Jun 25, 2011

Saturday, June 25, 2011 Julian Lim




Wow, just a brutal second themeless offering from Mr. Lim, with some clues that were very vague, and others that I downright had to just wince at. Just the one grid spanner today,

36. "The sea was angry that day," e.g. : PATHETIC FALLACY

an "expanded" metaphor, so to speak, with what I thought was the original answer - PERSONIFICATION....and that was just the first of many mistakes :-((


1. Bounce : DRIBBLE - Ugh, Basketball - I was on the Echo/Toss Out wavelength...

8. Site of the largest WWII Allied Pacific amphibious assault : OKINAWA - IWO JIMA fit, too

15. Pigment used in some primer paints : RED LEAD - Did not know this

16. Worldly : SECULAR - I was on the "global" wavelength

17. Glowing, perhaps : PLEASED - started with RADIANT

18. "You're in charge!" : SEE TO IT

19. Courage : HEART

20. Fightin' with : AGIN' - Against, in "drawl-speak"

22. Exobiologist's org. : SETI - Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence - shoulda got this from the "Exo-" part, but I was thinking bugs...

23. Covering an outfield position : IN LEFT - good baseball answer, I had center at first

25. Byzantine emperor known as "the Armenian" : LEO V - here's his Wiki

27. Some hosps. : VAs - Veteran's Affairs Hospitals

28. Mil. officers : LTs - Lieutenants

29. Demolish, in Durham : RASE - the Anglo version of RAZE

31. Most recently introduced : NEWEST

33. Summons : TICKET - Argh~! I started with this, and took it out

35. One putting on shows : AIRER - Meh, but yeah

40. Hatch of Utah : ORRIN - knew it wasn't Estes, but I couldn't think of him at first

41. Neil Diamond title words after "I am the tune" : PLAY ME - I'll leave the links to you

42. One may be packed with Oreos, briefly : PB AND J - a Peanut Butter and Jelly sa'mich - really~!?  Are there any of us out there that put Oreos in there too~?  Yecht - I'll keep mine for dessert....

44. Uma's role in "The Producers" : ULLA - Uma, Ulla, Uma, Ulla

45. Label for Nilsson : RCA - WAGed EMI, MCI, but ultimately, did not know this guy

48. Yom __: holiday, in Hebrew : TOV

49. Kosovo resident : SERB

51. Hawks' contacts, perhaps : ARMERS - Ugh, as in those who supply arms to militant types, also known as "hawks"

53. Uncultivated, probably : ARID - well, not necessarily, but what can I say....

55. Banter : JEST - I don't see the synonym here - Banter is light talk, Jest is to joke, for me.

57. Does a word-processing task : SAVES - EDITS, DELES, STETS, TYPES, nope - what every application file needs - to be saved; not limited to word-processing....

58. Reacts in fear, in a way : REARS UP

60. Like some soap : ON A ROPE - Cute GAG GIFT ( last week ), and a necessity in prison, I would think....

62. "Eugene Onegin" heroine __ Larina : TATIANA

63. NBAer orig. from Minnesota : L.A. LAKER - great, more basketball - getting to be like French around here - when is MY puzzle going to show up with all the hockey in it?

