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Oct 10, 2008

Friday October 10, 2008 Allan E. Parrish

Theme: Festive Occasions

17A: Diplomatic dustup of 1790s: XYZ AFFAIR

21A: Spongelike plaything: NERF BALL

39A: Hail Mary conclusion?: PASS RECEPTION

58A: CNN Capitol Hill reporter: DANA BASH

64A: Crew: WORK PARTY

Somehow I thought DANA BASH is CNN's White House correspondent.

A bit of Italian sub-theme:

36A: Christmas in Italia: NATALE

3D: Italian eatery: PIZZERIA

10D: Italian Olympic skier Alberto: TOMBA

Also some baseball undertone:

20A: 2002 Cy Young Award winner: ZITO (Barry)

50D: Bronx Bomber: YANKEE

62D: Ted or Connie: MACK. Connie MACK is in Baseball's HOF.

I wish HOME (60D: Web-site page) were clued as diamond plate related. PACKS (31D: Decks of cards) refer to the baseball card PACKS, right?

I suppose the clue for DR. J (25A: Erving of hoops) is OK, but I would prefer "Erving of NBA" to reflect the abbreviation in the answer. But the clue for ET ALII (27A: & others: Lat.) is inaccurate. "Lat" should not be shortened.

The clue for TONER (68A: Salon lotion) is simply wrong. TONER is not lotion.

Overall, I did not enjoy this puzzle. Too many unfamiliar names for me.

Across:

9A: Panache: STYLE. I like really like George Clooney's STYLE. I think he should go to politics, so should Ben Affleck. There are certain idealististic "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" optimism in them.

15A: German wife: FRAU. It's QI ZI in Chinese, very scrabbly.

23A: Haggard novel: SHE. I wonder if our editor has ever read the book. He seems to be very fond of this SHE clue.

30A: Shakur of rap renown: TUPAC. I've never heard of his name (2Pac) before.

34A: Word before tale or ring: FAIRY. FAIRY ring is new to me. Why do those mushrooms grow in a circle?

44A: Tony Randall movie role: DR. LAO. Have vaguely heard of "7 Faces of DR. LAO".

49A: Hot blooded: LUSTY. New to me also. I only know lustful.

51A: 1999 Ron Howard film: EDTV. No idea. It looks interesting. Matthew McConaughey is stud muffin.

69A: Pure Prairie League hit: AMIE. Unknown to me also. Very unique album covers.

70A: Red's Kaddlehopper: CLEM. Nope. Had no idea what the clue is about. Here is an interesting clip.

72A: Ms. Neuwirth: BEBE. Saw her at "Celebrity Jeapardy!" once.

73A: Pioneering U. S. radio station: KDKA. Wikipedia says it's "the oldest commercial radio station in the US". New to me.

Down:

1D: Author Stout: REX. NERO is often clued as "Stout's wolfe".

7D: Actor Conrad: BAIN. He is in "Diff'rent Strokes". Another unknown to me.

9D: Mine passage: SHAFT. No idea.

12D: Actor Nielsen: LESLIE. He is in "The Naked Gun". I googled his name.

13D: Mascara site: EYELID. I would clue CANINE (48D: Eyetooth) simply as "Long tooth". I don't like the duplication of eye's.

18D: Bouquet-delivery syst.: FTD. Syst? I thought FTD is the name of the company.

23D: Tanning lotion letters: SPF

26D: Northernmost state capital: JUNEAU. Only learned this morning that it's named after the gold prospector Joe JUNEAU.

39D: Richie's mom, to Fonzie: MRS. C. Finally I remembered her this time.

32D: Explosive trials: A TESTS

35D: Fashion monogram: YSL

37D: Old Ford model: LTD. Or the British "Inc."

40D: City in Central Missouri: ROLLA. Here is the map. University of Missouri is located there. New to me also.

45D: Lactor- ___-Vegetarian: OVO. They eat eggs and dairy products. Are any of you vegans?

47D: Alternative to digital: ANALOG

66D: Shatner novel: "___ War": TEK. Is it a very famous novel?

C.C.

96 comments:

Dennis said...

Good morning, c.c. and gang - barely made it through without a G-spot visit; thank God for perps. I only vaguely recalled reading about the xyz affair, didn't know 'rolla', 'kdka', or 'tek' war.

c.c., yes, FTD is the delivery system.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

Dennis,
FTD is also the company name, right? Like 1-800-FLOWERS?

Dr. Dad,
The movie title "Ishtar" is related to the Egyptian Goddess, isn't it?

Clear Ayes,
Thank you for "consort battleship".

Doesitinink,
I don't know why the STILE picture did not work. I used the same stone wall link you offered on Wednesday.

Barry et al,
Theme answers:

WATERING HOLE
ICE CREAM CAKE
STEAM ROLLER

Theme title: "State Archive". Can you explain to me why. Why "Archive"?

Martin said...

Moderately difficult, partly because my son was on my lap the whole time: I should have bought a paper today and then I wouldn't have had to be sitting at the computer. It took me just over 30 minutes. I had trouble with the OV in OVO, the CK in MACK, the XY in XYZ AFFAIR and the A in both Rolla and Dana Bash, although by doing it online it only took me a minute to go through the five vowels. :)

Martin

Dick said...

