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Jul 16, 2018

Monday July 16, 2018 Neville Fogarty

Theme: 4 O's. - Each theme entry has a pair of consecutive O's. .

17A. 1970s-'80s fashion inspired by astronauts' footwear: MOON BOOTS.

39A "Was I premature?": TOO SOON?

62A. 1990s cartoon series featuring a classic 8-Down dog: GOOF TROOP. 8D. Mickey Mouse creator: DISNEY.

11D. Teacher's domain: SCHOOL ROOM.

30D. Play some b-ball: SHOOT HOOPS.

Boomer here.  

It has been a fairly ordinary week, but I am looking forward to participating in the PBA50 Pro-Am tournament (I am an Am) to send off the PBA50 tournament this Tuesday in Monticello, MN.  Monticello is a city about 40-50 miles west of the Twin Cities, and carries the moniker of "River City" since the Mississippi flows through the town.  Below are some cards of the bowlers who will participate.  I chose these players because they are past champions of 4 previous PBA50 tournaments that were held at Treasure Island Casino in Welch, MN.  (60 miles south of the Twin cities.) Norm Duke, Pete Weber, Walter Ray Williams, and Parker Bohn III.  They were kind enough to autograph my cards.




Across:

1. Carpenter's file: RASP.  Mr. Utin first name ?

5. Necklace pellet: BEAD.

9. Thorns in one's side: PESTS.

14. __ mater: ALMA.
15. Wrinkly citrus fruit: UGLI.  Crazy, if a fruit is Ugly, call it what it is, do not misspell it.


16. Neckwear named for a British racecourse: ASCOT.  I believe you need to have a LOT more money than I to wear one of these.

19. The "a" sound in "above": SCHWA.

20. Like Frosted Flakes' coating: SUGARY.  Frosted Flakes, Golden Crisp, etc. taste good, but I don't think they are good for kids.

21. Responsibility: ONUS.

23. "Above," in verse: OER. "The land of the free, and the home of the brave."

24. DVD holder: CASE.  I suppose, but it could also be a lawyer's pursuit..

26. Series installment: EPISODE.

28. Like easy, well-paying jobs: CUSHY.

31. Traditional 15th anniversary gift: CRYSTAL.  Reminds me of Crystal Gayle - "Don't in make my Brown Eyes Blue"

33. 1993 Presidential Medal of Freedom awardee Arthur: ASHE.  A great tennis player.  His life ended however at the age of 49.

34. Vietnamese soup: PHO.


35. Souped-up vehicle: HOT ROD. Also famous NBA star "Hot Rod" Hundley.  Drafted by Cincinnati and traded to the Minneapolis Lakers.  He became more famous when the team moved to Los Angeles.

38. __ Speedwagon: REO.

41. Fútbol cheer: OLE.  I believe this is Sven's buddy.  I'm from Minnesota, I know all the stories about OLE don'tcha know.

42. NASA explorers: PROBES. Silly me, I always thought they were called Astronauts.  C.C. has John Glenn's autograph. 


44. "Dig in!": EAT.

45. Coke or Pepsi: SODA.  This is another interesting word.  I learned that carbonated beverages were called SODA when I served in southern USA.  Up north we called it POP.

46. Most sour: TARTEST.

48. Humped beast: CAMEL.  I remember when these were awful cigarettes.  I would not even walk a half mile for one.

49. "Who Let the Dogs Out?" one-hit wonder: BAHA MEN.

51. Carry with effort: HAUL.

53. __ Grande: RIO.

54. Colored eye part: IRIS.

56. Citrus-flavored diet drink: FRESCA.  I would not call this SODA or POP.  I might call it TARTEST though.

60. "__ have a clue": I DON'T.  My expression when I am trying to solve these puzzles.

64. Conical home: TEPEE.

65. Short skirt: MINI.

66. First blank on many forms: NAME.

67. Donkeys: ASSES.  I'll leave this alone.

68. Trebek of "Jeopardy!": ALEX.  Not my favorite Canadian.  He's okay on Jeopardy, but I don't like his Colonial Penn commercials.

69. Heavenly spheres: ORBS.

Down:

1. Ewes' guys: RAMS.  This is an LA Times puzzle, you'd think this would have a football clue.

2. Moises of the 2007-'08 Mets: ALOU.  Moises, Felipe, and Matty.  I think they were the only trio of brothers to make the big leagues. (Correction: Gloria and Allan just reminded me of the DiMaggio brothers. Thank you!)

3. Urban pollution: SMOG.

4. Dashing style: PANACHE.

5. Regatta markers: BUOYS.

6. Sense of self: EGO.

7. Glee club voice: ALTO.  Not in my book.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but a Glee Club was male voices.  Females sang in Choirs, choruses, and other symphonic names. and ALTO is definitely a female voice tone.

