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Nov 26, 2008

Wednesday November 26, 2008 Barry Silk

Theme: MIDDLE EARTH (58A: Tolkie place... or this puzzle's theme)

18A: Dispel differences: CLEAR THE AIR

28A: Like some good food?: HEART-HEALTHY

44A: Woomera, e.g.: SPEAR THROWER

I did not know the meaning of "Woomera", and I heedlessly filled in SEPTET instead of HEPTAD for 46D: "Seven Dwarfs, e.g." and ZEST instead of ZEAL for 53D: "Enthusiasm". So I made a mess at the lower middle section.

I really don't know much about crossword construction, but I do know it's not easy coming up with two J's (JUJUBE) and two Z's (ZZ TOP) in one fill. Barry Silk is unbelievable. I am always impressed by his repeated efforts in coming up with scrabbly grids, so effortlessly.

I hope you enjoyed his pangram today. This is probably my favorite Barry Silk puzzle. I love the theme. I think I am getting better understanding his mind. I filled in AQI (14A: EPA pollution measure) like it's a OREO cookie. Can you believe a year ago I did not even know what ORT is? My first ever crossword fill is SOSA. What about you?

Across:

4A: One way to fall: APART. Fall APART. Good clue.

15A: Film version: MOVIE. What's the difference between Film and MOVIE?

16A: Articles of faith: CREDO. Without ADIOS (12D: Spanish ta-ta), I would probably have penned in CREED. Or should it be the plural CREEDS?

23A: Brief expert: PROS. I was picturing James Bond in "Brief" (Daniel Craig in "Casino Royale"). I wish the clue were "Experts, briefly".

24A: Infomercial knife: GINSU. OK, here is the original GINSU ad.

32A: Like Rembrandt: DUTCH

37A: Corner aloft: TREE. I think the best TREE clue I've seen is "Leaves home?".

41A: Columnist Marilyn __ Savant: VOS. Her name came to me via the adjacent fills. I am not familiar with this columnist. She has a IQ of 228, "the highest ever recorded", according to Wikipedia.

42A: Composer Thomas: ARNE. The composer for "Rule, Britannia".

47A: Chewy candy: JUJUBE. Chinese date is called JUJUBE also. But I've never heard of KIWI (56D) being called "Chinese gooseberry". Is gooseberry edible? I used to binge on mulberry.

51A: Words before end or angle: AT AN. I don't like this clue. You either clue it as "AT AN angle" or "AT AN end". Dennis probably wants to "Get A TAN".

52A: "Legs" band: ZZ TOP. Here is the song. Those beards are too long for my taste. Interesting, Wikipedia says Frank Beard, "Ironically, in spite of his own surname", almost always "sports just a mustache".

55A: "Lonely Boy" singer Paul: ANKA. Look at those girls, they are all chewing bubblegum. Baseballcards came with the bubblegum in 1959, right? This Mickey Mantle Topps 1959 was sold for $2.850 at an auction.

61A: Fort __, NJ: DIX. Learned it from doing Xword.

62A: Sheep peep: BLEAT. BLEAT always reminds of "The Silence of the Lambs". I wish I had never seen it. What a nightmare!

63A: How some stocks sell: AT PAR

66A: Yorkshire city: LEEDS. Mark Knopler, who scored "The Princess Bride", graduated from the University of Leeds.

67A: Milwaukee's st.: WIS. I misread "st" as "street" first.

Down:

1D: Bit of reality: FACT

2D: Pastel hue: AQUA. It's a shade of cyan, so is teal.

3D: Mr. Microsoft?: BILL GATES. It's symmetrical partner is BAY WINDOW (34D: Oriel). Nice to see "Oriel" as the clue rather than the answer. I like seeing GATES, WINDOW and JAMBS (47D: Doorframe parts) in one puzzle.

4D: All-films stn.: AMC. So is TMC.

5D: Buff: POLISH. I misread the clue as "Bluff", so I was picturing the bluffs above Omaha Beach and Reagan's D-Day speech. That's a strange memory statue, isn't it?