Good morning Cc, DFs and DFettes..
Cc I, like you, did not like this puzzle for the same reasons, too many obscure names. I needed a few trips to Mr. G to complete the puzzle.

I sort of like Dana Bash (58a) for her straight forwardness. Here is a short bit on her:

The Medium is the Mess
Saturday, July 16, 2005
CNN REPORTER WHISPERS THE TRUTH


From Crooks and Liars:

CNN's "That's Bullshit" Coverage

Lou Dobbs Tonight, (7/15/05) as Lou was introducing a piece on the Rove story.

Lou says, "...Rove testifying that he first learned about Plame from columnist Robert Novak, a CNN contributor. Danna Bash reports." Immediately after that you can clearly hear a female voice on mic whispering "that's bullshit". Then Dana Bash continues with her report.
She then made the following statement:
"Yes I know 90% of what I read on the news is complete bullshit but I can't tell the truth because because I am a media whore".

Martin said...

C.C.,

According to the internet movie database, Tek War was also a TV series that lasted two seasons: the first season (1994) was only four episodes long and each episode, apparently, was based on one of the Tek novels and the second season (1994-1996) lasted eighteen episodes and told new stories based on the characters and situations from the novels. The series apparently ended in 1995 but the reamining four episodes from season 2 were shown a year later.

Martin

Bill said...

EDtv, DRLAO, OVO, YSL. I, now, vaguely recall a trailer for EDtv. The other three I've never seen or heard of. I guess I need to get out more!!! As for diets, SEE FOOD!
The rest came together OK, but, I needed some adjacent fills for DANABASH and TOMBA.
Otherwise I think I liked it but I still prefer Barry Silks xwords, even if they do baffle me sometimes.
C YOUALL Later!

Dick said...

73a was a gimme for me as KDKA is the strongest station in the north east and maybe in the nation and is located in Pittsburgh and operates at 50,000 watts.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


First air date November 2, 1920

Owner CBS Radio

KDKA (1020 AM) is a radio station in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and is often said to be the oldest commercial radio station in the United States. However, this fact is contested by media historians, who note that 8MK in Detroit (later WWJ) was on the air doing regular broadcasts in late August 1920. Further, there was no commercial license till mid-1921 and the first station to receive one was WBZ, which was then located in Springfield Massachusetts. [1]


KDKA enjoys grandfathered status as one of four remaining stations east of the Mississippi River that have call letters beginning with K.

Bill said...

Dick, I often wondered why a station with a K was this far east. Obviously they had the call letters before the great divide. Yeah, that one was a gimme for me too.

Barry G. said...

Morning, folks!

Well, I don't know if this counts as "the hammer" or not, but this was the first puzzle in awhile that I wasn't able to finish unassisted. There were a lot of unknowns, including TOMBA, XYZ AFFAIR, ZITO, AMIE and KDKA. What killed me, though, was the intersection of DANA BASH and ROLLA. Never heard of either of them. DANA's last name could have been BISH, BESH, BOSH or BUSH, and the town could have been ROLLE, ROLLI, ROLLO, or ROLLU. I finally guessed DANA BOSH and ROLLO.

Meh.

Dr. Dad said...

Good morning, all.

Had to google some as this was kind of a hammer for me. Tough in the SE because I put in "Site" and "Mantle" instead of "Home" and "Yankee." Also read "Explosive Trials" as "Trails" so was caught there for awhile.

I have heard a deck of playing cards (aces, kings, etc.) being called a pack.

This is the Mack that Mr. Parrish should have used.

Oh, and here's a Clem Kadiddlehopper with a good blooper in it.

C.C. just can't seem to get away from muffins. Today she mentions "stud muffin."

I thought Bebe Neuwirth as Lilith was great.

Leslie Nielsen also did serious acting. He played Commander John Adams in Forbidden Planet which also featured "Robbie the Robot (since we had androids verseu robots explanations yesterday).

Juneau is one of only two capital cities that you cannot drive to from the continental U.S. The other is Oahu.

Today is World Egg Day and National Angel Food Cake Day. Also, Spiro Agnew resigned on this day in 1973.

I don't know if Ishtar the movie has anything to do with the Egyptian deity.

Have a great Friday.

Anonymous said...

Good morning all, I didn't like the puzzle either....I like to use the "little gray cells" instead of knowing the name of a rapper. Don't know about the rest of the gals, but I put mascara on my eyelashes and eye liner on my eyelid!!!

We finally had some rain, the first true rainfall since August 13th. Wonderful clean air now.

Anonymous said...

Oops, make that eyelids.

Dick said...

@Southern belle I had the same problem with the mascara clue. I always thought the ladies put mascara on the lashes and not the lids. Oh well live and learn.

Ken said...

Good morning, C.C. et alii!
I join the general voices on today's puzzle.
Dennis, kudos to you for getting this one.
I tripped on DRLAO, OVO, EDTV, TEK, KDKA, ATRIALS and ROLLA. PASSRECEPTION just would not come to me. I got DANA BASH from perps. She sounds like quite a reporter. I'm not a TV watcher so many of TV related names escape me.

