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Nov 19, 2020

Thursday, November 19, 2020, Julian Lim

 

             

Good morning, once again, cruciverbalists.  As you have likely guessed from my reptilian friends, above, for today's theme our constructor, Julian Lim, has chosen a SALAD from the menu.

THEME:  SUPER SALAD ?  -  "I'll go with just the regular salad, please."

REVEAL:  36 ACROSS:  Steak go-with, perhaps, and a hint to 10 puzzle answers: SIDE SALAD.

This was a salad effort from Julian.  As if tossing ten (count 'em) theme answers into the grid was not, in and of itself, a sufficient recipe for success, he has skillfully placed all ten of the SALADs along the SIDEs of the grid.  Fortunately, this marine mammal spends copious time chomping on vegetation so the theme was recognized pretty quickly.  As an aSIDE, if you are helping a less-experienced solver work on a puzzle, you can fill in the perimeter for them.  Not only will they find it to be a help in working out the answers for themselves, but filling in those squares, and only those squares, can be an enjoyable way to hone one's own skills.

Rather than explore all ten of the theme answers here at the beginning of this recap, which would substantially disrupt the flow, we will address them in situ.  However, lettuce now take a look at the grid, the better to appreciate the accomplishment.  The overall success of the construction allows for a bit of forbearance when it comes to the quantity of three-letter fill . . . and a couple of other answers, too.



ACROSS :

1. Inaugural class MLB Hall of Famer: COBB.    COBB SALAD.   Ty COBB was elected to the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame in 1936.  Joining him were Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, Christy Mathewson and Walter Johnson.

Ty Cobb


5. Gift basket option: FRUIT.  FRUIT SALAD 

A Fruit Basket


10. Groanworthy humor: CORN.  CORN SALAD.  Before the expression "Dad Joke" became popular we used to call that type of humor CORNny.  For example:  Why don't they play poker in the jungle?  There are too many cheetahs.


14. Certain something: AURA.   Frank Zappa penned a line in which he rhymed AURA with Dora and flora but it is inappropriate for PG audiences.



15. Sunken ship finder: SONAR.  SOund NAvigation Ranging

16. Jai __: ALAI.



17. Dominic West alma mater: ETON.  This seems as if it is the five-hundredth way that we have seen ETON clued.  "The Wire" did not "air" under the sea so I had no idea who Dominic West is.

18. Tot's ache spot: TUMMY.  It is not the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, but you were (sorta) forewarned.  Apologies for any ear worms.  Wait, that's insufficient.  Apologies.  Period.

In 1968, Joey Levine Had Love In His Tummy


19. 1933 Banking Act creation: Abbr.: FDIC.   The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation


20. Pouch: SAC.  Often clued as Anatomical Sac.

21. Brother of Aaron: MOSES.  An Old Testament reference.

MOSES Gives Unto Us The Commandments

22. Like some survey questions: YES NO.  Survey question:  Have you seen this previously in crossword puzzles?  Please circle your answer:   YES     YES

23. Turkish title: AGA.  Often spelled AGHA, this honorific title was used more commonly during the time of the Ottoman Empire.

24. Is __: likely will: APT TO.



25. Sapporo rival: ASAHI.   Although now brewed in various places around the globe, ASAHI is a Japanese beer brand.  So is Sapporo.  ASHAHI's headquarters building is quite distinctive.

ASAHI Building, Tokyo


26. Brought back, in titles: REDUX.  Sometimes used today in reference to Java Script apps, the typical meaning of REDUX is to reference something revived or, as the clue says, "brought back".

28. Performed: DID.  By definition.

30. Had the role of: WAS.  Perhaps, a thespian or professional reference.

31. Mo. in which Oktoberfest begins: SEP.  "Mo." is used in the clue to tell us that the answer will be an abbreviation.  In this case the MOnth of SEPtember.  Oktoberfest officially begins at noon on the second to last Saturday in September.

32. Add: APPEND.   Again, by definition.

35. Abbr. in some vineyard names: STE.  As in SainTE, the French title for a female saint.  This time the clue was not the usual reference to STE. Jeanne D'Arc.  Merci.

Cuvee Ste Catherine Schlossberg


39. "Rugrats" infant: DIL.  Dylan Prescott "DIL" Pickles is a character in the "Rugrats" comic strip.
DIL Pickles


42. Trudeau's country: CANADA.  Is the plural of Trudeau Trudeaux?

Trudeau Fils et Pere

43. Night school subj.: ESL.  English as a Second Language.  A Crossword Staple.

46. Job listing inits.: EOE.  Equal Opportunity Employer.  Another Crossword Staple.

47. "__ dreaming?": AM I.  It is often clued along the lines of a French friend.

48. Behave badly: ACT UP.



50. Line of cut grass: SWATH.   A common sight on farms.  A SWATH can also be seen on baseball fields.



52. Lacking one's A game: NOT ON.  "A Game" is used in reference to performing at the very best of one's ability.  If twasn't for 54 Down, NOTON would be today's dubious prize winner.

56. Enero begins it: ANO.  Enero is Spanish for January and ANO is Spanish for year.

57. Mickey Mantle's number: SEVEN.



58. Reads quickly: SKIMS.  At first glance, I thought that it might be SCANS but these days that word is most commonly reserved for digitized documents and photographs.

59. Tatami, e.g.: MAT.  A traditional Japanese MAT at that.

60. Watches closely: EYES.   I have used the next image before but, with this clue and answer, 'tis worth a 26 Across:

Lab Redux Retriever

61. Prize money: PURSE.  When Floyd Mayweather fought Conor McGregor in August of 2017, the PURSE won by Mayweather was $275 million USD.