9. "Tell your friends": PASS IT ON. A request in a few commercials,

10. Corner PC key: ESC.

12. Hauled to the shop: TOWED.  We have a car in the apartment lot near our home and there is a car which has a horn blasting frequently.  I wish that was towed.

13. Look steadily (at): STARE.

18. Donkey's cry: BRAY.  I have heard of Bray, but I suppose HEE HAW was too many letters.

22. Final result: UPSHOT.

25. Rebound, like sound: ECHO.

27. H.S. exam for college hopefuls: SAT.  Back when we were kids, this was called the Scholastic Assessment Test, and you needed a decent score to apply for college.  Now it is just called the SAT, and all you need to get into college is a fist full of money.

28. Fisherman's soup fish: CARP.  NO WAY!  In Minnesota if you catch a CARP, you are required by law to dispose of it and you are not allowed to toss it back into the lake.

29. PC manual reader: USER.

32. Prickly flowers: ROSES. The flowers are not prickly, it's the stems.


34. Dorm room decoration: POSTER.

36. Shoppe sign adjective: OLDE.  I think this is the queen's English.  Everything in Britain is OLDE.

37. "Let's Make a __": DEAL.  Pick Me Monty!!

39. Home-wrecking insects: TERMITES. I have never actually seen a termite, but I have seen their supper once or twice.

40. Witness' promise: OATH. Nothing but the truth

43. Sheep cry: BAA. No - this is not the Acronym for Bowlers Anonymous Association.

45. City near Naples: SALERNO.

47. Real mystery: ENIGMA.

48. Terse: CURT.  Famous Bloody Sock Pitcher for the Red Sox in the World Series.  (Gave new meaning to the team name).



49. Big name in water filtration: BRITA.  Never tried this. We buy bottled water for drinking. 

50. Senate staffers: AIDES.

52. Stick on, as a label: AFFIX.  Affix stamp here.  Have you seen the USPS new JFK stamps?


55. Gardener's bagful: SOIL.

57. Fly high: SOAR. Like an eagle.

58. Hair care tool: COMB.  I never knew a comb was a tool.  I don't keep one in my tool box.

59. "Planet of the __": APES.

61. Born, in alumni newsletters: NEE.

63. Single: ONE. Short for a Washington bill.

Boomer



67 comments:

D4E4H said...

Thanks Mr, Neville Fogarty for this enjoyable Monday CWP which I FIR in 19:05.

Thanks Boomer for your educational review.

Ðave

D4E4H said...

Mimi FLN at 2:55 PM wrote "I usually just stalk." The usual word used by those reading comments without posting their own comments is "lurking". Each of these words carries a negative connotation that should not be associated with the Corner. I challenge you linguists to coin or come up with a term for their activity which has a positive connotation.

Mimi, welcome to posting.

Ðave

OwenKL said...

⊞ FIRight but had to change wiveS to PESTS.
⊞ Burger King has just started serving frozen FRESCA - but only orange and cola.
⊞ I thought SCHWA was the character, not the sound it represents?
⊞ Were any BAHA MEN Bahaman?
⊞ The four corners are all plural animals: RAMS, ASSES, APES, PESTS; and (at least?) two of them have their vocalizations in the puzzle as well: BRAY & BAA.
⊞ Imponderable I've heard more than once -- since GOOFY and Pluto are both dogs, how come one can talk and the other can't?
⊞ I don't know if many SPEED WAGONS became HOT RODS. Maybe the hearses?
⊞ Is it TOO SOON for the GOOF TROOP to SHOOT HOOPS in a SCHOOL ROOM wearing MOON BOOTS?

What we did as kids now we shouldn't oughta,
Like the TARTEST taste of a FRESCA SODA!
Today, I don't think
To have a SUGARY drink!
Instead I thrive on just diet cola!

They expedited it with all they've got!
It can't be late, no it must not!
The UPSHOT is
In the package biz
A rush delivery arrives U.P.S. HOT!

{B-, B+.}

fermatprime@gmail.com said...

Greetings!

Thanks to Neville and Boomer!

Glee Clubs are not always all male.

FRESCA was not immediate, but the whole thing was very short!

Have a great day!

Lemonade714 said...

This was obviously a CSO to our Monday guide - BOOMER.

Meanwhile, MOISES ALOU is the son of Felipe Alou and most famous for the catch he did not make 2003 WORLD SERIES .
FELIPE, MATEO and JESUS were the three brothers.

Happy Monday all. Thank you Neville and Boomer.

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Zoom-Zoom. This one came in under six, which is just about as fast as I can write. Forgot to look for the theme, though I think I would have figured it out. Thanx, Neville and Boomer. (Utin -- funny).

SODA: A claim to fame (there weren't many) for our little town was that it was home to the WIECO Pop Company. It wasn't named for Wisconsin, but for the Wiessman family who owned it.

PHO: I learned here at the corner that it doesn't rhyme with faux.