64. Made red-faced? : SLAPPED - this was a good one - had ANGERED to start, knew I was not quite right with the "?"

65. Evidence provider : DNA TEST


1. "Family First" author, familiarly : DR. PHIL - a phony, if you ask me

2. Give in : RELENT

3. Epitomes : IDEALS

4. Play up to the max? : BLARE - is this true, JzB~?

5. Some buds : BEST FRIENDS - got stuck on a "plant-like" wavelength with 'buds'

6. Papua New Guinea port : LAE - Map, in the middle

7. Snorri Sturluson's "Prose __" : EDDA - the Wiki

8. Walter's "I'm Not Rappaport" co-star : OSSIE - not familiar with this

9. Really into : KEEN ON

10. Plans may be put on it : ICE

11. More than just touched : NUTS

12. Herbal medicine plant : ALOE VERA - the whole name

13. "Not so fast!" : WAIT A SECond

14. Craft : ARTISTRY - Nice clue/answer for a Saturday

21. Competitors in a Fox comedy-drama : GLEE CLUBS - the EE gave it to me

24. Bumpkin's lack : TACT

26. Trattoria offering : VEAL MARSALA - had VEAL_, couldn't recall the second half - I have had Chicken Marsala, which I believe is wine & mushroom sauce - I am not the chef here, but I do "use pot"....

30. Problem with an old record : SKIP - " a a a rhinestone..." my 45 had a SKIP right there

32. Bit of cunning : WILE

33. Like a poor argument : THIN - WEAK, TAME, nope

34. Maker of nonstick cookware : T-FAL

36. Toaster brand : POP-TARTS - ugh - tried too hard to make Oster fit, etc.

37. Like kinkajous : ARBOREAL - Here's a pic

38. "Fallen woman," in an opera title : - La TRAVIATA, by "Joe Green" (Victor Borge)

39. "The Clan of the Cave Bear" protagonist : AYLA

43. Not exciting : JEJUNE - that's French~!

45. Take away : REVOKE

46. Brunch fare : CREPES - had MIMOSA and OMELET to start - fare is one of those single/plural words, like fish

47. Maintain : ASSERT

50. Fix, as brakes : RE-PAD - I have had many a chance to fix brakes, but never said "RE-PAD"

52. Corday victim : MARAT - French revolution, she slayed him in the bath

54. Cone eater's concern : DRIP

56. Let in on : TOLD - TELL and TALK did not work

59. Enervate : SAP

61. Turkic flatbread : NAN

Splynter, going back to bed to heal the brain damage....


Lemonade714 said...

Good morning Splynter:

I believe the PB and J is being packed in the lunch box along with Oreos for dessert, two items of the lunch.

This was one of those Saturdays that look so bad at first you want to quit, but I did not and slowly but surely a word emereged here and then there. BEST FRIENDS was the key to the NW, VEAL MARSALA fo rthe SE. The ULLA AYLA cross was my last fill.

This was well done for many of the reasons pointed out by S., OKINAWA and IWO JIMA both fitting, PERSONIFICATION working in the middle, but when all was said and done, it was done.

Harry Nilsson was a great songwriter

Splynter said...

See That ~?

That's what happens at 3am - one starts to think the Oreos are in the sa'mich, and not the lunch box - thanks, L, I get it now....


HeartRx said...

Good Morning Splynter, C.C. et al.

Stellar job at 3 AM, Splynter! Yep, “personification” didn’t work for me in the center, either. Funny how that works. I had the same reaction as you did when P B AND J emerged. Huh? Who puts Oreos in a PB…oh, wait – he means packed along with, as Lemonade has already pointed out. HaHa.

I got a toehold in the NE, and worked in dribs and drabs from there. I really enjoyed “Not just touched” for NUTS. But I have to admit, I did look up “I’m Not Rappaport” to get OSSIE and Kinkajous to get ARBOREAL.

There was a lot of fresh fill in this one, especially in the SW with TRAVIATA, TATIANA, POP TARTS, REARS UP and SLAPPED. With only 26 blocks, the grid was wide open and provided an extra degree of elegance. Nice job, Julian!

Now go outside and play, everyone !

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

Brutal is right. I did manage to finish this one unassisted (unlike yesterday), but it took some WAGs and I wasn't very happy about it.

ULLA crossing AYLA? RED LEAD crossing LAE? That's just plain nasty and unfair.

Other obscurities abounded, such as TOV, LEOV, RCA, TATIANA, TRAVIATA, MARAT, OSSIE and "Kinkajous," but at least those were gettable via the perps for the most part.

The PBANDJ answer confused me as well, so thanks for the explanation, Lemonade!

