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Nov 19, 2008

Wednesday November 19, 2008 Arlan and Linda Bushman

Theme: Methods of Travel

20A: Jet parked on a hill?: INCLINED PLANE

35A: Genoa-based ship?: ITALIAN SUB

42A: Ragu on rails? GRAVY TRAIN

56A: Bus on a bumpy road?: PITCHING COACH

Ragu is not GRAVY, is it? I don't understand the clue and answer for 56A. How is "on a bumpy road" connected with "PITCHING"? So strained, why not "Visitor to the Mound?"

I like how ITER (29D: Cicero's road) anchors the puzzle and intersects two theme entries. Excellent placement. I cannot tell whether the clue for SHEA (9D: George Beverly or John) is the constructors' original or not. It just strikes me as very obscure, though easily obtainable from the across fills.

For those who are interested in Merl Reagle's NY Times crossword puzzle & "The Simpsons" episode, this is Part I, this is Part II. If you don't have access to NY Times, try Philadelphia Inquirer. Merl also wrote a recap. There are some hidden diagnol messages for you to discover.

Across:

1A: Took wing: FLEW. I am not familiar with the idiom "Take wing". The first word that popped into my mind is ATE. I was thinking of the buffalo wings.

14A: Burt's ex: LONI. Here they are. Interesting, Reynolds dated both Adrienne Barbeau & Dolly Parton before. I just find it so hard to believe a 36-24-36 measurment. 34-24-34 is more real to me.

15A: Ancient mariner: NOAH. SINBAD is clued as "Mythical mariner" last time.

17A: Asian inland sea: ARAL. Often clued as "Shrinking Asian sea".

30A: Fragment: PIECE. And ITEM (57D: Article).

38A: Relevant: GERMANE. Is this word derived from "German"?

41A: Frankie's beach blanket partner: ANNETTE. From this movie I suppose. I've never heard of ANNETTE and Frankie.

46A: Family of Indy winners: UNSER. Learned from doing Xword. Not a racing fan.

61A: Vamp's accessory: FEATHER BOA

65A: Shady stand: ELMS. I could not figure why the clue is singular, then I remembered the clue for TREE ("A member of the stand") last Sunday. How can "stand" refer to "a group of trees" is beyond me.

66A: Golf hazard: TRAP. Our puzzle regular Ernie Els is brilliant at bunker shot.

67A: The Orlons 1963 hit: NOT ME. I got it from the down fills. Had no idea who The Orlons are.

Down:

1D: Natural talent: FLAIR. And ECLAT (54D: Great brilliance). I like positive & sunny words. AIDS & DIE depress me, even if they are innocently clued as "Lends a hand" & "Casino cube".

3D: Ratify: ENACT. My first thought is "endorse". ENACT is often clued as "Make into law".

4D: "Die Hard" star: WILLIS. Unless specified, the movie star clue is always asking for the surname of the actor/actress.

10D: Jazz flautist Herbie: MANN. Here is a nice clip. See Tito Puente? I did not know that "flautist" means "flutist".

11D: Holds the attention of: INTERESTS

26D: Grill brand: WEBER. Nice sign. New name to me also. I've never paid attention to our grill brand.

28D: "__ That a Shame": AIN'T. I guessed. Not familiar with this song.

31D: Serpent tail?: INE. Serpentine. "Hero tail?" too (Heroine).

34D: International accord: TRADE PACT

51D: Chucked: THREW. I kept reading the clue as "Chuckled".

59D: Iditarod destination: NOME. See this trail map. Why "Willow restart" instead of "Willow start"?

C.C.

50 comments:

Dennis said...

Good morning, c.c. and gang - this was one of those 'no-pause' puzzles for me, so not the most enjoyable. Also, I know 'ornamented' is a legitimate verb, but has anyone ever used it or heard anyone use it? And 'audible' means easily heard? Maybe it's just me...

Today is "Have a Bad Day" day - not sure why we'd have such a day, but there it is.

Well, if you're gonna have one, have an OUTSTANDING bad day. Off to the gym.

C. C. said...

Dennis,
"Have a Bad Day"? Tell that to Ryan Howard!

Ink,
Thanks for "Desperately Seeing SUSAN" yesterday. I hope some constructors read your comment and work that into their grid next time. How is your daughter now?

