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Jul 13, 2020

Monday July 13, 2020 Paul Coulter

Theme: SET LIST (35A: Itemized concert songs in playing order ... and what all the words in answers to starred clues comprise) - Both parts of each theme entry can precede SET.
17. *Rock group since the '80s with the worldwide hit "Creep": RADIOHEAD. Radio set. Head set.
25. *0-0, in tennis: LOVE ALL. Love set. All set.

28. *Improving trend: UPSWING. Upset. Swing set.

42. *The two-engine F-15 Eagle, e.g.: TWIN JET. Twin set. Jet set.

44. *Greeting card for an ailing friend: GET WELL. Get set. Well-set.

56. *Lack of subtlety: HEAVY HAND. Heavyset. Hand set.

Boomer here. 

Good Morning or afternoon all as whatever the case may be. Years ago, I bought cases of bulk baseball cards (no gum) from Topps and I would collate them into complete SETS.  Now I spend most of my time in our basement watching the TV SET.  Okay, ready, SET, GO


1. Come or go, e.g.: VERB. I remember my second grade phonics.

5. Port in Yemen: ADEN.

9. Cheese with holes: SWISS.  Best used on a Reuben sandwich.

14. Side squared, for a square: AREA.

15. Jackson 5 brother: TITO.  "I'll be There" - Album way back.

16. Foolish one: NINNY.

19. Like Keebler's animated bakers: ELFIN.

20. 2020 amt. so far, on paychecks: YTD.  Sadly, also used to tally coronavirus cases by state.

21. Exams: TESTS.  C.C. and I seem virus free, knock on wood. The tests are not widely available in Minnesota at this time, though our positives are piling up.  I have a VA appointment this month but I think they just take my temperature.

22. Upper crust: ELITE.  Okay, but for me it's just a piece of bread.

23. Turns loose: FREES.  I have heard that many convicts are being released as a result of the virus. 

24. "East of Eden" son named for Moses' older brother: ARON.  Not to be confused with "All Rise" Aaron Judge who I have seen recently in a fast food commercial. Told you I watch too much TV.

31. Fed. power dept.: ENER.  Our electric power provider is Xcel Energy. Very dependable.  I think we have had only one power outage in the last ten years, and that was only a couple of hours.

32. Most draftable: ONE A.  We no longer have a draft, but maybe we still have the designation.  I was ONE A in 1968 and away I went.

33. Only Canadian MLB city: TOR.  Montreal Expos moved to Washington eh.

34. Author Beattie: ANN.

38. Here, in France: ICI.

39. Stew holder: POT.  I think I remember something else that might be called POT.

40. Had too much, briefly: OD'ED.

41. Elliptical: OVAL.  I wonder if golf might be more fun if they adopted OVALs on the green.

47. Bird on Canada's dollar coin: LOON.  Our Minnesota "LOONS" is a lacrosse program for kids.  Of course, when my family had a cabin on North Star Lake, the loons were sure to wake us up every morning with their funny call.

48. Poet Elinor or author Philip: WYLIE.

49. Longtime SeaWorld attraction: SHAMU.  A killer Whale in the late sixties and early seventies.

51. Rip to pieces: SHRED.  How I dispose of my scorecard after every round.

52. Enjoy Aspen: SKI.  We have a few ski slopes here in MN, Nothing like Colorado.

55. Peter, pumpkinwise: EATER.  Had a wife but couldn't keep her.

58. Online finance firm: E-LOAN.

59. One-named Deco artist: ERTE.

60. Adored singer, say: IDOL.  Billie's name was William Broad.  No wonder he changed it.

61. Harbor towns: PORTS.  Any PORT in a storm.

62. Caught in the act: SEEN.

63. Wet with morning moisture: DEWY.  Not to be confused with Thomas E.Dewey who ran for president of the United States in 1944 and 1948.  FDR was very popular in 1944, However Harry Truman sneaked out a close victory in 1948.  I was one year old and could not vote, however I remember the newspaper photo of Harry holding up a paper with the headline "Dewey Defeats Truman" 


1. Fluctuate: VARY.

2. The "E" in Q.E.D.: ERAT.

3. Foxx of "Sanford and Son": REDD.  REDD Foxx's real name was John Sanford, hence he chose the title "Sanford and Son" for his TV show on which he played Fred Sanford.

4. Ling of "The Crow": BAI.

5. Like an obedient dog on a walk: AT HEEL.

6. Semi fuel: DIESEL.  I think there are other vehicles on the road that run on DIESEL.  I notice it is now sold at most gasoline stations in town.

