, pub-2774194725043577, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0 L.A.Times Crossword Corner: Saturday, September, 9, 2023 by David Karp


Sep 9, 2023

Saturday, September, 9, 2023 by David Karp

 Saturday Themeless David Karp

On his Christmas Day puzzle in 2021, David told us he was a relatively new constructor from Victoria, B.C.,  Canada who took up puzzle construction during the pandemic. David's "day job" is as a policy advisor for the provincial government. He was also a new dad to son Mattias. 

UPDATE: David has returned to work after taking a year off to be a stay-at-home dad. Mattias is now walking all over the place and has become very chatty!  


1. Luxuriates: BASKS.

6. Self starter?: ESS - A meta clue: Self

9. Going concerns?: FADS - I grew up with a slew of 'em with hula hoops being my fav. Do you see any you recognize in this collage?

13. World record?: ATLAS ๐Ÿ˜€

14. Express opp.: LOC.

15. Hop on board?: OLLIE ๐Ÿ˜€

16. Brazilian steakhouse fare: CHURRASCO CHURRASCO is the Portuguese and Spanish name for grilled beef prominent in the cuisines of Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina.

18. Like the Spanish Steps: ROMAN - They originally descended to the Spanish embassy in Rome

19. "Hava Nagila" dance: HORA.

20. Some Gilded Age industrialists: RAIL BARONS.

22. Quinto role: SPOCK.

Leonard Nimoy    &     Zachary Quinto

24. "Rectify" star Young: ADEN.

25. Once called: NEE - Abraham and Mary [NEE Todd] Lincoln

26. Southern Ocean food source: KRILL - KRILL, for this whale, "It's what's for dinner"

28. Elderly: AGED.

30. Almost never: ONCE IN A BLUE MOON - Derivation


36. Gearshift toppers: KNOBS.

37. Zendaya's "Euphoria" role: RUE.

38. Dorm style: SUITE.

39. "More soon": DETAILS TO FOLLOW.

42. Hebrides language: ERSE - Hebrides Islands and Scottish/Gaeilic (ERSE) language in blue

43. Super Bowl highlights?: TV ADS - Non-football fans like these

44. Tack on: ADD.

46. Designation represented by the Mars symbol: MALE.

48. Yogurt-based condiment: RAITA - From last Saturday:

35. Dahi-based condiment of Indian cuisine: RAITA - An Indian yogurt-based condiment

51. Fare named for their original sponsors: SOAP OPERAS.

54. Hidden gem: FIND.

56. Made to fit: SIZED - Send in your measurements, choose your fabric and finishes and they do the rest

57. One who earns money on the links: AFFILIATE.

59. Avoid: ELUDE.

60. Hollywood's st.: FLA - Oh, that Hollywood.

61. American Eagle lingerie line: AERIE.

62. Banks with style: TYRA ๐Ÿ˜€

63. Leb. neighbor: SYR.

64. Plot: TRACT.


1. Baroque bigwig with a big wig: BACH ๐Ÿ˜€

2. Friend of d'Artagnan: ATHOS - A familiar name in a familiar trio

3. Put away noisily: SLURP.

4. Place with rounds and rounds of applause: KARAOKE BAR - Have you ever?

5. Georgia, once: Abbr.: SSR - Oh, that Georgia

6. Queen who appears in "Olaf's Frozen Adventure": ELSA.

7. Electric mixer?: SOCIAL BUTTERFLY - ๐Ÿ˜€ I too have been known to flit from person to person

8. Admonish: SCOLD.

9. Plant with pรฉtalos: FLOR.
10. Ingredient in a nutty vinaigrette: ALMOND OIL.

11. Designer von Fรผrstenberg: DIANE.

12. Perception: SENSE.

15. Crush, for one: ORANGE SODA - An elixir of my misspent youth

17. Alan of "The Kominsky Method": ARKIN

                          Michael Douglas   Alan ARKIN

21. Actor Bridges: BEAU.

23. State of emergency?: CRISIS MODE.

27. Metallica drummer Ulrich: LARS - I only know him from crosswords

29. Soy lecithin, notably: EMULSIFIER An emulsifier is used to make oil and water mix when they otherwise would not, and it helps stabilize and keep the ingredients from separating later.