And a big hand up for not having ever heard of PATHETIC FALLACY. In fact, the first part of that phrase seemed like an apt description of this puzzle.

Don't get me wrong -- there was a lot of good stuff in the puzzle as well. But it kind of gets forgotten when you keep running into "gems" like ARMERS...

Argyle said...

I'm sorry, I usually like Julian's puzzles but to say this was a good one, IMHO, is a PATHETIC FALLACY, only suitable for RE-PADding the bird cage. Gosh, I sound a little bitter, don't I?

thehondohurricane said...

Well, for the third day in a row it was another old fashioned butt kicking. There were at least ten clues that I had no idea who,what, or where they were. Pathetic fallacy, T Fal, snorri sturluson,... Perps helped some, but it was still another DNF.

I'm looking forward to Monday's puzzle so I can regain some self confidence in the world of puzzles. And it gives me a day to go out and replenish my supply of erasers.

Think I'll go have a PB &J with my nan.

Jacel said...

Good morning all,
Thank-you Splynter for the explanations. Julian, thank-you for a Saturday challenge. This one was brutal and I had to turn on the red letters. There were a lot of vague clues that could have multiple entries.

In order to finish, I had to look for the definitions of "kinkajous" and "epitomes". Veal Marsala is one of my favorite Italian dishes.

Anonymous said...

I think you guys try to make the Saturday puzzle harder than it should be. Try using one word answers. That would be a good test for a great puzzle designer. Ah, a dictionary might help.

Anonymous said...

Harry Nilsson

Tinbeni said...

Damn, It really bugs me when I can't remember the Record Lable of an artist I enjoyed ... 30 years ago.
V-8 can to the rescue, Harry Nilsson was with RCA.

Argyle said...

"Rejected for use as the theme for the film, "Midnight Cowboy," but a great song nevertheless, and one that has been typically forgotten or ignored by oldies stations." - MrTrashcan1

I Guess The Lord Must Be In New York City(2:55)

Grumpy 1 said...

Thanks for the write up, Splynter. I'm with you on REPADS. I've relined a lot of brakes, and replaced a lot of brake pads, but REPAD? No! I need a new mattress. Am I going to 'remattress' the bed?

Something that can be toasted is a toaster? C'mon Julian, you can do better than that.

PATHETIC is my choice of words for some of the cluing on this one. And you know I seldom complain about cluing. Just too much useless trivia for my taste. Did Rich take a vacation and have Will Shortz edit this one? Maybe the stinkers were his substitutions. :)

This is the first one in a long time that I had to give up on the pen and paper, go to the computer and use red letter help.

JD said...

Good morning Splynter, CC and all,

Pathetic is right! The red letters told me that almost all of my WAGS were frustrating. Okinawa along with aloe vera helped me complete the NE corner. Orrin and Ayla were not helpful, not best friends, definitely not enough fill for me to keep-a-goin'

BTW, has anyone completed and enjoyed Auel's last novel? eddyB?

Enjoy the day.

Looking forward to links

Anonymous said...

would love to know the back story on this one!

JD said...

Thanks Splynter for all the links.I still play one of my old Disney Christmas albums that has a s-s-st stutter in a few places, but I can't duplicate it.

More about Kinkajous

Even though we have had nan/naan before, here's more.

pat said...

I love your comments, but hate it when the grids not THERE. Ruins my morning. So, what happened to this morning's answer grid, and will I see it before Monday? Pat

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, I didn't know there was a term for it, but I can't forget George Costanza's use of this PATHETIC FALLACY. Thanks, Julian.

I knew 1D)DR PHIL's book name, although I haven't read it. That gave me DRIBBLE. I also got the cross of OKINAWA and OSSIE. If I'd know what was coming, I would have quit there.

Tough from there on down, a classic picket fence that I had to fill in, one slat (square) at a time.