Have a great weekend, YOUALL. Mine is yardwork, prepping soil for next spring(if it is dry enough).

kazie said...

Dennis, Nice car! Is it new?

I'm also frustrated about the need to google the obscure names, and the eyelid clue--Parrish's ignorance of what goes where--and I know that comment could lead somewhere too.

I should have known Dana bash because I'm a political junky lately and have CNN on most evenings, but the last name escaped me. But why do we constantly have these rapper and sports names? First time for a while I've bothered to google so many clues before coming here.

On the topic of a word a day, I get a nice daily email that explains some interesting and sometimes obscure words each day with a weekly theme. If you go to a word a day you can subscribe. If you don't like it it's easy to unsubscribe, and it's free, provided by wordsmith Anu Garg.

DoesItinInk said...

Ouch! Three red squares…I incorrectly guessed the final letter in ROLLA and could not remember TEK Wars as the title of the Shatner book. cc: I think this book is famous only in crossword puzzles, which is the only place I have ever seen it. Or perhaps among Trekkies?

I really liked the movie Juno...whose title character was not named after JUNEAU!

The weather here is expected to be sunny and warm this weekend. I am glad as my oldest daughter will be home from college for the weekend, and on Sunday we will spend the day at the Burgoo festival in Utica, IL.

Dr. Dad said...

I can't resist so I will start it off. Egg Fight!!! Here's egg in your face, Dick. You can wipe it off with a piece of angel food cake.

Dick said...

OK drdad you started this. Clear eyes here is egg in your face mixed with angel food cake. Maybe your eyes are not so clear after this LOL.

Ken said...

Kazie, you reminded me I missed my word of the day.

Word of the day: Posse(PAH-see) 1. A large group with a common purpose 2. A body of persons summoned. "The sheriff's posse vowed they'd not stop until they caught the escaped prisoner."

Anonymous said...

I'm a Fox News junkie, so I wanted to make it Dana bUsh. I found EdTV via my DVR's "search for shows" feature. Didn't have a clue about Sumac, and didn't know whether Captain Kirk's book was Tec or Tek Wars.

Where can I find this puzzle on line? I looked at the Star Tribune and the (Norfolk) Pilot Web sites, but I can't find it.

DoesItinInk said...

jim in Norfolk: The daily puzzle can be found at this Chicago Tribune site.

Jeannie said...

jim in norfolk, on the main page of this blog is a site that says which newspaper. click on that and the chicago trib template comes up. Click on that and the puzzle will open.

drdad, here is an omelet in your eye. Just because I am an angel cake.

kazie said...

Ken, Where do you get your daily words?

Lola said...

I propose this x/w as the nasty puzzle of the month. Mr. Parrish seemed to go out of his way to cloak his answers with obscure references. I never heard of the XYZ Affair. Mascara goes on the eyelashes as previously noted. SPF is a sunscreen, not a tanning agent. I'm glad Barry also had trouble, that made me feel a little less dense. Oh well, we have Sunday to lick our wounds and ready ourselves for Monday's battle.

Have a soothing Saturday all. TTFN

g8rmomx2 said...

Hi c.c. and all,

Dennis: Wow, impressive getting through this without the G-spot!

I had to google Tupac, Dr Lao, ED TV, Bebe, Rex and Ovo. Only got Zito, Bain, and Tomba from the perps. Also, got Dana's last name because of "Bash" for party, etc., which gave me Rolla. The hammer fell for me today for sure!

Drdad: Didn't you mean to say Honolulu which is the capital city of Hawaii and on the island of Oahu?

Have a wonderful day everyone!

Lola said...

OOPS!! Alan Parrish had me so rattled I skipped a whole day. I'm off from work today which is unusual, so I automatically went into my Saturday mindset. I now am back to Friday and have another puzzle to look forward to tomorrow. Sorry for the time warp. Hee!!

Dr. Dad said...

g8rmomX2 - Wow! What a stupid mistake. Yes, I meant Honolulu. For catching me here is a pile of eggs benedict at you. Toss the eggs on to someone else.

g8rmomx2 said...

Drdad: Too funny! I do so love eggs benedict, thanks! I shall try to toss them on, lol! Let me say though that I don't think I have ever seen you make a mistake, so you are entitled! I will now check your site and see what city we are visiting today!

Anonymous said...

40D: City in Central Missouri: ROLLA. Here is the map. University of Missouri is located there. New to me also.

40 down can't be ROLLA

because 58 across CNN Capitol Hill reporter is DANA BUSH

Dr.G said...

C.C.

Thanks for the Red Skeleton clip. I am assuming that you are too young to remember him, but he was a truly talented comedian who's jokes and skits never contained foul language.

Had to use G big time today, especially at the bottom middle.

Dr. Dad said...

anonymous at 10:51. Rolla is correct for 40D because the reporter is Dana Bash.

Dr. Dad said...