30. Sanctioned: OK'D.

31. Vancouver-to-Yellowknife dir.: NNE - Well, David does live in British Columbia...

32. Nice resort area: COTE D'AZUR - We crossword peeps see Nice as a city in southern France first. Here it is on the Coast of Azure (Blue Coast).

33. Pope of 903: LEO V - He was the Roman Pope for two months but was deposed, imprisoned and murdered.

34. Missouri River people: OTO - Nebraska has OTO(E) and Pawnee County in the SE part of the state

35. Fresh: NEW.

40. Jarring transition: LEAP.

41. Language that uses Persian calligraphy: FARSI.

44. Valuable resource: ASSET.

45. Valentine decor: DOILY.

47. Team that shares an arena with the Raptors: LEAFS - Toronto Maple Leafs of the NHL and the Toronto Raptors of the NBA. Well, David does live in Canada...

49. Prom topper: TIARA - Brooke got one for homecoming two weeks ago in Arlington, NE. The laughter is because King Josh dropped the TIARA first.

50. Bit of tomfoolery: ANTIC.

52. Doughy Indian dessert flavored with: PEDA.

53. Way off: AFAR.

55. Bit of hot goss: DEET - A bit of hot goss(ip) will have at least one hot DEET(ail) ๐Ÿ˜š. This took some time but was fun when I got it. David said:  Yes, it looks like the editors kept my original clue for DEET, and your interpretation is correct! "Hot goss" is slang for juicy gossip and DEET is slang for "details" -- the slang usage of "goss" in the clue is intended to hint that the answer also contains slang. (Though now you've got me second-guessing the appropriateness of the clue -- I was just googling deet (in the non-mosquito-repellent context) and it looks like the plural "deets" is significantly more common than the singlar "deet").

58. Long. counterpart: LAT - I live at 
41.6473° North LATitude, 96.6638° West Longitude 


Subgenius said...

Zowie! What a toughie! One of the hardest things for me to get was the “self” clue. I was thinking “herself?” “himself?” “Itself?” It took me a long time to see the “ess” . I also had a hard time spelling “churrasco” and “karaoke,” but I finally was able to. Eventually, everything fell into place and I managed to FIR, so I’m happy. But, I repeat, what a toughie!

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Nope. Michigan stubbornly remained snow-covered. Tried EGO for "Self starter" and kept it. Thought of ROBBER BARONS, but it wouldn't fit. Finally gave up to let Husker 'splain it all. Bzzzzt. Thanx, David and Husker. (My niece emailed me yesterday that my H.S. math teacher died at 94 on Labor Day. He was my favorite teacher.)

Jinx in Norfolk said...

C'mon guys...this one had to be easy-for-Saturday since even I was able to finish. Finished wrong, but I finished. I was going in cabs instead of FADS. Erased mossy for ROMAN, blane for equally wrong biane, and image for SENSE.

Today is:
Share Your Care Day (really? A Care Bear Day on top of Teddy Bear Day?)
National Wiener Schnitzel Day (no, it’s not a hot dog dish)
(Don’t know why only one is all caps – that’s how I found them)

I still don't get "electric" for SOCIAL BUTTERFLY.

Actually, BLUE MOONs occur once every two to three years, and, of course, have nothing to do with the lunar hue.

I'll bet that the percentage of Cornerites who can drive a stick shift is far above the general US population. Count me as one; I've had a 4-speed Corvair and a 5-speed Mustang GT, among others.

Isn't "dorm style" an oxymoron?

SIZED? When I was in construction, our practice was "pound to fit and paint to match."

No hesitation for this NHL fan for LEAFS. Didn't fall for cal when FLA was needed.

Learned a new word today. The next time I need a little TLC, I'll ask for the PEDA cure.

KS said...

FIR. This was a challenge, with still many clues that make no sense. For example, electric mixer? Quinto role?
Threw down once in a blue moon and felt confident i was on a roll. Then I threw down details tomorrow and scratched my head. Nothing worked after that. And then the light bulb went off and I changed tomorrow for to follow. Ahhhh!
Overall I felt this was a slightly easier puzzle for a Saturday.

Anonymous said...

Big Easy from phone

I managed to FIR but there were so many unknowns words and clues i didn't know. I managed to get them by perps and guesses.