Kittyb,
For post #1, I like detailed crossword related comments at a reasonable length. For post #2 and afterward, I like pithy yet meaty remarks, something stimulating & inspiring.

Martin said...

this was one of those 'no-pause' puzzles for me, so not the most enjoyable.

A record finish was a nice surprise for me: I didn't expect to finish so soon because many of the clues were puns and not straight clues but the down clues were all gimmes - all except MANN, SHEA and WEBER - but one way another I was able to get all unknowns from the perps and finish a minute faster than yesterday.

I know 'ornamented' is a legitimate verb, but has anyone ever used it or heard anyone use it?

It's as valid as "sequined" or "jeweled".

'audible' means easily heard?

Well, as opposed to inaudible, I guess. Ease is in the ear of the listener.

C.C., "to pitch" has several meanings and one is "to move back and forth". A bus on a bumpy road will do that.

Martin

Martin said...

Oh, I forgot to mention that we had ITER and ITEM in the same puzzle as well as ALMS and ELMS. I hesitated when I saw the clue for INDIE but the next clue was "Indy family" so it came to me.

Martin

C. C. said...

Martin,
Thanks for the PITCHING. ITER/ITEM, ALMS & ELMS do not bother me as they are of different roots.

Clear Ayes et al,
Do you know who shot the evil Greene at "Quantum of Solace"? I understand the motor oil in his stomach, but who fired the shot at him?

Dick said...

Good morning CC, DFs and DFettes..easy puzzle today as I was able to complete with no outside help. Like Dennis said I have never heard ornamented used and I was only 99% sure it was even a real word.

At first I had slope for 8D in lieu of shape which gave me an even stranger word for 18A.

Cc I agree with you on Ragu as not being gravy. When I think of ragu I think of a meat sauce for pasta. I guess in a stretch it could be gravy but not in my conversation use.

Cc the term pitching is a common usage for bumping along on a bumpy road and I have heard and used the term all my life. Here are some other definitions I got on line for pitch.

# To plunge headlong: He pitched over the railing.
#

1. To stumble around; lurch.
2. To buck, as a horse.
3. Nautical To dip bow and stern alternately.
4. To oscillate about a lateral axis so that the nose lifts or descends in relation to the tail. Used of an aircraft.
5. To oscillate about a lateral axis that is both perpendicular to the longitudinal axis and horizontal to the earth. Used of a missile or spacecraft.

#

1. Nautical To dip bow and stern alternately.
2. To oscillate about a lateral axis so that the nose lifts or descends in relation to the tail. Used of an aircraft.
3. To oscillate about a lateral axis that is both perpendicular to the longitudinal axis and horizontal to the earth. Used of a missile or spacecraft.

Since this is "Bad Day Day" I think I will go back to bed. Hope you all have a good day day today.

Chris in LA said...

Good morning CC etal,

Easy day today - only stumbled on Mann & Shea, otherwise all went smoothly.

Simpsons episode was great - thanks Embien & CC.

CC: Red sauce (marinara sauce - no meat, mushrooms, etc.) is routinely referred to as "gravy" in the Italian community.

Hope all have a great day!

Martin said...

Oh here's a couple more clues and fills they could have used, although the first one is probably not appropriate for the Tribune:

"Orgy ship?"....... LOVE BOAT
"Lollipop, for one" GOOD SHIP

Martin

Barry said...

Morning, all!

I'm with Dennis on this one. Easy puzzle and not all that interesting. Well, it would have been easy except that I confidently put FLARE instead of FLAIR for 1D which created some consternation for me when I saw that 20A started RNCL. It took me awhile to figure out my mistake, since the first three letters of FLARE were obviously correct.

Other initial missteps were LAID for LAIN and SCRAP for PIECE, but they resolved themselves very quickly.

The only two unknowns for me today were SHEA and MANN which, despite being side-by-side, didn't actually cause me any grief since the perps were easy enough to get.

Once again, I didn't get the (now obvious) theme. All I could think of was "bad puns" -- I didn't catch that they were all transportation related. I don't know what I'd do without C. C. to clue me in on the themes!

Oh -- I agree 100% about Ragu being described as GRAVY. It's a sauce, plain and simple. Of course, I'm not part of the "Italian Community" that Chris mentions, so what do I know? I just read the label on the jar...

And... that's pretty much it. Have a great day, everyone!

Chris in LA said...