BTW, especially to C.C. I didn't notice that C.C. had posted the Clem Kadiddlehopper link when I posted the exact same. Many apologies. Must have been in the capital city of Oahu (or was that Honolulu) and wandering around the beaches looking for my head.

carol said...

Hi C.C. and everyone: This was my hammer of the month so far! I have too many unknowns to list here. Southern belle and Lola are correct, the mascara goes on the EYELASH and EYELINER goes on the eyelid! SPF is incorrect as well! This constructor should check his facts before putting them in a puzzle..or maybe the editor is to blame, at any rate, it irks me.

Dennis, nice car! Is anyone in it, I think I see something pink..

Bill said...

Check out "Tanning Lotion".
You'll find that, indeed, tanning lotions also have SPF sunblock>

KittyB said...

Good Morning, C.C. and all!

I have the same complaints about clues as YOUALL. EDTV, KDKA and DANABASH all came from the perps. I only put mascara on my eye lids when I miss my eyelashes!

Doesitinink, have a great time at the Burgoo fest. I think I'll be driving Mother to Utica this coming week for a chance to see the color change along the Illinois.

Bebe Neuwirth was originally a dancer, and trained with Bob Fosse. Here's a clip of Bebe dancing "Nowadays" and "The Honey Rag."

It's a cool, sunny day in the Chicago suburbs. I hear the garden calling. Have a great day!

melissa bee said...

WATERING HOLE
ICE CREAM CAKE
STEAM ROLLER

Theme title: "State Archive". Can you explain to me why. Why "Archive"?


c.c., water, ice and steam represent three STATEs of matter (solid, liquid and gas) .. but i don't really understand why ARCHIVE, except perhaps meaning it's a list of states of matter ..?

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, I had to "G" to get the cross of BASH and ROLLA. It was a little slow going on the rest, but the surrounds finally got me through XYZ AFFAIR, ZITO, AMIE and KDKA.

None of the show business fills were a problem. RIPA, BAIN, LESLIE, MRS C, TUPAC, DRLAO, CLEM, BEBE and even movie critic EBERT.

EYELID is where mascara goes, but it was gettable. All in all, I liked this puzzle.

My middle sister and her husband and a cousin and her husband are vegans, who don't allow either eggs or dairy. It's much to stringent for me. If I were going to give up meat, I would go the lacto-ovo vegetarian route. I like cheese and eggs too much to give them up.

Cokoto, Speaking of eggs, you stole the eggs that Dick tossed at me and gave an omelet back to Drdad. Drdad quickly whipped up some eggs benedict and gave the treat to G8rmomx2. Luckily I got to keep the angel food cake as I was just getting ready for breakfast. But I'm still hungry, so I'm going to sneak up on G8rmomx2 and get those eggs back.
Now that I'm full, and since she missed the toss yesterday, I'll let Carol a late breakfast/brunch too.

Carol, Catch....here's some luscious poached eggs. Take what you want and pass it on.

Ken said...

Kazie: Why I get them from my capacious vocabulary of course!...
Seriously, I check Merriam-Webster's site, www.m-w.com. I have for years.
They also send one to my email. I looked at the site you suggested too. Her words seem, at first glance, to be a bit more obscure, but certainly worthy. I guess I feel a bit safer getting my word from a dictionary publishing firm; they have to be right.
I'm sure you're familiar with the "SEEKERS"? I always loved Judith Durham's voice. It just seemed to soar over the others in the group.

kazie said...

ken, Yes, I know the Seekers, and always liked them too. Funny your assumption that Anu Garg is a woman--I always assumed it was a man. One should never assume, I guess. I don't know which is correct.

kazie said...

Ken--Just checked in the FAQs on that site and found reference to "him"--so my assumption was right this time. I don't know really why I thought that, maybe something from an earlier email

Cindy said...

Y'ALL (as I would have said it down here) are so entertaining.

I also stumbled on this puzzle; the mascara mess-up and work party??? Never referred to my crews as a work party...where is this used?

Oktoberfest for us this weekend...so I appreciated FRAU.

carol said...

Clear ayes, thanks for the poached eggs, I love them...had my home fried all made, so put some toast in and poured my coffee...yum! Now I've whipped up some egg salad soooo Dennis, here's to you!

Anonymous said...

University of Missouri is in Columbia.

Ken said...

Kazie, I guess I assumed that Anu was a form of Ann. It is true that non-English names can be gender puzzles. I've read of some English personalities named Beverly and somewhere I read that before Florence Nightengale, Florence was a fairly common man's name.

crazyhorse said...

Hi all
I'm with most of you with this puzzle. I always get the bottom first, and then move up! OK guys I know...
My youngest son is vegan and one year for thanksgiving we had Tofurkey. It was awful
Have a great weekend. I'm going to finish staining my deck. Weather is sunny and cool.

Bill said...

Anon @ 12:16: Check
Rolla

kazie said...

I always think of the episode in "Everybody loves Raymond" when the mother tries to get them to eat tofurkey. They thought it was awful too. Made me giggle when I read crazyhorse's comment.

Bill said...

