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Feb 7, 2010

Sunday February 7, 2009 Dan Naddor

Theme: Heros Welcome - SUB (hero sandwich) is inserted into familiar phrases.

23A. Confidential town green projects?: (SUB) ROSA PARKS. Base phrase is civil rights activist Rosa Parks. "Sub rosa" is literally "under the rose" in Latin. From the old practice of hanging a rose over a meeting as a symbol of confidentiality.

28A. Inferior salad dressing ingredient?: (SUB)STANDARD OIL. Standard Oil.

33A. What a white flag indicates?: COMBAT (SUB)MISSION. Combat Mission.

50A. Pine tar?: BATTING (SUB)STANCE. Batting Stance. Baseball players use pine tar (substance) to improve grips on balls/bats.

65A. Early 1600s threat to the English throne?: KING JAMES (SUB)VERSION. King James Version. King James reigned from 1567 to 1625.

82A. Government overseer of the mortgage crisis?: (SUB)PRIME MINISTER. Prime Minister.

94A. Dannon disciples?: YOGURT (SUB)CULTURE. Yogurt Culture. The good bacteria, right, Al?

101A. Bookkeeper's gift?: (SUB)TOTAL RECALL. Total Recall.

115A. Sensational sapphire, say?: (SUB) LIME STONE. Limestone.

Just what we always expect from Dan Naddor: heavy themage, fun & long theme entries and playful clues. All of the SUBs are nicely sandwiched in. Yogurt Culture is the only base phrase I am not familiar with. I also did not know that the plural form for hero is heros when it means hero sandwiches.

Jazzbumpa should love this puzzle. Lots of music references in the grid:

41A. Musical work: OPUS

54A. Song for which Pavarotti won a 1980 Grammy: 'O SOLE MIO. Here is a clip. Italian for "My Sun".

58A. "Evita" role: CHE. The "Evita" narrator.

119A. Stereo knob: TREBLE

6D. "Red Seal" record co.: RCA

17D. "Dedicated to the __ Love": 1960s hit: ONE I. Easy guess.

31D. Very, in music: ASSAI (uh-SAHY). What's Italian for "enough"? Similar to Assai, isn't it?

33D. Jazzy Laine: CLEO. Nope. Complete stranger.

50D. Key with five sharps: Abbr.: B MAJ. I blanked.

51D. Concert souvenirs: STUBS

70D. Jazz club unit: SET

99D. Tuba's first note?: OOM. Oom-pah is the rhythmical sound made by a tuba.

My favorite clues today are the three with "it":

21A. It's not free of charge: ION. Ion is charged atom.

27A. It might be a bust: STATUE. Indeed.

35D. It may be held at lunchtime: MAYO. Related to today's SUB theme.

Across:

1. Zingers: BARBS

6. Dennis in comics, e.g.: RASCAL. Shout-out to our morel guy Dennis who loves flying United. And URCHIN (43D. Ragamuffin).

12. Phone button letters: GHI. The 4 button.

15. Prince William's alma mater: ETON

19. Voodoo relative: OBEAH (OH-bee-uh). In West Indies. I can never remember this sorcery name.

20. Iron target: CREASE. Was imagining a golf iron.

22. One of a 15th century trio: NINA. Columbus's ship.

25. Old English pub proprietors: ALEWIVES

30. Gillette razor: ATRA

45. Slightest: LEAST

46. Metallic money: SPECIE. The coined money. Same root as species?

47. Chaperon: ESCORT

49. Big name in ice cream: EDY. Edy's. To be exact.

57. U.S. security: T-NOTE. Treasury security.

60. "Tahitian Women on the Beach" artist: GAUGUIN (Paul). Here is the painting.

64. Trounce: WHIP

71. Divide: PART

72. Wave through, as at a guard station: LET PASS

73. Reef dweller: EEL. Did not know eels dwell in reefs.

74. "Just as I thought!": OHO

75. Grave: ACUTE. As in grave/acute shortage of food/medical supplies in Haiti.

77. Hostage negotiator's group: SWAT TEAM

88. Letters before F?: TGI. Oh, TGIF. I wanted CDE, thinking of alphabet.

89. Vehicle with caterpillar treads: SNO-CAT. No idea. Why "caterpillar treads"?

90. Wicker material: RATTAN

91. Procyon or Canopus: F STAR. Always at a total loss of the star classification.

93. Vittles: EATS

99A. Welsh actress Tessie: O'SHEA. Sorry, don't know you. I am used to Milo O'Shea clue. Also not familiar with LILI (109D. Taylor of "Six Feet Under"), which is often clued as "Leslie Caron film". CLEO (33D) also has also a new clue today. Rich Norris is in "Change I Can" mood.