COMB: Teeth always broke out of the plastic ones. For the past five years I've carried a stainless steel model. It still looks like new.

CRYSTAL: Crystal Gayle had a long string of country hits back in the day. She is Loretta Lynn's little sister.

Jinx in Norfolk said...

FIW x 2 on MONDAY! Had cOlA, and didn't pick up on OLlE (shoppe). Didn't know SALERNO - I was thinking Florida's Naples (Marco Island had too many letters) - even though I have spent more time in Napoli than in our version.

I TOW a Honda CRV behind our motor home. RVers call them TOADS.

Ask any help desk employee - USERs NEVER read the PC manual. Maybe that's why they have all but disappeared.

Kentucky will SHOOT HOOPS against the Bahamas National Team in 23 days to open their preseason. GO WILDCATS!

But it is baseball time now. Grandson played in a 12 & younger tournament in Cooperstown this weekend. In two games yesterday he had 4 at bats (2 in each game), 4 home runs (including a grand slam), and 12 RBI.

Thanks for the fine Monday puzzle, Aaron Neville John Fogarty. And thanks to Boomer for another fine write-up. Not an open frame in the bunch.

Hahtoolah said...

Good Morning, Boomer and friends. Interesting puzzle. I never heard of GOOF TROOP, and the "R" was the last to fall in this puzzle as I wasn't familiar with SALERNO, either.

I recently build a huge garden in my backyard and I planted several varieties of ROSES. The stems are, indeed, the Prickly part of the plant. My lemon tree also has thorns.

QOD: Egotism ~ usually just a case of mistaken nonentity. ~ Barbara Stanwyck (née Ruby Catherine Stevens, July 16, 1907 ~ Jan. 20, 1990)

thehondohurricane said...


The B in BAHAHMEN & BRITA was my only wag today & it certainly saved my butt.

I'm not sure if it was only one time, or more then once, but the Alou brothers formed the entire out field for the Giants in a game. A first that still stands to day.The Dimggio's all played for different teams. Dom, the Red Sox, Joe, Yankees, and Vince, the Pirates. There may have been another team or two. Vince had the shortest career. I'll bet they did form the entire outfield somewhere though... a semi-pro league or some offseason exhibition game.


Well, today is it for me. I'm retiring from the daily commentary. I'll continue to read the comments most of the time & may comment from time to time if something is sticking in my craw. I do thank everyone for putting up with my blather and do apologize to any that I may have offended along the way. Sooooooo,

See ya.



Anonymous said...

Is there a story behind “the famous bloody sock pitcher?”

desper-otto said...

SALERNO reminds me of this product from my ute.

Hondo, I'm sure you've got your reasons, and I'd love to hear 'em. Hate to see you go.

TOADS, that's funny Jinx. Gotta disagree though, I don't think the users are disappearing.

Yellowrocks said...

I liked the five double double O's in this puzzle. The theme was evident early on. I loved Ewe's guys=RAMS
Hondo, I will miss your comments. I have always enjoyed them.
Boomer, I wondered about your carp about carp. I see carp are considered an invasive species that out-competes the native species. Carp are used for food in Europe and other places. Wikipedia: Hungarian Fisherman's soup, a specially prepared fish soup of carp alone or mixed with other freshwater fish, is part of the traditional meal for Christmas Eve in Hungary along with stuffed cabbage and poppy seed roll and walnut roll.
In PA, NJ, NY and other nearby states we never say pop for soda.
Jinx, congrats to your grandson for his good show at Cooperstown.
Thanks for all who missed me and welcomed me back. See my post last night. This was a very low intensity type vacation, time to just kick back and relax. Alan enjoyed it, too. He had headaches and dizziness for several hours on a few days, but we had TV and he had his little personal DVD/CD player. He participated in most of what we did. When he rested I enjoyed sitting in the rocker on the porch with my Kindle or I spent time with my sister.

Anonymous said...

Yellowrocks- I see that you are a fan of historical novels. Gore Vidal has written entertaining, insightful and wonderful ones. "Julian" is my favorite.

Madame Defarge said...

Good Morning,

Thanks, Neville, I needed that. I was very frustrated yesterday because I could not afford the time for P & P. Pretty breezy first pass followed by some logical skill. Fave today: SCHWA. I remember my girls all dressed up for Easter and having to wear their MOONBOOTS. Bah!!

Boomer, nicely done again. When I was in HS, the SAT was the Scholastic Achievement Test. Too hoi-polloi to be politically correct so the Educational Testing Service renamed it. Bad news is students today would barely make the cut on the old test and its companion academic subject tests: writing, Chemistry, History et al. The U of Chicago just announced they are going to make it an option.

I've always liked John Glenn. He seemed a such a fine individual.

Good luck in your Pro Am!!!!