7. French states: ETATS.  Spell it backwards and it is one U.S. State.

8. Agreeing gestures: NODS.  I think Congress members have to say YEA.

9. Shows contempt for: SNEERS AT.

10. "Weeping" tree: WILLOW.  They are a bit in the way.  I am glad we do not have one in our yard.

11. It's split in Captain Kirk's "to boldly go": INFINITIVE.

12. Agitated state: SNIT.

13. "Auld Lang __": SYNE.  "Should auld acquaintance be forgot and never brought to mind".

18. Other, to Ortiz: OTRA.

23. Votin' yes on: FER.  The opposite of "Agin".

24. Copies: APES.  Harry was a hairy one.

25. Jumped: LEAPT.

26. Currently airing: ON NOW.  The golf tournament in Dublin Ohio was ON over the weekend.

27. Device providing fresh air: VENTILATOR.  Providing life hopefully to serious Covid-19 victims.

28. Prefix with form or brow: UNI.  I notice that many major league UNIs now include a face covering.

29. Lite to the max: NO-CAL.  I have to use fake sugar and diet pop because of diabetes, but I have not gained back the weight I lost two weeks ago when I thought playing a par 72 - 18 hole course was a good idea in 92 degree weather.

30. Cook over coals: GRILL.  Great outdoor activity.

32. "__ King Cole": OLD.  King Cole hollered "Who you callin' OLD" at me.

35. Temporary stays: SOJOURNS.

36. Barbara of "I Dream of Jeannie": EDEN.  I used to like the show, but I guess I outgrew it.

37. Hanoi holiday: TET.

41. Be indebted to: OWE.  I have to say I OWE my oncologist a lot more than the VA charges me for their care.

43. Vegetarian credo: NO MEAT.  Fridays during Lent.

44. Whirl on the dance floor: GYRATE.

45. High dice roll: ELEVEN.  Roll it on the "Come out" roll and your Pass Line bet wins one to one.

46. Neat: TIDY.

48. Word of location: WHERE.

49. Ooze: SEEP.

50. Angel's topper: HALO.  A very famous manufacturer of recessed lighting fixtures.

51. Cows and sows: SHES.

52. Marquis de __: SADE.

53. Don't have to ask: KNOW.  I know nothing, I always have to ask.

54. In a shiftless way: IDLY.

57. Ducked out of sight: HID.  Frequently my golf balls are "HID" in the woods.



OwenKL said...

TITO was part of the ELFIN ELITE.
Mistaken for a NINNY because he was sweet.
But his LOVE wasn't cold
For a POT of gold.
If you tried to steal his, he'd call you a *bleep*!

When the grass is DEWY, before the fairies sleep,
While they have their POTS from which the dew-drops SEEP,
You might have SEEN them SHRED
Flying round the garden bed,
But they do it silently, so you'll never hear a peep!

Hungry Mother said...

Nice smooth Monday solve. No write-overs or sticky points.

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Oh no. DNF on a Monday. Looked long and hard at TYLIE, but decided it must be OK, because THERE was solid. Bzzzzt. Also noticed the mini-Elvis theme with ARON and GYRATE. Thanx, Paul and Boomer.

Paul Coulter said...

Thanks, Boomer. Good to see your limericks, Owen.

Apologies to solvers if VENTILATOR is upsetting. Lead times can be very long. I wrote this grid about a year ago. It made the rounds, then Rich finally took it.

It's been so long since my four year old granddaughter Addie has been to my house, she asked me on a videochat yesterday if I have a bed. So I walked with my laptop into the bedroom and showed her. Then we did a tour of the whole house. Addie really liked the LR, which is full of plants.

Bob Lee said...

Nice easy Monday but oops...since I didn't know the name, I had TYLIE, THERE vs. WYLIE, WHERE

Spitzboov said...

Good morning everyone.

GET WELL Abejo. We're all rooting for you.

Workaday puzzle today. Mostly easy but a bit crunchy in a few spots. WHERE or 'there'?. Thought WYLIE sounded more probable, and guessed right. No searches or strikethroughs.
Shred - German has a word for 'grist': Schrot. I wonder if it is a cognate. The surname Schroeder comes from that.
DIESEL - Could it be clued as the only fuel named for a person? Rudy Diesel invented the Diesel engine in the 1890's.

Yellowrocks said...