100. Next in line: HEIR. In line to succeed a title.

110. Looked like a wolf: LEERED

114. '60s Defense secretary: MCNAMARA (Robert)

117. Server of many kosher meals: EL AL. The Israeli airline.

118. Sylvester, to Tweety: TAT. Puddy Tat (pussy cat). Not familiar with "The Sylvester and Tweety" at all. Filled in SLY.

120. Malfunction: ACT UP

121. Sing the blues: WAIL. Mournfully. Nice clue.

122. That, in Tijuana: ESO. Or ESA.

123. Becomes pervasive: SETS IN

Down:

1. Head honcho: BOSS. We often see the abbreviated EXEC.

2. Touch: ABUT

4. Drinkers may run them: BAR TABS

5. Berate loudly: SHOUT AT

7. Some dadaist works: ARPS. Jean Arp. Dada pioneer.

8. 12-time Pro Bowl NFLer Junior: SEAU. Now with the Patriots. I simply remember his name as S-EAU.

9. Low-__ diet: CARB

10. Solicits: ASKS

11. For fear that: LEST

12. Designer Versace: GIANNI. Only know his surname.

13. Not abandon, as principles: HOLD TO

14. Sincerely: IN EARNEST

15. Seat of Oklahoma's Garfield County: ENID. Four letter Oklahoma name, what else could it be?

16. Modern recorder: TIVO

18. Cosmos' org.: NASL (North American Soccer League). I've never heard of NY Cosmos.

24. Spanish muralist: SERT (José María).

26. Like some humor: WRY

29. DDE opponent: AES (Adlai E. Stevenson)

34. Refs. that take up lots of shelf space: OEDS. OED = Oxford English Dictionary.

37. Get in the pool: BET. Of course I was thinking of swimming pool.

38. Old AT&T rival: MCI. Now Verizon.

39. "There's no __ team": I IN. Said Michael Jordon.

40. Line part: Abbr.: SEG

41. Andean stew veggie: OCA. Learned these veggies from doing crossword.

42. Something to save for a rainy day: PONCHO. Use ponchos as raincoat?

44. Expensive: STEEP

48. Fr. holy woman: STE (Sainte)

52. Place to get your B.S.: UNIV

53. Token concession: BONE. Throw a couple of bones. Got me.

55. Navel buildup: LINT

56. Tiny bit of work: ERG. The tiny work unit. Fraction of a joule.

60. "__ while they're hot!": GET 'EM

61. Nile biter: ASP. Play on "nail biter".

63. Gloomy guy: GUS

64. Chamberlain of the NBA: WILT. Braggart.

65. Hawaiian priest: KAHUNA. Hey, finally a Hawaiian reference.

66. Collection in which Asimov's story "Robbie" appears: I, ROBOT

68. Hand (out): METE

69. Keister: REAR

71. Riders after robbers: POSSE

75. Heavenly altar: ARA. Latin for "altar".

76. Carthage, for one: CITY STATE. I peeked at the answer sheet.

77. Attempt: STAB

78. Lusty lass: WENCH. I don't associate wench with "lusty".

79. Words following Casca's "Speak, hands, for me!": ET TU. "Et tu, Brute?". Was unaware of what preceded Caesar's last line.

80. Food thickener: AGAR

81. Bog down: MIRE

83. Staples staples, briefly: PCS. The office staples at Staples.

84. Discount rack abbr.: IRR

87. Disco __ of "The Simpsons": STU

91. Charges: FLIES AT. New idiom to me.

92. Track straightaway: STRETCH. Racing track?

95. Mitchell family: O'HARAS. Margaret Mitchell. "Gone With the Wind''.

96. Trattoria dessert: GELATO

97. Former Mideast inits.: UAR (United Arab Republic). The union between Egypt and Syria from 1958 to 1961. Don't confuse it with UAE (United Arab Emirates)

98. River to the Ubangi: UELE (WEY-luh). Probably only Barry Silk knows. He used it in an old TMS puzzle before. UELE is on the upper right corner. The word Ubangi is on the upper middle part, under "Central African Republic".

