17. *Spot for a seaside stroll: BOARDWALK. Keyboard.
25. *Caller ID, maybe: RINGTONE. Keyring.
54. *Small computer: NOTEBOOK. Keynote.
66. *Center stage: LIMELIGHT. Key lime.
39. Hemingway's 1930s Florida home, and a hint to the answers to starred clues: KEY WEST.
Theme is self-explanatory, but tricky to get without the reveal - which was clever. The word KEY can be inserted to the left, or WEST, of each theme answer to form a new word or phrase. This felt more like a Thursday to me due to a few unknown and obscure words.
Across:
1. "Oh dear!": ALAS.
5. Instant: JIFF.
9. Harry's Hogwarts nemesis: DRACO. Harry Potter and Draco Malfoy.
14. Hay storage site: LOFT.
15. Puccini piece: ARIA.
16. Prepare for a bodybuilding competition: OIL UP. Bodybuilders use oil to accentuate their muscle definitions and the 'cuts' in their bodies when flexing under heavy stage lighting.
19. Tax audit docs.: RCPTS. Receipts.
20. Jag: SPREE.
21. Wisconsin city on Lake Winnebago: NEENAH. From Wikipedia: "Named by Governor James Duane Doty from the Hoocąk word for "water" or "running water." It was the site of a Ho-Chunk village in the late 18th century. It is Nįįňą in the Hoocąk language."
23. Actor Vigoda: ABE.
29. __ onion: BERMUDA.
33. Brigham Young's Utah settlement: DESERET. When the Mormons first came to the territory, they named
the area The State of Deseret, a reference to the honeybee in The Book
of Mormon. This was the official name of the colony from 1849 to
1850. The nickname, "The Deseret State," is in reference to Utah's original name. See here.
34. Corrida cheer: OLE. Corrida = bullfight. (Nice crossing with 30D, Corrida snorter.)
35. Prime-time time: NINE. The term prime time is often defined in terms of a fixed time period – for example (in the United States),
from 8:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. (Eastern and Central Time) or 7:00 p.m. to
10:00 p.m. (Mountain and Pacific Time). In India and other Middle East
countries, prime time consists of the programs that are aired on TV
between 7:30 p.m. and 10:30 p.m. local time.
37. Hardly prudent: RASH.
38. Overseas business abbr.: LTD. The abbreviation "Ltd." stands for "limited," and a company carrying this abbreviation has the same limited liability feature as an LLC. Partners and owners in the company are protected from personal responsibility for debts and lawsuits.
43. UPS Store item: CTN. My best guess is that this is an abbreviation for carton, or container. Anyone?
44. Broadway barber: TODD. Sweeny Todd.
46. Leave rolling in the aisles: SLAY.
47. Summer sign: LEO. Astrological sign.
48. Sets right: ORIENTS.
52. Title role for Gary Cooper and Adam Sandler: MR. DEEDS. The original is a 1936 Frank Capra film Mr. Deeds Goes to Town. The remake received poor reviews.
56. Tummy muscles: ABS.
57. Like most customers: PAYING.
59. Opinion pieces: OPEDS.
63. Charter: LEASE. As a verb, reserve (an aircraft, boat, or bus) for private use.
68. Respected figure: ELDER.
69. Document sent online: E-FAX. Interesting distinction, I guess you send an E-FAX from your computer, and a FAX from a fax machine.
70. Hungarian wine region: EGER. The 61D crossing makes this tough for people who don't follow baseball.
71. 7UP and Sprite: SODAS.
72. Comfy hangouts: DENS.
73. Extinct bird: DODO.
Down:
1. Clerical vestments: ALBS.
2. Stunt flier's stunt: LOOP.
3. Not nigh: AFAR.
4. Water under the bridge, maybe: STREAM. Nice.
5. Shoot the breeze: JAW.
6. OPEC member: IRAN.
7. Manicurist or secretary, at times: FILER.
8. Minor document?: FAKE ID. Great clue.
9. Hip-hop tops: DO-RAGS.
10. Seismologist with a scale: RICHTER. Charles Francis Richter; April 26, 1900 – September 30, 1985 was
an American seismologist and physicist.