6D: Line of inquiry: AVENUE. I was stumped, how so? What is "Line of inquiry"?

7D: Iranian cash: RIAL. It's the money unit of Yemen, Oman and Iran.

8D: Trillion: pref.: TERA. I would not have got this one without the across fills. See this list. Barry can clue PETA as "Quadrillion" prefix rather than "Animal rights grp." next time. I cannot count above a million.

11D: Tripper Timothy: LEARY. The LSD guy.

13D: Body of art: TORSO. Venus de Milo is probably the most famous "Body of art".

19D: Conway of country music: TWITTY. Here is his Hello Darlin'. Sounds so sad. I obtained his name from across fills.

21D: "Odyssey" sorceress: CIRCE. Siren does not fit and sirens don't really appear in "Odyssey", right?

38D: Zephyr: BREEZE

39D: __ roll (streaking): ON A. Strange that Williams allows partial fill from time to time.

44D: Ice cream treat: SUNDAE. I wish there were no whipped cream in SUNDAE. I also don't like icing on the cake.

45D: 1912 Olympian: THORPE. My first thought was Jesse Owens, who was a 1936 Olympian. Here is a picture of Jim THORPE at the 1912 Stockholm Olympics. I vaguely remember one of his game worn jerseys was sold over half a million at an auction several years ago.

49D: Word-weary: JADED

57D: Lumber camp stack: AXES

59D: USPS piece: LTR. Lots of three-letter words in today's grid.

60D: "48 __": HRS. New film to me. Is it good?

C.C.

47 comments:

Dennis said...

Good morning, c.c. and gang - a typically enjoyable Silk puzzle this morning, although this one went a little faster than his previous ones.

I had no idea what 'woomera' was, but it fell through the perps. Forgot about Jujubes, a movie staple back in the day. Tried to force 'I say no' for 'part of a parental veto'. And it was nice to see 'bay window' and 'oriel' reversed as clue/answer.

Today is "Shopping Reminder Day", as if we needed it, given the print and TV/radio blitz we're seeing already. The sales this year will be deeper than we've seen in many a year, and stores will be opening earlier than ever on Friday.

Have a wonderfully enjoyable Thanksgiving for those of you who won't be here tomorrow; in spite of everything this year, we've got a hell of a lot for which to be thankful.

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

Dennis,
I am thankful you are here for me every morning. I still don't understand the AVENUE clue. No comment on AT AN and BUFF? What a moral guy you have become!

Kazie,
Thanks for the personal pronoun and possessive pronoun yesterday. I did not know those terms. Which sentence is grammatically correct here: "Are you a she or a he?" Or "Are you a her or a him?" Also, what does the suffix "Stadt" mean in German?

Clear Ayes,
I enjoyed your trivia on Liquid Paper yesterday.

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

Jimbo & Calef,
I only wish you two comment here often. What are you going to have for Thanksgiving?

Richshif,
Thanks for the "I am a Believer" link yesterday. I liked those tidbit of information on Mike Nesmith.

Martin said...

15 minutes 37 seconds. I didn't know AQI, VOS, ARNE, BREEZE or WIS (because I thought "Milwaukee's St." meant "Milwaukee's Street"). They -and the theme fills- came from the perps.

C.C., in American English, a film is on celluloid but a movie could also be on video or on DVD, so it is not strictly accurate to refer to a DVD as a "film". In British English, they use the word "film" to mean "movie" so a DVD would be refered to as a "film".

I laughed when I saw ZZTOP and Paul ANKA next to each other. What will be in next week's Barry Silk puzzle? ACDC and Barry MANILOW? How about METALICA and Tom JONES?

C.C., if you long for the days when Dennis was more DF, remember you still have me. Do I have to tell you what sort of images came to mind when I read "Spanish ta-tas?"

Martin

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

Martin,
Now you should eat worms for failing AQI again. Thanks for Film/MOVIE. I don't understand your ZZ TOP and Paul ANKA comment. Why is funny? And yes, I do miss the day when Dennis was happier. Go ahead, tell me what image popped into your mind when you read "Spanish ta-ta"? You'd better make it poetic.

