Mar 9, 2016

Wednesday, March 9, 2016 Bruce Haight

Theme: Will my do do for you? The second words of common two-word phrases are relocated to a common location, as indicated by the unifier, so let's start there.

62. Permanent place, and a hint to the ends of the answers to starred clues : HAIR SALON.  Nice play on "permanent" indicating something of long duration, or, as in this case, a coif treatment. The SALON, of course, is the place where it all happens.

17. *Seriously indoctrinate : BRAIN WASH.  Generally BRAIN WASHING involves some radical or extreme set of ideas, and some powerful coaxing.  A HAIR WASH might be the first step in the SALON's process.

21. *Improvised rap : FREE STYLE.  New usage to me, but it's a real thing.  HAIR STYLE is the way the actual tresses are arranged.

28. *Risqué : OFF COLOR.  Of questionable taste, not suitable for polite company, or as we say here: DF.  The phrase evidently arose ca. 1860 in the diamond industry, referring to stones that are not pure white or of any definite color, and therefore of poor quality.  Hair COLORing is a SALON service.

37. *Weight-training exercise : BICEP CURL.   Demonstrated below.  People with straight HAIR want to acquire a CURL.  This seems to work the other way, as well.

49. *Markdown : PRICE CUT.  Of course, those of us with HAIR need to have it CUT occasionally, even if, as in my case, there's not a lot of it.  A PRICE CUT means you can save money on your purchase - but not as much as if you opt not to make it.

56. *Brand created in Toronto in 1904 : CANADA DRY.  Soft drinks.  And drying the HAIR is what completes the process.

Hi gang - JazzBumpa here, doing my part, so to speak.  With 6 theme entries plus a unifier, this puzzle is unusually thematically rich.  Let's see if we can make it through without getting either clipped or locked up.


1. Computer whose 27-inch version has a Retina 5K display : I-MAC.  Apple product.

5. Down in the mouth : BLUE.  As in "I haz a sad."

9. Rum-soaked cakes : BABAS.  Yo ho ho!

14. Part of rock's CSNY : NASH.  Graham, of Crosby, Stills, NASH and Young.

15. Midterm, e.g. : TEST.  Usually we get EXAM.

16. Eel, to a sushi chef : UNAGI.   If you say so.

19. 13-Down actress Normand : MABEL. [1892-1930]  She collaborated with Mack Sennett.

20. Miracle-__ : GRO.  Plant food.

23. Medical screening system : TRIAGE.   The assignment of degrees of urgency to prioritize the treatment of a large number of patients.

26. Tell (on) : RAT.  Spill the beans.

27. Fiver : FIN.  Slang for a $5 bill.

31. Hill-building stinger : RED ANT.

33. LAX summer setting : Pacific Daylight Time.

34. Director Kazan : ELIA.   Elias Kazantzoglou [September 7, 1909 – September 28, 2003] brought us On The Waterfront, East of Eden, and many more films.

36. "Blue Bloods" actor Will : ESTES.

40. Nurse at a bar : SIP ON.   Another nice word play.

43. 1956 Mideast crisis site : SUEZ.  Seems like it's always a crisis in that part of the world.

44. Mensa concerns : IQ'S.  Intelligence Quotient.

47. Hometown of the Ivy League's Big Red : ITHACA.  Cornell University.

52. Chinese menu general : TSO.  Of chicken fame.

53. Nev. neighbor : IDAho.

55. Binges : SPREES.

60. Chow line? : ARF.   Chow is a dog variety, and ARF is the line it speaks.

61. More than chubby : OBESE.  Seriously over weight.

66. "__ Black" : MEN IN.   Will Smith movie.

67. River to the English Channel : ORNE.  In French Normandy.  

68. "Don't look at me" : NOT I.   Somebody else did it.

69. Brown ermine : STOAT.  Either way, it's a weasel.

70. Hard to box in, ironically : CAGY.  Secretive, cautious, wary, noncommittal.

71. 52 Pickup need : DECK.  Playing cards. 


1. Having five sharps, musically : IN B.  B Major, specifically - not a common key, and quite awkward on the trombone.  The notes in the scale are B, C#, D#, E, F#, G#, A#, B.  

2. Scratch, say : MAR.  Cause a defect.

3. At no cost : AS A GIFT.  Freebie.

4. President before Sarkozy : CHIRAC.   Jaques, b. 1932, president from 1995 - 2007.

5. Digression lead-in, in texts : By The Way.

6. Table extension : LEAF.

7. Cold War initials : USSR.  Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, where many of the residents had red aunts.