101. Diving duck: SMEW

102. Bruins' home: UCLA

103. __ B'rith: B'NAI. Literally "Sons of" in Hebrew. B'nai B'rith = Sons of the Covenant. Strange apostrophes.

104. Towering: TALL

105. Round nos.: ESTS (Estimates)

106. Restore to health: CURE. HEAL too.

107. Aid's partner: ABET

108. Overseas bar degs.: LLBS. In England. Barrister's deg.

111. Memorization: ROTE

113. Interior, e.g.: Abbr.: DEPT. Department of Interior.

Just discovered Frenchie's blog this morning. Nice photos.

Answer grid.

C.C.

58 comments:

kazie said...

Nice to be first, which is a first for me for a long time anyway.
Couldn't sleep this morning so am up super early. Maybe by the time I finish typing someone else will have pipped me at the post.

I used red letters for several today, even though I'd decided to try master level this week. I switched early. I simply don't get a "feel" for the flow when it's not on paper.

C.C.,
I think 53D is in the sense of "throw a dog a bone"--metaphorically it means to give someone a small concession, or treat, to keep them from bugging you. Like in congress when they need to sweeten the deal to get a bill passed. this accounts for the watering down of the health care bill to the point where it really doesn't do much good.

As usual when I do it online, I missed several clues. That's probably another reason I don't do so well--I typically zigzag through a puzzle checking as I go. When distracted by not seeing all the perp clues at once that won't work as well.

I thought the theme was a nice simple concept, but after first two at the top, was expecting the SUBS to all be at the beginning. Other than that nothing I really want to make note of.

Crockett,
Last night, I meant to congratulate you on your weightloss. What's your secret?

Have a great Sunday everyone!

Hahtoolah said...

Good Morning, CC and Friends. A good Dan Naddor puzzle this morning. A few missteps, but was able to get it figured out without any outside help, which is an accomplishment on a Sunday puzzle.

Gianni Versace was killed in 1997. His sister, Donatella, now heads the company.

I hope everyone who was snowed under in the storm yesterday survived without any power outages.

In honor of the Super Bowl this evening, here is today's QOD: Mi zeh! Me zeh! Mi zeh omer yakhvosh et haSaddikim! Mi zeh!

Gracie said...

Good morning! I really enjoyed today's puzzle, but it took me nearly an hour to complete, even online with red letter help. I got the theme early on, which is very unusual for me.

Thank goodness the snow storm didn't hit this far north. We've been spared big storms so far this winter. So Far ....

Jazzbumpa - did you comment the other day that you were married in the courthouse in Dearborn? I grew up within 2 blocks of the city hall!

I hope all those who are into the Super Bowl enjoy the game and the associated food, drinks, and parties.
Gracie

Anonymous said...

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Hahtoolah said...

CC: With respect to your comment about the strange use of apostrophes in the word “B’nai B’rith.” B’nai B’rith is a Hebrew term and, because Hebrew uses a different alphabet, it is transliterated into the Roman alphabet for English readers. When written in Hebrew, the term look like this (read from right to left) בני ברית

Some sounds in Hebrew are not used in English and vice versa. Thus, when Hebrew is transliterated into English, the apostrophes indicate some of these different sounds. There are no standard rules for transliteration; however, some common terms, such as B’nai B’rith, have become “standardized” in English, so are always written the same way in English.

(P.S. My QOD is a rough transliteration of the Saint's Who Dat chant.)

Crockett1947 said...

Good morning, everyone! Comments try, part 2 (lost my first attempt due to operator error).

@kazie So nice of Dennis to let you come first. Remember that good things also come to those who wait.

WOW! A Silky on Saturday and a Dan Naddor on Sunday. That makes for an excellent puzzle weekend.

C.C., ALEDIVES looked good to me. Had to go to "Reveal" to get the correction from D to W. DRY/WRY, looked like it could work. Portland Opera is currently performing Mozart's Cosi Fan Tutti, and is promoting it as a look at the foibles of love served with a slice of WRY.

The waterproof PONCHOS are basically a piece of tailored/shaped plastic.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...

@kazie My wife and I are on a program called Take Shape For Life which uses Medifast products for nutrition. We have 5 Medifast meals and 1 "Lean and Green" meal a day, spaced two and a half to three hours apart. Day 122 and going strong.

@hahtool Thanks for your QOD explanation. I thought your fingers had drifted to the wrong home keys!