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

Chris, Warren and all of you who sent me emails yesterday,

I've fixed my Hotmail problem. Thank you so much. You guys are great!

Martin said...

Oh, by the way, it seems Ian spoke his first real words today: we were watching this Filipino game show (based on the American game show of the same name) on TV and the contestant had to choose between the contents of a briefcase and the banker's offer of fifty thousand pesos and I distinctly heard my son say "No deal! No deal!"

Continuing from my last post: PINK FLOYD and Andy WILLIAMS? How about AEROSMITH and Matt MONROE? BON JOVI and Johnny MATHIS? Maybe VAN HALEN and Michael BOLTON?

Martin

Dick said...

Good morning CC, DFs and DFettes..nice puzzle today. I had a few hard spots because I assumed answers that were wrong like elan in lieu of zest for 53D. However, I was able to correct the mistakes with the perps and completed the c/w without help.

CC your question "what does the suffix "Stadt" mean in German?" Stadt means city

Jujube was difficult as I could not remember the name but I remembered the candy. Also, for some reason I knew Marilyn VOS Savant and I think they uswed to carry her column in the local newspaper.

I hope you all have a very joyous Thanksgiving. We have so much to be thankful for.

Martin said...

C.C., fine, I'll tell you: when I saw "Spanish ta-ta" I was trying to come up with a Spanish word that meant "breast".

Martin

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

Easy, breezy and smooth as silk. Or Silk, as the case may be. "Woomera" was a bit out of left field, but as the answer started to reveal itself via the perps I realized I had actually seen the word before. So, officially, no unknowns for me today.

As with C. C., I was thrilled to realize I have actually committed AQI to memory. I could be wrong, but does anybody other than Barry Silk ever use it in a puzzle (or anywhere else, for that matter)?

As for AVENUE, if you've been trying unsuccessfully to solve a problem using one tactic, it's time to try another avenue (i.e. try a different tactic). AVENUE is, of course, synonymous with street or road, and it just means try a different metaphorical "path" or "way".

Barry G. said...

C.C., fine, I'll tell you: when I saw "Spanish ta-ta" I was trying to come up with a Spanish word that meant "breast".

That would be "chiches".

I'm just saying.... ^_^

NYTAnonimo said...

You usually ask us for other theme answer possibilities cc so I searched some data bases to see what other "middle of the earth" terms Barry could have used and found these:

heathrug
hearthstone
sorrytohearthat
neartheend
beartheburden
bearthecost

Liked this puzzle just the way it was though. Got hung up at the bottom trying to put in ZEST for ZEAL but finally figured it out.

Argyle said...

Good Morning, C.C. and former DF's and you, too, Martin.

I give you some of my notes I made for today. The first one is from the online puzzle.

32A) Like Jan Steen - Dutch / Jan Steen [Dutch Baroque Era Painter, ca.1625-1679]

41A) Columnist Marilyn __ Savant - Vos / Marilyn vos Savant (born Marilyn Mach, August 11, 1946) is an American magazine columnist, author, lecturer and playwright who rose to fame through her listing in the Guinness Book of World Records under "Highest IQ". Since 1986 she has written Ask Marilyn, a Sunday column in Parade magazine in which she solves puzzles and answers questions from readers on a variety of subjects. Her husband is Robert Jarvik, the inventor of the Jarvik artificial heart.

42) Composer Thomas - Arne / Thomas Augustine Arne (12 March 1710 – 5 March 1778) was an English composer, violinist, and keyboard player. A prolific composer of music for the stage, and is considered the catalyst for the revival of English opera. "Rule, Britannia!" is part of his opera "Alfred".