Richter is most famous as the creator of the Richter magnitude scale,
which, until the development of the moment magnitude scale in 1979,
quantified the size of earthquakes.
11. European peak: ALP.
12. Shorten, as hair: CUT.
13. Covert doings: OPS. A shortened version of operations and considered a word by itself. Others in today's puzzle are ABS and OPEDS.
18. Prove false: DEBUNK.
22. 22.5 deg.: NNE.
24. Singer Brickell: EDIE. Married to Paul Simon since 1992.
26. Software giant: ORACLE.
27. Settled in: NESTED.
28. Group with a common culture: ETHNOS.
29. Crooner Michael: BOLTON.
30. Corrida snorter: EL TORO. (Nice crossing of 34D, Corrida cheer.)
31. Social website with "AMA" sessions: REDDIT. Ask Me Anything.
32. "__ takers?": ANY.
36. Grossed-out sounds: EWS.
40. Blight-stricken tree: ELM. Dutch elm
disease, widespread fungoid killer of elms and certain
other trees, first described in the Netherlands. Spread by bark beetles,
the disease has decimated elm populations throughout much of Europe and North America.
The leaves on one or more branches of a stricken tree suddenly wilt, turn dull green to yellow or brown, curl, and may drop early.
The leaves on one or more branches of a stricken tree suddenly wilt, turn dull green to yellow or brown, curl, and may drop early.
41. "Water for Elephants" novelist Gruen: SARA.
42. Bathroom brand: TY-D-BOL. Tricky if you're not familiar with the brand spelling.
45. Like some diving: DEEP SEA.
49. Cavs and Mavs: NBA-ERS.
50. Cracker Jack bonus: TOY. Collector's items.
51. Dirty: SOILED.
53. Saw: ESPIED.
55. Roast carver: KNIFE.
58. Guy with the FBI: G-MAN. Short for "government man" is an American slang term for agents of the United States Government. It is especially used as a term for an agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
60. Waffle made without an iron: EGGO.
61. Batted but didn't field, in MLB lingo: DHED. From the MLB glossary - A designated hitter is a player who bats in place of the pitcher. The pitcher still handles his
regular duties when his team is on defense, so the designated hitter
does not play in the field.
62. Texas MLBer: STRO. Houston Astro.
63. Guitar great Paul: LES.
64. "Evil Woman" gp.: ELO.
65. Put in: ADD.
67. Strait's "All My __ Live in Texas": EXS. Unexpected spelling, but it's what all the lyrics show.
40 comments:
By far the most difficult Wednesday in recent memory. Wisconsin city on Lake Winnebago: NEENAH ; Brigham Young's Utah settlement: DESERET ; and, "Water for Elephants" novelist Gruen: SARA were all challenging, especially the Wisconsin city.
The theme and reveal were fun, and I enjoyed being educated and reminded of such a moving BOOK which was turned into a movie with REESE WITHERSPOON
Thank you, Gary and mb, always a pleasure.
Good morning.
Perhaps it was just me, but I found Gary's puzzle tougher than a normal Wednesday. Got it done without help, but it took some time to work out a few sections. Good challenge.
Thank you, Melissa !
Funnily, I ruled out Tidy Bowl at "Bathroom brand" before working out TY-D-BOL.
Loved the clue "Sets right" for ORIENTS.
Gab to yak to JAW.
Vidalia to BERMUDA.
Box to CTN.
Appleton, no, Oshkosh, no. Fond du Lac, no. NEENAH, yes. Neenah sounds like a childish taunt. It is a fine town.
Did not know:
SARA
DRACO
DESERET
MR DEEDS
EGER
I had to disconnect my third telephone line from my home office 4-in-1 machine back in the day, and then reconnect it every time I needed to send or receive a fax. My fax telephone number must have ended up on some bulletin board site. It would spit out spam faxes every day. I was relieved of the burden when more and more companies adopted e-signing and e-fax became available. My final home re-fi in 2003 was entirely e-sign and e-fax.
Misspelling of Ricktor (Richtor) gave me Neenak (Neenah).