8. Early anesthetic : ETHER.

9. Foul tip? : BUM STEER.   Word play for a bit of bad advice.

10. Med. school subject : ANATomy.

11. Newborn's natural insulator : BABY FAT.   Still - you shouldn't leave them out in the cold.

12. Botox target : AGE LINE.   Wrinkle.

13. Films that usually had live music : SILENTS.

18. Scrubbed, at NASA : NO GO.

22. Word with bud or flap : EAR.  For a personal music device or hat.

23. Bikini part : TOP.   Usually it's BRA.

24. Country mail svc. : Rural Free Delivery.

25. Utility abbr. : ELECtricity.

29. Chihuahua cheers : OLES.   Not a dog this time, but a state in the United States of Mexico, or the capital city of that state.

30. Tear to pieces : RIP UP.

32. ISP option : Digital Subscriber Line - technology used to transmit data over phone lines..

35. Service pro : ACER.  Tennis, I assume.

37. Feathery neckwear : BOA.

38. Contentious border happening : INCIDENT.

39. Israeli guns : UZIS.

40. "Maude," "Phyllis" and "Rhoda" : SIT-COMS.

41. "You're on!" : IT'S A BET.   Wagering agreement.

42. Dir. assistance info : PHONE NO.

44. Frozen floater : ICE FLOE.   Berg also fits.

45. "¿__ pasa?" : QUE.  What's happening? in Chihuahua.

46. Beale and Bourbon: Abbr. : STreetS.  Bourbon is in Nashville, Beale is in Memphis.

48. Canine care gp.? : American Dental Association, which apparently is not going to the dogs.

50. Tax time VIPs : CPAS.  Certified Public Accountants.

51. Thing to run : ERRAND.  Places to go, things to do, people to see.

54. For this purpose : AD HOC, as a committee.

57. Pacific Rim continent : ASIA.  Large, with lots of people.

58. Avis modifier : RARA.   Rare bird.

59. Hip-hop's __ Yang Twins : YING.   Of whom I know nothing.

63. King of Spain : REY.

64. Non-Rx : Over The Counter.

65. Neat ending? : -NIK.  Referring to someone overly fussy about keeping things in order.  Well, I'm not fond of this type of affix clue, so we end on my nit-NIK.

We have 22 each of 3 and 4 letter fill, giving the puzzle a Monday-level average word length.  But that's the kind of trade off you face with so much themeage. Nothing ever comes for free.  Overall, a nicely done puzzle.

Cool regards!


OwenKL said...

Mysterious MABEL would be a spy.
So they gave her a TEST at the FBI.
But it left her BLUE,
It was past her IQ,
So she spied on philanderers as a P.I.

Ditzy IDA just near had a fit!
She couldn't remember how far she could spit!
But she hastes to explain,
"I just WASHED my BRAIN,
And now I can't do a thing with it!

Are the primpings that make a cover girl.
That's what goes on
A barber's CUT and DRIED, so give it a whirl!

fermatprime said...


Thanks, Bruce and Jazz!

Nice theme.

Had berg before FLOE.

Nice work, Owen!


Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

Stayed up way too late waiting for election results, and the resulting exhaustion probably colored my solving experience today. Didn't know ESTES or MABLE, had CUBE before FLOE, and just found the clues in general extra annoying today. Again, blame my foggy brain. Ended with an error with PST instead of PDT. I should have realized that RFS wasn't right, but see the preceding comment.

Lemonade714 said...

Another CSO for Bill G, and I would guess the clue 46 down refers to Bourbon Street in New Orleans even though there is also wonderful music in Nashville. I amsure we will hear from our Louisiana connections.

The theme was fun and Bruce is becoming a very regular contributor. I did not know WILL ESTES but I did know MABEL NORMAND. Part of my age group I guess.

Happy Wednesday.

Hahtoolah said...

Good Morning, JazzBumpa and friends. This puzzle started off with a nice unifier mislead. I certainly though the Permanent referred to a location and not a Permanent Wave. Still, once the unifier revealed itself, I laughed.

I also thought of Miracle Mop instead of Miracle Glo. Probably because I was still thinking of the movie Joy, which is about Joy Mangano, the creator of the Miracle Mop.

