant the repetition of "Music" in both the theme answer and the theme title? Or what? I presume the title "Musically Speaking" is printed in the newspaper instead of your own summary?

Thanks. Kirsten Dunst is too young I suppose.

Argyle said...

Ayup, they printed the theme.

barb_b If you can find it, Leon Redbone acted in the movie, Candy Moutain and composed some of the music. Quirky movie.

C.C. Burnikel said...

I've never seen any newspaper with a 15*15 puzzle on Sundays. It's always 21*21.

Argyle said...

argyle@6:16 PM 21x21
yes, it is 21*21.

Clear Ayes said...

Bea, You made me laugh with your comment about your grandmother and her friends snacking on sugar sandwiches and drinking gallons of coffee while playing Canasta. They must really have been wired. Not much different with my grandmother. There was lots of coffee, but she always had tons of cookies available...same result. BTW, I agree with you about Gerard Butler. He is quite a hunk!

C.C. I have several flowers that I really like. They are all showy and "over the top" (does that say anything about me?) I've seen these growing wild in Oregon. rhododendron You Oregonians are lucky folks. I also love hydrangea. We used to grow these when we lived near the coast, but it is too dry here. Probably my third favorite is amaryllis belladonna. We can grow them here and they grow wild along the roads in Sebastapol, where my sister lives. We like them better by their common name “Naked Ladies”.

Dennis said...

Uh....I'm sorry, did someone say 'naked ladies'???

KittyB said...

Good evening, C.C. and all.

I got to the puzzle late today. I had five down answers I couldn't fill. I should have guessed on two of them, but gave up at that point. 17D, 33D, 35D, 25D, and 68D all eluded me, along with one or two letters of the crosses.

I'm s Libra.

I LOVE Shostakovitch's music!

It's tough to pick a favorite flower, but I have easily 20 different iris in my gardens. I Love chrysanthemums, too.

Hand me one of those Margaritas...I think it's about time to call it a day.

Clear Ayes said...

Dennis, LOL....all we had to do to get you to show up was mention Naked Ladies!

Dennis said...

clear ayes, couldn't help it, my radar went off.

c.c., libra; means I'm supposed to be well-balanced. Go figure.

Barb B said...

Clear Eyes, thanks for the link to Naked Ladies. When my family moved to Mountain View CA they grew everywhere, and I loved them. I haven't seen any for years, and didn't know the Latin name to find them. I want to see if they'll grow here in Oregon.

I'm a cancer.

Barb B said...

Kitty B
Did you make the quilt in your new picture? Is it a New York Beauty?

I love it.

Anonymous said...

KittyB: that is one gorgeous quilt. I admire your creativity & workmanship.
Clear Ayes: Did I mention that my card-playing grandma & her gang would sometimes add brandy to their coffee when they thought I wasn't looking, and that money exchanged hands as well? These angelic old ladies attended daily mass together before slipping into their lives of crime. It didn't seem to hurt them much; my grandma lived to be 103 and one of her cronies is still kicking at 92, working at her son's bar which is conveniently located across the street from their church. They were probably daily visitors at confession. Another reason to like crosswords: that one answer, canasta, provoked some great memories.
"Hunks" would be a good theme for a future puzzle. Movie hunks, Scottish hunks, Spanish hunks, the list is endless! Time for an English hunk, Inspector Lynley.

Clear Ayes said...

RE: "Somewhat blue", answer RACY. I reread Doesitinink's comment about the association in this puzzle. It made me think about the different ways the word "blue" is used.

In this puzzle, it refers to "blue", as in a "blue movie", which is a pornographic movie. "somewhat blue" would be less than pornographic and therefore only RACY or risque.

There is also the basic color, "blue". That one is easy enough, except if you are referring to a Kerry Blue Terrier, a dog breed that is a silver gray color.

Let's not forget "blue", as in, "I'm feeling blue (sad)." If we were to read the clue with that in mind, a four letter answer could be GLUM.

Opposite to the pornographic "blue" are the "blue laws", which, very puritanically, forbid doing business on Sunday.

"Blue in the face", means to become very excited or upset about something. Actually, we don't turn blue, but red in the face.

That's all the thinking I can do today.

Bea, Nathaniel Parker (Inspector Lynley) is very attractive, as is Javier Bardem. Let's hope for an "International Hunk" puzzle very soon.

Lola said...

No puzzle in the N/W sector today, but I enjoyed reading all the commentary. All the talk about Grandmas put me in mind of a movie I saw recently called "Irina Palm". It was a very interesting viewpoint on the inner strength of real women. It's a chick flick with a racy edge. If you see this movie I would be very interested on your take. Goodnight. Here's to a fun Monday puzzle.

Crockett1947 said...

Lola, sorry I didn't see you yesterday. We had lots of ice cream and toppings!

Lola said...

Crockett, sorry I didn't see you play. I had a 6:00 A.M. breakfast date, and had to take a little nap to recharge the batteries. Let me know the next time you perform and I'll be there if possible. The August rain is a sure reminder that we live in Oregon. It's hard to complain about our weather when we hear about the trouble our Florida friends have to deal with. Talk to you all MaƱana.