I liked that SET applied to both parts of the theme answers. My first thought was PLAY LIST, but it was too long. THERE or WHERE? Wylie seemed better than Tylie. Easy, but interesting because the puzzle did require some thought.
Paul cute story about Addie. My kindergarten students were astounded to find me out and about in the community. At MacDonald's, they exclaimed, "You eat hamburgers?!!" At the supermarket they would run to the head of an aisle to peep at me and then giggle and run off, only to peep at me in the next aisle.

Abejo said...

Good morning, folks. Thank you, Paul Coulter, for a fine puzzle. Thank you, Boomer, for a fine review.

Got up at 1:00 AM and worked the puzzle. It was pretty easy, being a Monday. I did have an error since did not get the TADA from cruciverb. Laid back down and got up at 3:15. Took another look and found I had put in a Y instead of a B for verb. That was easy. Laid back down. Did get a little sleep but not enough.

RADIOHEAD was unknown, perps.

I remember ARON from East of Eden, the book. I think I saw the move later. Quite a book.

WYLIE was unknown. Perps.

GRILL. I love grilling out, but have only done it once this year. I have no appetite. I am down to 128 lbs. Last summer I weighed 170.

Have to get going. My daily medical stuff starts at 10:00. See you tomorrow.

Thanks, Spitz, for the good wishes.


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CrossEyedDave said...

Had to look up
(After I FIR'd)
Philip Wylie
(When worlds collide)

The only Wylie I knew
Was a cartoonist that got my post
Deleted when I quoted him trying
To explain why he is banned 8n half the country...

Madame Defarge said...

Good Morning.

Thanks Paul for a perfect start to my week. I was lucky on the first pass with the long fills, so that put me in a good position for the rest of the puzzle. It was fun to see ELFIN after ELVISH yesterday. Although, I quickly threw in elves.

Thanks for the tour, Boomer. I didn't see the full theme until you broke it down for me.

Abeyo, I'm so sorry to hear about your sleep pattern. Sleep is so crucial. Good luck today. I hope you sleep better tonight and feel better tomorrow. :)

It's a sunny and in the mid to high seventies today. I'll take it. Have a sunny day everyone. Stay cautious and well.

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

This had some crunch for a Monday with Wylie, Bai and Sojourns, but the perps were fair and square, so no complaints. I went astray at Elves/Elfin and Nat/Old. I liked the Aden/Eden, Erat/Erte, Idly/Tidy duos and the crossing of Idol and Idly. Also liked the Shamu Shred Ski line. Two CSOs to CEh at Tor and Loon.

Thanks, Paul, for a fun start to the week and for stopping by and thanks, Boomer, for the wit and much-needed humor.

Good luck, Abejo, hope you feel better.

Have a great day.

Husker Gary said...

-The most challenging Monday puzzle I’ve ever encountered. 6/12 themers – wow!
-Lots of cheap water and ENER in our town
-Any word PORT in a storm is a necessary strategy for constructors
-The world might be very different if FDR had stuck with Henry Wallace and not changed to Truman
-9:20 tee time. Later!

Ray - O - Sunshine said...

Embarassed to say I was a real LOON and FIW on a Monday!. Had there instead of WHERE; the perp was an inknown proper name. What a NINNY.

Hands up for elves until the obvious perp SYNE. Elven to ELVIN

Many additional Inkovers. Ned/ANN (it said author not actor, pay attenron!!), Nat/OLD.

Always thought it was unabrow UNIBROW

Need to add the film "East of Eden" to my "bucket list"

OTRA has no femine modifier so shouldn't it default to Otro Lucina?

Lets take the new wheels for...ASPEN

_____ dare? DEWY

French is not an _____ language to learn...ICI.

If you dont pay now you ______ even more!. WILLOW.

Hang in there Abejo

oc4beach said...

Just enough of a challenge to be a FIW. Where vs. There and Wylie vs. Tylie were the killers. De lo contrario it was an enjoyable puzzle from Paul. Boomer 'splained things nicely so that I could understand the theme, which I didn't get.

Need I say more? No, except be safe everyone and wear your masks.

Malodorous Manatee said...

This had some crunch for me, also. It took about half again as long to solve as I spend on most Monday puzzles. I did not know WYLIE and, because I originally had THERE instead of WHERE, it required a bit of sorting out.

Wilbur Charles said...

The most notably ARON was Elvis middle name. I'll bet someone's already posted this. Yep, D-O right out of the gate.

I thought of posting the fuel sign at Murphy's Saturday: DIESEL $1.95/Reg $1.96. Rare sighting.

I linked in UNIBROW. I LIU. Ok, I get it. Something I would never notice.