SwampCat from ??: Eh, bien. Your French may be Cajun, but my seldom used spoken French is not Parisian but Chicagoan. ;-)

Have a sunny day everyone.

PS Hondo--please do try to stop by!

Jay Green said...

Audit or observe?

Spitzboov said...

Good morning everyone.

Boomer doing yeoman duty again. Thanks. Solve went pretty fast; especially after all the double OO's were sussed. FIR.
ALEX - Canadian Eh! is a much more favorite Canadian.
"Dig in!" - EAT - When our noon meal dinner guests were augmented by the seasonal threshing crew, my Dad would say "Hau rin";
L. German for the same thing.

Have a great day.

Jay Green said...

Oh, here's a good one I haven't thought of in years, "sidelining", or sitting on the bench observing while not participating. She was sodeliside the blog, reading, but not posting.

Jay Green said...

That should have said she was sidelining the blog. Damn you autocorrect. What on Earth is sodeliside?

desper-otto said...

I think it's similar to covfefe.

OwenKL said...

sodeliside Google(en) has never seen it, my translate says it means "gardening", tho doesn't say what language.
Audit sounds better.
Covfefe would probably mean posting without reading, rather than the other way around.

Lemonade714 said...

The story of the miracle Red Sox and the BLOODY SOCK

PK said...

Hi Y'all! Fun & fast, Neville. Thanks. Also thanks to Boomer, and good lucking bowling.

The oo-oo theme was cute. CSO to Lemony's bride?

DNK: BAHAMEN or SALERNO. Didn't know BAHAMEN last time either.

ASCOT: Boomer, maybe you need more theatrical EGO to wear one. I bet Keith could pull it off.

My mom talked about singing in Glee Club in college. She gave birth to 5 kids which is probably evidence she was female.

My daughter sang Crystal Gale's "Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue" for her talent showing the night she relinquished her title as County Junior Miss. Lots of applause for her. She does have big brown eyes too.

Many years ago Long John Silver's Restaurant sent a crew of fishermen to seine CARP from our lake under the watchful eyes of State Fish & Game Wardens. They were supposed to throw back any more desirable fish such as bass & crappie. LJS intended to serve the CARP to customers and didn't want the story in the newspaper. It was printed anyway. Breaded & fried, who knew?

Yellowrocks, glad you're back and had a soul refreshing time. Hondo, we'll miss you.

PK said...

Come on guys, blame those strange words on fumble fingers and go on. LOL!

TTP said...


Good morning. Thank you Neville and Boomer.

Welcome back Yellowrocks.
Sorry to see you leave Hondo.

Boomer, you are an Am ? You're a Pro in my book.

TARTEST - DW brought home a bottle of Tart Cherry Juice concentrate from Aldi the other day. Poured a little in a glass, and tried it without diluting it. Don't think I'll do that again. Was never a great fan of Sweet Tarts either.

EPISODE - Like in Seinfeld, Season 2, Episode 3 "The Jacket" wherein Cosmo Kramer asks Jerry, "Hey, would you do me a solid?" Jerry’s response was, “Well, what kind of solid?”

Jinx, nice feat by your grandson. Scott Boras will be calling soon.

There are many Salerno's pizzerias and restaurants in Chicagoland. The one in nearby St Charles used to be a favorite. Chairman Moe probably ate there when he lived in St Charles.



Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

I think perhaps Neville is an animal lover, to wit: Termites, Camel, Rams, Carp, Apes, Asses, Pests and a Baa and a Bray, to boot. This was a fun solve with nary a w/o but a couple of unknowns: Goof Troop, Baha Men, and Moon Boots. I was waiting for a reveal, but once I filled in Goof Troop, I knew there wasn't one and that the theme was just the double OOs.

Thanks, Neville, for a nice and easy start to the week and thanks, Boomer, for the comical commentary. Good luck at the ProAm.

YR, welcome back. Glad you and Alan had a relaxing and nostalgic vacation.

Hondo, you will be missed. Stop by every now and then.

Jinx, kudos to your grandson. He (and you) must be as proud as a peacock, deservedly so!

FLN

CC, I think your "distressing" solution is a good one!

Michael, I Googled "Fleek" and found that it means something good or smooth and that it's been around for quite awhile. Who knew? (Certainly not Moi!)

Another hot and humid day with no relief until Wednesday.

Have a great day.

Yellowrocks said...

The good old schwa, both a character and a sound. Brings back my teaching days.
Madame D, I agree about the old tests. When I first taught I had "challenges" for bright kids who ran through their assignments quickly. The kids enjoyed them. In the later days I had to shelve these "challenges" because hardly anyone could do them. I think what was missing was P&P. I sensed that the shorter attention spans and the need for instant gratification in this computer age had something to do with it. I realize that somewhere along the line the computer techie types have developed P&P and spend long hours puzzling things out. I admire them.