Not the same as RED LEAD, but I thought of the Falun Red paint that dots the Swedish countryside. It's made up of copper, iron ocre and even some rye flour.

POP-TARTS as toaster? I get it, just like toasted "Thomas'".

My father loved LA TRAVIATA and called it "The Working Girl"...makes sense.

Harry Nilsson has been a favorite for many years. Thanks, Anons and Argyle for the links.

Argyle said...

Pat, I hope I fixed the Answer grid.

Husker Gary said...

Mom always said, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!"

See you tomorrow! Ugh (that slippped out)!

Spitzboov said...

Hello everyone. Splynter, you did a good job in spite of the hand you were dealt.

I'm with Argyle and Splynter on this one. While many clues were 'permissible', they were too opaque/oblique for my taste. I got OKINAWA early on but most of it was a grind. Some bright fill included ARTISTRY and ARBOREAL, but they were eclipsed by fill like AIRERS, ARMERS, SEE TO IT, and DNA TEST. I thought IN LEFT was clever. Needed red letter help in the SE with MARAT. I reacted the same as Splynter with the PB AND J clue. Thanks, Lemon. To summarize (summarise, for the Britophiles), There was no joy in Flatbush today.

Elsewise, have a great day.

JD said...

Pat, you can go to the LA Times, click on today's crossword.I have no idea why it isn't here today.

Spent the last hour listening to links of Harry Nillson.Thanks

BTW, there are quite a few Russian ladies still in the Wimbledon draw..with the OVA endings to their names.What does ova mean in Russian...any idea?

Mary said...

Glad to hear you all had as much trouble as I did.

Hands up for PERSONIFICATION and IWOJIMA. The rest were just slow in coming with lots of look ups.

I will sing the praises of Jean Auel's latest book, "The Land of Painted Caves" I've been a fan of AYLA since Clan of the Cave Bear. With 30 years spread for the six books the length is no problem. However, I'm not yet done with #6. I've combined reading the hardback with listening to CDs while I drive and am about 2/3 into it so far...

Anonymous said...

Not a basketball fan either (obviously) but found there was a 1950s pro player with U Minn connection whose surname fit in 63-across when I had the letters ALA:Ed KALAfat.

Jayce said...


Pathetic Fallacy: Huh?

Bill G. said...

I agree with Argyle and others. If all the LAT puzzles were going to be like this one, I'd just get a new hobby. Not any fun for me.

Avg Joe said...

Harry was one of the most intelligent talents of the rock era, IMHO. He flat did not want to play by the rules of the music industry and he pulled it off. Case in point, he NEVER once played in concert. He simply refused to do it and got away with it.

If you know any of his history, he became close friends with the Beatles, John in particular. The song that started that was Without Her. Without You came several albums later. But it was a Badfinger cover and Without Her was an original. It was also his own personal favorite.

I usually don't like or rec compilation albums, but if you are a Harry fan, a must have is "Nilsson - Personal Best". If only for the liner notes which take at least an of hour to read.

One of his more daring songs off Son of Schmilsson was <a href=">I'd Rather Be Dead</a>. In that, he brought in a supporting choir of senior citizens. The song is readily findable, but this mini-docudrama is about the making of that song. It's pretty cute.

Jayce said...

Okay. I looked up pathetic fallacy, know what it is now. Learning moment.

Avg Joe said...

Whoops. Forgot something. Here is a live link to I'd Rather Be Dead

Dudley said...

Hello Puzzlers - this was one damned hard puzzle. I spent waaaay too much time on it and now my wife is annoyed with me. Pretty much every identifiable noun was put into Google, so I could get something filled.

Piles of unknowns, it would be quicker to list just the few knowns. JEJUNE is the most painful, unknown in any language.

I suspect two things: (1) Julian has a hefty number of IQ points over me, and (b) PATHETIC FALLACY was the one-liner around which an entire mean puzzle was built.

Splynter, you deserve a special commendation for blogging that beeotch.

eddyB said...