@ Barry & CC:

From Wiki:

Tomato gravy, which is distinct from the term as used by northeastern Italian Americans when referring to tomato sauce, is a gravy common in most rural areas where tomatoes were a staple food. Tomato gravy is prepared in a method similar to white gravy. The cooked tomatoes, some fat (usually cured pork fat) and flour are cooked together until thick, and seasoned with salt and pepper. Typically, tomato gravy is served over eggs, toast and biscuits.

It's really good & fills you up cheaply, too! Tomato gravy on biscuits is a terrific breakfast if your stomach can handle it first thing in the morning - mmmm, doesn't get much better than that!

Dennis said...

martin, I wasn't questioning the validity of 'ornamented' - unlike 'jeweled' or 'sequined', I don't think it's a word that's ever used. Also, I liked your cluing of 'lollipop, for one'.

c.c., thanks for the clarification on post length; I thought that's what you were shooting for some time ago when you told us what you were looking for in the blog. And you're right, Ryan Howard was deserving of MVP.

drdad said...

Good morning.

In Rhode Island (and I think in other parts of New England) Italians call their pasta sauce gravy. Coming from Nebraska, I was surprised to find that out. So, yes, in this state and part of the country at least, ragu is gravy. In fact, it is rare that I hear it called anything but gravy. Thus, I had no problem getting the answer or understanding it.

This was an easy puzzle.

In addition to Bad Day Day, it is also Pencil Day and Pop Tarts Day.

Have a great Bad Day.

Argyle said...

Ragu on Pop-Tarts for breakfast - that's the way to start "Have a Bad Day".

kazie said...

Very easy puzzle for me too, no real problems, despite some guessing needed.

Pitch also has the sense of up and down movement on a rough sea--some roads give the same impression.

Not sure about regional uses for the term gravy, but I do know that the words "sauce" in French and "Sosse" in German both translate as either sauce or gravy here depending on the food they go with, or even dressing for salad. So perhaps the ethnic Italians had the same dilemma in deciding what to call their pasta sauce.

c.c.,
"Willow restart" is probably after an overnight stop, where they would restart in the order in which they arrived the previous night. The original trek was from Seward, much farther south than Anchorage, when it was used to deliver mail. There is still a marker at the point where they took off on the original trail to deliver medicine during an epidemic in (I think it was )Iditarod. Here's some history from a resident of (where else?) Wasilla!

DoesItinInk said...

This was an incredibly easy puzzle. And though I FLEW through it, it was a pleasing puzzle, unlike those of the last two days.

George Beverly Shea was a popular gospel singer my southern Baptist grandmother listened to. I have not thought about him for many years.

Before Annette Funicello made her “beach” movies with Frankie Avalon, she was a Mousketeer! I was a faithful viewer of the Mickey Mouse Club. I loved when Annette sang this song.

The juxtaposition of 45A “non-studio film” INDIE and 46A “family of Indy winners” was cute. Even a total sports illiterate like me has heard of the UNSERs.

I also liked NOAH for “ancient mariner”.

@cc: “Shady stand”…the word stand in the sense of “stand of trees” is a collective noun like “pride” (of lions) or “gaggle” (of geese).

JD said...

Good morning C.C. and all
After reading, it was too late to post and most had been said. I made the mistake of using journey instead of joyride, and I knew it was wrong when I filled in terms.When I got flint and fiery, it all worked.I can't G in the classroom, so it really makes me think.
Amon is spelled Amen and Amun because the Egyptians did not use vowels in the early years of hieroglphics. Many of their names ,like Tutenkhamun, have the same variations .Baal(not Egyptian) was sometimes known as Bel, and in Phoenicia, as Melkart.

I never saw The Third Man, but I saw the poster and my cousin ,Joseph Cotten, was in it. I was only allowed to see a few of his movies when I was a kid. He did not like children, so I did not see him often.

Doesitinink, hopefully all will go well with your daughter, and she knows the symptoms to get back to the doctor,if needed.Will she be home for Thanksgiving?

Gotta run ...am teaching all week and next.Will tune in later

Dr.G said...

A real easy puzzle because it was or am I just getting smarter? Hah!

To-may-toe, to-mah-toe; po-tay-toe, po-tah-toe; flutist flautist -- here's an explanation:http://zucchinigirl.tripod.com/flute/flutist.html

Dick said...