The biggest luck I had was 31 down. I misread it as Vancouver to Yellowstone, and I was thinking Vancouver Washington to Yellowstone. I've never watched the Star Trek so quinto was unknown, never heard a Rectify so young was unknown, never heard of goss being short for a gossip and after filling DEET I thought maybe goss was an insecticide. I had no idea what a Mars symbol was.

ONCE IN A BLUE MOON just happened.

Anonymous said...

Took 18:13 for me to, luckily, finish this one.

Lots of unknowns, including the actors/actresses & their roles (Quinto, Alan, Aden, Rue; I knew Beau). Foreign words weren't helpful or appreciated (Cote something, petalos, churrasco), nor were the unsightly abbreviations (loc., Fla., Syr., OKd, lat., NNE). And, of course, I didn't know the designer (which you could likely guess is you saw my wardrobe: jeans & t-shirts).

I think "electric" today means one who attracts others, or an electric personality." So, think of "a person with an electric personality at a social mixer."

Definitely a challenge, which I look forward to. Definitely too many proper names, which I have come to expect (I feel like I'm beating a dead horse on that one).

Lee said...

As Anon@9:00 points out we just had a BLUEMOON on August 29th.

Finished but with help. Had to look up the Zendaya role and the team sharing with the move things along.

Congratulations to David for those three grid spanners and five 10 downs. Well done! Hats off to Gary for his terse recap of the grid.

Bon chance!

waseeley said...

Thanks David for a doable Saturday FIR. Patti must be slipping as I get one only ONCE IN A BLUE MOON -- this is the second this weekend.

Thanks Husker for the beautifully illustrated review and the icing on the cake.

18A ROMAN. On our first trip to Rome we headed for our lodgings, and when we got to the bottom of the Spanish Steps our map showed us that it was on the other side of them. We schlepped our luggage all the way to the top only to find that the hotel was at the bottom of the hill. All we really needed to do was make a right at the bottom of the steps and in a block or so we would have been there!


1D BACH. Favorite clue. The BIGGEST of Baroque bigwigs - he wrote more than a thousand musical works, and had twenty children. Four of his six sons became respected composers in their own right. Here are 13 snippets of Bach pieces you've heard but don't know their names (4:51).

49D TIARA. DNK Brooke. Is she a relative?


Anonymous said...

I think I get “social butterfly” = “electric mixer?”: butterflies “flit” (as HG says) - ie energy scattered about - “mixing” it up in a “social” situation —> thus “butterfly”=“mixer” -and- (highly) “social”=“electric”. Clever, and a bit strained; and I like it cuz I’ve always been one. On another note: can someone tell me how to create a name for myself here - as I’ve been reading for years, commenting occasionally, and I’d love to be NOT “Anonymous”? I like y’all, and blog

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

I finished w/o help in just shy of 30 minutes, a time, for me, that reflects a challenging, but doable, Saturday offering. The fill, IMO, was fresh and lively, to wit, Once In A Blue Moon, Details To Follow, Social Butterfly, Emulsifier, Karaoke Bar, Cotรช d’Azur, etc. I needed perps for Ollie, Churrasco, Aden, Rue, Aerie, Peda, and Lars. Went astray at Ego/Ess and Dirt/Deet. Never heard of Hot Goss and Deet is only known from crosswords. Raita was easy as we just saw that recently., but I hesitated at OKD as it just looks forced and desperate. Some of the cluing was, IMO, too cute by half, but that’s a personal opinion.

Thanks, David, for a Saturday stumper and thanks, HG, for the many colorful, eye-catching visuals and for the background info on David.

Jinx @ 7:41 ~ Another National Holiday to tickle my fancy! Who doesn’t love Teddy Bears! I have a modest collection of them watching over me in my Den, not a one a valuable collectible, but every one sentimentally priceless. ๐Ÿป๐Ÿผ

Have a great day.

Monkey said...

I really liked this challenging but doable puzzle. There were lots of unknowns like OLLIE, Quinto, AERIE as clued, DEET, LARS and RUE, my only blank, but somehow perps took care of them.

At first I had CHaRRuSCO. SLURP and one of my favorite actors Allen ARKIN took care of that mistake.

I liked the SOCIAL BUTTERFLY clue.

As Subgenius would say, I’m happy.

I’m one who learned to drive with a stick shift on the column. Once I had a 4-speed yellow Corvair that was one of my favorite cars, unfortunately someone rammed me from behind throwing me into the car in front of me, so my sweet Corvair looked like an accordion.