Hello all.

Giving up trying to post. Tried three times.


Clear Ayes said...

Funny that two of the CDs I brought along for the drive to Dodo's on Thursday were "A Little Touch of Schmilsson In The Night" and "Nilsson Sings Newman". I also had Warren Zevon's "Bad Luck Streak in Dancing School" with me. Not quite the same thing in reference to departed musicians, but my selections reminded me of this old Dan Hicks and His Hot Licks song. I'm pretty sure WH and Avg Joe are Dan Hicks fans too.

It was a 3 1/2 hour round trip, so I had four CDs. The last one was "The Pirates Of Penzance". All at the top of my lungs, Jeannie.

C.C. Burnikel said...

My morning was ruined too. Otherwise I would have attached the answer grid. Difficult day.

Bill G. said...

C.C., what happened to your morning?

CA, I'm not very familiar with Dan Hicks, but being a musical fogy, it sounds like music I would enjoy. Simple, melodic, rhythmic, etc. Good stuff.

jjinFL said...

Wow! Have mercy. Too too hard. Everything I tried did not work out. Kept having to cross out and try something else. P B and J...crazy. Pathetic Fallacy,,,author had to really reach to put that one in just to confuse us. Some things I've never heard like "turkic flatbread"...not much call for that in conversation. Oh, yeah, and I just love reading Snorri
Sturluson's works (not)...never ever heard of him/her and doubt I need to. I'm glad to finally be done searching Google for my answers today. And I still like "personification" for an answer. I thought,"Oh, boy! Here's one I know from high school English. Wrong again! jj

GarlicGal said...

Okay, so chalk this up to a DNF for me. All the same problems as the rest of you. It's definitely Saturday!

Lemonade714 - good one! Roasted garlic does taste good smeared over just about anything, but not sure about a #2 pencil or post-a-notes! Of course there are people who stand in line for Garlic Ice Cream at the festival. Go figure...

Think I'll dig out my old Nilsson vinyls. I have some Dan Hicks too come to think of it.

Off to the downtown car show. A beautiful day in NorCal!

eddyB said...


Will try once more time before the race starts.

Agree that this one was brutal. Had
to look at the ans sheet more than a few times last night.

Ayla was a gimmie. The book is on the shelf with the others. I was left feeling stranded - like there
has to be one more.

Danica has P2. But, am rooting for
Ana since Simona isn't cleared to

Not going to use Preview this time.

Take care. eddy

eddyB said...


Jerome said...

Thanks for the fine puzzle Julian. PATHETIC FALLACY is a spectacular phrase. I'm looking forward to the next one!

Bill G. said...

We just got back from lunch at what might be a competitor of Jeannie's. It's Johnny Rockets, a 50s-themed burger joint. (I see they have one in Mall of America.) We normally wouldn't go there but we couldn't resist a two-for-one coupon offer. Now I'm stuffed so I might have to take a little nap to sleep it off.

creature said...

Good Evening C.C., Splynter {ALLAH} and all,

I have a new commitment for a while on Saturday Ams with my girls, so the puzzle has to wait til I get back home.. Imagine my chagrin when I faced this puzzle for my escape. Iwo Jima, then Tarawa, and on….

Thought ARMERS were/was the names of protection for the arm, when holding hawks.

Looked up 22A, SETI and 37D, ARBOREAL.

Many were perps and wags.

ARBOREAL told me personification was out of the question.

Got so excited over JEJUNE, CA’s word when she was on the ‘ennui’ kick- poem and all.

Banter/ JEST just are wrong, I say, Wrong. I would think that would only be understood by the parties involved at the time of the banter.


6 minutes short of my spritzer; get all the makings: soda water, lots of ice and ‘Box-O’Chardonnay, topped off with a cocktail straw, pilfered from our latest outing and last but not least , the perfect glass.

Have a nice evening everyone.

Frenchie said...