I am finding another advantage of bed and breakfast vacations over camping, you don't have to clean and store the equipment. There is only a week's worth of dirty laundry to wash and an empty refrigerator to fill. Not bad.

GJ said...

Good Monday, although, I confidently filled in 62A "ScoobyDoo". It followed the theme, it fit, it was a cartoon, and it had a classic dog. Quickly realized something was wrong but am not familiar with GOOFTROOP. I agree, Boomer, CARP are considered garbage fish unfit for eating where I used to wet a line. Apparently not in Hungary where they must be awful hungry to eat one.

oc4beach said...


A nice speed run from Nevile. I was able to ZooooM through it in record time. However, I went through it so fast, I didn't recognize the theme until Boomer 'splained it in his enjoyable write-up.

I only had to change BAJAMEN to BAHAMEN. I knew the answer from listening to Sirius/XM radio "oldies" of One-Hit-Wonders recently. I guess I was thinking of the BAJA California peninsula.

YR @ 8:06am: I don't totally agree with POP not being used in PA. At least in central and western PA it was POP when I was growing up. Now, however I hear both Soda and Pop here. Usually some of the older gentry still say POP and the "utes" say Soda.

I don't know where this year is going, but it is already more than half over. They are already advertising "back-to-school" sales.

Enjoy the day.




Misty said...

Fun Monday puzzle--many thanks, Neville--only the _AHAMEN had me a bit puzzled. Owen and Irish Miss, I too liked seeing all the animals this morning, a nice substitute for famous people. Lemonade, thanks for the shout-out to B OO mer with the double OO theme. Anyway, a Monday treat, and Boomer, what lovely roses you posted.

Jay Green, audit and observe are nice alternatives to stalk and lurk. I was also thinking of "watch."

Yellowrocks, so glad you and Alan had a relaxing vacation.

We'll miss you, Hondo--please visit us a lot.

Have a good week, everybody!

PK said...

Jinx: congrats to your home run champ grandson! My 17-yr-old grandson was in a baseball tournament over the weekend too, but I haven't heard if they won or lost. My grandson pitches. All I heard from my son before one game was over: "it is 101 degrees and no shade to watch in." I told him my grandson wouldn't need to warm up to pitch then. I also thought it was cruel and unusual punishment to have to sit on bleachers in that heat. Never heard back. Hope he didn't have a heat stroke or something.

CanadianEh! said...

Quick Monday fill today. Thanks for the fun Neville and Boomer. (LOL re RASPutin)
Theme went over my head in my rush to get here. Nice CSO to Oo.
I needed perps for BAHA MEN although I remember the song being played at the hockey rink.

Favourite word for the day was PANACHE (instead of the usual Elan).

I must have missed the proper pronunciation for PHO (I googled and see it is fuh). Not faux but is it a SCHWA?
I'm not sure if my Canadian pronunciation of "above" is a SCHWA.
We call SODA pop here.

Boomer, I smiled at your comment about ALEX not being your favourite Canadian. I have not seen him in that commercial. Thanks Spitz for giving me the honour of being your favourite Canadian!

I noted REO and RIO, and HAUL and TOWED; Plus those thorns in one's side and prickly flowers (I agree it is the stems that are prickly).

I have used BRITA filters for years. I used to be able to recycle the used filters at Walmart, and more recently by printing a shipping label from website and mailing, but program seems to have changed and I am not sure how to recycle them.

Enjoy the day.

Lucina said...

Happy Monday! Thanks to Neville Fogarty and to Boomer! Good luck, Boomer, in your tournament!

This was a straightforward puzzle full of O's. Oh, that was the theme? Many animals are scattered about, too.

I, also, didn't get BAHAMEN he last time it appeared.

One of my friends introduced me to BRITA many years ago when she wanted a BRITA coffee maker for her birthday. In those days fewer stores existed and I scoured the city trying to find one; I finally did in a shop that sold Italian groceries.

Hondo:
I wish you well in your endeavors and know that you will be missed.

YR:
Welcome back! It sounds like you had a lovely, restful vacation.

I didn't have a chance to finish yesterday's Jumble and may or may not today and don't want to visit the J site because the answers might be already posted.

Have a splendid day, everyone!

AnonymousPVX said...

A Monday speed run for me, the only stumble was 19A SOFTA b4 SCHWA but that was quickly remedied by crosses. And that was that.

Take care, Hondo.

CrossEyedDave said...

Hello Cornerites,
I have been "Lurking" the past couple of days
as I was kind of busy.

Fare The Well Hondo!
(but don't hesitate to post if you feel like it...)

I have thought of giving up the Crossword Blog myself
from time to time, but it has become an obsession.
I find that I enjoy learning new things,
or falling down the YouTube Leporid hole caused by some ones link.

Anon-T, the intro to the Rush (RasH) tour was hilarious!
Also, I am broke, so I would never pay $9- to amazon for anything.
Hmm, but Daughter #2 has an Amazon Prime account, maybe I can get her
to buy the Rush Docs for me...