Hope the quietude today is not due to power difficulties for our east coast contingent.

Have a great Sunday!!

carol said...

Hi all - I don't work the Sunday puzzles but I was reading last nights comments and wanted to say a big congratulation to Crockett on his weight loss of 65# in 4 months. That is quite an accomplishment, good for you! What sort of exercise do you enjoy? (guess that's a leading question though) ;)

Al said...

@C.C., here are snocats and Caterpillars. The treads are so-called because they resemble the way an actual caterpillar bunches up in the middle as it moves along, and the idler wheels that support the middle of the tread used on tanks and bulldozers make the same sort of bumps.

And yes, guardedly, the cultures in yogurt are the good kind of flora that should populate your gut. The dose you get is quite small, though. In babies, the right bacteria can prevent the development of allergies and obesity. There may even be a partial link to autism in there somewhere with the wrong population balance. Antibiotics kill all your intestinal flora, and the "bad" ones can then take over afterward making you "sick" all the time.

If you do take antibiotics, sometimes neccessary if you have not been eating the right foods to keep your gut healthy, such as greens and fibrous vegetables and you get "sick", it is important to also take a good probiotic to restore your immune balance. I haven't had even so much as a cold in nearly four years now since I started taking probiotics (and just a few other supplements). Roughly 80% of your immune system is in your gut. I really believe that it isn't the germs that make you sick, it is the terrain, your immune system, that allows it to happen when it has been weakened.

Now, having said all of that in response to a simple yogurt question, I would caution you somewhat about commercial yogurts. They very often have lots of sugar and/or high fructose corn syrup as sweeteners, so read the labels carefully and don't buy them if they have added sweeteners.

Also, you probably should read up on what pasteurization does to commercial milk products, since all dairy has to go through that. Along with killing essential enzymes, it alters the proteins and is most likely the cause of why so many people have lactose intolerance and other milk-related allergies.

A long post again, sorry. Some subjects just manage to push my buttons...

Buckeye said...

A rare Sunday post. Can't wait to talk to my daughter in Seattle. (See last night's post). Don't get LAT Sunday x/w.

Hahtool: I love your posts. Thank you!

Jazz: I was married in Toledo. I swear, the Judge's name was Reno Reiley. Just shows my marriage was a "crap shoot" from the beginning.
You stated earlier that you spent your honeymoon there, as did I. The great thing about mine was - at the hotel where we stayed - The Mud Hen Hilton, or something - Count Basie was there that night. It was memorable because, after listening and dancing to great music, I later learned my now X-wife confused oral and verbal sex. I got a lot of one, and none of the other. 66 years old and still awaiting my first BJ. (Chances are slimmer and slimmer!)

'Nuff said!!

I must be off!!

Buckeye said...

Windhover: Earl Pitts - I must be off!!

IMBO

Buckeye said...

P.S. Anybody out there want to switch minds for a day? This one is DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!

IMBO

Crockett1947 said...

@carol Thank you. Stop by the library and see the New me! Enjoy exercise? So far the only change is a ramp up in walking -- 10,000 steps at least three days a week, and over 5000 the others.

Looks like we may need to go to a word verification system for posting to get rid of spam robots. Don't even THINK of going to any of those sites promoted by our good buddy anonymous!

@buckeye WTMI!!

Mark said...

This was a good puzzle today. My favorite clues were:35D "It may be held at lunchtime" and "Something to save for a rainy day" at 42D. I did not care much for FSTAR at 91A. New words to remember were UELE(98D),GELATO(96D)and OCA(41D).

Gracie said...

Ah, Gelato. This is not a new word to me anymore, having sampled some wonderful gelato last summer in Italy. Delicious!
Gracie

Argyle said...

I'm afraid I will have to disagree with you, Al, on why they are called caterpillar treads. The hump on the top has nothing to do with it. It is the bottom.

The whole length of the tread rides on the ground, just like the insect. And like the caterpillar stays in contact with contours of the ground, vehicles with treads have bogie wheels between the two main wheels that move up and down, keeping the tread in constant contact with uneven terrain.

OK, I know this isn't a real dozer but it illustrates the action.

Buckeye said...

Argyle, you genius. Now give that toy back to your grandkid.

Any betters out there? Mortgage your house, sell the car, borrow all you can, hook your wife and bet it all on the Saints (taking the 5 points - but they'll win outright).