Monkey said...

That should be “bonne chance”.

Charlie Echo said...

Nope. Way above my pay grade today. Hand up for driving stick. Once you learn, it's like riding a bike. I learned on my folks' '59 Pontiac Catalina, with "three on the tree", manual steering and brakes. BUTTERFLY: first heard this term from bar girls in Saigon. It was not a compliment!

Lee said...

You are correct.

NaomiZ said...

Lots of unknowns, but those didn't bother me as much as the "electric mixer" clue, which made me want to get a battery into BUTTERFLY. Was the gimmick to drop the FL? No, that didn't work with the other long clues. FIR but wasted a lot of time on the 7 down spanner!

G.A. said...

FIR in just over 30 mins, about 10 minutes in the NE corner :(
The longer entries came either easily or from perps but Ollie was trial and error along with Flor (the “L” came after quite a few nopes). As is typical of Saturday puzzles for me, I’d never have finished with pen and paper…

Malodorous Manatee said...

Another hand up for head scratching about "electric". Thanks to those, above, who offered the explanations. The "ollie" bit was a bit of clever cluing as in it-makes-sense-after-it's-solved.

Misty said...

Tough Saturday puzzle, but at this time of the week, it's appropriate, I suppose. So many thanks, David. And thanks for your very helpful commentary, Gary.

Baroque bigwigs like BACH and rail BARONS suggested lots of rich and classy hob-KNOBS, hanging out in a KARAOKE BAR and sipping ORANGE SODA before going back to their SUITE. What a bunch of SOCIAL BUTTERFLies, probably including some AFFILIATES. I wouldn't join them even ONCE IN A BLUE MOON. But I might watch them on SOAP OPERAS on nights when I don't get out.

Have a great weekend, everybody.

AnonymousPVX said...

Got the solve despite the horrible clues.

CrossEyedDave said...


If you want to "go blue," and have your own name and avatar,
You will need to create a blogger account.

Click on the above blue link for directions, or go to the main page of the crossword corner, and midway down on the right side you will find a column titled "Oleo." (Crosswordese for a little bit of everything) there you will find a treasure trove of helpful hints.

Bear in mind that your experience will differ based on how you access the blog. Mainframe computer, iPad, and iPhone versus android all have their own quirks as to how it all works. Good luck!

Ray - O - Sunshine said...

Does Canada Eh know that BC only has a “provisional” government. Will there be a US style coup attempt there too. (Think you meant “provincial”?๐Ÿ˜‰)

I dinna know RAITA, couldn’t think of TRACT.. “goss”? DEET: you mean the only insecticide (was temporarily illegal but I kept a hidden stash) that works to combat the Adirondack springtime blackfly plague?.. anyhoo I DNF the SE corner. Some interesting clues, “electric” kinda strange (WOS)…..Was sure “self starter” was Ego and wouldn’t budge (DO). Also CRISIScODE instead of MODE( the “Mars” symbol represents cALE? ) it’s seems it always OTOe. PEDA?

My sieve-like memory failed me with OLLIE which has been featured on previous puzzles, perped. Often boarded a “locale" rather than an “espresso” by mistake (slower cuz lotsa stops) when traveling by train as a student in Italy but the clue ELUDEd me

My families cousins,aunts, uncles etc….. ARKIN
Piso en Inglรฉs….. FLOR
Young female horse ingested ….AFFILIATE

Rainy weekend ☹️ but working half days to help out so no big whoop

Yellowrocks said...

FIR on paper without help.Seemed easier than most Saturday puzzles. PEDA and GOSS were the only totally unfamiliar words. Needed a few perps to suggest some of the answers. The long fills provided plenty of perps. I liked that the answers were not my first thought.
My mom used to say once in a blue moon, meaning rarely.
IMO clues were fair for a Saturday. Cote D'Azur is a foreign place with no English name. It is not a foreign word.

Chairman Moe said...

Puzzling thoughts:

FIW with a Natick or two in the NE

Jinx @ 7:41 --> I recently saw this article on the cost of decorating a dorm room. It's an eye opener. My dorm was decorated with dust!

Stick shift/manual gear box/standard transmission ... call it what you want ... I learned (in the 1960's) how to drive a car with a stick shift, and I reverted back to driving cars with a manual gearbox in 2008

Anonymous T said...