I agree not a sprint. I'd heard the name WYLIE.


Wheels42 said...

FIR in 4:55. What an impressive theme. I wonder what Paul thought of the final fill. Too much foreign language and too many abbreviations for my taste. I think a rewrite could've made this puzzle sparkle. But congrats on such a stellar theme, Paul.

Shankers said...

Speedy Monday solve despite not knowing Bai or Wylie which sounded more logical than Tylie. Barbara Eden, a total heartthrob. Finally cooling off in Phoenix. Down to 108° or so. Time to bring out the woolies.

SwampCat said...

Thank goodness someone finally called attention to that split infinitive! Thanks Paul! It’s been driving me crazy for 50 years. Ok. Most of those years I never thought of it. But StarTrek reruns have been my quarantine salvation, so I’m reminded how much more emphatic it would be to say it correctly, To go BOLDLY!

End of rant.

Monday easy. Puzzle for me. I even got Wylie. Loved 55a, Peter, pumpkinwise.

Thanks for the tour, Boomer.

Owen, I loved the Elves and Fairies. A, A!!

Paul Coulter said...

WYLIE, which gave many solvers trouble, was originally clued as Aviator Post. He died in a plane crash with Will Rogers, and is much more familiar to most. Then again, editors don't like to run the same clue over and over.

Sandyanon said...

Interesting how areas of knowledge differ, isn't it? Elinor Wylie wrote my favorite poem, and many others worth reading, so 48 across was a gimme for me. Of course she died over 90 years ago so not very current. But then, Shakespeare died more than 400 years ago....

Yellowrocks said...

Grammar Girl says,"You shouldn't split infinitives. Wrong! Nearly all grammarians want to boldly tell you it's OK to split infinitives. An infinitive is a verb form that is usually made up of the word “to” followed by a verb. An example is "to tell." In a split infinitive, another word separates the two parts of the verb. "To boldly tell" is a split infinitive because 'boldly' separates 'to' from 'tell.' "

We learned only one set of grammar rules when we went to school, usually formal language rules . Informal language is not incorrect. Language needs to suit the occasion. If you use the same language for normal discourse as you do for a scholarly paper you come off as stuffy. If you wear an evening gown to a backyard barbecue you seem pretentious and overdressed.
Motivational Grammar says, “Informal language is not a devolved version of formal language. It has rules that formal language doesn’t (e.g., choosing whether to use a contraction), and is in general more natural and readable than formal language. Informal language is, as Geoff Pullum puts it, normal language. This means that while formal language can be good and at times more appropriate than informal, it’s not always right, and it shouldn’t be treated as the ideal form of language."
We have over-learned the rules and sometimes apply them to inappropriate situations.

Sandyanon said...

But Paul, isn't his name WILEY Post?

Wilbur Charles said...

I almost forgot the CSO to Picard. And. Splitting an INFINITIVE can indeed be as emphatic as Irregardless can be.

Paul, I knew I'd heard WYLIE(Post). I was reminded of my age while mowing this morning. Let's LIU Wylie was a household name

Sandy, knowing your a poetry aficionado…. I'm going to read some E. WYLIE


Misty said...

I loved getting a Monday Paul Coulter puzzle, and took a chance on WYLIE and it worked! Woohoo! Many thanks, Paul, and hope Addie can visit your house before too long. Neat commentary, as always, Boomer.

Really cool to get those long down answers, INFINITIVE and VENTILATOR. Made this puzzle a bit challenging but lots of fun. I instantly put in NED for Beattie but 25 down had to be LEAPT so that just wouldn't work. Never heard of ANN Beattie or BAI Ling, but perps came to my rescue. Nice to see Barbara EDEN and ERTE. And maybe Paul is a vegetarian, given that we got both NO CAL and NO MEAT in the puzzle.

Sweet poem, Owen.

Take good care of yourself, Abejo--you're in our thoughts everyday.

Have a good week coming up, everybody.

Malodorous Manatee said...

I just now realized that, in my earlier post, I missed a perfect opportunity riff on the "Where Wolf There Wolf" bit that Marty Feldman, Terrri Garr and Gene Wilder did for Mel Brooks. I shall strive to be more attentive in the future.

Ray - O - Sunshine said...

Irish M. Sitting at Walgreen's waiting for my second SHINGRIX shot thinking of you. Besides the unprovoked wild watemelon attack did your ocular zoster clear up?

Did you eventually get the shots?

Something all Cornerites should consider.