Of course, this comes from a man whose last winning bet was taking David to defeat that big dude, Goliath. Since then......

IMBO

ipo said...

CC and others-- PONCHO almost killed me! This was not my best of days and will not be the worst of days. I was hoping someone was going to throw me a BONE. I remember quite well the man hunt for the killer of GIANNI Versace, as do many who lived in Florida at that time.
@ Arqyle--cool lego demo
@ Frenchie--nice family photo
@ Buckeye--you are always a hoot, I might take you up on switching brains for a short while....It would be an interesting walk in the park!! But, I don't know how you would like mine, I am very "A" personality. You would want yourself back very quickly!

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, For Saturday and Sunday, I try to get through it on my own. But it seems that I always have to go back and check "indicate incorrect letter immediately" in the Cruciverb solving preferences, in order to finish up.

Today was no exception.I was back to being frustrated by all the little three and the four letter fill. I count on them to make the perp links to get theme entries. BET, MCI and I IN, and ESTS, LLBS and LILI are all examples of what were Down"ers" for me. Still, I loved seeing Dan Naddor's name as the constructor.

BTW, Cruciverb.com works very well for the left-coasters. It has the next day's puzzle ready for download at 7 PM. It is usually a done deal for me by 8 or 9 PM.

Congratultions Crockett. Losing weight is always a tough battle.

Buckeye, what a nice experience for both you and Rickie. My daughter and I shared a Billy Joel concert about 30 years ago (I can't believe he has been around that long.) We were both fans. I can only wish it had been a tandem concert with Elton John.

GAH and I are headed to a SB party this afternoon. I'm rooting for the Saints, he's for the Colts. We have a bet. As Buckeye said, "Enuff said."

Enjoy the game, everyone. I hope there aren't any electrical outages in your neighborhoods.

MR ED said...

Easily the hardest puzzle for me ever. The only saving grace was that it incorporated our Dennis, the rascal that he is (chuckle).

In reference to probiotics and tummy health, it reminds me of the times when I lived with my grandmother who migrated here from Syria.
At every meal, we had a side dish of what was called Luban(pronounced luh-bin). It was made from soured milk and was the consistency of yogurt. A great aid to digestion. I still buy it when I get to a store that sells Mediterranean food.

Kazie,
You are always first in my book.

Hahtool,
I understand what B'nai B'rith is but translate it for me. Also, AZA.

Anon 8:35 A.M. ,
What the heck are you saying in your post?

Gracie, how far north are you?

Dennis,
How much snow did you get? We got 6 inches. Don't you dare shovel. Same goes for all you other guys over 55.
C,C.,
How've you been?

Dick said...

Good afternoon C.C. and All, things are getting somewhat back to normal here the big snow. It took several walk a ways before this one got solved. For some reason I just did not have the mental aptitude for puzzles today. Hate to say it, but this was a struggle for me albeit finally doable with just a little bit of help.

The first error I noted after getting here was I had “dry” for “wry” which gave me “aledives” for Old English pub proprietors which looked good to me just like Crockett.

Oh well, I need to be a bit more snow grooming before the next storm arrives on Tuesday/Wednesday.

Hope you all have a great Sunday.

Gracie said...

Mr Ed - I'm in southeast Michigan, right now enjoying bright sunshine and only small remains of snow here and there. We're in for some heavy snow midweek, so I'm not putting away the snow shovel yet.
Gracie

eddyB said...

Hello all.

I thought 9 SUBs was a lot untill
I did Merl's.

The last rain storm should get to the east coast in the form of snow
in 3/4 days. Right now the sun is playing peek-a-boo with the clouds.

Did manage to get some photos of the almond tree blossoms before people start pulling off branches
thinking they are cherry blossoms.

Just finished Parker's "Night and Day" a few days ago.

eddeyB

Jazzbumpa said...

Hi gang -

C.C - you're right, I liked this puzzle a lot, and not just for the musical references. It was a Dan extravaganza!

If OLEDIVES isn't a word, it should be. I thought ALEWIFE was a fish.

Gracie - yup, married in the court house by Judge Sobatka. She has since retired. My son and his fiance (then, wife now) were our witnesses. We had a nice lunch at the Dearborn Inn. Lived for 13 years on Bingham, near St. Al's.