62. Pocket often filled: PITA.



63. Churn: ROIL.  ROILing seas move turbulently and violently.



64. Metallic sound: CLANG.



65. Hand or foot: UNIT.  The Hand is an ancient UNIT of measurement now standardized at four inches and used primarily for measuring the height of horses.

66. Cat food flavor: TUNA.  TUNA SALAD.  Do they make TUNA-flavored cat food?  I don't know.  Maybe we should ask him:

Rocket J. Cat
AKA Rocket Squirrel Blue Stanley


67. Naples staple: PASTA.  PASTA SALAD.  The regional cuisine of the Naples area favors paccheri and it must be cooked al dente.

Paccheri

68. __ Bell: TACO.  TACO SALAD.  TACO Bell has changed their advertising slogan several times over the decades but the food has stayed pretty consistent.


DOWN
:

1. "The fault . . . is not in our stars" speaker:  CAESAR    CAESAR SALAD.
". .  . but in ourselves" continues the quotation.  Some real wisdom there.  A line from Shakespeare's play Julius Caesar spoken in Act 1 Scene III but not by this CAESAR:

Sid Caesar

2. Power losses: OUTAGES.  In 1965, an OUTAGE caused 30 million people in eight U.S. states and two Canadian Provinces to lose electrical power.  Despite the urban myth, a comparison of the number of births in New York City nine months after the Great Blackout showed no increase associated with the OUTAGE.

3. Fashionable fabric in the Italian Renaissance: BROCADE.

A Woven Brocade Silk Lehanga

4. Make illegal: BAN.  An old joke goes, "My grandfather had the heart of a lion . . . and a lifetime BAN from the zoo."

5. Nikon setting: F-STOP.  A photographers' joke:  "I was watching a beautiful sunset with my girlfriend and thinking . . . 1/250s at F8."

6. Boot from bed: ROUST.



7. Yet to be satisfied: UNMET.  "Life is under no obligation to give us what we expect."  --  Margaret Mitchell

8. "There's no getting out of this one": I AM SO DEAD.  Well, likely not literally DEAD.  The quotation marks tell us that it is something somebody might say when they're in a difficult situation.  We have all heard alternative words spoken.

9. Handle in court: TRY.

Judge Judy TRYing a Trying Case


10. Cappuccino sellers: CAFES.  Okay, so lots of places sell Cappuccinos.  Neither Starbucks nor Coffee Bean And Tea Leaf would fit in the allotted space.

11. Adages: OLD SAWS.  From the Old English SAGU meaning "saying".

An OLD SAW


12. Gear for a drizzle: RAIN HAT.  This could have been many different things for you land-based mammals but this is the best answer:



13. From a coastal French city: NICOISE.   SALADE NICOISE originated in the city of Nice, France.  It is similar to our Cobb Salad (see 1 Across) but is made with tuna, green bean, and potatoes instead of bacon, chicken, and avocado.

21. Highest degree: MAX.  Often, the answer to this clue is the misuse of Nth.

22. One-third of et cetera?:  YADDA, YADDA, YADDA.



27. Happy times: UPS.  When the UPS driver arrives with that package from Amazon?

29. Visiting the Griffith Observatory, say: IN LA.

Griffith Observatory Los Angeles, California

32. Counting Crows frontman Duritz: ADAM.

Adam Duritz

33. Cape Cod, e.g.: PENINSULA.
34. Pro bono TV spot: PSA.  Public Service Announcement

37. Billionaire business mogul Carl: ICAHN.  As of 2020, Carl ICHAN's net worth is reported to be just under 15 Billion USD.

38. Tenth mo. in the original Roman calendar: DEC.  I am fascinated by humankind's repeated attempts to smash together, in their calendars, the timing of the orbit of our moon and the earth's orbit around the sun.

39. It's usually downed last: DESSERT.  DESSERT SALAD. 

Cranberry Ambrosia Salad


40. "Next one's on me":  I OWE YOU.



41. Keep as part of the manuscript: LEAVE IN.  Usually, we see STET.

44. Legs: STAMINA.  A bit of misdirection.  Not a body part.  In slang, something that "has legs" is something that lasts a long time.  It would have been more fun if the the answer had been ZZ Top.  Formed in 1969, ZZ Top has legs.

LEGS

45. Nut: LUNATIC.  This clue may have been intended to deceive us as into thinking of a Filbert (or some other seven-letter nut) or, perhaps,  something to do with hardware.



48. Q&A part: Abbr.: ANS.  . . . and the ANSwer is:  Fill
 
49. Ingredient in the Irish dish colcannon: POTATO.  POTATO SALAD. Colcannon is made with mashed POTATOes and kale or cabbage.

51. Model S manufacturer: TESLA.  The eponymous Nikola TESLA was a highly noteworthy inventor.   I wonder if,  one hundred years from now, people will move around in things called Musks.

Tesla Model S

53. Veggies whose seeds can be roasted and ground to make coffee: OKRAS.  I did not know this.

54. Quaint denial: TISNT.   This almost-never-seen contraction for It Is Not is, IMHO (In a Manatee's Humble Opinion), the nadir of today's construction.  Really, 'tis.

55. __-3 fatty acids: OMEGA.   OMEGA-3 fatty acids are generally believed to be beneficial to humans.  Walnuts, salmon, CVS, Walgreens and Shoppers Drug Mart are good sources.

61. Angel Dust letters: PCP.  Phenyl Cyclohexyl Piperidine  Quite the misnomer as PCP, with it's neurotoxic side effects, is the antithesis of angelic.

62. Knock, with "down": PUT.  To PUT down someone, or something,  is slang for criticizing.




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MM OUT

60 comments:

Art said...