Look on the left side: Popular searches.
U of MO Rolla has (sometime in the past) become Missouri University Of Science And Technology.
Maybe Mr. Parrish or the editors weren't aware of that.

Jeannie said...

xchefwalt, I remember you mentioning that if you don't have your ear muffin breakfast of champions, you are turning toward coddled eggs and strawberries. So here are some RUNNY coddled eggs whipped your way. Better duck!

Anonymous said...

@ Bill, Regardless of the name change, The University of Missouri is and always has been located in Columbia. FYI, The University of Minnesota is not located in Duluth.

Dick said...

anon and Bill...I don' know if this helps or not but...
Missouri University of Science and Technology (commonly Missouri S&T), is an institution of higher learning located in Rolla, Missouri, and part of the University of Missouri System.

Jeannie said...

anonymous at 12:49pm I can assure you that there is a University of Minnesota in Duluth, MN. It is a branch of the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis. It is better known as UMD. University of Minnesota Duluth. Where are you from?

Dr. Dad said...

Welcome Cindy @ 12:05. Stick around! We have a blast here.

melissa bee said...

@bill & anon & dick: i looked it up too. according to wikipedia, The University of Missouri System includes, among other things 4 universities: university of missouri (MU, in columbia), missouri institute of science and technology (missouri S&T, in rolla), university of missouri kansas city (UMKC), and university of missouri st. louis (UMSL)

anyway the clue was 'city in central missouri,' it was c.c. who mentioned university of missouri.

Bill said...

All I can say is the link I posted is rather self explanatory.
In New York we have "State University Of NY" (SUNY) and there are sites (64 of them) all over the state that are known as SUNY (w/the city of location), but they are ALL The State University Of New York.

Anonymous said...

Hi All,
A bit tough today, had to Google.

Special thanks to Kazie, Carol and Dick for your kind words regarding my Mom. Will keep you poasted.

Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow Canadians.

Best to all,
Geri

melissa bee said...

@bill: your link was self-explanatory, yes, thanks for posting it. it's the same in california also .. several UC schools in different locations: UC santa cruz, UC berkeley, UC san francisco, etc.

g8rmomx2 said...

Clear Ayes: What a sneak you are! Thank goodness you only took one of the Eggs Benedict, remember, there was a pile of them. I'm tossing one to Kittyb so she can toss it on to someone else!

Cindy said...

drdad: thanks for the warm welcome. I look forward to this each morning.

As a newbie to this site, any advice?

xchefwalt said...

@Bill- Correct, as in SUNY Stony Brook (LI) near my hometown of Bayport.

As I have finally wiped all the egg off my face, let me say two things- first, you may throw all the eggs you want, but LEAVE THE HOLLANDAISE ALONE!! Do you have any idea how hard that is to make??

Now I have in my hand two over hard eggs shaped like ninja stars- Dennis, I hope your standing away from that nice ride!

melissa bee said...

i just noticed, unless i'm missing it, we are one Q away from a pangram today.

c.c., just wondering, were you okay seeing DR J and DR LAU in the same puzzle?

Clear Ayes said...

G8rmomx2, LOL, I was wondering when you would notice I grabbed some of those eggs. Cokato is still up to her egg tricks and is "coddling" xchefwalt.

It was difficult to find a poem about eggs. But we have all heard "Green Eggs and Ham", so here are the last stanzas, Silly, but a good way to show kids that it is always good to try something before you say you don't like it.

Say!
I like green eggs and ham!
I do! I like them, Sam-I-am!
And I would eat them in a boat.
And I would eat them with a goat...

And I will eat them in the rain.
And in the dark. And on a train.
And in a car. And in a tree.
They are so good, so good, you see!

So I will eat them in a box.
And I will eat them with a fox.
And I will eat them in a house.
And I will eat them with a mouse.
And I will eat them here and there.
Say! I will eat them ANYWHERE!

I do so like
green eggs and ham!
Thank you!
Thank you,
Sam-I-am!

Cindy, Just do what you are doing...jump in with a comment on the daily x-word, a comment about other postings, or an observation of your own. We try to keep it non-political (not always easy nowadays), non-confrontational and ALWAYS civil.

Geri, Happy Canadian Thanksgiving, eh!

Melissa bee, Light bulb! You are right on with the "states of matter " for WATER, ICE and STEAM. How about one of our chemical experts (Drdad, Ken, anybody else?) to help C.C. with the "Archive" part.

Ken, "Posse..a large group with a common purpose." It sounds like we are C.C.'s posse and she is the new sheriff in town.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Clear Ayes,
We do love our ehs!
Geri

JD said...

I was doing just great on this until I got 39A. I was saying the Hail Mary over 'n over. LOL Then I thought that maybe it was in Latin. LOL again. It took awhile to think out of the box.

C.C.- I did not see Ishtar, the movie, but it couldn't be Egyptian, since she is a Babylonian goddess.They would have used Isis instead.

I have all completed except the letter in 44 . Kids are researching; hard to G when we only have 1 computer in this classroom!!

Later gaters..

KittyB said...

Eggs Benedict, hmm??? Ohhhhh, KEN! How would you like Eggs Benedict for dinner...er supper....er TEA?? (Passing the plate on).