Hi C.C., Argyle and folk,

Fantastic work, Splynter!

7. Snorri Sturluson's "Prose __" : EDDA -we had edda-Norse fairy tale a few days ago. Interesting.

I'm out

Frenchie said...

About Byzantine Art, though this isn't one, I have to say the mosaics are to die for! Stiffy
"The majority of the art in this period and place were created for the Eastern Orthodox Church. The Eastern Orthodox preferred a
somber reflected tone to worship instead of the large congregational worship of the West. This focus is also reflected in their art and architecture. The figures in their art appear flat and one dimensional with little use of shadowing to give any life-like appearance. Figures are almost always from the front with somber and solemn looks coming from starring eyes. Faces were long and narrow. In all, very little attempt was made for realism in the painting and mosaic depictions."

Clear Ayes said...

Garlic Gal, very nice new avatar. I should have known you'd have a Dan Hicks CD tucked away someplace.

Bill G., Dan Hicks is worth the search. Give him a try.

creature, Box O'Chardonnay? A woman after my own heart. I still have a couple of hours to go until that "5 o'clock somewhere". A spritzer OTOH might be just fine at a warm 3:00 PM.

You have a better memory than I (see teachers, I do know the difference). :o) I'd almost forgotten about JEJEUNE. No ennui for me today. We're having enchiladas (yum) for dinner.

Avg Joe said...

CA, I've never been introduced to Dan Hicks. Thanks for that prompt. I'll check further.

It did remind me a little of one of my favorite bands. I'll let you guess the artist, the tune is Dancin' the Night Away. And if you like what you hear, let it run because it continues.

Now I must go listen to "Son of.." and "A Little Touch of..". Might even throw "Harry" into the mix.

BTW, Splynter. Glad you liked Robin Trower the other day. Gotta warn you though, I was disappointed in that album. The title track was all that was worthwhile for me.

windhover said...

I'm with Joe. The mention I've ever seen of Dan Hicks is innthe music issue of the Oxford American, a quarterly I subscribe to that was originally published in the home town of Johnny Faullkner, went belly up and was revived in Conway, Arkansas.
BTW, my (abortive) efforts over the years to "get" Faulkner probably beliethe fact that although I consider myself "Southern", I was in fact born 4 blocks from the Ohio River. I've tried, but I just can't make it work.
After farmers market this morning, garden work in the afternoon, and a nap, the Irish and (is it I or me?) are off the the Shakey Ground bar to listen to a little Southern rock. That I get.

JD said...

CA, thanks for the Dan Hicks link..great title.Knew his music, not his name.Same thing with Harry.He was the voice behind many of favorite songs in films.I like those CD's because of the variety. May have to get more of Nilsson.

Garlic Gal..great new avatar.

Mary, thanks for the thumbs up on the Painted too eddyB. Didn't know if you'd finished it.

Chickie said...

Hola Everyone, What Splynter said, right down the line. I had bits and pieces, but not the whole of much of anything.

Thanks Splynter for clarifying a lot of Huh? clues and answers.

I usually try the Saturday puzzles, but if they don't get finished, I usually learn somethin along the way. Today, I learned a lot!

I started this puzzle early on this morning, but made jam most of the day. I tried to finish up the CW this afternoon, but DNf. Have a great weekend, everyone.

someone said...

Have a good time WH, I wish I were there!

Chickie said...

Garlic Gal, I love your new avatar. Also, I had to go back to yesterday's late postings to see what Lemonade had said about spreading the Garlic on stuff.

LOL with putting it on our pencils. I really had a good laugh over that one.

windhover said...

Just got here, a cool ride on the bike. Wish you were, too. The more the merrier.

Clear Ayes said...

Forgot earlier. Thanks Splynter, for blogging this really tough puzzle. I thought the same thing about the OREOS until Lemonade's thwack with the V-8 can.