I had an infection in the middle finger of my right hand in Sept. '07. Probably from a spider bite. Damned dirty spiders. You never know where they've been. I was on intravenous and then oral antibiotic. Heavy artillery. A finger infection is serious business - can easily lead to blood or bone infections. You do not want them. The warning on the pamphlet that came with the oral antibio basically said "you probably aren't gonna die from this, but . . ." Scared the hell out of me. I asked the Doc at my follow up visit, and he said to get a multi-strain pro-biotic. I stopped at GNC on the way home. Wound up with another oral antibio course a few months later with a wisdom tooth issue. Back on the probiotics, for sure. Antibiotics are scorched earth in your digestive system.

I eat some fat-free lite yogurt just about every day. Pre-biotic foods are important, too - bananas (not just for the potassium) whole wheat, bran, some veggies.

Happy digesting.

Geaux Saints!
JzB

Anonymous said...

I love your clear blogging, CC. It helps me a lot. Happy Xiao Nian to you and your family.

Sue Lin

Anonymous said...

Heroes Welcome, not Heros.

Anonymous said...

Anon at 2:37, The puzzle title is not heroes, a plural of hero: a valiant/heroic person. It is a HERO (SUBmarine) sandwich...so HEROS, or HERO'S WELCOME is the correct title.

From another Anon

dodo said...

I sailed right through this one until
the SSW when I put in supremestone. I should have known the p would be wrong. That would have straightened out everything. Well, not everything, because I also boobooed on bookkeeper's gift, which finally ended up subtotaledcost. Crazy?

I did manage to get this one very late last night, but I didn't finish it til now. Decided to try it online but it's much faster for me on paper. I noted the red squares but can't figure out in what way they help. I guess there's still some mystery I haven't solved. But we can't win'em all.

dodo said...

Crocket, Cheers! What an accomplishment. I've been "watching my diet" for at least 50 years and I still look like a fireplug.

Emily Post said...

Anon at 2:37, Blogging Etiquette Rules #1: please read the blogger's write-up (and the previous posters comments) before you post.

windhover said...

ClearAyes:
If you lose the bet, could you help Buckeye out, too?
Yeah, I know you're sort of brother and sister, but that's OK, he lives in SW Ohio.
I heard recently the Hamilton (Ohio) Library burned. Lost both books, and one hadn't been colored yet.
I have ne preference, but I have a prediction:
Colts by 14 or more. Book it!

Anonymous said...

LOL - It's a slow day on the blog, so I'll throw something different out there:

I was finally getting some information into my blog profile and checked the box to get another question. This is what it gave me:

"You're trapped in a well with a goat and a slinky. Describe how you will escape."

Not the kind of question I was expecting!

MJ said...

Loved this puzzle! Dan Naddor at his best. And since it was a Sunday, I got to enjoy it longer. Was tickled by the clues "Riders after robbers" and "Next in line."

C.C.-Thank you for the stellar write-up! I had no idea what "SUBROSA" was, but you explained it so clearly. And a belated shout-out to Boomer for his great write-up on Thursday!

Crockett-Congratulations on the weight loss. That's awesome!

Enjoy the game!

melissa bee said...

good afternoon c.c. and all,

great explanation of the theme, did not know the meaning of sub rosa. also appreciated your cleverly worded observation "All of the SUBs are nicely sandwiched in." very witty theme clues and answers by dan. thanks for the gauguin link, pretty.

didn't know oca, but they look similar to some rainbow carrots i just got in my csa (community supported agriculture) delivery. anyone know what they taste like?

TEiAM. problem solved.

Argyle said...

Who Dat Puddy Tat!

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

Kazie et al,
Please let me have your interpretation of the following quote:

"The art of the orient has purposely avoided the symmetrical as expressing not only completion, but repetition. Uniformity of design was considered as fatal to the freshness of imagination".

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

Haltool,
Thanks for the explanation on B’nai B’rith. I had thought the apostrophe means "of", since B’nai means "sons of". So what does B’rith mean then?

MR ED,
I am doing superb. Thanks for asking. I am curious, why do you pick MR ED as your avatar?
Are you based in Pennsylvania also?

Al,
Since I don't eat dairy products, where do I get my Probiotics food-wise. Miso soup? So salty, the same with other fermented products.

windhover said...