44A) Woomera, e.g. - spearthrower / The Woomera was a lever that projected spears with greater force than arm movements alone. It increased the range and speed of the spear but made aiming more difficult. It therefore required much practice before the user became adept, but in fact was very skilfully used. There were several variations in shape, some being long and narrow, or like a small paddle, or dish like and used as such. Woomeras were basically lengths of wood with either peg or socket on one end to engage the spear. Woomera

kazie said...

c.c.,
The first is correct--her and him would be object forms, and it needs the subject after any part of the verb "to be". A very commonly made error by American speakers, so I understand your confusion.
That said, we all do it in some circumstances, viz. the answer to "who's there?"--"it's me", which is grammatically incorrect, but we feel more comfortable saying that than "It is I". Perhaps that's a throwback to the French influence--they would say "C'est moi", which is correct French.

"Stadt" means town or city.

Woomera was gimme for me--the Aussie Aborigines still use them to amuse the tourists, so I'm not sure why the use described by Argyle was in the past tense.

And c.c., that memorial you commented on behind Reagan is at Point du Hoc, near the D-Day beaches in Normandy. I remember commenting the first time I saw it that it reminded me of a phallus, especially with the rocks at the base. My students touring with me thought it was hilarious.

My only hang-up in this puzzle was 46D, for which I ended up with heptad, which means nothing to me.

Argyle said...

kasie, I lifted that from a web site selling them as artifacts (though they may have been made yesterday, for I know.) Most references were about the town of Woomera and the missle base there. Did they name the missle base for the tool and then the town grew up around the base?

Anonymous said...

Mark - Buenos Aires

Martin - Spanish slang for female breasts - "Lolas"

c.c. Yes - it was called Chinese gooseberry but more commonly now kiwi fruit. I think its a man-made hybrid like nectarine

Gooseberries are a bit sour but very common in pies, crumbles and fools

Kazee - Think of the olympics and the ladies heptathlon (7 events)

Cryptic clue:

"Tell story about honey potion - its a soft drink" (7 letters)

very hot and humid here, Hopefully the weather will break for a good thunderstorm soon.

chau

Jeannie said...

Let me clear the air and say this puzzle today was a breeze for a Silk puzzle. Believe it or not the one I couldn't get was 9A wet impact(watch it Dennis). I was even pleased to see I finally made the puzzle on 23A as I consider myself a pro when it comes to brief experts.

carol said...

Good morning C.C. and everyone. I really liked this one and it was the first time I have every done a Barry Silk puzzle without having to go to Mr. G.

Woomera was new to me, but I managed to get the answer from perps.

Love ZZ Top! Weird looking, but very talented. Saw them in person years ago, and it's a good thing I purchased the ear plugs they were selling just inside the door! Joe didn't and his ears were ringing for 3 days.

Show a 'lonely boy' legs and you'll both be in the 'buff' before long. Just watch out for the 'bay window'.

kazie said...

Argyle,
You were very persistent to even find that one. I had the same problem when I looked. Yes, Woomera the town grew up because of the rocket/missile base. I also found this spearthrower which shows a slightly less ornamental one and a statue showing a couple of them.

Mark,
Thanks for the explanation--I was not on that wavelength.

Also, the story I heard about the kiwi fruit was that it was originally known in China, but then it was found to grow very well in New Zealand, whence it was popularized in the west, and got the name from there--flightless indiginous bird and nickname for all New Zealanders.

Anonymous said...

Even though you were born in China, I am surprised you got the Chinese gooseberry clue. I was born in NZ (now living in Canada) so it came naturally. Our crossword maker frequently makes errors as you point out. I recall a few weeks ago when he put "Alder" as a rot resistant wood. He was wrong. My partner is a 70-year-old west coast logger and says that alder does rot. Although cedar rots while in the ground, once made into lumber it does not rot and therefore is very successful as an outdoor lumber.

I appreciate your blog to finish my crossword.

Venetta

Jeannie said...

Carol, don't forget to add some talc to the torso as it will add some zeal. That's my credo.

kazie said...

Welcome Venetta--another antipodean!
Is my take on the kiwi story accurate? Or do you have a different version?

Dr.G said...

Does the cesta of jai alai qualify as a type of woomera? If not, the principle is the same
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Chist%C3%A9ra.jpg

Anonymous said...