I am not familiar with the Bourbon Street of Nashville, but I am been on New Orleans Bourbon Street on more than a few occasions.

Hand up for Bra before TOP, and Berg before FLOE.

Shout out to Bill G for his Cornell University in ITHACA.

Mabel NORMAND had an interesting life. She died young, at age 37.

QOD: I have been changed watching films or reading books or hearing music, and that helps you to live your life. ~ Juliette Binoche (b. Mar. 9, 1964)

unclefred said...

Particularly challenging, for a Wednesday, to me. Had several cheats in order to fill. With more integrity, I'd call it a DNF, but, hell, I'll take it. Had ICEBERG first, spelled ERRAND as ERREND, which fouled up the SE for a while. Overall, good CW though, thanx, Bruce! And great write-up, thanx, JzB!

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

It can't be good when the puzzle kicks off with a 4-letter word. Remembered UNAGI from previous cw's. Should have known ESTES -- I've seen enough episodes of Blue Bloods, but always on DVR, and always FF through the credits.

We have RFD in our town. Each house has a mailbox out at the road.

Is it just me, or do chords in a "flat" key really sound better than those in "sharp" keys? My personal favorite was always E Flat Major -- 3 flats. I remember most popular sheet music being in that key back in the day.

thehondohurricane said...

I too agree this was a challenge. Began to get some fills in the middle section and then into the South. Finally worked up to the North and it was looking good. The NE was the last. Finally saw BRAINWASH & guessed 1A must be IMAC.

UNAGI, in the NW, was a "I hope it's right" fill.

Lots of fun cluing from Bruce. 48D, 62A, & 60A were my favorites.

But in the end, a FIW. I had confidently entered GLO for 20A. I had no idea who Sarkozy was, who was before him or after him, so Chilac had too be correct.

Supposed to be in the 70's today, so yard clean up must go on. My aches and pains keep telling me I'm too darn old to be doing it, but my pride keeps pushing me. One thing that is coming out of this is how out of condition I've become, so by the end of the week I will be a member at a local gym and all fees will be nil courtesy of the Silver Sneakers program.

Happy hump day to all.

inanehiker said...

Little more crunchy today as I had EXAM before TEST, ICE CUBE before ICE FLOE, BRA before TOP etc. Clever theme.
Hondo, hope you enjoy the Silver Sneakers classes - we have them at our local Y and people seem to enjoy the exercise and have a lot of fun together as well.

Thanks, JzB and Bruce!

Hungry Mother said...

BODYFAT and BADSTEER were my downfalls today. Too dense to question DADEL as a movie star's first name. Oh well, there's always tomorrow.

Madame Defarge said...

Good Morning!

The cardinals were singing away this morning. That must be a good sign.

I enjoyed this puzzle. Thanks Bruce. It was a little testy for me, but it had some repeats from the last few days. It might help that I did Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday this morning. My favorite was Canine care: ADA. I fell for that one! Thanks for the tour JzB.

Enjoy the day!

Argyle said...

I wouldn't say it was a good sign but a bee or wasp decide to wake up, then crawl in bed with me and sting me behind the ear. Ingrate!

Spitzboov said...

Good morning everyone.

Nice intro, JzB. Lots of s'plainen.

IMAC was educated guess, but MAR and IN B nailed it. Neat theme. Got initial traction in the center and the solve bloomed out from there. UNAGI and MABEL were held 'til the end. Favorite clue was for BUM STEER. Had Bra before TOP. Well done. Bruce.

Beale ST - CSO to avatar (DD-471)

Lucina said...

Hola y Buenos dias!

Thank you, Bruce and Jazz! This proved to be an enjoyable romp although I could not recall Sarkozy's predecessor, CHIRAC and CSNY meant nothing to me so why not NASA?

I enjoyed being reminded of some wonderfully funny SITCOMS, Phyllis, Rhoda and Maude. Ah, the good old days. UNAGI I've learned only through crosswords.

Ditto for ICEBERG/ICEFLOE, SABLE/STOAT and BRA/TOP. No problem with QUE and REY.

Another CSO to BillG, two actually at PDT. That one is for our CA contingent, another Nevada neighbor.

Have a wonderful Wednesday, everyone!

Northwest Runner said...

We see eel as an answer frequently. I thought it was refreshing to see it as a clue. Anybody else see "Rhoda", "Phyllis", and "Maude" and think "Spinoffs" before seeing the length of the answer?