I was convinced it was MRlEEDS and couldn't let go. Also, I only hear about the RICHTER scale. Otherwise, it was easy (for a DNF).
Good morning!
Stumbled here and there, but no major problems. Failed to read the complete reveal clue...again. As a result, d-o failed to get the theme...again. Thanx, Gary (you're becoming a real regular around here) and Melissa Bee.
ELM: Our little town had hundreds of elm trees in the 50's...and then it didn't.
EXS: In the song his EXS live in Texas, which is why he lives in Tennessee. I live in Texas, and my EX lived in Tennessee.
NEENAH: Gimme. One of my sisters lived there for years. Neenah and Menasha are known as the twin cities of the Fox River Valley.
ORACLE: They write software that's supposed to be suitable for every business. As a result, it's not really suitable for any business. They do have a good database, though.
RICHTER: I wasn't aware that this scale had been obsoleted. I still hear it. Jayce, maybe you can chime in about this.
Just a "meh" puzzle that took nine and one-half minutes.
"CTN," whatever it is, is a poor answer; having it intersect "ethnos" didn't help.
CTN is an abbr for carton.
C.C. has a puzzle HEAD BANDS over at USA Today.
Dash T, make sure you do it.
Self explanatory? Not to this DODO. Now I see that WEST is left on the 'map'. Duh!
Good morning. A nice first of the week (for me) puzzle with just a few unknowns filled by perps- DRACO, MR. DEEDS, NEENAH, SARA Gruen. TY-D-BOL was my last fill. Having never bought it, I didn't know how it was spelled.
I knew the REDDIT fill from the same clue last week.
TTP- print the damned thing out. EFAX- I know how to do it but I find it easier just to print it out and FAX it the old fashioned way.
I thought my prophecy was being fulfilled when I typed SLEW into 46a. Well almost, but it SLAYed my reputation as a seer. Speaking of seers and prophets, I was a Mormon for almost 2 decades, including a year at BYU in Utah, so DESERET could have been a CSO to me.
If you were a grandma from NEENAH
Would you want to be known as "Meemaa"?
For your grandkiddies, wee,
Do a TOY-buying SPREE?
Have them climb up on your knee? Nah!
When Brigham Young planned DESERET
He wasn't in the desert, yet.
The Mormon ELDER
Just wanted shelter
From the government, so headed WEST!
{A-, B+.}
FIR, thanks to correctly wagging SA_A x M_DEEDS. No erasing - odd for such a tuffy.
The stack of V8 cans fell when I finally gave up on thinking of a synonym for "tropic" at "22.5 deg." Fun that it was at 22d. Had the same problem the last time we had this C/A. I keep forgetting that tropics are at 23.5, not 22.5.
I liked that the last starred fill tied into the unifier - KEY LIME pie, one of my favorites when made properly. If I see one with green filing, I automatically pass it by.
ORACLE is a huge supporter of sailboat racing, thanks to the influence of Larry Ellison.
EFAX is a brand name. I have the free version, which is receive-only. But I haven't gotten a fax message in a year or longer.
Thanks t Gary for the fun. In addition to the placement at 22d, I liked 'water under the bridge" for STREAM and "minor document" for FAKE ID. And thanks to melissa b for the always interesting and fun tour.
Lovely puzzle, although it took too long to solve for a Wednesday, even though there were not many unfamiliar answers. Glad I was not alone in this. FIR.
I doubted NEENAH, but the perps were strong. TODD and REDDIT were all perps. I know of the play title, but didn't know Todd was a slasher barber. I will have to remember REDDIT.
The ending of ETHNOS for ethnic group slowed me down, but only N made sense. LIU after solving. It is valid, but Spellcheck flags it. Yay! Another new word to add to my vocabulary. If we dismiss new words as invalid it is easier to forget them
ABC run gave me ORACLE. V8 can moment. Couldn't dredge it up without the ABC run. With the C, the UPS store item had to be CTN, and ETHNOS was confirmed. CTN is a common abbr. and a common UPS store item. Duh, again.
I loved Water for Elephants as a book and as a film. I read the book twice.