C.C,
I'm invited to a friend's home for Thanksgiving.
An Avenue is basicly a road that you travel to get someplace. If you make a LINE of inquiry you go down a path of questioning, like a road to the answer.
Calef.

Crockett1947 said...

Good morning, everyone.

I LOVE Bary Silk puzzles. What a fun one this was!! Had to correct my spelling of GINSU (wanted a Z for the S) and change UMBER to AMBER, and after that it was smooth sailing.

Marilyn Vos Savant's column is in the Sunday PARADE magazine in the newspapers. We had a very climable mulberry tree on the street where I grew up, and we enjoyed plucking and eating them while we were aloft. The original GINSU ad link was fun -- $9.95?!!

@argyle Your research was fascinating. Loved the woomera information.

@Barry Silk Thank you for an entertaining puzzle.

Happy Thanksgiving to all and to all a Good Day!

kazie said...

dr. G,
I agree the principle is similar, except the woomera is straight and this tool is curved, so that managing the trajectory would involve different skills. I suppose it helps like the follow through does with a tennis or golf swing, but by forming an extension to one's arm length.

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, I finished the puzzle online last night at 11:15 California time. I was so pleased that it was a pangram, but at that time none of you farther east folk were around to share it with.

As usual, Barry Silk came up with an enjoyable theme. Some new words were TERA, ARNE, WOOMERA and HEPTAD. I smiled at JUJUBES, since we had discussed youthful movie treats a while back.

Speaking of youthful, I met Conway TWITTY in 1958. He was just starting out with his first hit It's Only Make Believe. A group of girlfriends and I went to the very small local venue where he was appearing and got his autograph and posed for photos. Unfortunately, both autograph and photos have been lost over the years.

I'm with Carol on ZZ TOP. My favorite is Sharp Dressed Man. I love the rhythm and the lyrics are right on. "Every girl IS crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man!"

lois said...

Good afternoon CC & DF's: Not a 'bad' puzzle but not a 'race' for Dennis 'thyme' either. Had to laugh at 12D...you guys got it already,..Spanish ta-ta..and so close to 'twitty'. Then Holy Hot Wicks in Ft. Dix! We all knew that morel men are in New Jersey. It's a 'fact'! Ft.Dix, N.J. Enough to 'rial' a woman to an 'acme'. Wonder if they need a 'brief' expert there. That would keep my 'heart healthy' I think, esp if they are 'buff'. I'll 'tri'anyway. 27A clue (pipe down!) is my ultimate goal, but just like my turkey, I'm smokin' it first.

Barry Silk rules!

Have a Happy Thanksgiving all.

Clear Ayes said...

Here's a Thanksgiving (kinda) poem by Shel Silverstein. Wouldn't you know it comes from his quirky point of view. Don't let this stop you from enjoying that turkey, I know I won't.

Point of View

Thanksgiving dinner's sad and thankless
Christmas dinner's dark and blue
When you stop and try to see it
From the turkey's point of view.

Sunday dinner isn't sunny
Easter feasts are just bad luck
When you see it from the viewpoint
Of a chicken or a duck.

Oh how I once loved tuna salad
Pork and lobsters, lamb chops too
'Til I stopped and looked at dinner
From the dinner's point of view.

- Shel Silverstein

Barb B said...

Wow, that was a challenge! I loved it. There were lots of words I didn’t know; most came from the crosses, and some were swags, but still I finished without hitting the g spot. I never copped to the theme until it was clued in 58A, and still didn’t see the connection. Thank you, C.C.

I also loved the having double J’s and Z’s, with a q and an x thrown in. So scrabbly and so much fun.

Clear Ayes, what a fun thing to meat Conway Twitty. He was sooooo country, but he wrote very pro-women lyrics (not all that common for country music.) I think my favorite was Tight Fittin’ Jeans--

She tried to hide it by the faded denim clothes she wore
But I knew she'd never been inside a bar before
And I felt like a peasant who just had met a queen
And she knew I saw right through her tight fittin' jeans

steve said...