Madame Defarge said...

Re: YR's post. . . .

You are quite right about language. Splitting Spock's infinitive puts the emphasis on "boldly" as it is out of standard order. It's a stylistic decision. My students used to complain about such errors in literature. My response was knowing the rules in the first place allows one to break them for a purpose. We would probably never notice "to go boldly. . . ." Moi, especially. I never watched Star Trek, but I know that phrase. Now, Faulkner is another story. A long story. (Fragment--on purpose!) ;-)

becky said...


Crosseyed Dave -- I was glued for way too long to your gardening hacks. One led to another and were absolutely amazing to see! I don't think I will attempt to grow a walnut tree from a seed, though.


Paul Coulter said...

Sandyanon - you're right, after looking it up, I see that Mr. Post's name is indeed spelled Wiley. So that's why Rich changed my clue. Now, I've learned something from today's puzzle, too!

Anonymous T said...

Where Wolf There Wolf.

Back to work. -T

Lucina said...


OTRA is fine in context, Ray-O. Since it doesn't modify anything, it can be OTRA, otra vez since it crosses LOVEALL.

Thank you, Boomer, for parsing the theme which I didn't do.

I see that I'm in good company with TYLIE which I didn't even stop to analyze and am not familiar with either Elinor or Philip WYLIE. Had I mused over it, WYLIE would have made more sense.

And I learned something about SOJOURN which I thought was the journey but turns out to be the stay.

POT followed by ODE'D gave me pause.

Abejo, as others have said, we are thinking of you and praying for you.

I hope you are all enjoying your day! WARM good wishes from sunny Arizona.

Malodorous Manatee said...

Back to now work.

Spitzboov said...

To properly use the split infinitive:

As long as the adverb is next to the verb, it is OK.
Writers should not split infinitives with phrases or clauses.

Funny they would name an infinitiver after a city in Croatia.

desper-otto said...

Along the theme of Tylie/Wylie/Wiley/Wilie [sic] -- The Haden Triplets released an album this year that contains Memories of Will Rogers with lyrics written by their grandfather. Ironically, they misname him Willy Post and go on to say, "shall never be forgotten as long as time shall run." You can distinctly hear "Willy" at about 50 seconds in.

Yellowrocks said...

That Reuben sandwich looks delicious, Boomer.
Let's take an informal poll.

David likes his Reuben constructed between two pieces of rye bread and grilled on both sides. I think this is the most traditional way.

Alan and I like ours built on a piece(s) of rye toast piled with the fillings and with no top. Then we like it run under the broiler to melt the cheese.

Do you choose open or closed?
I make mine to order. Whatever floats your boat.

Yellowrocks said...

Gary, I expect you to say, "Hold the sauerkraut."

LEO III said...

Well, I fell into the same traps others have mentioned, plus I invented one for myself: I wanted ONHEEL (cats refuse to heel, unless they are heading to the kitchen for the next meal), which messed up both ADEN and TITO. While I have a fairly grasp of geography, the Middle East is possibly my weakest part of the world, even with all of the conflict there. Sometimes I just don’t know where what Is. Also, I probably knew but never remembered the names of all five Jacksons.

As usual, I forgot to look for the theme before coming here. One of these days....

Thanks Paul and Boomer!

Hang in there Abejo!

Malodorous Manatee said...

I keep trying to come up with a creative take on Cavtat or Dubrovnik but I am Hvaring a difficult time.

Now it's time to boldly go back to work.

CanadianEh! said...

Marvellous Monday. Thanks for the fun, Paul and Boomer.
I will join you all on the very long bench for entering There/Tylie.
And it took me a few minutes to see all those SETS (I still don't quite get LOVE SET?! I must LIU)
Another hand up for Elves before ELFIN (and thinking of yesterday's Elvish- hello MadameD).

Thanks for dropping by Paul. Yes, I gave a small gasp (pun intended) at VENTILATOR. But I did realize that the CWs are created a long time ahead of publication. Funny (not in the humourous sense) how we are noticing these things. Just watching old movies and TV programs make me cringe at the lack of social distancing!

ELOAN sounds like something you get from the online finance firm. I am familiar with the Cash Money ads; is there a company called ELOAN? (Now I have two things to LIU.)

Yes Irish Miss, I saw my two CSOs today! The fact that Canada requires a 2 week quarantine for anyone coming into the country may mean that our Blue Jays may not be able to play their MLB games in TOR. (Bets are on Buffalo). But they are currently training all together in a quarantine bubble at the Rogers Centre and adjoining hotel, after leaving Dunedin (or is it EDEN?) Florida.