Abejo said...

Good morning, folks. Thank you, Bruce Haight, for a fine puzzle. Thank you, Jazzbumpa, for a fine review.

Hahtoolah, It's GRO not GLO. I do read the blog entries. Have a nice day.

Got through this puzzle easier than most Wednesdays.

I had MAN IN black before I fixed it to MEN IN black.

CAGY was clever.

Have not seen UZIS in a while.

I have not used Dir Assistance in years. Many people are getting rid of their land lines now. I still have mine.

Have to run. See you tomorrow.


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Husker Gary said...

-My HAIR “SALON” regimen? “Make my hair shorter.”
-OFF COLOR and FREE STYLE RAP adjacent? Hmmm…
-My friend and I had my West Omaha white kids interact with his East Omaha black kids and one of the first questions my girls got asked was, “How do you girls get your hair so straight?”
-We agreed to spend some good money for an upscale mattress and after shopping and waiting a few days, we went back to write it up and there had been a $500 price cut!
-I’ll bet Jazz has played this ”Your ain’t been BLUE” standard
-I started playing my fav Southern Cross when I saw CSNY
-Miracle GRO and my green-thumbed wife make things pretty around here
-Cluing the ESTES company that makes these would not get pass Rich’s scrutiny
-Ray Kroc chose IDAHO potato grower Ray Simplot to supply spuds for his fries
-The ORNE during D-Day operations
-Patton could see the growing menace of the USSR and wanted to take them out too in 1945
-My favorite NASA idiom for a failure is “NO JOY”
-This was called an INCIDENT
-Robins are becoming a less RARA AVIS this time of year

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

Hand up for ice berg, spinoff, and exam before perps made the corrections. I couldn't think of Mabel to save my soul but being an avid Blue Bloods fan, Will Estes filled itself. Another big CSO to Bill G. BTW, Bill G., the first female president of Cornell just passed away at 52; I don't know the COD.

Thanks, Bruce, for a fun solve and thanks, JzB, for the humorous and informative expo.

To those who have seen Joy, would you recommend it? I read one review that was highly critical of Robert De Niro's character. Also, for reasons I can't really pinpoint, I'm becoming less and less enthusiastic about Jennifer Lawrence.

Have a great day.

CanadianEh! said...

Fun trip to the SALON today. Thanks Bruce and JazzB.

Hand up for ICEberg (Tin will have a DNF today!), Exam, Bra. I wanted Fire ANT after our recent discussions.

My plants love MiracleGRO.
I was misdirected to the dogs and wanted vets before dentists. Cute.

ITHACA again for Bill G. It is becoming almost as common as Erie!

I'll take a CSO with CANADA DRY. I was thinking about Pablum (originated at Hospital for Sick Kids in Toronto) but it came to market in 1931.

We are mild today and first robins have appeared. Spring is coming!

Anonymous said...

Buenas dias

Yellowrocks said...

Fun puzzle, Bruce. Informative and witty write up, JzzB. I was surprised the theme answers were not in the order they are performed. Too much to ask for a mid week puzzle, I guess.
I had GLO before GRO, but I knew CHIRAC. That gave me GRO which automatically completed NASH, all perps. V-8 can, please. Oh, Cosby, Stills and Nash. The Y threw me off.
I am a Blue Blood fan, too, but needed perps for ESTES.
CAGY for hard to box in was my favorite. An animal hard to box in could also be uncaged.
We had whole flocks of robins returning here early in February, only to be met with a single digit cold snap. I felt sorry for them. Today we are having May weather.
Enjoy this delightful day.

Bruce Haight said...

Thanks JzB- great write up! Those overlapping theme entries caused some glitches, but I hope people had fun with it.

Misty said...

This started out as a Wednesday toughie for me, partly because I too had BAD STEER and BODY FAT in the NE corner. But I just knew DADEL couldn't be right for the Normand actress, so I finally figured it out. Tada! Great to finally get it without a single cheat. Many thanks, Bruce, and you too, JazzB, for the great expo. Had no idea OFF COLOR came from the diamond industry.

My first cookbook had a recipe for BABA AU RUM (or was it spelled Rhum?). Tried it but didn't like it. But hey, it helped me with a crossword puzzle answer fifty years later!

When am I ever going to remember that CANINE can always refer to either dog or tooth.

Lucina, I too loved those funny lady sitcoms.