Hi CC and all;

Like you I enjoyed the Barry
Silk puzzle too, however, I never understood the theme until I came to your blog. I got middle earth but primarily from the perps. I guessed zztop and didn't understand at par for how some stocks sell. I went on line to check some of my fills and noticed the on line version had 32 A clued as like Jan Steen. I wouldn't have got that one.

CC you should rent 48 hrs it's good; Eddy murphy at his best.

@argyle thanks for the marilyn Vos Savant info. I learned something new today.

I hope everyone has a happy thanks giving tomorrow. At the table say a special thanks for the boys and girls fighting for us overseas. I remember that being a hard time to be away from friends and familey.

Argyle said...

Another interesting thing is why she(41A) chose to be called Marilyn vos Savant instead of Marilyn Mach. The thought is that sons take the father's name and daughters take the mother's name.

I think I like that better than those hyphenated names some people use.

JD said...

Good afternoon C.C. and all,
Loved today's c/w.Woomera is a great sounding word, new to me. Loved clue for 25D, nth. Had forgotten oriel from an earlier puzzle, but had it in my notebook.Had to change I say no, to I say so.Haven't thought of Jujubees for a long time, probably because they took out many of my fillings as a kid.

The sirens played a small role in The Odyssey. They tried to lure Odysseus's ( Ulysses) ship into the rocks with their seductive songs, but Odysseus put wax in his crew's ears and had them tie him to the mast. They passed by the Isle of Sirens without incident.

It's FINALLY raining..mmmm, love it!

Anonymous said...

To C.C. and Martin:

In 67A, to read st as street would yield the same answer. One of Milwaukee's main thoroughfares is Wisconsin Avenue.

Marquette University is on Wisconsin Avenue; I was there 1957 - 1962.

Anonymous said...

I came across your blog when looking for answers to this crossword puzzle. My grandmother and I were working on it this morning in Bakersfield, CA. We were curious about the theme and were unsure how it is incorporated throughout the puzzle. From your comments, it seems that this crossword author uses themes regularly. Would you mind giving a little more explanation as to how it works? Thank you.

Mr. Ed said...

G'day all....

Heeee's baaaack tall, tan, and rested; well two out of three ain't bad. And yes, thank you, Hawaii is lovely this time of year but predictably unpredictable for rain.

I finally had time to check out the xw and couldn't have been happier to see Barry Silk. I gave me a warm fuzzy feeling that I had arrived home to a friendly face. I have the impression though, that a few of the clues were changed by the editor. But that's a bump in the road we have to live with I guess. Anyway, to make a short story boring, I got the coveted blackout with a few educated guesses and perps and all is well in Whooville.

Conway Twitty - too many hits to single out any one. Although he died in 1993, he still holds the record for the greatest number of #1 Hits(55) of any country artist. His first song to make the charts was 'I Need Your Lovin'. It barely broke into the top 100 in 1957. His first #1 song was 'It's Only Make Believe' in 1957 & it sold over 8 million copies. Changed his name from Harold Jenkins while looking at a map. He picked out Conway, Arkansas and Twitty, Texas and adopted Conway Twitty for his professional career.

ZZ Top - La Grange is their most famous riff piece.

btw - congratulations C.C. on reaching a million!

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! (Canadians, just ignore it)

ttfn

I'm outta here

Mr. Ed said...

Oops! It's only make believe was '58... pardon the typo. (and the additional count)

ttfn

DoesItinInk said...

A bad work day again today. It is after 3 pm, and I finally grabbed a bite of lunch. So now I will sneak a few minutes to read messages and post.

First…the puzzle started out very easy, but the top, middle gave me a fit! We don’t have cable, so any cable channels other than HBO are unknown to me, and HBO did not fit in 4D! I got POLISH for 5D, CLEAR THE AIR for 18A, and INLAW for 22A. And there I was stuck for the longest time. I am still not sure what enabled me to see the other answers in that area, but finally it all came together, and I wondered why I had had so many problems.