Is head wear called a top? I thought of DO RAG right away, but I do not consider it a top, like a shirt would be. Perps confirmed this, too.
I am surprised Richter Scale is obsolete. I see it was replaced a long time ago.
I have tried using regular limes in key lime pie. My guests can't tell the difference.
key lime pie
The solve was steady - but it did take me a minute to make the connection of KEY WEST to the theme answers.
There are a whole group of cities and towns that make up the Fox Cities of Wisconsin - Appleton, NEENAH, and Menasha being the largest. NEENAH is famous for where Kimberly Clark started (known for Kleenex and Huggies).
The street I grew up on was lined with very old elms- so sad when they all just had to be taken down when I was in grade school when the Dutch Elm disease hit. I drove by to visit last year and the scraggly little trees they replaced them with are now stately 50 year old trees- makes one realize the passage of time!
Lemonade - I like "Water for Elephants" too - the movie, not so much! But I didn't know the author- perps to the rescue!
Thanks Melissa and Gary!
Musings
-A delightful struggle and fun theme
-The DRACO I know
-ABE as Tessio was taken for a ride in The Godfather
-A Feng Shui practitioner ORIENTS items in a way that makes sense to them
-Another crooner whose surname starts with a “B” first came to my mind but it has only 5 letters
-One more round of golf today before bottom falls out again.
The puzzle was o.k for a Gary Larson until the southeast corner. This is becoming typical of L.A.Times constructors. Cross obscure or not commonly known clues to lead to a DNF.
Good Morning.
I worked my way through yesterday and today's puzzles early this morning. I wasn't rushed this morning and enjoyed both of them. Thanks, Gary and Melissa.
From yesterday: What fun to see Hahtoolah and C.C.'s puzzle! Nicely done, Susan. Thanks Boomer for the switch.
Have a fine day today.
Interesting that we all have different funds of information. What is obscure to some of us is obvious to others and vice versa. Although there are certain areas of some puzzles where many of us have mentioned the same difficulties, these are not necessarily obscure items and they often have good perps. I like to think of my glitches as learning moments rather than blaming them on the constructor.
Sometimes when I say I have never heard of a word, I find that it is quite well used. Lesson learned.
This was a bit bumpy for me today. I felt like a complete Dodo in the SE corner! Finished, but not in a Jiff. Liked Ty-D-BOL and orient.
Can anyone explain to me the best way to share a recipe here. I have a corny one for Anon T and also have an amazing alternative to Key Lime Pie. If you love KLP you will love this one too. It's lemony and super yummy! Please advise. Thanks LL'sM
LLM, if you want to share it generally, and it's not too long, you can post it here. In addition, most of the "blue" participants here have an email address attached to their Blogger profile (I notice that you don't). If you want to discuss a recipe off-line with just one person, you can do it via email.
Personally, I'd love to hear about your alternative to Key Lime Pie.
Good morning everyone.
Got the solve OK, but did not dwell on the theme. Lots of fresh fill. A fun solve. Learnt how to spell TY-D-BOL. Had 'debase' before DEBUNK.
NEENAH - Learnt it from reading the tops of sewer manhole covers when I was a nerdy kid. Assumed it might be a center for manhole cover manufacture.
KEY WEST - We have toured Hemingway's house. Lots of feral chickens make the yard and surrounding area their home.
Nice informative intro, Melissa. Thank you.
Good Morning:
The paucity of my Harry Potter knowledge led me to enter Snape instead of Draco, as Snape appears occasionally, but seeing the photo informs me that Draco is Harry's age, while Snape (Alan Rickman) is an adult. Other unknowns were Neenah, Deseret, and Eger. I never knew the correct spelling of TY D BOL, but it was easy enough to parse. I appreciated the clever, well hidden theme and was even more pleased with the unique reveal. I've never seen or heard Ethnos but, as YR noted, it's valid. I loved Water For Elephants and remembered tha author's name, but I didn't care for the movie because I thought it was miscast. Reese Witherspoon and Christopher Waltz (sp?) are both fine actors but neither fits my image of the novel's characters. My opinion is the same regarding Meryl Streep and Clint Eastwood in The Bridges of Madison County.