I have been going to Cape Cod since 1987 it is an island not a peninsula. You access it from the mainland via one of two bridges the Bourne Bridge or the Sagamore Bridge. Since the Cape Cod Canal is a man made waterway there can be some argument but talk to most residents and the refer to “the mainland” and going “off Cape”.

Here is an article from the Cape Cod Times on the subject including the opinion from an oceanographer from The Woods Hole Institute (located on the Cape) classifying it as an island.

https://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20180901/curious-cape-cod-no-man-is-island-but-can-cape-be

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Confidently inked in RUTH at 1a, and d-o was off and Wite-Outing. Didn't notice the salads during the solve, probably because I only got as far as "Steak go-with..." in the reveal clue. Noticed the CSO to Lucina at ESL. The train came into the station ahead of schedule this morning, so life is good. Thanx, Julian and MalMan. (Yes, there is TUNA-flavored dry catfood.)

FDIC: I remember when they insured accounts only to $10,000. It was $5,000 when I was born, but I wasn't paying attention at the time.

ASAHI: Like most swabbies, I purchased an ASAHI Pentax camera when our ship made a stop in Japan. In the US that camera was branded Honeywell. Also picked up a set of Noritake china for my sister.

PITA: I saw an episode of America's Test Kitchen (or maybe it was Cook's Country, who can tell the difference?) last weekend which explained how to make PITA bread with it's build-in pocket. Complicated.

TACO: In the dystopian futuristic film, Demolition Man, radio entertainment consisted only of old-time commercial jingles ("Jolly, Ho-Ho-Ho, Green Giant!"), and all restaurants were TACO Bells.

Yellowrocks said...

FIR Clever theme. I didn't see the salads until the end. ASAHI gave me the spelling for NICOISE which was above POTATO. OH, now I see the salads all along the sides of the puzzle! I was looking for a city before I thought of beer. I like Asahi with sushi.
MM, terrific expo. You are a natural.
I hadn't a clue of what CALCANNON is. I love potato salad. Homemade German potato salad with bacon and vinegar dressing served warm is a favorite of mine. David gave me a great recipe for Caesar coleslaw with bacon, anchovies and Parmesan cheese.
The appraiser finally came on Monday. She admired my antique china cabinet and I gave it to her. I would have had to ditch it. I believe she rushed her report in gratitude. Now the mortgage is supposed to be finalized Nov. 24 and my attorney is preparing the closing papers. He has been very conservative in his predictions, but says we should close on time, Dec. 1. Phew!

KS said...

Did not like this design. It was like seven different puzzles attached by very odd clues. I got six of the puzzles, but the NE did me in.

Yellowrocks said...

'Tis, t'aint, tisn't are all archaic. They are still found in period novels. I think the clue was fair, because it specified "quaint." It came to mind easily.
Angela's Ashes and its sequel, 'Tis, memoirs by Frank McCourt, were very interesting. I see there are more books in this series. I should look them up. I will be very near the library when I move.

Mark said...

Couldn't decide between RUTH or BABE for 1A so I left it blank long enough for COBB to appear.

Didn't see the side salads 'till the very end as TUNA, PASTA, and TACO seemed an odd group for the bottom row.

Enjoyable puzzle and great recap.

inanehiker said...

Fun and creative puzzle from Julian today - as expected! Right off the bat, I had to wait for perps to know whether RUTH or COBB would be the answer. Of course at that point I didn't know the perimeters were SALADs or COBB would have been the easy fill. I've never heard the term DESSERT salad - though I understood the example in retrospect from the blog.

I didn't know Sapporo was a beer - just an Olympic city - so needed perps for the ASAHI fill.

Thanks MM and Julian!

Lucina said...

Hola!

This was a head scratcher but filled easily. I slid from the bottom upwards starting in the SW.

Hand up for SCANS before SKIMS. And just recently I ran into the Irish dish, colcannon so knew POTATO from my puzzle book. I believe it was a Barry Silk.

Yes, thank you for the CSO at ESL.

ASAHI looked wrong to me but the perps were solid, even NICOISE.

If I remember correctly, Carl ICAHN was involved in a scandal with Martha Stewart when he gave her inside trading secrets which is why she went to jail. But I could have the details wrong.

We have no need for a RAIN HAT or any kind of rain gear here since it hasn't rained for many months.

This was a fun challenge, thank you, Julian Lim and many thanks to you, MalMan for your lively commentary.

Have a beautiful day, everyone!

Mike M. said...

One Down answer is NOT Caesar
Spoken by Cassius.

Linkster said...

A very clever puzzle from Julian - I wonder if "Julienne" was being worked as a possible fill.

I had "ruth" for one across as well. As soon as I worked four down and realized BAN was the answer, COBB had to be the cross. I had "kirin" for Sapporo rival and needed crosses to clue me in to a beer I have never tasted.

I love Cape Cod and an easy fill because of the nine letters. Difference between Cape Peninsula:

"A cape is connected to the mainland by a larger mass of land than a peninsula, which is connected by a thin land mass. In other words, a peninsula is almost an island. A cape is bordered by water on two sides, but a peninsula is bordered by water on three sides."

Perhaps Cape Cod should have been named Peninsula Cod...

Hungry Mother said...

FIR, with write-overs: MOSES 4 hOSEa, ROUST 4 ROUSe, SKIMS 4 ScanS, CLANG 4 CLANk. For some reason I thought YADDA was spelled “yada”. I even tried that in SB a while back. This solve went as usual for me most of the time in LAT grids: I use found letters to try to get an included answer. That doesn’t happen to me in NYT grids, maybe because I do them online rather than in ink. I’ve concluded that solving in ink is harder.