@kazie thank you for the history link on the Iditarod trail/race. It was a long read but I found it to be well worth the time.

Anonymous said...

35A,

As a theme answer it should have been clued Genoa-based BOAT.

Submarines are Boats, not ships.

Any Navy types care to comment?

Ken said...

Good morning, C.C. et al. No problems with the puzzle here either. It was one where I could work from top to bottom without stopping. I try to do that with every puzzle. When they are as easy as this one, they become a bit more of a challenge.

I did think of scrap and shard at 30A, but the fills just flowed.

WOTD BLITHESOME BLYTHE sum adjective

Meaning: gay or merry

In "The Gilded Age: A Tale of To-Day", Mark Twain's Laura, freshly in love, wondered why she'd never noticed how blythesome the world was.


On this day, 11/19/1863, President Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Address, offering perhaps the most famous speech in American history.

How many of you memorized as children. There is a great rendition of it in "Kindergarten Cop," a great movie with Penelope Ashe and Ahhhnold.

Have a great day, all.

g8rmomx2 said...

Hi c.c. and all,

I sped through this one, well not in "Dennis" time I'm sure but still under 20 minutes.

Kittyb: read your comments to me this morning and I agree that we often see the puzzle the same way. I hope your niece keeps her feet warm, maybe two pair of socks would help! I was in the marching band, but in Miami, FL so didn't have that problem.

It was 38 degrees this morning, but wind chill factor felt like 32 degrees. Pretty cold for us in Southwest Florida. I believe it is supposed to hit 64 degrees today, but right now it is 59!

Have a wonderful day everyone!

carol said...

Good morning C.C. and all,
This was a fairly easy one for me.
I always thought of Ragu as a sauce too.
After reading all the comments, I understand the word "gravy" has regional definitions. I have never heard of tomato gravy...does not sound good to me.

I did have trouble with 32D, still don't really understand what an "aggie" is, sounds like a favorite marble. I assume it is from the word Agricultural..but it's a stretch to me.

Argyle at 8:50am, LOL

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, This was a quick easy crossword, without any hangups or bad fills.

I thought the same thing about "Genoa-based ship" as Anon@10:04. I figured I must be wrong, because my only frame of reference was the movie "Das Boot" (The Boat).

Even I recognized all the proper names, lots of them People-worthy, this morning.

50A "__be a real shame if" seemed like one of those forced clues to fit the answer ITD.

It struck me as amusing that EEK RAW SNAIL followed one another. It is even yuckier when followed by PIECE.

I do like escargot myself, but I know many people don't even like the thought of eating snails.

I hope Doesitinink has her Bad Day of the week well behind her and won't have to worry about today.

C.C. I haven't seen Quantum of Solace yet, but maybe this Thursday, we'll extend our shopping trip and make a matinee stop.

DoesItinInk said...

@carol: AGGIE is what students who attend Texas A&M are called. Purdue University students are called Boilermakers, Yale students are Elis, etc.

Clear Ayes said...

Here's a thought to keep in mind on "Have a Bad Day" day, and all days in general. This was written in the 1980's, but has a little extra significance now.

Sometimes

Sometimes things don't go, after all,
from bad to worse. Some years, muscatel
faces down frost; green thrives; the crops don't fail.
Sometimes a man aims high, and all goes well.

A people sometimes will step back from war,
elect an honest man, decide they care
enough, that they can't leave some stranger poor.
Some men become what they were born for.

Sometimes our best intentions do not go
amiss; sometimes we do as we meant to.
The sun will sometimes melt a field of sorrow
that seemed hard frozen; may it happen for you.

- Sheenagh Pugh

Crockett1947 said...

Good morning, everyone.

Wow, a puzzle that just flew. I even knew EMO!

C.C., I think the theme answers are supposed to be "cute," thus the bumpy road coach. When you bounce back and forth, that is termed "pitching." It's usually applied to a boat being tossed on stormy sea, I believe. Interesting "Simpsons" crossword tie-in. I guess I've now officially seen an episode!

@argyle LOL!

@anonymous @ 10:04 Good catch. Surprised that no one else piped up before.

@clearayes Your sharing of poems inspires me to share this, which has been on my kitchen bulletin board for oh so many years:

Attitude

by Charles Swindell

The longer I live, the more I realized the impact of attitude on life. Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than success, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company ...a church ... a home. The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past ...we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one thing we have, and that is our attitude ...I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it."