Kazie, my female pharmacist is named "Anu." I'd never heard the name before.

Ken, you brought to mind Florenz (Florence) Ziegfeld. Evelyn is another name that the English give to men, that we assign to women. My father's name was Lynn, and several of the women in my family are named Lynn.

(snickering at 'non-confrontational and ALWAYS civil') Clear ayes, was that an oh so subtle nudge at the posters concerning university names to behave themselves and play nice?? *G*

Cindy, Clear Ayes, is right. This is a great group, and we DO try to be civil to each other (even when we are pitching eggs at each other on a slow Friday. *G*) Just jump right in!

I visited my gardens. I got up close and personal with a rectangle about 6' x 12' and cleaned out the weeds. NOW, I have to go back and rake them up. It's worth it. I haven't been able to garden most of the summer, and resurrecting the beauty from that untidy mess is soul soothing.

I hope you all have a great evening.

Dick said...

@Cindy first welcome and now for your question:
"As a newbie to this site, any advice?" Have a very thick skin and an open mind. Avoid the sirens if you do not want to become a DF although being DF is more fun.

JD said...

ohhhhhhh! Dr Lao....got it.Thanks Clear Ayes.:-)

embien said...

11:35 today. A lot of obscure names, etc. I won't bother going through my list of unknowns.

Besides KDKA, another "K" call east of the Mississippi is KYW in Philadelphia. (I don't remember what the third one is).

Texas is an interesting case as there is WBAP in Fort Worth and WOAI in San Antonio (don't know if there are other "W" stations west of the Mississippi).

The University of Missouri Tigers are definitely in Columbia. The Missouri University of Science and Technology (formerly University of Missour-Rolla) are the Miners.

Dick said...

embien as I understand it all call letters west of the Mississippi start with "K" and all call letters east of the Mississippi start with "W". I am sure there are exceptions like KDKA on the west side of the river. Pittsburgh has two stations that start with "K", they are KDKA and KQV.

Dick said...

embien,

Here is some information I found on call letters.

Beginning in 1912, every country approved of and received designated letters to begin radio station call letters with.

In the United States, the letters "W" and "K" were to be used.

At first, it didn't matter what part of the country a station was located in to use either letter.

Then, in 1923, The Federal Communications Commission ordained that all new radio stations east of the Mississippi River would use "W" as the first letter and stations west of the Mississippi would use "K".

Certain stations were "grandfathered" and allowed to keep their call letters for various reasons, even if they did not conform to the new edict.

By the way, Canadian stations begin with "C" and Mexican stations begin with "X".

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

Melissa,
It seems that we have had quite a few Allan E. Parrish puzzles with either Z or Q missing. I was so frustrated this morning that I did not pay much attention to DR. J & DR. LAO. I don't think I mind much now. Only wish DR. J was clued at Michael T William's "Three Doctors" puzzle as it's one letter J away from a pangram.

Golf Gal,
The constructor's name is published at our newspaper (Star Tribune) every day.

Clear Ayes et al,
"Beans in My Ears" . I don't understand the lyrics. Why "do we put beans in our ears"? Is it a slang for something?

Cindy,
Welcome!

Argyle said...

Here's an EGG for y'all from Albany, NY.

carol said...

Hi all, sad news, we had to put Laurel down today, I am still crying. We knew it was coming, but it doesn't make it any easier somehow.

kazie said...

c.c., I think the beans thing is just that sometimes kids put things like beans in various orifices that are hard to get them out of, like noses and ears. The song is just a silly thing based on the parents constantly telling them not to --like saying: "don't run with scissors"

Buckeye said...

Gudday all. Thursday and Friday puzzles are always a drag for me. The Thursday "quips" and Parrish's Friday proper noun themes don't really provide what I look for in a x/w. That being said, I usually get them, as I did today, but it takes too long and I really don't feel a sense of accomplishment.

Enbiem; Thanks for responding about Jake's. Glad to hear it's still around. As for the Lightship Restaurant in South Beach, I,too, failed to turn up any references about it. I KNOW I was there, but it's just plain "jissappeared", as my granddaughter used to say when I made a quarter vanish. I gleaned some great info on lightships, though.

My, my. Aren't we having fun with the Universities today? To start, Melissabee is right. The clue mentioned nothing about a college, just a city in central Missouri. All references to the U of M Rolla are correct. Where I used to work, we had three engineers from Rolla. The school was basically an engineering school back then and probably still is today, since they are called the "Miners". Many states got wise to having too many colleges under too many directors so they consolidated them under one or two basic administrative group/groups. As Melissabee pointed out, California has been the leader in that department. There must be at least 4 or 5 thousand "University of California's" (I've told myself a million times not to hyperbolate) all of which have the name of the city behind the U of C label. Berkley, I believe, was the original U of C, then others followed. Many forget that UCLA stand for University of California at Los Angeles. So lets all take a deep breath and agree to agree. Me bringum' peace pipe with funny smelling 'tabacky in it and we'll all giggle and get a severe case of the "munchies".