Malodorous Manatee said...

Mike M is correct. Sorry for not catching that. . . and I have read the play although it was quite a while ago.

Wilbur Charles said...

Niçoise needs the cedilla for correct pronunciation. This was the fastest Thurs on record, fastest of the week.

Yes, COBB received more votes than Ruth but was not unanimous. Six more were selected and 11 inducted as the first class. I think unanimity waited for Mariano Rivera.

Concannon is a popular Irish name and Jack was a QB for the Bears. Personification of mediocrity but possibly the best the Bears had until their SB in the mid-80s. He should have signed with the Patriots; merger was imminent.

Cape Cod was a PENINSULA for EONs but now is regarded as an island? Such chutzpah. Disclaimer, went to the Cape as far back as '57 and my sister owns a place there. I remember Zach's.

My main w/o was indeed scans/SKIMS. I argued with Mr S whether OKRA had a C or K. That guy, gotta luv'im

WC

Mike M. Thanks, it didn't sound like something Caesar would say. OMK will be along to fill us in.

And to make it simple: A Cape is a curvy PENINSULA

ATLGranny said...

FIW today with one bad square at oSAHI and YoDDA. Not as familiar as I should be with Japanese cities and beer or what Yodda said. CORN had taken a long time to appear as that corner was hard. But my last fill was REDUX and MAX. An alphabet run helped there when REDUb didn't seem to work with MAb. The bottom section filled easily compared to the top, as others have said.

The theme was fun. DESSERT salad was a new term for me and it took a few tries to spell NICOISE. Before perps suggested otherwise, I thought we were looking for toss SALADs. I know, it's tossed not toss, but SIDE solved that problem. Thanks for your interesting review, MalMan. Super job! And thanks to Julian for today's different SALAD puzzle. Now I am thinking of lunch possibilities.....

Good day to all.

Tinbeni said...

Manatee: Excellent write-up & links.

Gimmie of the year, 57-a NY YANKEE, Mickey's number SEVEN.

I'm stuck (AGAIN!) with a beautiful, sunny, 70 degree day. Oh well ...

Looks like it will be B-B-QUE RIBS for Thanksgiving.

With the Covid-19 Out-of-control, Gal-Pal and I are eating apart, alone.

Maybe we can "Get-Together" at Christmas.

Y'all be safe out there.

Cheers!

Spitzboov said...

Good morning everyone.

Was able to solve without aid. Had scans before SKIMS. Wanted 'nth' but MOSES nixed that. REDUX confirmed MAX. Neat theme. FIR
SWATH - Mowed many hayfields for my Dad. Detested hidden woodchuck holes.
PENINSULA - If Cape Cod is an island because of the man-made canal, then so is the Peloponnesus in Greece with the Corinth canal and the Jutland peninsula in Denmark and Germany per the Kiel canal. I don't think so. Brittanica says Cape Cod is a peninsula.
OUTAGES - The outage to which MM refers occurred on a Tuesday night in Nov., 1965 around 5 pm. I was having a light supper at our apt. in Buffalo before proceeding to my weekly Tuesday night drill for Reserves. A member of our Naval unit was an electrical warrant officer who worked for the local utility; he explained in a very preliminary fashion what happened. (Some things you just never forget.) That situation has never recurred in over 55 years, so I guess they got the relay configurations properly engineered.
CAESAR - I agree with Mike M.

Big Easy said...

When I saw Julius Lim's name I guessed it would be a harder than normal Thursday and I had to fill a few new words by perps-NICOISE- never heard the word or of the SALAD. BROCADE- after filling the grid I asked DW if she had heard of it and she had. I know about oxidation-reduction but REDUX, not a chance.

Didn't notice all the SALADS on the perimeter and can honestly say that I'd never heard of CORN, DESSERT, or NICOISE salads. Don't know who Dominic West or ADAM Duritz are either. ETON filled itself.

FLN- WC, MM, & Chairman- why does it seem that when you are playing very badly, ready to put the clubs up for a garage sale, that on the 17th & 18th holes you start hitting the ball and playing better? Hook it, slice it, skull it, chilly-dip chip shots, and putt badly all day until the last few holes.

desper-otto said...

Spitz, 1965 wasn't the last major blackout in that area. The 1965 blackout affected about 30,000,000 people. A Northeast blackout in 2003 affected some 55,000,000 folks and it was 14 days before all power was restored.

Spitzboov said...

DO - I was referring to the specific situation as it developed at the Niagara-Ontario border. Other major blackouts initiated in other areas; one in the 70's in the Con-Ed area. Not familiar with details of the 2003 incident.

Husker Gary said...

Musings
-Got ‘em but NICOISE has never crossed my menu before and I only know Sapporo the city -It appears YADDA can have one or two D’s. With YADAS I got SIDE SALSA and APPENA first
-When a submariner hears a SONAR ping: “I AM SO DEAD”
-DID – “The symphony played Tchaikovsky, Tchaikovsky lost.”
-For years, Dodger ace pitcher Clayton Kershaw was NOT ON in the post season
-A Mantle #7 1960 game-worn jersey recently sold for $145,000
-The Masters Golf Tournament had a huge PURSE this year. Jimmy Walker finished 60th and won $26,000
-Judge Judy’s look supports the Margaret Mitchell quote
-Name the movie: where this scene was shot at the Griffith Observatory.
-Answer to Name That Movie
-Producers always hope their shows will “have legs”
-2020 Thanksgiving TISN’T the day for large family gatherings
-Comment 1 discovery – I never saw colcannon in the cluing. POTATO filled in itself
-Comment 2 discovery – I couldn’t imagine CAESAR saying “the fault is in ourselves”. Cassius says it in the play Julius Caesar

Malodorous Manatee said...