Have an outrageous day, all!!

jeannie said...

I am feeling rather dense today as this puzzle wasn't easy for me in the least. I got off at a snails pace, finally threw an audible to the pitching coach, which brought out teh emcee in a feather boa nonetheless! So off to the google shop I did go:
5D shortly? Anon
32D Texas A&M? Aggie
61D Low lying wetland (watch it dennis) Fen
53D Native New Zealander? Maori
54D Great brilliance? Eclat

Do you see a pattern here...all downs giving me trouble.

I think I'll sit back now and have some Lorna Doones.

Dennis said...

jeannie, that's funny, I had the same reaction to 61D, but it wouldn't fit (the answer, that is).

jeannie said...

Dennis, I can read your mind sometimes my df friend. Sometimes you just have to fen for yourself.

Dennis said...

I always fen for myself, which is why I'm always swamped...

jeannie said...

Dennis, I know how it is to get swamped. Want me to help bail you out?

carol said...

Ink, thanks for the explanation on Aggie and on Boilermakers..I did know Eli's. :)
Hope your daughter is feeling better.

Clear ayes, what a lovely poem..perfect for today.

Dennis and Jeannie: LOL great stuff!

Dennis said...

Want me to help bail you out?
There's only one answer: morass

jeannie said...

Dennis, are you sure that won't just bog you down?

Dennis said...

No, but it'd probably leave me like a marshmallow.

Jeezus, that's terrible.

Barb B said...

I must say I’m doing the puzzles quicker than I expect. It must be an easy week.

I liked the answers gravy train, Italian sub, feather boa and pitching coach. Inclined plane is kinda cute, but it isn’t as much fun. And why do puzzles, if not for fun. I have no time to spend WEEPing; NOT ME. I have a FLAIR for joyful INTERESTS.

Speaking of which, my graduation ceremonies take place in Tigard and Newberg Oregon, December 19th and 20th. Friday night is the hooding ceremony, and Saturday is commencement. Earning a degree 40 years after high school makes me feel giddy, and I met many other students my age and near that. The overall average age of students at GFES is 42. My degree is Masters of Arts. Spiritual Formation, from George Fox Evangelical Seminary. You are all invited. ☺

Dennis; I agree. Why would we agree to have a bad day? I intend to have an OUTSTANDING GOOD day.

Barry – where is your picture?

embien said...

5:45 today. You know it's easy when I go sub six-minutes--that's just about as fast as I can scroll through the clues and type them in.

I will just add to the "gravy" debate that at traditional Italian Sunday dinners (where the whole family gathers together after mass and mama cooks all day), the sauce on the spaghetti is called "gravy" here in the US.

I imagine the original Italian term is identical for "sauce" and "gravy". If you look at cookbooks by Giada DeLaurentis (she is 100% Italian), Rachel Ray (she is 50% Italian), etc. you will find recipes for "Spaghetti with Sunday Gravy" in them.

That said, 42a: could have been clued Rails in a boat? or something (thinking gravy boat here).

Annette was my favorite Mouseketeer. I think she was admired by a lot of young boys, perhaps because she was more "developed" than the other female mousketeers of the day. (DFness starts at a young age).

jeannie said...

Geez Dennis, that would leave me in quite a quagmire. Don't slough off now.

Mark said...

Anonymous said....

Good call on the clue Genoa-based ship. It should have been Genoa-based boat.

A ship is a vessell that can carry boats.

The submarine is considered a boat because they do not carry any boats.

kazie said...

I had this ready hours ago, but had to race off and forgot to post it. I see the conversation has come back to at least one of these topics again so now they're still appropriate:

clear ayes,
I have watched Das Boot many times and never even noticed that the port they end up at was Genoa. I remember some Italian youths giving us a motor-scooter escort to the youth hostel there when we couldn't find it on the map.

And escargots--I had them once while at my friend's home for Christmas in France, but all I could taste was the garlic butter, which I think goes down much better with lots of other things. So after that I've never bothered with them.

Argyle said...

So that's what happened.
One day, a chef said, "My garlic butter is so good, I bet I can get people to eat snail...but I'll have to call it esgargot."

Dick said...

Barb, congrats on getting your degree. Did you do it in night school or were you able to go during the day?