The Pure Prairie League hit reminded me of the new song I just wrote.
"I'm So Miserable Without You, It's Like You're Still Here".

Adios amoebas,

I must be off!

Bill said...

Carol, So sorry. We had the same experience last fall and it wasn't easy to deal with. Be strong and cherish your memories and pictures.

kazie said...

Carol, I understand completely how you feel. We've had several cats over the years, one reached 18 before he couldn't manage any more. We've also had dogs, a black lab that couldn't get around any more at 14, plus others. It's very hard, and somehow knowing they were suffering doesn't help make it easier. You just have to console yourself with knowing you gave them a good life while it lasted, and the end was not your fault.

Dick said...

@carol... sorry to hear about Laurel. We have three cats, Charlie, Patches and LeMew all females and each one so different in its' own way. I never liked cas until I married my wife and she had one and the rest is history. Now I like all of them and they are great company during the winter when I cannot get out as much.

Ken said...

@Kittyb: Mmm Mmm good, but I might do a better hollandais sauce.

@Dick, what goes around comes around. I ate all the eggs but do have a couple raw ones for you. As you know, if you drop your hands back while catching them, you can get pretty far apart.
Oops...hit you in a bad spot...the hands. Sorry 'bout that.

I do remember KDKA now that I think back. I don't know that I recall the call letters, but did get a P'burgh station. In the 60s, you could get rock'n'roll from about Gallup, NM to the east coast by picking up KOMA (Oklahoma City), WOWO(Ft Wayne, IN), KDKA and ?? another from NYC. Traveling at night, the ranges of these 50K stations were a godsend to a sailor racing time to get back to New London on time.

In Minneapolis, we had KSTP and WLOL and WMIN that I recall. However, the Mississippi runs tight through downtown Minneapolis almost. However, most of the city is West of the river.

KSTP...well, duh...K St Paul...must have been a St Paul station and it is East of the river. It has never occurred to me how KSTP got its call sign. They probably rec'd their licenses before the location regulations went into effect and were grandfathered.

@California folks: You might remember XEAK, the "Mighty 690" out of Tiajuana sending Elvis over the skies.

kazie said...

Ken, Isn't all of Minneapolis/St. Paul on the west bank of the Mississippi? Hudson is on the Wisconsin side, and the river forms the state border, doesn't it?

Argyle said...

My computer is fixed now. I was told it had a corrupt modem; from coming here? Have one of you DF's been playing with my modem?

for C.C., c/w from the Oct. 2, 2008, Glens Falls Chronicle.
Theme: To Tell The Truth
by James Barrick, no editor given, United Features Syndicate 21*21

23A) Start of a quip by Shakespeare: 5 wds. - Though I am not naturally

39A) Part 2 of quip: 2 wds. - honest I

62A) Shakespeare's birthplace: hyph. - Stratford-upon-Avon

89A) Shakespeare's forename - William

105A) End of the quip: 5 wds. - am so sometimes by chance

Clear Ayes said...

Carol, So sorry to hear about Laurel. What a sad day for your family. I know there isn't anything that can make you feel better, except that we are thinking of you and Laurel and the wonderful years you had together.

Kittyb, (Smile) I wasn't nudging the "university posters". I know how important it is to residents and alumni to get their school's information exactly right! They were all being quite civil.

C.C. I think Kazie is right about "Beans In My Ears". It's just a silly song that somehow or another became popular for a while. The last verse is the kids' noticing how parents don't listen to them and must have beans in their ears too.

Welcome back, Argyle. You've been missed.

Hi Buckeye, You always have the best ideas! You are wrong about 5 thousand Universities of California, though. There are only 2,500. The other 2,500 are California State Universities. They are totally different. One costs a lot of money, has a lot of campuses, teaches on a university level, claims to have the best curriculum and their students go to Tijuana for Spring Break. The other one costs a lot of money, has a lot of campuses, teaches on a university level, claims to have the best curriculum and their students go to Cabo San Lucas for Spring Break. Sheesh, get your facts straight and let's get on with the peace making!

Ken said...

Carol: Somehow I missed your post on Laurel. Here is something I wrote when I lost Toby. Perhaps you'll enjoy.

For Toby – A requiem

In days to come, the tales I'll tell
Of a cat that's gone, he really was swell.
He'd come like a dog and play til he'd drop.
He'd roll and climb and maybe he'd hop.

Whene'er a stranger would come by the walk,
He'd run out to greet for a short little talk.
He'd roll on his back with feet in the air
As if to say "My tummy needs scratching....ahhhh right there!"

He called at my door one night long ago.
"I just need a meal, I'm hungry, you know."
A big guy was he, about 15 pounds,
Working the houses and making his rounds.

I rose from my table, my meal still hot,
For what was my food when he had not.
A run to the store was just what he needed.
I set out some food and called. How he heeded!

I left the door open that cold autumn night.
But he said, after eating "Oh I'm all right."
I thought he was feral, he first seemed so shy.
But finally felt I was an ok guy.

A week went by, he settled right in
And joined the home as if he were kin.
He spoke many words as the years rolled by.
We talked of lots, my friend and I.