Thanks, Gary, for a very enjoyable solve and thanks, Melissa, for an informative and entertaining summary. (Any recent photos of Jaelyn and Harper that you'd like to share would be welcome.)
I hope Dave4 checks in; it's been a while.
Have a great day.
Basically a disaster for a Humpday puzzle.
DNF.
Funniest error was trying to write in Bublé for the Michael crooner clue and realized I'd filled 6 spaces with Bubble.
A UPS item "ctn"? Carton kind of a stretch
Charter even as a verb "lease"?
We had beautiful high arching elms over our streets in Utica like many central NY towns until the 60s. Within just a few years all destroyed. As majestic as they were probably a lesson in avoiding using exclusively one species to landscape a city.
@9:33, I wrote,"Sometimes when I say I have never heard of a word, I find that it is quite well used. Lesson learned."
Just now I have found ETHNOS used quite frequently in scholarly writing. It is apparently not an everyday word.
Who cares? Maybe just us word nerds.
"The Albanian language is attested in a written form only in the 15th century AD, when the Albanian ethnos was already formed. —Origin of the Albanians
"Converts to Judaism typically have a status within the Jewish "ethnos" equal to those born into it." —Jews
"In every nation or ethnos there is a prevailing opinion as to what the highest typical human being should be." -Daniel Garrison Brinton
And many more examples.
Charter... One of the square dance clubs charters a bus every spring for a mystery bus tour. Lots of fun. I have attended more than 20 of these. Sightseeing, dinner and dancing with friends.
Google: in re charter "the reservation of an aircraft, boat, or bus for private use."
Lease seems to be a secondary synonym for charter, not an exact one. But I can see this connection.
Hola!
Thank you, Gary Larson and Melissa! As much of this puzzle was in my wheelhouse as was not.
Our book club read Like Water for Elephants(original title)so Sara Gruen came easily and also The 19th Wife which is why I knew DESERET. Some businesses in the nearby town of Mesa are called DESERET. I noticed a bookstore by that name when driving by there a few weeks ago.
As YR so aptly put it, some of us have different founts of information which enable the solve and other information not so much. For example, I have never heard of NEENAH but luckily it was easy to work out. EGER was another unknown but surrounded by familiar terms.
My ex son-in-law was heavily into body building and the OILUP was a ritual before a show.
The NOTEBOOK was a beautiful movie as well with James Garner and Gena Rowlands.
I'm not familiar with BERMUDA onions but know about the BERMUDA triangle.
ELTORO crossing OLE was amusing and recalls the year we were in Pamplona to see the running of the bulls. Gayety and fun ensued.
In my quest to visit all 50 states I have yet to go to Florida so KEYWEST is high on my list of places I want to see.
It's so sad to hear about the destruction of those stately ELM trees. Many of our mountain forests were also decimated by the bark beetle.
Have a glorious day, everyone! We've had rain here since yesterday and what a welcome event that is!
ETHNOS should bring to mind ETHNIC and while I am sure your pie is excellent, I doubt anyone who has had real key lime pie here in Florida would be fooled. I love lemon pie, lemon meringue pie, and LEMON ICEBOX PE . Now I want PIE!
We see Dave more often than Fermatprime these days. There are so many who have disappeared over the years as we approach year 12! C.C. is back on a 2 puzzles a week schedule.
Lucy, please let us know in advance when you plan out trip to Florida. We would love to show you around; maybe even eat some authentic Key Lime Pie.
Also, I would get you a sandwich with a nice slice of BERMUDA ONION a very mild, sweet onion. Not red. They are flat on top, not round. PICTURE .
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who found this a little tough for a Wednesday puzzle. Lots of unknowns, such as DRACO (I guess I don't remember my Harry Potter all that well) and EGER, for example. But it was nice to see ARIA and ALBS, and ABE and TODD. Oh, and EL TORO. So still lots of fun, even if a bit challenging--many thanks, Gary. And Melissa, your write-ups are always wonderful.
Have a great day, everybody.