Hi All!

Oy! Another Saturday big-fat DNF. Thanks David for the grid. Thanks HG for the (correct) answers.

FAILs: EGO at Self starter (Hi D-O!), HULA at 19a, PRO GOLFER @57a, and more.
DNFs: grid was 1/2-snow b/f cribbing from HG (see: names)
Moment of Glory: ONCE IN A BLUE MOON sans perps (it was a LEAP of faith) and EMULSIFIER was quick to follow.
Fav: SLURP - V8 can hit after I realized eating & not slamming the cabinet doors
I also liked ORANGE [SODA] Crush [REM]

FLN - I solved & enjoyed reading everyone but at 2:00a... [ellipsis]

IM - OK'd is how I usually type it. OKED is more "ugly/forced" to me. My $0.02.

D-O: I sometimes fantasize about contacting the teachers that made a huge difference in my life but they're probably all dead by now. Dr. "Buzzy" Roots was my EE advisor who actually met with me when I was still in HS and guided my desire to "build smart robots."
I had a math teacher that said "you don't belong in my class - I'm going to get you into advanced geometry."
I had a Calc prof who met her husband in "the Rocket Racket" during WWII. Even as I had issues with integrals, she said "you have a strong basis in Algebra - keep at it and you'll do fine." //after a D in Calc3, I wondered if I could be a EE. She said - "This part is memorization and in real life, you'll have the CRC."

Jinx - inre drive a stick: First, most Cornerites had no choice when they learned to drive ;-)
Second: All my rides are (have been) stick - no better way to connect to the engine, IMHO.
I drove carpool w/ my buddy to HH last week.
Buddy: "OMG, I haven't seen a stick in a long time."
Me: "It's my anti-theft device" :-)

Enjoyed reading everyone! Have a wonderful weekend.

Cheers, -T

Jinx in Norfolk said...

C-Moe, weren't all the subject students in the story female? Maybe we should revert to sending our boys to trade school, and our girls to finishing school (a SEXIST would say!).

Yellowrocks said...

Wow! I worked every summer before each college year and waitressed while I was in college. No expensive decor for me. I brought only sheets, blankets and a bedspread which I reused very year, no TV, no fridge. I used the basic furniture the college provided. I did have a typewriter. I was lucky to be able to go to college at all. I didn't feel especially outclassed among mostly average peers. Times have changed.

PK said...

Hi Y'all! Thanks, David, for a hard but doable & interesting puzzle. Solved it in 12 minutes less than Friday's. Thanks, Gary, for another great expo.

56a was not "bespoke" but SIZED.

When I learned to drive in 1957, it was with a stick shift on the floor. Everyone we knew had vehicles with stick shift. My older boyfriend taught me to drive. Can't remember when we had our first automatic transmission, but I can remember a period of stomping the floor trying to engage a non-existing clutch for a while when I needed to stop and start.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Husker G steers us through Karp's PZL.

And it is a Doozie! Sometimes, when it's this tough, I'll use a few cheats to get me underway.
But this was so jammed with obscure fills, I just threw in the proverbial dishrag... er, tee shirt... or, uh, face mask-- y'all know where I'm heading!

A hot day out here in SoCal, going for the mid-90s. My friend and handyman is just finishing work out in the sun. I can't say he BASKS when the temp is this high.
After last week's fresh coyote assault, which was happily rebuffed by a passing neighbor, I have him installing more spikes--an extra defensive ASSET--on the top of our 8-foot fence.
We hope this will discourage coyote attempts to go for our little pups.
We can't be sure, of course. Coyotes are intelligent & resourceful. We will only know we have won if we never see them try again.
But we thought we had them at bay last time. And we have learned to NEVER say NEVER.
Two diagonals,one per side.
The near diag has an abundance of vowels. But we can make out an anagram (11 of 15) that refers to a raccoon in back of the boat.


sumdaze said...

Thanks to David and Husker Gary for the Saturday entertainment! Lots of erasures but finally landed on a FIR. Yay!
FAV: Hop on board? and getting ONCE IN A BLUE MOON with only the LUE filled in.
I should know better but I fell for the NICE trick for too long. Oof!

It seem like having DETAILS and DEET in the same puzzle breaks a construction rule. No?