BE, my theory is that the less I cared the better I played. Then, of course, when I played better I cared more and, therefore, began to play worse. The cycle would repeat.

Shankers said...

This all filled in quite quickly except for the NE. Not familiar with Sapporo I confidently entered Osaka, but that gave me yodda which I knew wasn't right. Stubbornness produced a DNF not being able to suss Nicoise.

Brian said...

Continuing on the discussion of canals negating a defined land mass, then Panama would no longer be an isthmus.

NaomiZ said...

FIR and noticed the top row SALADs, but didn't hunt for the others, and am glad I came here for MM to show me how they were all along the SIDE. Hand up for never having heard DESSERT SALAD, but I have eaten FRUIT SALAD as dessert, so it makes sense. I wanted "pizza" for the Naples staple -- have you read _Eat, Pray, Love_? -- but TISNT pizza day, apparently. Very clever puzzle, Julian. Thanks for the brilliant tour, MM.

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

I didn’t notice all of the salads until the reveal filled in and that gave me a smile. I had a few stumbles at Asahi and Dil, and the spelling of Niçoise, and a few w/os: Redub/Redux, (Hi, ATL Granny) Cut Up/Act Up, and Osaka/Asahi (Hi, shankers). I liked the Dec and Sep duo and Julian certainly brought his A game with Aura, Aga, Yadda, In LA, Canada, Tuna, Tesla, Pasta, Omega, Pita, PSA, and, phew!, Stamina! Big CSO to CanadianEh at Canada.

Thanks, Julian, for an enjoyable solve and thanks, MalMan, for the great review and the cute and clever visuals.

TTP, did you prepare your Chicken Marsala yet? I thought of you last night when I ordered Veal Marsala from my favorite Italian restaurant. It was very good and I have leftovers of the veal and the Angel hair pasta, plus Clams Casino. Yum!

YR, fingers crossed that your closing and move go smoothly.

My car passed inspection with flying colors and is all set for the winter.

Have a great day.

Edward Duarte said...

Being in LA, I love salads with nuts, seeds, crunchy bits,

Edward Duarte said...

First read thru was scary but it filled nicely from the bottom , up

NaomiZ said...

Malodorous Manatee, FLN: You were "Hamilton High '68." I was University High '72. So close!

AnonymousPVX said...


Well, it seems rather odd to me that a a crossword puzzle creator AND the editor could get a Shakespearean quote wrong. Especially since there are so many quotes actually said by Caesar.

Otherwise no issues.

Misty said...

Well, Thursdays are generally toughies for me, and this one was no exception. But still fun, Julian, many thanks. And great pictures and commentary, MM--enjoyed both.

Nice to get CANADA and the Cape Cod PENINSULA (so, is it?). I used to enjoy going there in my younger travel days. Yep, CAESAR is a salad--have had it occasionally. First put NTH for highest degrees, then PHD, still didn't work--oh MAX! Of course figured the Octoberfest was likely to be held in October, but saw it had to be SEP.

Anyway, fun solving, thanks again, Julian. And have a great day, everybody.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Julian Lim for a wonderful, clever yet tricky puzzle, and thank you MalMan for an interesting review.

MM you missed the fact, that the Caeser clue was wrong, but that was something I noted right away, having studied the entire play at school. Cassius says it to Brutus in Act 1 Scene 3, early on in the game, when he is trying to get Brutus into the conspiracy against Caeser.
But, in the CW, I realized I had to put "Caeser" because the CW constructor wanted that answer.

I know and realize, that I am probably the Nth person to point that out ...

As Re:: A Peninsula, - any land mass jutting into the sea, mostly surrounded by water, but connected to the mainland on one side, is a peninsula.
For example, the entire indian subcontinent is called the Indian peninsula. Also the lower part of Thailand and Malaysia, etc.

Since someone mentioned it, just to set the facts straight, the FDIC insurance on US linked bank accounts is USD 250K per depositor, per account. A joint account, with 2 owners would be insured to USD 550K, yada, yada, yada. Includes Principal and accrued interest.

Money market accounts, on the other hand, at member broker dealers, are covered by the SIPC ( an NGO, by federal statute @1970) for 500K total, for All Accounts per customer, of which, only 250K max for cash portion of the accounts. This coverage is only if, the member firms, e.g. the Schwab, Fidelity etc., firms actually fail financially. Obviously, it does not cover market risk.

Boo LuQuette AKA Boudreaux in Eunice, La. said...

@Malodorous Manatee Yes the X at the end of a last name would mean the family... Example invitations were sent to people and the family of Primeaux's were invited. If only Mr. Primeau was invited no X on his name.... I was born a Primeaux, here in Southwest Louisiana the X is on all the names, that's how the state could tell Canadian French from the Parisian French....

I got it all filled out , but I FIW a couple letters, Rouse for Roust.. Asahr for Asahi..RedaX for Redux,

Plus Tard from Cajun Country..

CrossEyedDave said...

Grid design was a toughie,
with only one or two entryways to the
separate sections. Luckily the perps were with me...

Cleverly done puzzle,
(except for the misquote,)
(how'd the heck that happen?)

But,

I said it on Saturday,
and I'll say it again today,
Mezcal Redux...

Anonymous said...

250K x 2 = 500K

Not 550K. Typo.

CanadianEh! said...

Terrific Thursday. Thanks for the fun, Julian and MalMan.
I enjoyed this CW and found all the SIDE SALADs with their placement. Clever. (LOL, Linkster@8:36 re Julienne)
But I arrived here to discover that I FIWed. I had REDUb for those recycled titles; REDUX is not a familiar word for me, and what does it have to do with titles??? (Okay, I LIUed; the Cambridge Dictionary says "it is often used in titles of films and video games".)