CC:
I am not an artist, not even a pretender. But I took a class in Asian Art History during my most recent (1991-1995) stint in college. The class was taught by a Chinese man, who on the day we attempted to do water color painting, said to me, "Windhover, you do not have one ounce of creativity in your entire body". He was right, of course, but still I was not unhappy that they fired his ass at the end of the semester.
Happily, that is not my only retained memory from the class. I remember that much Asian (Oriental) art, particularly the Nipponese, is very spare; for example, a landscape will contain a single tree, which rather than being centered in the painting, will move the focal point to the margins of the painting, drawing, or woodblock. My interpretation of the quote is that symmetry and repetition are "lazy" forms of communicating the idea of the artist, and to represent or convey the thought behind the image assymmetrically is more difficult, i.e., requires more imagination.
Got to go feed the goats.
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Annette said...

Sorry, the 3:26 post was me. I'm not sure why I came up as Anonymous since I had to be logged in to be updating my profile...

When I came on to do the puzzle this morning and saw "Dan Naddor" was the constructor, I got up to fortify myself with another cup of coffee before starting! It must've helped, because it went fairly smoothly for me today.

Related to what kazie was saying earlier about doing the puzzle online vs. paper: On paper, it is easier to glance at the whole page to see the theme or cross-referenced clues, than online!

Hahtoolah said...

CC and Mr. Ed: “B’nai B’rith” literally means “children of the covenant.” Apostrophes in transliterated words are not grammatical punctuation marks. B’nai B’rith is a Jewish humanitarian organization that began in the mid-1800s initially to help immigrants adapt to life in the United States.

The Hebrew word for “son” is “ben” and the Hebrew word for “daughter” is “bat.” The plural forms of these words are “b’nai” and “b’not”, respectively. “B’nai” also means “children” when speaking of a mixed group of both boys and girls. (A bar mitzvah literally means “son of the commandment.” The word here for “son” is “bar”, which is actually an Aramaic word. It is used for grammatical reasons.)

The word “b’rith” means “covenent.” You might also see this phrase: “b’rith milah”, which means “covenant of circumcision.”

AZA is the youth organization of the B’nai B’rith. I don’t think the letters actually stand for anything.

Tinbeni said...

Perfect, on Super Bowl Sunday a Dan Naddor, the King of the Puns.

BARTABS, a fave.
OHO, didn't like the cluing.

Now it is time for the Colts to win.

Anonymous said...

Yes, but what's entropy think?

Lucina said...

A good Sunday to all and may your fav team win. I'm not a sports fan so don't watch.
Normally I skip the Sunday puzzle because of its length, but seeing Dan Naddor's name picked me right up. I loved the "sub" theme; had to split the workout to go visit my "babies" daughter and two granddaughters, then lunch after Churh. My son-in-law sold a house! It's been long and dry for real estate.
Hahtool thank you for the explanation of B'Nai B'rith. I have often puzzled over that. I add my congratulations to Crockett; losing weight is hard.
Stay warm, eastcoasters, my thoughts are with you.

Al said...

@C.C. non-dairy food sources would be fermented things like sauerkraut, kimchi, tempeh, and soy sauce. However, most commercial versions of those have been pasteurized, and so the live cultures have been killed and are not helpful. You need to make sure they state that they have live cultures, or else make them yourself.

I agree, kind of salty. You other option is to buy capsules. The trouble with that is sorting out what is a truly good product from those just trying to make a quick buck.

kazie said...

Crockett,
Thanks for the info. I've heard before that eating several small meals is better than fewer big ones. But of course getting the balance right must have a lot to do with it too. You'll have to give us a new photo with the resulting evidence!

Mr. Ed.
Flattery will get you everywhere!

C.C.,
On first reading, it was very confusing. But on a second reading and looking into what WH said, I think I agree with him. When lining up something to photograph, it always works better if you can pose your subject asymmetrically and frame it with a foreground item like a tree or something to create interest on one side, arching over the "roof" of the picture a little. It seems Asian art often does the same thing, to great effect. It makes it much more interesting than a symmetrical viewpoint.

Robin said...

holy cow what a game.........

Tinbeni said...

Congratulations New Orleans!

Reminds me of the Game when my Bucs came back an won it. America does love it when the underdog wins.

WHO DAT!
DAT IS DA SAINTS!

I lost exactly ZERO dollars.
Time for a double Scotch!!!

Anonymous said...

One for you and one for Entropy?

Robin said...

the Sisters LOVE the Saints

Hahtoolah said...

Life is good in the Big Easy!

Jazzbumpa said...