And,

There are also the PSA's!
(for instance)
(you Teachers will love this one)

And,

I have been overheating since I lost my little battery operated fan.
So I bought a new one. Bladeless!
But I could smell the ozone from the motor in the handle.
Turns out Ozone will damage your lungs!
(I was wondering why I felt I had a Asthma after using the dang thing!)
So get rid of any handheld fans, or Ozone generating air cleaners,
they will make you sick!
(I am going to make my own fan out of a piece of cardboard, the olde fashioned way!)

CC, one last tip for the stain,
if all else fails, dye the pants yellow!

Oh, and the puzzle?
I dunno,
I see the theme differently...

AnonymousPVX said...

ANON-T...from Saturday, apologies for the misdirection...it was actually from CED’s Friday entry.

Bill G said...

Thanks Neville and Boomer. It was easy-peasy fun.

Hondo, I'll miss your input. Thanks for the ride...

Re. Alex Trebek; On the one hand, I respect his intelligence and knowledge. However, he often enjoys displaying his sense of humor. I don't think that having a good sense of humor is one of his strengths. Secondly, it's often slightly embarrassing when he corrects a contestant's pronunciation. I guess maybe he thinks it's part of his job description.

I just heard a respected newsperson say, "... a whole nother thing." Do you use that figure of speech too? I thought maybe it was just me.

Husker Gary said...

Musings
-Theme? Looked but not found or necessary
-MOON BOOTS look like modern day UGGS
-I’ve been in SCHOOL ROOMS every year since 1951
-My bride got caught up in this BEAD craze of the 80’s
-Hitting “OER the land of the FREE” separates the amateurs from the pros
-Golden Crisp (nee Sugar Crisp) after Sugar was dropped from most cereal names
-Last night 60 Minutes had a feature about Confederate statues on Richmond, VA’s Monument Row and how this statue has now joined them
-My H.S. had a Boy’s and Girl’s Glee Club
-CARP soup? Not around here
-Movie goers know what was hidden behind the POSTER in Shawshank Redemption
-I would think a gardener would have a bagful of SEED and a wheelbarrow full of SOIL
-Say it ain’t so, Hondo! Good luck, my friend!

Roy said...

I agree with CED, the theme title should be Arnold Horshak. He posted my chosen link before I did.

Also had BAjA MEN.

In New England, I grew up with soda. First encountered POP in Western PA. In the 70's ads began using soda pop. So, go figure!

Jayce said...

I liked this puzzle. The OO gimmick was kind of fun. Never heard of GOOF TROOP so of course I filled in GOOFY and used the perps to see what the rest of it would be. GOOFY ROOP and CURY didn't make sense so GOOF TROOP it had to be. Udder 'n' at it was nice and easy.

Boomer, loved your RASP utin comment.

I will miss your posts, thehondohurricane. Like desper-otto, I'd love to know why you are retiring from the daily commentary. And like Misty, I hope you please visit us a lot.

LW and I have been drinking BRITA filtered water for years.

Yes, Bill G, I often say "It's a whole nother thing" or "That's a whole nother story." I also agree with you about Alex Trebek correcting contestants' pronunciation. I find it a bit annoying and patronizing. But yeah, I suppose it might be part of his job, to clarify for us viewers what the right answer is.

Best wishes to you all.

triple crown said...

I'm a female with an alto voice, and many years ago I sang in Glee Club in Middle School. In my opinion, the clue is correct.

Misty said...

Well, I guess I have to say that Alex Trebek is a favorite Canadian of mine, because he also features and promotes Canadian players and themes, which I like. I also like that he is more like a real person than a polished performer, not someone cracking professional jokes, and acting out for our benefit, which is why his sense of humor is not very polished. But then I've been a fan of his for decades, and he's never let me down.

Speaking of Canada, my favorite TV show these days is "Murdoch Mysteries," which is set in Toronto back in the thirties or so, and has wonderful responsible characters. I watch it faithfully every Sunday evening.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Boomer ~
I know for a fact that it doesn't take money to sport an ASCOT.
PK (above) is right - maybe it just takes a flair for drama!
Here's the proof: Keith With Ascot, a selfie shot in 1960!

But the only time I ever wore it was when I was a grad student in Ol' Blighty. How many students do you know with the big bucks, or, er... grand guineas?
(PS. I never wore it in public, just around the flat. They're great leisure wear in a cold climate.)

Today's pzl by Mr. Fogarty was a snap. I didn't hesitate once but whizzed on through. My only erasure was to change BAJA MEN to the wrong but in this case correct BAHA MEN.

~ OMK

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Diagonal Report:
Another day without a slant.

Lucina said...

I love ALEX Trebek! If he corrects the pronunciation of some contestants it is, I believe, his job, as has been noted. And I imagine that viewers would write to the program asking why he didn't correct it; people are just that way.