Wednesday Wowser! Thanks for the fun, Gary and melissa.
I'm glad to hear that others thought this CW was a little more difficult than the usual Wednesday. I did get the KEY theme, but was trying to make phrases out of WEST and the right-hand words (WALK, TONE, BOOK, LIGHT). D'uh, KEY is on the WEST!
Hand up for Gab to JAW, thinking of Bublé before BOLTON fit the spot, smiling at OLE crossing EL TORO. My onion was Spanish before BERMUDA. Yeah! I remembered REDDIT and AMA from the other day.
Unknowns requiring perps included NEENAH, DESERET, but I have learned STROS from AnonT.
The cross of TYDBOL and MR DEEDS was almost a Natick.
CTN and RCPTS were nose-wrinklers IMHO. I'm sure there were some who did not like ESPIED, although we see it frequently.
But this Canadian is very familiar with LTD.
Wishing you all a great day.
FLN (wow y'all were busy after what I thought was a late post.
I even recalled Misty's pear salad. Someone (-T) make it and SNAPCHAT it. How you found it is a mystery
"use oil to accentuate their muscle definitions and the 'cuts' in their bodies when flexing…". You mean they show off their GUNS?
Well, as so often happens on a Wednesday I FIWed. NEENAH was more obscure than Natick itself* and I forgot how to spell the geologist. And to pile on, I had REPTS. I thought NEENAc sounded michigandan
Jinx, if you take the scenic ride from Clearwater to Tin's town of Tarpon Springs, somewhere North of Dunedin maybe just into Palm Harbor is a little KEY LIME Pie joint. They advertise the real thing. Perhaps the Tinman has tried them
I see Owen had the right pronunciation of DESERET- eg T is sounded. I was saying dez-er-ray
How difficult are the USA late week xwords? I know Friday is the USA weekend edition. ? They do seem to like CC.
WC
*As mentioned before, Natick is Doug Flutie's home town. Who dat? A former Heisman winner whom I just noticed in a commercial. Then again, I see Tonya Harding is in an ad.
Well, I just checked my "Food" file, and it looks as though I do have a pear salad recipe. I don't remember posting it, but here it is:
Ingredients
Salad
• 5 ounces of mixed gourmet/spring greens
• 1 pear (such as d'Anjou), cored and chopped (to equal about 1 1/4 cups) (see note)
• 1 cup glazed, candied pecans (see note)
• 2/3 cup dried cherries (or cherry-flavored Craisins)
• 4 ounces crumbled goat cheese
Dressing
• 2 tablespoons balsamic vinegar
• 1 1/2 tablespoons pure maple syrup
• 1 tablespoon olive oil
• 1/2 teaspoon smooth dijon mustard
• a pinch (about 1/16 teaspoon) kosher salt
Directions
1. Place greens in a large serving bowl (or divide it among individual salad plates).
2. Sprinkle pears, pecans, cherries, and goat cheese over top of greens.
3. For dressing, whisk together balsamic vinegar, maple syrup, olive oil, mustard, and salt until emulsified.
4. Dress salad just before serving, or pass the dressing at the table.
While we're on the subject of food, I couldn't pass without commenting on :
ELDERberry. My favorite soup. Flederbein Sopp mit Klümp. (Elderberry soup with dumplings.)
If you have access to the WSJ, there is a serendipitous article about two devotees in the same town each owning a 1951 Frazer convertible. (Think Kaiser-Frazer.). It is believed there are only a few still running.
I rec'd a lovely waffle iron for Xmas two years ago. I used it 4 or 5 times. Now it just sits on our kitchen counter gathering dust. EGGOs are just too easy to "make."
There were a couple of tough calls in today's pzl, incl. NEENAH, but I guessed right, so Ta ~DA!
~ OMK
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DR: Another 3-way today, on the near side.
The central diagonal anagram recalls the last words uttered by the Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum Giant as he pursued young Jack. "Oh, no," he said "It's been hacked! It's a...
BAD BEANSTALK!"
I thought it was pretty easy. When I saw KEY and LIME I put two and two together because Key Lime Pie is one of my favorites. So I figured Key was the operative word.