Speaking of Eden, is it kosher to have it in a clue 24A and as an answer? Potential problem could have been avoided by using the Presley middle name clue.

GYRATE does not match with Whirl in my visual of people on the dance floor. Gyrate is much more frenetic than the graceful whirl IMHO. (Maybe I need another LIU!!!)

YR- I'll take my Reuben closed. . . and with the sauerkraut!

Wishing you all a great day.

Irish Miss said...

Ray - O @ 12:39 ~ Yes, my ocular shingles cleared up, but it took quite a while and a second round of the oral medicine and the steroid eye drops. I see both my ophthalmologist and retina specialist next month, after several canceled appointments due to the lockdown. No, I haven’t gotten the shots; my life has been in emotional turmoil since January and the shingle episode was followed by a sprained toe, and that was followed by the injuries suffered in that wrestling match with the watermelon. I guess you could say I’ve been a little distracted. 🤒😷🤕 Thanks for asking, though!

Anonymous T said...

Hi All!

Hand-up THERE. FIW.

Thanks Paul for the puzzle and dropping-in at The Corner.

Thanks Boomer for kickin' off the after-party. Fun expo!

ESPs: BAI, ANN, Fraunch
Fav: I'll go w/ ELFIN after yesterday's discussion.
//Though, Lucina's POT - OD'ED is pretty funny.

{B+, A}

You must eat Abejo! [SNL]

Want to play another puzzle? My B-Day card from Pop.
//he's obviously not a constructor. Best part I highlighted in yellow.... 1-800-Stupido :-)

YR - by default Kenny & Ziggy's will open face it [right image], I ask for a closed face Reuben.
Your kindergarten story: I'll be out sometimes with DW. Her students: "Dr. C!, I didn't know you went to the movies!"
And these are college kids?

D-O: OU had a mural of Will Rogers's life in the cafeteria AREA. Left-to-right it showed him reading, roping, writing and finally a puff of smoke on a mountain-side. And, if you've never been through OKC's airport (Will Rogers World AirPORT) - you take Amelia Earhart Ln on the way to the TERMINAL!
I didn't know if I should laugh or not. I laughed at both anyway.

Enough nonsense - on to the next meeting.

Cheers, -T

CanadianEh! said...

OK, I LIUed (three times!)
E LOAN is a lending company out of California. Of course, our Canadian banking system would not allow it here; thus my unfamiliarity with it.

A LOVE SET is a tennis set where the loser loses all 6 sets. Learning moment for me. (But I am not sure that I like the tennis clue and the tennis SET as part of the theme. Not consistent.)

GYRATE and whirl both have the idea of rotating around a fixed point, and can be synonyms per Thesaurusplus. But usually more similar when speaking of a rotor; I suspect that on the dance floor, the centre point is not so fixed. LOL!

Jayce said...

I liked this puzzle and had the same trouble with THERE/WHERE that many of you did. Sure enough I put in T, knew something was wrong when the clock didn't stop, and had to hunt it down. Yep WYLIE makes more sense. But then again, you never know how somebody will spell their name, e.g. ARON vs AARON, Emily vs Emilie, Olsen vs Olson vs Oleson, Whitaker vs Whitecar. (Yes, I knew a guy whose surname was Whitecar, which I confess to having pronounced as "white car" until corrected.)

Closed-top Reuben.

What is a Love set?

Poll: "anyway" or "anyways"?

Best wishes to you, Abejo.

Jayce said...

Thank you for looking up what a "love set" is, CanadianEh! Now I don't have to :)

CrossEyedDave said...

Wait a Sec!

I do know another Wylie!

Ray - O - Sunshine said...

Jayce..Alls I know is one is plural.

Avg Joe said...

When getting started on a puzzle I always look for confirmation from the crosses, refusing to enter anything unless it's dead certain. Later on when there's always some letters to work with I rely less on cross confirmation. But I often suffer analysis paralysis when I see more than one possibility...therefore needing the perp. Today I had all but the first letter of "Where" from perps and automatically plugged in a W. "there" didn't even occur to me. So....saved by a failure to consider alternatives. I'll take the victory.

Reubens in our house are closed face and grilled both sides. Dark Rye is mandatory, pumpernickel preferred. Thousand Island or Russian dressing depends on what's in the fridge, but most often it's TI. No sauerkraut is heresy.

Ol' Man Keith said...