Wow! Two great teams and coaching staffs, one amazing game.

Super bowls used to be duds, but the last few have been terrific.

The LW and I became Sts. fans after Katrina.

I have nothing against the Colts, but this is a great, really special moment; like something from a story book.

Cheers!
JzB the not-a-Saint trombonist

PJB-Chicago said...

Way to Geaux Saints!

"What a great Superbowl" is an expression not uttered by me in my life, because I almost never watch it. [That last fact has gotten me called "anti-American" more than once.] I bet on the underdogs and tonight that bet worked! Quiet ole me was yelling and hollering through the second half -- without an ounce of caffeine or alcohol in me, natch.

The other hit was the chipotle salmon dip I brought. Not too spicy. Lucky for me there was a major sportsfan there to explain the football lingo to me. It's a foreign tongue and I'm not conversant!

Knowing Mme Hahtool was watching too made it even more fun.

windhover said...

And know you know why I don't gamble.

Bill G. said...

That was one of the most enjoyable Superbowl games I've ever watched. Good stuff!

Lemonade714 said...

How fun for the Aints and all of their fans, and an entertaining game at that. The moral of the story – do not get ahead 10 – 0; happened twice, both teams lost.

Meanwhile, Mr. Ohio said, “Any betters out there? Mortgage your house, sell the car, borrow all you can, hook your wife and bet it all on the Saints (taking the 5 points - but they'll win outright).” Who belongs in the crazy house now!

Ipo, you are very right about the press and the Versace murder .

Speaking of morals,
An old man, a boy & a donkey were going to town. The boy rode on the donkey & the old man walked. As they went along they passed some people who remarked it was a shame the old man
was walking and the boy was riding.

The man and boy thought maybe the critics were right, so they changed positions.

Then, later, they passed some people who remarked, ‘what a shame, he makes that little boy walk.'

So they then decided they'd both walk!
Soon they passed some more people who thought
they were stupid to walk when they had a decent donkey to ride.

So, they both rode the donkey.

Now they passed some people who shamed them by saying how awful to put such a load on a poor donkey.

The boy and man figured they were probably right,
so they decide to carry the donkey. As they crossed the bridge, they lost their grip on the animal and he fell into the river and drowned.

The moral of the story?



If you try to please everyone, you might as well..
Kiss your ass goodbye!

Have A Nice Day And
Be Careful With Your ….

Crockett1947 said...

Thank you all for your words of congratulations.

That was a game worth watching. Way to go, Saints!

PJB-Chicago said...

Watch me pivot to make a quick return to the puzzle:
Lots of AHA --okay make that OHO-- moments. After my subpar showing, this grid was a treat. Loved the "substandard oil" fill. Tripped over SERT, SEAU and NASL. Thought Kosher meals were served in a "deli" and Dennis of comics was a "Menace" not a RASCAL, until the perps convinced me otherwise.

C. C.: The word ASSAI in Italian looks awfully close to "assez" [enough] in French, but it does mean "a lot" or "very."
The most common way to say "enough" in Italian is "abbastanza," and its sibling interjection "basta!" The French "assez" can be less negative/pejorative than the word "enough" in English. Saying that something went "assez bien," such as an exam or a trip means it went "pretty well." Getting a grade of "assez bien" on a paper/speech at school is a good thing. The next step down is "passable" which equals about a B minus, C plus. That way of thinking reflects the "mentalité française." The French don't throw compliments around with abandon!

@Buckeye: I'll never doubt your prognostications *ever* again! Great story about your daughter & the concert!
@Crockett: Way to go!

p.s. Blogger decided it, like me, was bored with my avatar and singlehandedly erased it, so I'm cooking up a new one.

Clear Ayes said...

Good evening for me, not so good for GAH. The Colts lost and he lost our bet.

I was happy that the Saints won and I won $100 in the party pool and won $50 from GAH.

We both enjoyed the party... excellent chili and tri-tip sandwiches. I've never seen such a big TV. It was home theater projector. I think the host said it was 104". They have a big family room, so it wasn't overpowering...but almost.

Windhover, LOL, I don't think a virtual payoff by anyone would be what Buckeye had in mind.

MR ED said...

C.C. ,
Did you mean why do I use Mr.ED as my name? And yes, I do live in Penna., do you also?

Hahtool,
I thought b'nai b'rith was kind of a jewish girls sorority and AZA was sort of a fraternity or club for jewish boys.