Yes, I smiled when I saw my CSO with CANADA. LOL, MalMan, re Trudeaux (which would indeed be the French plural! - Boo, is the X French Canadian or Parisian French??).
I had my usual Canadian disadvantage with FDIC, SWATH (spelled without the British E).
ICAHN was unknown also. But I am very familiar with Salad Niçoise (pronounced nee-SWAHZ).

Obviously I don't know my beers; I thought Sapporo was a vegetable oil (Oh, that is Saporito) and ASAHI required every perp (hello inanehiker). (Does it have anything to do with the AHI TUNA? CORNy)

Hand up for NTH; but I did not change to MAX. I thought we needed a university degree and the highest one would be PHD (hi Misty). Perps (and wrong entry for Redux) then gave me MAB (hello ATLGranny, IM), which left me wondering how a Masters degree could ever be considered the highest, and shouldn't it be MBA?? D'uh!

Another hand up for Scans to SKIMS. I thought of Sue before TRY.
We had SEP and DEC (hello IM), and ANO.
Third hand up for never having heard of colcannon, but as soon as I had the PO---O I realized that a typical Irish dish would surely have POTATOes. Only a famine would intervene.

MikeM@8:33 - I LIUed to check and you are correct that Cassius not CAESAR was the speaker. OMK will probably chime in here (WC beat me). Bad editing mistake it seems (perhaps Julian will chime in as to whether it was his original clue or edited). Unfortunately there is not a Cassius salad.

Meh clues/answers for me were "Happy times=UPS, Legs=STAMINA, Had the role of=WAS, Performed=DID" but I will forgive them based on the brilliance of the theme. I had no problem with TISN'T - the clue did say "quaint"! (I see YR agrees)

Questions arising today: you can have two Ds in Yada!? you can make coffee with OKRAS!?
MalMan- is there another way to pronounce AURA rather than like Dora or flora?? Okay, I LIUed again! and apparently it can also be pronounced AW-rah. Not by this Canadian.

I don't remember that power OUTAGE in 1965 but I do remember the one in 2003!. We were not out as long as some people (we had rotating outages or brownouts) but it was hot with no air-conditioning.

Wishing you all a great day.

TTP said...


Hello to all. Fun puzzle and easy to see the SALADs upon completion. Thank you, Julian, and thank you Malodorous Manatee.

Slow and steady solve. It took just over 15 minutes as I had to wait for perpaid in a few places. NICOISE, DIL and SEVEN.

A couple of typeovers. CLANk had to tun into CLANG and ScanS had to turn into SKIMS. Misty, I too first tested for "nth" and "phd" before finally getting to MAX !

To me, "Reads quickly" would be scans, such as a fast top-to-bottom read of a memo or a newspaper article, etc. On the other hand, flipping through a magazine, pausing for a few seconds here and there to read an article title, a caption or a paragraph connotes SKIMS. YMMV.

Thought of Lucina at ESL and Canadian Eh at CANADA.

MM, I too thought of the Yummy, Yummy, Yummy song and then The Ohio Express. Probably because I just read the Wikipedia article on them, as well as The Ohio Players and Wild Cherry a few weeks ago. I'm getting the sense that you are also a Simpson's fan.

Hungry Mother - Solving in ink is definitely messier. At least for me.

Desper-otto, I watched that episode on making PITA bread. I also don't remember whether it was on ATC or Cook's Country. In a related note, I've been watching episodes of A Taste of Ireland on Recipe TV lately. With Chef Catherine Fulvio from the Ballyknocken Cookery School. I thought I recalled her making Colcannon the other day, but couldn't find a video of it. Failing that, here's another cook's take, using everyone's favorite (kale) in the recipe: Colcannon Recipe - Tasty Irish Mashed Potato

Irish Miss, not yet on the Chicken Marsala. Your Veal Marsala meal sounds wonderful. Going to make Broccoli Cheese soup later today. Was going to make it the other day, but had a heck of a problem trying to get the blender set up on the Oster Kitchen Center. The solution was simple, but by the time I'd discovered it, I'd already ordered a standalone-single-purpose blender. DW is the expert on the OKC. Got that new blender yesterday afternoon. Here's where my course menu gets really weird. I've already made Dirty Rice to have with the broccoli cheese soup. Hey, I likes what I likes !

Ray - O - Sunshine said...

FIW! (and I knew it was wrong)... REDUb crossed with MAb. (X should have marked the spot). Plus ROUSe (what's APeTO?). ? But...I parsed the theme....salads all along the sides...(for my TUMMY). Very ingenious Mr. Lim, Had to stand back a bit to appreciate the salads along the sides of the puzzle.

OMEGA changed to seiKso changed bling to clinK still wrong...CLANk back to OMEGA ...CLANG! .. Sheesh! What a LUNATIC.

Maple leaf salute: Oh CANADA (eh?). ...... Who is Dominic West? .....Thinking went if a Model T was an old Ford then Model S must an old Ford with fewer perks.

SEP - DEC, Latin 7 - 10th months. The Romans had to constantly fiddle with their calendar to make it agree with the seasons and festivals. Julius Cæsar (while eating his salad?) came up with a solution... Caesarian section..no..sorry the Julian Calendar. (Mr. Lim's namesake).No more Christmas in July. (and Julius got a month named after him).

DW taught evening ESL classes (and makes a great PASTA salad). Using a different dialect today? YADDA not YADA? ....legs? STAMINA? my car keys have legs (they walk away and hide). "Certain something" ..Je ne sais quoi..too long

Colcannon ingredient? (was waiting for something alcoholic, Guinness? ...lol).ah: POTATO...."keep as part of the manuscript" is always stet "but today TISN'T (I originally had taint)

More CORN salad.....