The ORANGE Line on the DC Metro is nicknamed the ORANGE Crush. Speaking of crush and H-Gary's FADS photo. Phone booth stuffing won't be coming back.

Anonymous @ 10:15. CED@1:20 gave you a link. I hope you cross over successfully and we hear more from you! Don't hesitate to ask for more assistance. Lots of good help on The Corner.

Yellowrocks said...

Social butterfly. I find it interesting that terms that are adopted by other countries are given totally different nuances. Unlike in Japan, here social butterfly is all positive. There are websites that advise tourists and business people of these differences so as not to offend.

Anonymous T said...

@10:15 - yes, follow CED's rabbit [read: instructions] and join us "blue" folk.

Sumdaze: First, I wanted something to do with getting old & can't (or do too much!) pee @9across. Second, when HG illustrated FADS (rest assured, there are still some phone boxes sitting about), I could only think of Flagpole Sitting which I a) never did b) don't understand.

But, that made my mind leap (stupid brain!) to Harvey Danger [3:42 of '90's]

Can someone explain flagpole sitting? //not the song but the actual FAD (of the '50's(?)).

Cheers, -T

sumdaze said...

-T@5:01. Flagpole Sitta. Great song! NOT an answer to your question, but...This past Jan., Freakonomics podcast did an episode on one-hit wonders and featured this song. (Ep#530). Did you happen to catch it? They interviewed Sean Nelson.

Jayce said...

I struggled to solve this puzzle but solve it I did, somehow. Had to do an alphabet run to get the S crossing ELSA and CHURRASCO and that did it. More and more often it seems, I end up filling an answer and not understanding it, so often these days that I no longer bother to try to understand it. For example, DEET and GOSS, which I understood only from reading Gary’s terrific explanation.

Did the puzzle on my iPad because my computer is out of commission. Doing it on the iPad is a nuisance. Better than nothing though. Now I’m going to go back and read the comments from Thursday and Friday.

Good wishes to you all.

Michael said...

Just when I was getting dewhelmed, along comes the 'fad du jour' of Indian cooking! "Raita," Peda"?? So I regret to report that I am whelmed again, and even overwhelmed. (Not to mention 'ollie' and 'deet' ... I feel like I have wound up in a secret fraternity rushing quiz.)

Ray - O - Sunshine said...

Flagpole sitting: sounds painful “OWIE!!” ๐Ÿ˜ณ

Can’t squeeze FROSH into a telephone booth cuz they all gone ๐Ÿ˜„

CanadianEh! said...

Saturday Stumper. Thanks for the fun, David (greetings to a fellow-Canadian) and HuskerG.
I don’t always get a chance to do the Saturday CW and found this one hard. I required a couple of Google helps (CHURRASCO, RAITA). But I FIW with Track instead of TRACT (they both can mean Plot), and thought Deek might be a slang for a hockey deke (to show some hot goss. (I need lessons in modern slang.)

I suspected we had a Canadian constructor with the Vancouver-Yellowknife direction and the Maple LEAFS/Raptors. Folks in Yellowknife were evacuated due to wildfires, and have just recently been allowed to return home.
Ray—o- thanks for pointing out the provisional government. HuskerG had it corrected to provincial by the time I got here. No coups please.

Wishing you all a good evening.

Vidwan827 said...

Thank you David Karp, for a challenging puzzle, appropriate (?) for a Saturday.
I have to explain that I know a David Karp, who is the son of one of my neighbors, and I was surprised he was so good as to make crossword puzzles. I taught him some calculus and cartesian geometry ... a long time ago. OTOH, he is now a lawyer with Microsoft... Anyhoo.

Thank you Gary H., for your charming and always interesting commentary. It is always fascinating to hear of your take on things. Especially on clues and answers which I had no idea of.

I too, was surprised to read of the 'provisional' government ... I thought my eyes were deceiving me. It was nice that Ray of Sun, also noticed that problem. ;-)

I thought that Mars was the designation for 'prescription' like Rx ... oops, that is Jupiter.

Did you all notice that the Farsi crossword puzzle, the columns run in a numerical order ... from right to left ? Another reason, why Semitic languages ... Hebrew, Arabic, Farsi, Urdu must be difficult for western foreigners to learn.

I got RAITA, easily, but ....look at the next indian clue ...??