Hi All!
I musta been right on Greg's wavelength - I found this puzzle quite easy (in the sense that whatever popped in my head was right! -- a once in a row :-)) for a Wednesday and enjoyed the solve.
Thanks Greg for the puzzle and mb for the fine expo.
WOs: How many different ways can I spell RIE..., RICT, RICHToR, RICHTER
ESPs: DARA, MR DEEDS, EGER, TODD
Fav: (remember, Greg, You did this...) RASH - the band who later recorded LIME LIGHT.*
Speaking of RUSH, thanks TTP for the heads-up on C.C.'s puzzle. Interestingly, // If you haven't solved yet, spoiler follows! // RUSH and HEART were inducted into the RRHoF the same year.
Runner-up: Love ABE in Barney Miller
CSO to our dear DODO.
@8:50a - what's wrong with the SE? I knew all but EGER.
Y'all remember the Ty-D-Bol Man?
{A, A+}
LOL on the DR OMK.
YR - The most common form I hear is ETHNOcentric.
IM - I've been wondering about D4 and Carol too. I hope she's OK. Lem, we've seen D4 once since Carol had health issues.
Thanks Misty! I'm sure C.C. will get that in the Recipes section soon. LL'sM - that's how you post a recipe :-)
Cheers, -T
*if you don't know the band RUSH, the three guys at the bar are them. In real-life they are very funny and (like all good Canadians, eh?) self-effacing.
With profuse apologies - Sorry Gary that I kept typing Greg (a coworker)...
WC, I have an elhi chum (we had 12 grades in the same bldg) who lives in Port Richey, so if I go see him this trip I'll be in the area. Let me know if you remember the name of the pie shop. I had lost track of him for nearly 50 years, and reconnected last month when he came through the area.
From Greek: ethnos means nation, caste, tribe
Ethno- combining form for race, people, cultural group
Ethnic
Ethnicity
Ethnocentric
Ethnology
The ethn- was obvious and easy to infer. The ending OS depended on perps.
I am surprised about the skepticism for CTN. To me it is a common abbreviation which I see often.
From Ralph’s Moving and Storage:
"Medium box or 3.0 cubic foot- (3.0 CTN) This box is more universal in nature. It can handle anything from clothes, towels, bedding, & toys all the way to small or medium electronics. The 3.0 carton (ctn) is the Swiss Army Knife of moving boxes. On average a medium box should weigh about 30 pounds."
My first school contained grades 1 through 12. We never called it elhi. My next school system had grades 1 though 8 in local schools and grades 9 through 12 in a regional high school. Gathering from a wide region there were only 68 in my graduating class.
Jinx, head south on US 19 from NPR; Take a right when you see the Tarpon Springs sign; at TP center head South (Left). That's 19a, it goes all the way to St Pete using a dozen name changes.
That pie shop is on the right about 2-3 miles South of TP Center. Apologies to Tin for that designation.
It's worth the ride, you actually have gulf views. Dunedin is a nice town a lot like that town Picard lives in. Another like it is downtown Dunellon near Ocala.
WC
I'll LIU that pieshop… J. J. GANDY'S
3725 Palm Harbor Blvd, Palm Harbor, FL 34683
(727) 938-7437
It averaged 4.8/5.0 on reviews
Hi everyone, I have tech support posting the yummy lemony pie recipe. I'm sure they will knock it out super fast!
Desper-otto hang tight!
Lemonade, I was born in Florida! I know good key lime pie! I'm simply offering up a tasty alternative!
I will let you know when I have travel plans to my home state! I would love to do a key lime pie tour of Florida! If that is not already going on, there could be some money to be made with that concept. Hhhmmmm
FLN AnonT, your mention of chicken juice nearly caused me to barf in my mouth! Eeeewwwww!
Nite nite, LL'sM
Misty, thanks! I just saw this, and plan to make it this week. I’m always looking for a new green salad variety because we have salad every night. Yours sounds delicious?? I assume the pear is unpeeled - I will use Bosc.
Misty, I copied your pear salad recipe, but you mentioned “see note”, and there was no note. Is it important?
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