While my nephew ironed his pants my _____ dressing. NIÇOISE

Crouches down again....REDUX

Ragu and Prego, passed usage dates.....OLDSAWS

"Carl _____ use a spare billion"...ICAHN

On to Friday...

Anonymous T said...

On being ignorant:
a) C--SAR seemed fine by me
b) spelled it CeaSAR

Hi All!

Thanks Julian for the puzzle - learned wat a NICOISE is. Saw the salads after COBB, FRUIT, CeaSAR filled (edge-SALAD(?) SALAD-edges(?) were my 1st two thoughts :-))

Dang! MManatee - that was (still is) a lot of GIFs to link. And I loved History of the World, Part I clip.

WOs: See: CeaSAR. I thought Thum[b]s had a "b" in it (I LIU later, it does :-)) - oh, SKIMS, that really messed up how I was trying to spell PENIStULA. LSD b/f Duh!, EEO b/f EOE
ESPs: NICOISE, MAT(?)
Fav: ASAHI - goes well with sushi

Mel played MOSES and MAX is his son. [a C19 PSA].
MAX is also a writer and was a consultant to the US Military.
//maybe that crossing should be my Fav :-)

IM - good news about your car. Better news: the mechanic didn't "find" anything to "fix."

On golf - BIL is avid, pretty decent (played Pebble Beach once and brags about his score (no, I don't recall)) and drags me out every now and again. Gentleman's 8 on every hole, me.

Play later(?).

Cheers, -T

Boo LuQuette AKA Boudreaux in Eunice, La. said...

@CanadianEh!   you might see this comment twice,  this is one of the theories I had thought about quite a few years back, I don't think this guy got the idea from me though, but I was doing the same thing in Houma before he did.... Here is a link https://www.houmatoday.com/news/20070418/who-gave-boudreaux-his-x

This is the one that everyone agree's on nowadays......https://www.acadian.org/cajunx.html

Anonymous said...

Thats right.. Confused me for awhile

CanadianEh! said...

Thanks Boo. Interesting.

SwampCat said...

Boo, I leave to your expertise all things Cajun! N’Awlins and food are synonymous and I knew all of these. I’m surprised at Salade NICOISE. It’s a staple of lunch menus here.

Good puzzle, Julian, and good write up MalMan.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Yes, my friends, Husker G, CanadianEh!, Mike M., and others with a good ear, etc. &c.
You are right! It is Cassius who speaks this famous line to Brutus.
As an old actor/director (and one who has directed the play and over the years played Antony & Brutus), this was a real clunker for me.
From the movie version, I can still hear Gielgud's deep baritone as he moans the line to James Mason's Brutus.
I even wondered if it was okay to mis-spell CASSIUS with only two "S"s.

In other scenes, CAESAR utters plenty of other OLD SAWS, but no, not this one.
~ OMK
____________
DR:
A single diagonal on the far side.
Hmmm. Its anagram is interesting, especially to Shakespearean scholars.
Among the ingredients in the witches' cauldron in Macbeth are some that are not named in the play's text. This anagram reminds us that there were several things in the pot before the beginning of the witches' chant.
In addition to "EYE of newt and toe of frog," another item already in the stew is an ounce of VRM, or "Virgin's Rhinorrhea Mucus," also known as...
"MAIDEN SNOT"!

Malodorous Manatee said...

Anon-T, Valerie and I know of Max through his wife's work with a small theater in Venice, CA.

Ol' Man Keith said...

P.S.,
In fact, the missing words (elided in the clue for 1D) tell us to whom this sentiment is being addressed. The full line is,
"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Cassius and Brutus are the chief conspirators against CAESAR, and this occurs in the early scene in which Cassius persuades Brutus to join the plot.
~ OMK

Chairman Moe said...

Puzzling thoughts:

WEES, I had SCANS/SKIMS, and NTH/MAX, which took an almost complete alphabet run before "X" marked the spot. BAN/BAR was scribbled over several times before ETON/CAESAR fell.

Great puzzle idea and placement of all the ten SALADS on the SIDE. I did see that after the grid was filled. I saved SIDE SALAD for one of the last fills just for fun

Double M --> what can I say other than a brilliant recap

Sorry to be so late to the comments ... lots of "honey-do's" on this beautiful fall day in the Valley. Perfect weather! 80's during the late afternoon and 50's overnight

Big Easy ---> it's interesting that when I was in my youth (20's) as a golfer, and had already honed my game to a mid- single digit handicap, I found that I "choked" as I neared the clubhouse. Several times I was shooting at or near par only to have a bogey or worse on the finishing holes. I set a "goal" of sorts to break par or shoot par before turning 30. In the spring of my 29th year I finally broke the barrier and shot a 68 on a par 71 course. 67 is my all time lowest score, and that too, interestingly, finished with a bogey on 18. But the drinks at the 19th hole were still quite satisfying, and took away the "bad taste" of my three-putt on the final hole.

Yellowrocks said...

Japanese beer, IMO. #1 Kirin,#2 Asahi,#3 Sapporo, all great.
I doubted Caesar, but I could not think of another name beginning in C.
Were Shakespeare's lines old saws then or have they become old saws later? I think Shakespeare led to a tremendous expansion of English language expressions.
Corn salad is the only salad here I do not care for. I don't like chicken corn soup, corn in Mexican food, etc. I love corn as the only vegetable. Vegetable soup with corn as a minor ingredient is okay, but I would not miss its absence.

Anonymous T said...

LOL DR OMK.