I hope Avg Joe and WH will like what they hear and soon become fans of Dan Hicks. The Hot Licks were part of the mid 1960's edgier San Francisco folk-rock scene.

Avg Joe, GAH in particular is no stranger to Robin Trower. He was a big Procol Harum fan and we have a couple of PH CDs and RT's "Bridge of Sighs"....and thanks for The Amazing Rhythm Aces.

WH, glad that you and The Irish are already on Shakey Ground. Johnny of William?

It seems to me, most of the books from notable southern writers involve very odd people and a lot of perspiration. A little Southern Gothic goes a long way.

JD said...

This is REALLY off the subject, but has anyone had one of those new Pyrex dishes explode? Mine just did when I took it out of the oven and put it on the counter. No more Pyrex for me...not the "new" stuff that does not feel like glass.

windhover said...

Yep, the dude messed me up so bad I got his damn name wrong. ;-}
southern gothic? That tells me you've read you some Flannery O'Connor. That's one girl I'd like to drink some beers with.
Think I'm back.

dodo said...

Hello Saturday Solvers,

I'm swearing off Saturdays, too, after this one! Julian, I don't think you like us! I threw in the towel early on! Glad I'm not the only one!

Chickie, I think GG is refering to a joke of Lemonade's taking issue with with my sentence structure when I wrote something like "GG gave us each a lovely garlic and a pad and pencil to take notes. She told me how to roast it and I'm going to try it." Or similar,and he expressed his interest in roasted paper pad and pencil! Sort of a dangling something or other. Mea culpa!

BTW, Lemon, I've been meaning to say how adorable your little Mia is! What a sweetheart! She gets prettier every day!

dodo said...

Garlic Girl, Love your avatar! I so enjoyed meeting you and am so glad you joined us! My only regret regarding our luncheon is that there was absolutely no way that we could talk one-on-one. I want to know so much more about every one of you.

Oh and thank you for the garlic and goodies! I've always loved a brand new pencil, too.

On the other hand, what a wonderful series of conversations we had all together. Can't wait to do it again.

Clear Ayes said...

JD, Wow, I bet that was scary! Luckily, I've never had that happen. I think I'd swear off Pyrex too. I second your comment about Lemonade's Mia.

Dodo, I laughed at your roasted pencil and Post-it remark....dangle those participles all you want.

Garlic Gal, tomorrow is BBQ day with that roasted garlic as the star. Thank you again!

WH, I was thinking more of Carson McCullers and Tennessee Williams, but Flannery O'Connor....absolutely.

That's five and out for me. 'Night all.

Chickie said...

JD, What a surprise to have a dish just explode. I've read about this happening, but haven't had it happen to me personally.

I'm not sure I want to use my Pyrex dishes from now on.

Anonymous said...

poptarts- I don't think of them as a toaster brand I heat mine in the micro wave.

RCA- I think of David Bowie when he was on that label as a recording artist.

David Bowie

Anonymous said...


This might help explain OVA in Russian names.

Historically, the -ovich (-ovna) form was reserved for the Russian aristocracy, while commoners had to use -in, -yn, -ov, -ev, etc. (for a son; e.g., Boris Alekseev, Dmitri Kuzmin) and -eva, -ova, -ina, etc. (for a daughter; e.g., Sofiya Alekseeva, Anastasiya Kuzmina). Over time, the -ovich (-ovna) form spread to commoners favored by the tsar, high-ranking bureaucrats, and during the 19th century, to all segments of Russian society.

Russian names

Mr.Grumpy said...

I claim brain damage from this one.

Goldie said...

I just finished the June 25th puzzle (now being Oct. 19) with the aid of the given answers. The clues were so off the wall that they were rediculous and not at all clever. I hope you don't construct any more of these inane types of puzzles - and, no, I'm not a dummy! I have two degrees and have taught at the university level for 11 years.

Argyle said...

If you read the comments, you saw most agreed with you...but their spelling was better, Professor.