I wish you all a happy and productive week with puzzles and jumbles and Owen writing brilliant poetry. Where is Chairman Moe, speaking of poetry?

I'll see you in a week!

desper-otto said...

Lucina, the Chairman said his farewell to the corner last week. He apparently has other fish to fry.

Triple crown, your name intrigues me. Are you descended from royalty, or are you into horse racing, or perhaps you have a mouthful of expensive dentistry? What's your story?

Ol' Man Keith said...

A reminder to Misty and any other Jumblers to visit the new page. Please join us.
Owen's poetry is especially rich and should not be missed!

Just click on this Jumble Link.

~ OMK

Yellowrocks said...

oc4beach, I forgot that the western half of PA has a way of speaking that is different from ours in many instances. I am well acquainted with the eastern half of PA from Harrisburg to the shore. I have never heard POP there. My older sister and her family in Illinois always say pop. My college roommate from the South called soda or pop, coke. She called the brand name, Coke Cola. Here is a chart that shows where pop, coke and soda are said.
chart
I like Alex very much. I don't understand the criticism of him. I would be disappointed if he changed his persona.
Square dance tonight. I am disinclined to go, but I am co-president and obligated. I know once I get there I will totally get into it and enjoy it. Similarly, Alan is disinclined to go to work every day, but when I pick him up later he always has had a good day. I have stopped trying to decide whether he should stay home and whether I am making a good decision. I say,"Go any way," and have learned to stop revisiting my decision because 99% of the time I am right. His problem is that it takes him several hours to become fully awake, no matter what time he goes to bed or gets up.
I can understand former regulars not having time to comment, but it puzzles me that they are still auditing (lurking) and following some of the links, which takes longer than posting a comment. When I am tempted not to post, I plan on commenting sometimes to keep in touch. When friends move away we do not hear from them every day, but we both chime in from time to time. I really miss Marti and Barry and will miss the Chairman with his interesting poetry and HH. Please, maybe send a Christmas or birthday post or whatever.

Jinx in Norfolk said...

Thanks to all on grandson comments. I had to Google agent Scott Boras. I'm hoping for a college scholarship for now. PK, he's a very good left-handed pitcher as well. Until after high school it's pretty common for the star pitcher to also be the star hitter.

Yellowrocks, I've been thinking about you and especially Alan. Glad to hear he coped well. And camping is better when the motor home has a washer/dryer. AND I don't have to check the sheets for bedbugs.

"A whole nother thing" ranks right up there with "no problem" answering "thank you". At first I thought it was just a California thing. And from the other day "BOGO". To be accurate it should be "BOGOF". Now GET OF MY LAWN!

PSA came back way too high. After a course of cipro I'll retest. DW's annual mammogram came back with a spot which we biopsied. We'll get lab results Friday. Scary couple of weeks in the Jinx household.

My mother always called it Coca Cola, but pronounced it "Cocola". Kind of like the way Californians pronounce San Bernardino.

Lemonade714 said...

I vote for "auditing" the blog when you read but do not comment. Much like auditing a course in college where you sit in but do not speak and get no credit.

Boomer, best of luck for your tournament.

My title, if it were my blog day would go back to an old favorite from long before Horshack GUNTHER TOOTY

HH, say it ain't so. Hang in like Kazie and some other long_timers who still stop by now and then.

Jinx, hope it is all nothing for both.

Anonymous T said...

Hi All!

Fun Monday puzzle, Neville, with a GOOFy theme. Boomer, you're GOOFY (in a good way!) too; cute expo.

WO: N/A
ESP: SALERNO
Fav: HOT ROD - have, I mentioned the new Alfa recently? :-)

{B, A-}. Also, LOL wiveS @9a.

No! Say it ain't so Hondo! //awe man, HG beat me to it...

LEM - It was the 2003 NLCS when Bartman spoiled ALOU's catch (not the World Series). That was the 1st year I switched my allegiance from the Cubs to the Astros (and now their in the NLCS???). Two more years 'till the Astros got to the Big Game / heart-break (against CHI-Sox).

MdF - Ballerinas still wear MOON BOOTS to go over their slippers. Ask me how I know they cost >$50 :-)

D-O: You're always funny (haha, not peculiar) but covfefe @9:36 was over the top LOL!
To D4's question - stalk is creepy; lurk less so. Jay's sidelining makes sense but seems like you were put there not by choice. What do you call someone at the dance that just likes to enjoy observing? //Observer won't work; SciFi made that creepy too.

FLN - C.C. LOL! I'm sure you can pull off the "distressed" look.

CED - I'm glad you're enjoying RUSH and their humour.

I wasn't thinking of an AUTO @38a but the band REO Speedwagon [Keep on ROOOOLin'].

OMK - great AS-SCOT! You rock'd it.