MManatee - ever meet Max (or Mel?!?!?)

Golfers:
My best golf story...

BIL & I are playing at a "country course" in Alvin, TX (yes, home of Nolan Ryan - no, he's not in the story).

I'm teeing-off on the (7th? 8th?) which is about 120yds(?maybe?) from the clubhouse. The clubhouse had a huge plate-glass window facing the course (poor planning IMHO).

I slice badly (that's to the right, right?).
My ball is heading directly at the clubhouse's window.
I'm ready to lam the scene of the soon to be catastrophe...

However,..
My ball hits the railing on a bridge over a gully, careens left, and lands in the middle of the fairway.

Oh, yeah - I meant to do that :-)
//Whew!

Cheers, -T

LEO III said...

Well, I hoped I might have had a FIR, but I figured I had a couple of misses, and I didn’t do quite as well as I thought I had. I need not embarrass myself further.

Still, for a Thursday, I did fairly well. Once I figured out that 1A was COBB and not RUTH, the reveal revealed itself. Later, seeing the salads around the perimeter, I was able to crack some of the tougher nuts.

Despite my failure to convert, I really enjoyed the puzzle.

Thanks, Julian and MalMan.

Carl Icahn was once Texaco’s largest stockholder and was instrumental in resolving the Texaco/Pennzoil mess back in the 1980s. Don’t get me started!

Malodorous Manatee said...

Anon-T - I have never met either Mel or Max. Your story reminds me of the old golfing nun joke. You have likely heard it but, perhaps, others here have not:


Golfing Nun Joke

another MM said...

Glad to see the Malodorous back! I Missed him last week. His is my favorite blog....

another MM said...

Glad to see the MM back. His is my favorite blog!

Jayce said...

I thought for sure I would be stumped by a Julian Lim puzzle, but 'twasn't to be. I am happy to have been able to solve it. I liked the theme. Never heard of Dominic West but ETON got filled from the perps. I also never heard of Counting Crows or of ADAM Duritz; ADAM got filled by the perps. At least I did know of Carl ICAHN. I so much wanted PIZZA as the Naples staple (cute clue, Julian's?) and was reluctant to let go of it. PASTA is good, too.

Manatee, I love your quip "I wonder if, one hundred years from now, people will move around in things called Musks."

Take care, all.

Anonymous T said...

Skipped over my BFF Cornerites?!?
//Didn't refresh b/f posting.... Say:

BooL - I, like Swamp, will leave all the CoonAss lingo to you. Oh, I've some friends from down your way. Fun folk yous are.

CED - nice REDUX.
Jayce - Pizza salad? I suppose if you get the deluxe :-)

TTP - My ink solves can get very messy. Didn't CED link a PITA how-to a week or so ago. Hot wok-ish looking thing is what seemed to do the trick.
Some Wild Cherry //and they was dancin' and groovin' and movin'...

Ray-O: ICAHN - ha!

C, Eh! The 2003 outage was caused by hackers? Or a giant TESLA coil being tested (sorry, couldn't find cite - but I heard on the crazy people show [Coast2CoastAM]!) just north of the border...
CED, I need to refresh that build a TIN FOIL HAT link :-)

Cheers, -T

waseeley said...

1D Given the theme of this puzzle (SIDE SALADS), the answer to this clue had to be CAESAR and certainly couldn't be CASSIUS. How could he have had "a lean and hungry look" surrounded by all that food! If the clue was Julian's it would be the responsibility of the editor to change it to something that gave the correct answer, e.g. ''"I am as constant as the Northern Star" speaker'.

Other than this problem I thought the puzzle was rather ingenious.

CrossEyedDave said...

Anonymous T,

I was looking for an easy way to make bread in the woods
when camping when I came across The Pita Bread recipe.

You do not need a mixer, but it makes things easier at home.

If you follow this video to the letter,
you will taste the most amazing fresh bread.
better than any pita you would buy in a store.

I am not sure what makes it so good,
except that unlike other bread/pizza recipes,
this adds no sugar, or honey, or whatever you
might add to feed the yeast except flour in a sponge
method, like sourdough...

It is important that you follow the roll/rest 5 minutes before cooking
procedure, which means rolling them one by one at a time just before
cooking.

And you must use a cast iron pan! Screaming hot!
With just enough oil to season the pan.
(you don't fry these things!)
if you add too much oil, wipe it out with a paper towel!
(you just want a coating...)

And don't make that Tin Foil Hat!
And especially do not add an antenna!
It's not a shield, it's a receiver!
(actually, it's not that bad,)
(that's how I received this pita recipe...:)

Spitzboov said...

Waseeley - But which northern star did he really mean? Polaris was not really the north star 2000 years ago due to the earth's precession. Supposedly some 10º from the pole.
Maybe the Northern Star wasn't so constant and neither was Caesar.
The world wonders.

Wilbur Charles said...

-T, I enjoyed Wild Cherry. I liked the dancing sax players.

I should have added "If there's nae lie'n there's nae golf

I got a late start though I caddied as a kid. Being left-handed it was hard to find gear. Being cheap was a factor. Ping made lefties. Industry didn't like lefties.

WC

waseeley said...

I hope the Texaco/Pennzoil "mess" had nothing to do with Texaco dropping its 75 yr+ sponsorship of the Metropolitan Opera!

waseeley said...

Spitzboov - Polaris would have been the closest star to true North in 1599, the date of the first performance of Julius Caesar. In 44 BC the star Kochab, also in Ursa Minor but 0.11 dimmer than Polaris, would have been closest. Which you choose depends on whether you think Shakespeare was exercising poetic license or actually quoting Caesar. YMMV. But I would agree, the Northern Star is not constant, nor was Caesar.