Barb B said...

Dick,
I drove to the Portland area, which is 120 miles from here, every Monday for 3 years, plus intensive on-line classes that required 2 week-ends per class; including summers. It was really jumping into the deep end of the pool, so to speak, but more than worth it. If anyone is thinking about a similar leap of faith, I say go for it. You won't be sorry.

NYTAnonimo said...

Thanks for the links to the Simpsons cc. Read about it the other day but didn't have time to follow up. Finished this puzzle fairly quickly too, but that's OK as I took too long trying to finish the NYT puzzle.

JD said...

Hi all
Just read a few of the comments about having a bad day and it reminded me of one of my favorite poems. So if you did not have a Pop Tart today, this is dedicated to you

KEEP A-GOIN’

Author: by Frank L. Stanton (1857-1927)
If you strike a thorn or rose,
Keep a-goin'!
If it hails or if it snows,
Keep a-goin'!
'Taint no use to sit an' whine
When the fish ain't on your line;
Bait your hook an' keep a-tryin'--
Keep a-goin'!

When the weather kills your crop,
Keep a-goin'!
Though 'tis work to reach the top,
Keep a-goin'!
S'pose you're out o' ev'ry dime,
Gittin' broke ain't any crime;
Tell the world you're feelin' prime--
Keep a-goin'!

When it looks like all is up,
Keep a-goin'!
Drain the sweetness from the cup,
Keep a-goin'!
See the wild birds on the wing,
Hear the bells that sweetly ring,
When you feel like singin', sing--
Keep a-goin'!

CC, thanks for the Simpsons episode.
Dick and Dennis @ 7:19, I agree with your remarks on ornamented. I enjoyed the c/w today although I read chucked as chuckeled.Some one said it was not fun... Go get a feather boa!

University of CA at Davis also uses the term "aggies" It is one of the best if you want to be a veternarian, but it is also big in agriculture.

Doesitinink, did you love "Spin & Marty"? What about you Clear Ayes?

Thanks all for the info about gravy, much of it unfamiliar. Never have heard of tomato gravy.

Our Indian Summer has left us. It was a chilly 67 here.

JD said...

Crockett,thanks for the positive "Attitude" :-)

Clear Ayes said...

It doesn't look like "Have a Bad Day" got anybody down.

BarbB, Congratulations! It's a difficult thing to go back to school after so many years. You are really to be admired.

I remember Spin and Marty. I was more into mature (Ha) 16 year old boys when they were on the Mickey Mouse Club. (I did think Tim Considine was pretty cute though.)

Embien, G.A.H. has told me that although he was a little old for the show, Annette was also his favorite Mouseketeer for exactly the same reason that you were oogling her.

Crockett, RE: Charles Swindell, that is an inspiring credo by which to live our lives. I can understand why you have kept it all these years.

JD, another terrific "hang in there" poem. I like the line "When you feel like singin', sing". That's what I do. I'm not particularly good, but I keep on singing.

Argyle, LOL about escargot. You probably aren't too far off. I do wonder how hungry people must have been to try some things for the first time. Why would anybody fight with artichoke spines in the hope of getting a couple of tasty bites? Raw oysters? That's another one.

Sallie, Charley the schipperke says "Hi"..or maybe just "Arf!"

DoesItinInk said...

@kazie and DFers: The front of the "Live!" section of the Chicago Tribune featured a huge photo and story about Josef Brown titled 'Dirty' sexy Aussie. I could not locate the photo on-line, but here is the review and a video that shows him dancing as well. Enjoy!

kazie said...

Thanks ink,
for the video--I've loved the film since I saw it years ago, and the comments about this live show seem true--it does seem like a 3-D version of it. I love dancing anyway, so this had to be good!

Barb B
I add my congrats and admiration for your tenacity--I think I'd have been too tired to do that. It must be something you are really passionate about. Way to go!

Argyle,
I think you have it right too--garlic butter must be the hook that got people eating snails. I heard once that they prepare them by feeding them flour until the poop comes out white, and then they are "clean" enough to eat. Ugh!

Clear Ayes said...

Doesit and Kazie, Josef Brown...another MMMMM Aussie!

I've been humming this song all day long, thanks to "Have A Bad Day" day. Now I'll get it off my brain and pass it on to you. Enjoy Daniel Powter and You Had A Bad Day.

'Night All