So THAT's what a Reuben sandwich looks like!
Thanks for posting it, Boomer.
All my life I have heard of such things, but never took advantage of an opportunity to try one, or even to see one.
I think it's because the name "corned beef," is a turn-off. "Corned"?
Not that it OUGHT to be a negative, but I was a finicky eater as a kid, and some things just stay with you.
Maybe some day...

Abejo ~ Good luck with your "medical stuff"! Wishing you good health. Feel better soon!

A 3-way on the distaff.
The central anagram requires just a little context:
When paparazzi get together to snag a shot of a reclusive celeb, they will sometimes set up a distraction in the routine pathway of a jogging star--maybe a felled tree with a large trunk to prevent the subject's continued run, or a fake "beggar' trying to get alms from the target. The chief photographers will be in position in the rear--to capture the photo when the victim turns back.
This is known as a...

desper-otto said...

Jayce, I vote for anyway -- no S.

Sandyanon said...

A tennis set is won by the player who reaches six games won while at least two games ahead. If s/he wins six but the other player wins none (love=zero in tennis), that's a love set.

Wilbur Charles said...

I take "Willy" was what Will or the kids called Wiley. In my younger days I was (Wild)Willy. I wonder if he was called Bill (y).

C-eh, in Dunedin it's DUN-edin or DU-needin. After Scottish town. Aragon led the Dunedin knights in LOTR. Or he was The Dunedin. I think old French Dunedin were knights.

I don't eat beef but Reubens had Ranch dressing, n'est-ce pas?(not French- I think it's to make the sauerkraut palatable.
Speaking of Gary, I knew that song but couldn't come up with it.

Dance vs GYRATE


LEO III said...

Regarding split infinitives, I had forgotten about them: The Wiki article is an interesting refresher course (I KNOW! --- It’s Wiki!), pointing out the Star Trek quote in the second sentence! My takeaway from the article: If they were good enough for GBS and Raymond Chandler….

From the article: “In large parts of the school system, the construction was opposed with ruthless vigour. A correspondent to the BBC on a programme about English grammar in 1983 remarked:

“One reason why the older generation feel so strongly about English grammar is that we were severely punished if we didn't obey the rules! One split infinitive, one whack; two split infinitives, two whacks; and so on.

“As a result, the debate took on a degree of passion which the bare facts of the matter never warranted. There was frequent skirmishing between the splitters and anti-splitters until the 1960s. George Bernard Shaw wrote letters to newspapers supporting writers who used the split infinitive, and Raymond Chandler complained to the editor of The Atlantic about a proofreader who interfered with Chandler's split infinitives:

“By the way, would you convey my compliments to the purist who reads your proofs and tell him or her that I write in a sort of broken-down patois which is something like the way a Swiss-waiter talks, and that when I split an infinitive, (expletive deleted), I split it so it will remain split, and when I interrupt the velvety smoothness of my more or less literate syntax with a few sudden words of barroom vernacular, this is done with the eyes wide open and the mind relaxed and attentive. The method may not be perfect, but it is all I have.”

Wendybird said...

Fun puzzle with several creative clues. Not the usual Monday snooze. Thank you, Paul, and thank you Boomer for the tour.

Lucina, I also thought SOJOURNER referred to a journey, so I LIU. I read The Sojourner by Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings many years ago and loved it. I just loaded it onto my Kindle to read again since I have LOTS of time to read during this weird time.

Joining the Reuben survey, I want mine closed and toasted in a panini grill, with lots of melty cheese.

Where wolf/There wolf is a favorite bit among many many more. Another is “Taffeta, Darling”.

Ray - O - Sunshine said...

Let's not forget the RACHEL (REUBEN'S sandwich gal pal)

My tuppence on split infinitives is they're OK. Add emphasis. But a dangling participle?...As Churchill stated when accused of ending a sentence with a preposition declared " That is something I cannot up with put!"

Spitzboov said...

I got into Reubens a bit during my middle ages. I stopped ordering when I decided I really didn't like the sauerkraut on them. Without it it's not a Reuben.

Anyways can be used instead of 'anyway', but is considered more informal.
Anyways is often used to signal a transition to a new topic or to resume discussion of a topic after some tangent or interruption: “Anyways, as I was saying, we leave tomorrow at 10am sharp.”
My Dad learned his English in Western Iowa and he said "inoways" a lot.

Anyways, more of a problem than the split infinitive is the festering issue of the squinting modifier and I was wondering how to correctly handle it?

SwampCat said...