Have a great mid-week, everybody! I'm getting my taxes done today. Wish me luck.

Spitzboov said...

IM @ 1027 said: I don't know the COD.
I saw colon cancer mentioned.

Anon -T must be prescient with his fire ant solution from last night.

I grew up with RFD, too. Mailman often bought my Mom's eggs.

I think Cornell is the only Ivy League Land Grant school.

Nice of Bruce to check in.

CrossEyedDave said...

Wees, fun puzzle, not too hard, just had some "dumb" moments.

WYRS (What YellowRocks said), except I was thinking
"Chris Rock was in a TV show called CSiNY?= Nash??
(Another Blog reading "Doh" V8 moment...)


Interesting about the b/# scales being pleasant or not to the ear,
I never really thought about it. Now I have an excuse to practice
my scales!

Trivia bit: Did you know that every windchime you have ever heard
is only the black (b/#) keys on a piano?


Rich doesn't like Estes clued as model rocket maker?
Why? Seems perfectly legit to me!

Also, another incident without borders was the excellent
movie The Bedford Incident. I did not know until much later from watching a TV special
that the movie was closer to real life than any of us knew, & that a Russian sub trapped & surrounded in the Gulf during the Cuban Missile Crisis was going to fire
its nuclear missiles rather than surrender. It took a consensus of three officers
to fire, two wanted to launch, & one refused.

Sign seen at a local Salon...

Bill G. said...

Good morning!

A pleasant, well-executed puzzle and theme. Thanks Bruce and JzB.

Ithaca again! I guess it's because it has three vowels. I'm not familiar with many other college towns but I'm guessing Ithaca is in the middle of college-town quality rankings. Chapel Hill? Charlottesville? It's also the home of Ithaca College. There was some small amount of friction between Ithaca college students and the townies vs. the Cornell students. I would guess that's typical. Going to the football games on a chilly fall day was a lot of fun though Cornell could never compete with the big boys (no athletic scholarships). However, they did well in ice hockey, wrestling, crew, etc. Lake Cayuga, one of the Finger Lakes, was a pretty backdrop though there was a nice lake on campus too (Beebe Lake), good for skating in the winter. The architects would try to dye it green for St. Patrick's Day. I could really have enjoyed the environment and the ambiance more if I hadn't been stressed out with trying to keep my head above water in some of harder courses.

I came across The Imitation Game on cable and am about one-third into it. Very good so far. I always enjoy that era. I would love to see an explanation of the Enigma Machine.

Husker Gary said...

Musings 2
-Irish, we liked Joy and the woman who actually made the mop had to start over so many times it was sometimes discouraging to watch. Jennifer Lawrence was fine as the lead but Di Nero’s character was a despicable father.
-The real life JOY attended the Oscars this year
-Dave, Maybe I was wrong about Rich but I thought he might take ESTES Rockets to be too obscure. BTW, I had no idea about the gentleman clued in the puzzle.
-Also, great info on the Bedford INCIDENT and its real-life precedent. That movie just made my must-see list.
-Bill, my lovely non-scientific minded but “full of common sense” wife really enjoyed The Imitation Game
-Happy Days may have had the most SITCOM spinoffs.
-Back so subbing for a Tech class where I have done NOTHING today!! Should I refuse the money? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

Nice Cuppa said...

Much easier to solve than the anatomy of that once rara avis on Miracle-Gro:

The double comb-over!

[I was tempted to provide a link to a modern sighting, but that might be considered political].

Jayce said...

It took the reveal to figure out what the theme was. I liked it after it was revealed. I knew IMAC immediately, as the clue was very specific. Our son has one in his home office; it's really funny looking, what with its huge screen and little bitty "body" and small keyboard. At least it seems small next to that huge screen.
Best wishes to you all.

Lucina said...

The Imitation Game was a wonderful movie and I'm glad you are now enjoying it.

That link is hilarious!

My tax refund, such as it is, arrived today.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Funny, in't it, how some words crop up in neighboring pzls? RED ANTS was in Sunday's LA Times crossword, and I've seen ELIA and ITHACA in other recent grids. GLO was also seen recently, although it turned out here to be a wrong predecessor to GRO.

Today I took my own advice* and looked for the theme before I got too far into the pzl. And you know what? It worked! It took a lot of perps to crack HAIR SALON, but once I had it, it really helped me with about half of the six themed answers.
In other places, this was a perp-heavy solve for me. When a good many clues have several possible answers, there's no way other than perps to be sure of a correct reply.