He'd a chocolate face and eyes quite blue
That said it all, his love for you.
In yard or in house, he never was far
He’d sit at the door awaiting my car.

The vet said "It's cancer:" I felt the tumor,
I knew it was true, that this was no rumor.
The rush in my head came as a great din.
I held him quite close as the needle went in.

Thank you, friend, for listening here
To all he gave me year after year.
I had but one gift for him in the end.
I gave him peace. "Goodbye old friend"

Ken Julkowski

Ken said...

Kazie: One can rarely tell from maps, but St. Paul really is mostly East and a bit South. In truth, Ol' Miss runs right through both of them. However, the bulk of both cities lie to the West. The capitol building is on the Eastside where I went to high school. In Minnapolis, a portion of the city, originally called St Anthony, for which the local St Anthony Falls is named, lies in the Northeast portion of town. It is called by the old timers, "Nordeast" for all the Scandanavians and Poles, I suppose. I grew up in that area until I was 10, but can find my way blindfolded still.

Martin said...

Dr. Dad! October 10th is double ten day: the (97th?) anniversary of the day when the Emperor of China was overthrown and China became the Republic of China. It's not a major holiday nowadays in Mainland China but it's a national holiday in Taiwan.

Martin

Ken said...

Carol: PS I too, am sorry for your loss. It is so hard...

carol said...

Bill,Kazie,Dick,Clear ayes,Ken: Thank you so very much for your kind words and thoughts!! I really appreciate all of you and this blog, I feel as if I have so many new friends. Laurel had 20 years and exactly 6 mos.(she was born on April 10, 1988. I did not realize the exact date until about an hour ago)She was a truly wonderful cat; sweet, friendly and never destructive with her claws even though she was a strictly indoor kitty. Thanks again!

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

Kazie & Clear Ayes,
Thanks for the beans. I thought the song was silly, but was not very certain.

Carol,
I am so sad to hear your loss. You are such a sweet person. Laurel was a lucky cat.

Argyle,
Maybe Lois played with your modem while you were away? I missed you.

Martin,
97, yes!

crazyhorse said...

Carol
I'm so sorry to hear about Laurel. I do know how you feel. I moved here almost 3 years ago with my best friend, Brindy. A mutt of almost six years. We got here the first week of December and I had to put her to sleep 2 days before Christmas because of cancer of the jaw. Pets are so wonderful and we are theirs not the other way around. Just know that you gave her a wonderful life and did the right thing for her at the end. My prayers are with you and your family.

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

Buckeye,
Why do you call Kittyb "Beebop"?

Kazie,
I am curious about your name. Did you make it up? It's very scrabbly and crossword-friendly.

g8rmomx2 said...

Carol: I am so very sorry to hear about your loss.

Cindy: A warm welcome to you! c.c. has a great blog with many wonderful people that comment regularly. A plus is that you will most likely learn something everyday, I know I do!

kazie said...

Ken, I stand corrected--on checking the map I have of the Twin Cities, I see that the river coming in from the north, that I thought was the Mississippi is a different one--is it the St Croix?--I can't see the name anywhere on the map. You are right--much of St Paul is actually to the south of one of the curves in the Mississippi.

c.c., Kazie is just the combination of the first part of each of my first and last names.

Buckeye said...

c.c., Some time ago kittyb mentioned that her high school nickname was "Bee Bop". I lost a dear H.S. friend about 10 years ago with the same moniker. My mind is as dense as a wall, but sometimes things (like perfectly cooked pasta) stick to it.

Clearayes, Yeah, about Cal. State schools, (Fullerton, etc.). We had the same in Montana. They combined about 6 colleges under U of Montana and Montana State U. Same rivalry as you stated about the two Calif. systems. Smarter students, better curriculum, better educators. They had one thing in common, though. At spring break, both school's student body members would throw a snow shovel in the back of various pickup trucks and head south. They wouldn't stop until somebody pointed to the snow shovel and said "What the f*%k's that?" One genius took the mountain route south and didn't stop until she was about to board a boat to Tierra Del Fuego. Although she missed spring quarter, she was voted class president. She's (secretly) still my favorite daughter.

IMBO

JD said...

Carol- I'm so sorry for your loss; you must have been a wonderful companion to Laurel...20 years..you should be very proud.Sylvia Browne and John Edward assure us that we will meet all of our loved ones, inc pets in the here after.

@Ken: your beautiful poem made me cry..in a good way. You are a good man, no matter what EVERYONE is saying.

Kittyb, I'm jealous of your trek to view the beauty of the autumn leaves. I've only been back East once while they were changing.

JD said...

Martin- are you still there? Just read yesterday's dialogue. Thanks, I will go to the Wikipedia article ASAP...blow drying??? really??? Guess there won't be any pictures. I didn't realize that Innana was another "form" of Ishtar. My knowledge is quite elementary as I learned most of this while teaching 6th grade. I did take a mythology class in college waaaayyy back.

carol said...

C.C., Crazyhorse, g8rmomx2,Jd: thanks so much for your kind words, they mean so much to us..you're all so nice and both Joe and I are very touched.