Happy Trails Lucina! [you're probably at the airport already].

Cheers, -T

Wilbur Charles said...

And in Boston we called it tonic.

That of course would be Jesus Alou. Moises was a son of Felipe I think.
Oops lemony nailed it.

Hondo, it could have been the SF Seals. Dom might have been too young in 1936 when Joe joined the Yankees.
Yep. LIU, 1937 for Dom.
I see I never changed TOTED to TOWED, thus I missed SCHWA. I originally had ACUTE as in the French.
We should CSO Lemonade on OO.

Misty, on your recommendation I taped Murdoch and watched an episode. It was about the assassination of McKinley and the arrests of Emma Goldman and other anarchists in Canada (1900). I had a hard time following it. One probably has to read the books by ??
Jinx you must love "Whatever".
Boomer another entertaining write-up.
I remember Webber along with a real oldie: Don Carter.

WC

Jayce said...

I think when Anonymous-T says things like "Sunday lurker" everybody knows what he means and knows there is not a trace of creepiness in it. I dare say the same about Mimi using the word stalking; at least I know I understood her to connote nothing at all negative or creepy. Why challenge someone to come up with a solution to a problem that doesn't exist?

Yellowrocks, you often say "I don't understand why ..." Have you even tried to understand?
I guess I could, in that same vein, aver that I don't understand how someone does not try to, and cannot, see something from the other person's point of view. You seem ever so forgiving when you cut a constructor a lot of slack in what others may have seen as sloppy cluing or disliked in some way.

Yellow's Little Sister said...

Amen, Jayce! YR doesn't make mistakes.

Lemonade714 said...

Thank you for correcting me on the reference to the 2003 NLCS/World Series. Being a Marlin Fan I remembered it well and thoroughly enjoyed the WS victory over the Yankees. I just make more mistakes these days.

Oo spells her name with a little o but it does work.

SwampCat said...

Interesting war over soft drinks. Surely we have fought over soda vs pop, and I, also, have heard Cocola. We strange folks in the south call it all “Coke”. As in do you want a coke? Sure, a 7-up.

Fun puzzle, fun write up. Thanks all.

Lemonade714 said...

A blast from the Corner past, here is a sale of MORELS . Say hi.

Misty said...

Handsome picture with ascot, Ol'Man Keith! Can't be a half-century ago, can it?

Anonymous T said...

Swamp - so true, so true. I grew up in Springfield, IL w/ Soda and Sodie-pop, ever so sometimes, it was just a Pop (hey, that's my dad!). When I moved to Shreveport in '85, I was offered a coke at every occasion and got a Dr. Pepper or some such (never a Pepsi - no such thing// I didn't like Pepsi anyway; too sweet).

'Course, a year or two later, at 17yro, it was all just beer :-)

Cheers, -T

Misty said...

Wilbur, that was a really complicated Murdoch episode--and I kept wondering what, if any of it, could be historically accurate. I should have researched it, just to see.

Misty said...

P.S. That was a great Owen Poem on his Jumble site, Ol'Man Keith.

SwampCat said...

Misty, you are so right! Owen don’t neglect us here at the corner. Please, please post the poems to both!!

SwampCat said...

Jayce, I agree. We don’t need solutions if there is no problem! I think we all get hung up on words instead of what was meant.

Lucina said...

Thank you, but no I'm not. My flight has been delayed over an hour! We'll get into San Francisco at nearly midnight and then to our destination much later. Ah, well, better than falling and breaking your nose.

Lemonade714 said...

OMK you looked like Johnny Carson with chin whiskers.

SwampCat said...

My son was chosen for a prestigious appearance when high school guys were required to wear ties. He, being a rebel like his mother , wore an ascot. Much discussion ensued. Finally he was allowed to wear the alternate neckwear.

He has since avered he was wrong in unnecessarily challenging meaningless norms. Ascots remain in my wheelhouse!! Lol

SwampCat said...

OMK, I thought you were lovely!!

PK said...

Jinx, keeping positive thoughts and crossed fingers for the best results for both you and your wife.

Yep, Keith, I was right about the ascot.

SwampCat, too funny about your son's neckwear rebellion.

Jinx: my grandson is a lefty too and hoping for a scholarship. The college rounds have begun and he's been in some serious scouting exhibitions & interviews. He had one coach promise him a full scholarship but the school is small & not where he could get what he wants for a business career. He worked with an injured pro pitcher last summer who gave him a big boost. The situation is very time-consuming right now for him and his father, my son. They've traveled an amazing amount of time for this. My son didn't play sports after jr. high so I am surprised.

Wilbur Charles said...

Misty, I LIU on Emma. She WAS arrested. But the anarchists didn't get to Canada. She was arrested in Buffalo.

Re. Xword. Some new words like UPSHOT, CRYSTAL.. Mixed with Tuesday level.

WC