LeoIII, @ 4:20, Churchill once wrote in the margin of a galley proof, after a proofreader corrected his ending a sentence with a preposition, “ This is one thing up with which I will not put!”

SwampCat said...

Oops, Ray-O ya beat me to it!

Ray - O - Sunshine said...

SWAMP CAT...I thought your quote was more accurate. I only repeated what I recall of a HS English teacher's remarks but apparently there are scores of variations of what Old Winston exactly said.

Jayce said...

When I write, I use "anyway." My DIL, who is a professional writer, always uses "anyways." Thank you, Spitzboov, for the information about how the two words are used.

I love sauerkraut and I love Reuben sandwiches. I also love a hot pastrami sandwich. So many foods I love. I have sometimes been kidded that I'll eat anything. Reminds me of "Mikey likes it!"

SwampCat said...

Ray-o I haven’t seen the actual galley, have you? We only know what we are told. Let’s call it a draw.

Jayce said...

The boy tosses the ball to his dog.
Only the boy tosses the ball to his dog.
The only boy tosses the ball to his dog.
The boy only tosses the ball to his dog.
The boy tosses only the ball to his dog.
The boy tosses the only ball to his dog.
The boy tosses the ball only to his dog.
The boy tosses the ball to only his dog.
The boy tosses the ball to his only dog.
The boy tosses the ball to his dog only.

Bill G said...

I love a well-made Reuben, Rachel or pastrami sandwich but don't fall into the stylish trap of making it so thick you can't hold it or bite into it without spilling everything.

Years ago my father told me the 'preposition' story from Churchill a little different; something like "This is the kind of grammatical pedantry up with which I will not put." I guess it's been around for a while and changes depending on the quoter's memory cells.

Lucina said...

Definitely ANYWAY for me.

I've rarely had Reuben sandwiches but when I have, I like the bread toasted.

SwampCat said...

Jayce, thank you !!

Wilbur Charles said...

I'm hearing thousand island dressing on that Reuben. Re. Corned beef. I recall at Marble Mountain that Thursday was corned beef night. I couldn't wait even though for the majority it was "The Purple Death"


Lemonade714 said...

Once again Monday brain strikes and I forgot to hit PUBLISH

Such a shame as I enjoy Paul's puzzle and Boomer's write-up. I found it funny that Paul fell in the same trap when we all have criticized the editor only to end up with egg on one's face.

Reuben = Russian Dressing which is the same thing as Thousand Island.

Maybe tomorrow

PK said...

Hi Y'all! I saw Paul Coulter's name and was immediately ALL SET to enjoy the puzzle. It and Boomer's humor SET WELL with me.

Last to fill: the "B" in VERB/BAI. Tried a "T" for tAI which turned red. Come or go wasn't "roam" or "walk" or "ride". When all else was done, I finally gave up & did a red-letter run. VERB? Ooooh duh!

I'll take a Reuben anyway I can get it on the rare times I find one on a menu. Some are disappointing. I eat a lot of canned corn beef recently since it's easy to chew & canned seems less likely to be contaminated. Number of area meat processing plants have had to close because of virus.

oc4beach said...

I prefer a Reuben grilled with rye or pumpernickel bread with corned beef, swiss cheese, sauerkraut and russian dressing. However, I also like an open faced Reuben on occasion. Without the sauerkraut it's not a Reuben, it's just a corned beef sandwich.

IMO Thousand Island dressing is not the same as Russian dressing.

Bill G said...

Canned corned beef. Fried up with a couple of eggs for breakfast. Maybe tomorrow?

~ Mind how you go...

PK said...

BillG: Yum!

Wilbur Charles said...

Re. Russian vs Thousand island from Wa-Post quoting various eoicuruans:
"The two condiments are not interchangeable. Russian dressing recipes typically call for mayonnaise, chili sauce or ketchup, relish, horseradish, paprika and other seasonings, making it considerably spicier and less sweet than Thousand Island dressing, with its hard-cooked egg, lemon or orange juice, cream and sweet pickle relish or olives."

I'm certainly not a dressing aficionado. I'm that rare duck that abhors mayonnaise. I need it spiced up. You should have seen what a local restaurant served as tartar sauce-"Where da Dill??!" Anything to mask the taste of mayo- The all American condiment. I'm not fond of ketchup either but I'll dip a French Fry in it. Never, ever put the ketchup directly on. And get it away from my Mac'n cheese not to speak of the unforgivable (in Boston, right lemonade?) of putting it on a hotdog.


Lucina said...

Ooooh! No! Mayo on a hot dog! Horrors!