* SEE my post of 3/8/2016 @2:30 pm

PK said...

Hi Y'all! Great puzzle, Bruce! Great pun-ny expo, JzB!

I stared into my IMAC Retina 5K display and typed in "acer". Duh! Jayce, I thought IMAC looked funny when I got it home too. But I wanted a big display for failing eyesight from so many years of starring at a computer screen writing.

All the theme entries were filled when I came to the reveal. Read the clue, then the theme ends which helped me solve the reveal. Usually doesn't happen that way. Salon activities were more familiar than the clue.

Lots of little girls were named MABEL in the late 1800's era, including my grandma and an aunt. Never heard of Normand. Didn't know CHIRAC or WILL ESTES.

52 pickup wasn't a Ford or Chev. They fit but "blushed". Perps gave me DECK but I didn't understand it until JzB explained it. Duh #2.

You mean CSNY wasn't a transportation company in the Big Apple? I was so sure it was "Commuter System New York". NASH perped in and I had to wait for JzB again. Duh #3. I was having babies when CSNY was popular. I didn't listen to much music. Just sang lullabies.

CrossEyedDave said...

HG, every kid growing up in my generation wanted an Estes rocket
just as much as everyone in the previous generation wanted
a Red Ryder BB gun.

For Bill G, The Enigma Machine Explained!

Michael said...

Well, Lucina, my California refund also came today. Rich again! .... or until I pay bills.

For Bill G. on the Enigma and other code machines. Every language has a certain frequency that each letter has overall (ETAOINSHRDLU.... in English for example), so a machine, the Enigma in this case, covers up that frequency by scrambling the text of messages, so that they cannot be read except by the recipient.

Lemonade714 said...

BH thank you for reading and stopping by; CED thanks for the Enigma explained link.

Lucina, know love for MTM?

I saw an episode of Criminal Minds from 2009 where Cybill Shepherd was the mother of the killer. She was so good in Moonlighting, I have missed her.

Bill G. said...

Thanks for the information about the Enigma machine. Very interesting. It's always rewarding for me to see something with such a clever mechanical design to solve a complicated problem rather than the present day digital approach to everything.

Here're two fifty-dollar words I came across connected in a news article today; heteropaternal-superfecundation. You don't hear that much. I wonder why?

Lucina said...

Yes! Absolutely, but I just mentioned the ones in the clue. For me and maybe all of us who enjoyed those times, it was the Golden Age of television and Norman Lear was the King!

SwampCat said...

Bill G., we have an Enigma machine in the World War II museum in New Orleans. Come see it!

Loved this crunchy, clever puzzle! Lots of Wite-Out, but I won in the end. Thanks for 'splainin' it, JazzB.

Owen, sooo funny.

Anonymous T said...

Hi all!

I'm not going to Arggg!!!!! today.... I expect a bad square on Wed and I got one - I had ROY (started w/ ROI, but CAGY filled) instead of REY and 67a was ESP. One day I'll learn my rivers.

Thanks Bruce you locks onto a fun puzzle. JzB as always, entertaining write-up. Thanks.

Glad we just had BABAS last week otherwise...

WOs: Miracle EAR b/f GRO; UNAmI @1st; bra/TOP, Shred b/f RIP UP - the former gave me discount at 49a b/f PRICE CUT got fixed thanks to UZIS. The middle is a bit inky. That's why I held up on ICE-cube until a perp or two - DECK didn't help me one bit :-)


Likeds: c/a's for ARF, CAGY, SIP ON, and ERRAND. Also AUNT & ANT in same pzl. Of course, loved CSOs to both C, Eh? and Bill G.

Favs: BRAIN WASH & BUM STEER. But I won't get into politics :-)

Been to Beale once and Bourbon many times, but when I got STS I was thinking "OK, French States." Doh!

HG & CED: I had an ESTES Shuttle, another ESTES with a camera in it, and one where I could scare the crap out of bugs in the nose-cone. I also had many of the little ones we'd put a B or C engine into (to see what it would do) and never see again.

BTW Spitz, I used BTW too last night... Am a I dirty RAT that gets puzzles early to spoil? - NOT I. Puzzle gets here at 5a (and I don't get to it until later).

Cheers, -T

Picard said...

I know all about Estes model rockets. Never heard of Blue Bloods or Will Estes.