52 D: Doughy Indian dessert flavored with : PEDA

This is wrong or misleading.!!!

Peda is a type (or types ) of sweets. It is sweet, doughy, like a (large), flattened medicine tablet.

The clue implies that it is a (type of) flavor ... It is Not a flavor. !

A flavor is the quality that adds or changes the smell, odor, scent or a mouth-feel etc.
The peda(s) alone, itself, comes in a variety of flavors ... the picture shown and described, is that of a Doodh Peda - which means 'milk peda'. That is, it has no other ( special ) flavor ... If it had some other unique flavor, then that peda would be sure to be named accordingly.

Pedas are most commonly purchased when you want to announce a happy occasion ... e.g. you just had a baby in the family etc., ... it is small, ( even for diabetics -) and cheap and can be handed around to many people in the company. It is made from milk solids, and sugar and some flavor, and is very easy to make at home.

I am all for using foreign terms to create difficult puzzles, but we all agree that those terms should be properly used according to that language, or culture.

End of rant, ... over one small clue !
Have a great Sunday, you all.

CanadianEh! said...

Count me in the minority here who do not know how to drive a stick-shift. DH wanted to buy a second vehicle for us and had me try it out. It was not an automatic, and I Jack-rabbited it down a quiet back street until I gave up in disgust. Needless to say, both our vehicles are automatics.

Anonymous said...

Wow, a lot of “stuff” for today’s trek through the grid!

First off, I’m with the “???” camp on “electric mixer” — as the line from “Lost In Space” says, “it does not compute”. Guess I’m lost in space, but thanks to @HuskerGary, I semi-pseudo-para-demi get it… (btw, I think that’s a “whale shark” you show about to vacuum up that ball of krill, not a “whale”). The Nice resort area flew right by me, but fortunately I’ve heard of the COTEDAZUR, so it didn’t hinder the fill. Had fun with the theme hooks, which basically saved my arse and allowed me to FIR.

Stick shift comments galore! @AnonymousT, the gag line I saw was on a t-shirt, showing a shift pattern graphic with the caption “Millennial Anti-Theft Device”; I need to buy one of those tees!

And how many of you stir-your-own drivers know how to do a double-clutch heel-and-toe downshift? Any other ex-racers in here? ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ

====> Darren / L.A.

Vidwan827 said...

To be fair, I think I have been too critical on the Peda clue. I could not have slept at night, tonight, thinking about how that clue could have been a result of a typo ....or a printing error.

If PEDA had been described as::

1. A doughy, flavored Indian dessert...
2. A flavored, doughy Indian dessert...

Then I have no problem with the clue, whatsoever.

While I am on this subject,
to those aficianados interested in "very" simple indian cooking ...

Make your own Pedas !!! Its so bloody easy ! You can make a Dozen different types of Pedas .... Most within 15 minutes to an hour, max...

Anonymous T said...

Sumdaze - I don't know how I missed that FreakOnomics. I have all their books and listen (almost) every Monday to FreakOnomics Radio on NPR. Thanks for sharing.

C, Eh! Now I know (tragically) why I knew of Yellowknife.

PSA - do NOT click on Prince's spam. My sandbox puts it >80 as malicious with obfuscated base64 code imbedded in the .js.

Vidwan - next time we get Indian fare (my kids LOVE it!), I'm going to ask if they have Pedas. Looks simple & yummy.

Darren in LA (D-n-LA?) - I've never seen the tee, but now I want one too.
I can down-shift OK but never raced (though I did meet Mario Andretti once [at Blackhat in '18] -- when I told him I have an '86 Alfa Spider (5 on the floor), he smiled big).

Cheers, -T

waseeley said...

Vidwan @10:25 PM Thanks for the PEDA recipe!
Re manual-shifts -- I started with automatics but had to learn manuals when I drove a buddy's Karmin Ghia back to Baltimore from the Toronto Rock Festival -- burned out his clutch! But I later came to prefer them (I had 2 VW bugs and 2 VW vans), but eventually abandoned them: stop-and-go rush hour traffic on the beltways of the East coast megalopolis makes them totally impractical.

OwenKL said...

Sorry I wasn't up to doing a l'ick this morning. I wanted to do something with almonD OIL in the NE combined with DOILy in the SW, but my depression never came up with anything.