I did not particularly like the clue “cornered aloft” for TREES as I think of aloft as being “in the air”. So I was thinking of a word like “banking”, a maneuver a plane might make when turning a corner in the air.

I did like the clue for 39D. Even if I was not ON A roll, I enjoyed the mental vision of someone running by without clothes on! LOL

@cc: Thanks for putting the theme in green. Without that I doubt I would have seen it!

@Mark in Buenos Aires: Thanks for giving another cryptic clue. These are still hard for me, so maybe you need to give clues yet. But not too much of a clue, please!

@Clear Ayes: I so enjoyed the Shel Silverstein poem. I used to read a lot of Shel Silverstein to my girls when they were little, and he still has the magic to make me smile. I was talking to someone about my heritage turkey recently…free ranged, no antibiotics, etc…and he asked if they were killed in a humane way. I told him that I didn’t think it mattered to the turkey either way as the turkey would only enjoy NOT being killed.

DoesItinInk said...

@Mark in Buenos Aires...is the answer LIMEADE? MEAD being the "honey potion", and LIE being "tell story". Rearranged it makes LIMEADE? OOOOOh! I think I finally got one!!!! Tell me it is so!

Clear Ayes said...

Doesitinink, I'd been saving the Shel Silverstein poem for either Thanksgiving or Christmas, but I couldn't wait for another month and had to share it now. I'm glad you enjoyed it too.

I'm sure your turkey was dispatched very humanely. Those turkeys aren't inexpensive and the farm probably takes good care of them, including their demise.

Barb B, Wellll, I know it was a typo, but I had to LOL at your comment "what a fun thing to meat Conway Twitty." After all Barb, I was only 16!

In 1958, Conway Twitty hadn't switched to country yet. He was pretty much an Elvis wannabe and that is what we girls thought of him. He certainly made a wise choice to go Country and let his own style shine through instead of trying to be like someone else.

Martin, Congratulations on Ian's first words. Next thing you know, he will be doing the Howie Mandel fist bump.

Anonymous said...

mark - Buenos Aires

Correct!
Tell a story - Lie

about honey potion - mead

so

Li-mead-e = limeade, soft drink

Buckeye said...

Blogger Buckeye said...

I thought I would be gone until next week, but I have to pass this on to you DF's and KH's. Be sure to be careful while "imbibing" tomorrow. I will, with the help of my good friend Dan Jenkins, relate something to be aware of for yourself and others.

The 10 stages of drunkenness. (Please do not take offense to one of the words in the list below.)

Stage 1. Witty and Charming
2. Rich and Powerful.
3. Benevolent.
4. Clairvoyant.
5. F**k Dinner.
6. Patriotic.
7. Crank Up The Enola Gay.
8. Witty and Charming, Part II.
9. Invisible.
10. Bulletproof.

People will do strange things when they drink themselves "Invisible". They do these strange things because they know in a drink or two they will be "Bulletproof". I knew a guy that took off all of his clothes, put on a pair of roller skates and proudly announced he was a "pull toy". AND, one time I got naked, painted myself green and yellow, placed my penis in my right ear and said I was a BP gas pump. Some were not amused.

I, too, Carl, love Beavers. How can you not love that from where you came, and hope to come again.

So, have a Happy and Safe Thanksgiving and remember to consume responsibly.

I must be off.

RichShif said...

Hi c.c. and all,

Another easy puzzle. Waiting for the unsolvalbe is coming. We have had it easy for to long.

c.c. I think Martin found ZZ Top and Pual Anka being next to each other funny, is becuase their musical styles are so different.

Clear Ayes said...

Buckeye, re: BP pump. "Some" just don't have any sense of humor.

lois said...

Buckeye: what a hoot! BP gas pump? That is so funny! If I had seen that, I would've filled up my carriage and then swiped my card 'behind' the pump and been a little dubious about the receipt. Butt, that's just me!

JD said...

Buckeye, LMAO!! What a great visual

Anonymous said...

Have you done legal easy yet?
Is it possible to see these crosswords online anywhere or do you actually have to buy a paper