Theme: Miller's Law (Olin Miller Quip)
20A: Start of quip: EXCEPTIONS PROVE
36A: Part 2 of quip: THE RULE AND BREAK
49A: End of quip: THE FAMILY BUDGET
Well, the original quote is "Exceptions prove the rule - and wreck the budget."
I think I understand "Exceptions prove the rule", but why "break the family budget"? Who is Olin Miller anyway? All I could find is that he also said "A man who will not lie to a woman has very little consideration for her feelings.”
Lots of 4-letter words in this puzzle, maybe due to three 15-letter theme entries? I just learned yesterday that if there is an odd number of theme answers, then the middle one has to be structured in the very center of the grid - Row #8 for a 15*15. And it has to have an odd number of blanks. I've never paid attention to this before.
Also, not every quote/quip can be worked into a puzzle. It has to have the right number of words for constructors to break them down sensibly and symmetrically.
I disliked the clue for SOBERS (45D: Gets serious). It needs an "up". And "One" is not needed for STAIR (61A: One step). "Step" alone is sufficient. And cluing ISLE (33A: Tiny landmass) is really a third degree felony. Can't you see the huge LANDMASS (38D: Pangaea, for example)?
The clue for LANCE (41A: Calvary weapon) is fine, but wouldn't it be nice if it's LANCE Armstrong related? Esp since we have 54D: __ d'Italia (bicycle race): GIRO. I think LANCE Armstrong is going to ride in the next GIRO d'Italia (the 100th anniversary).
I also thought "Comet, for one" would be a better clue for REINDEER (39D: Santa's team), since we have AJAX (2D: Comet competition).
Across:
17A: Brace: PAIR. Span means PAIR too. As in a brace/span of oxen.
24A: Abu Dhabi loc.: UAE. Dubai is more populated than Abu Dhabi.
25A: In conclusion: LASTLY
28A: Singer Vikki: CARR. She is not the original singer for "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You", is she?
30A: Sweat shop?: GYM. I like this clue. "Body shop?" is great too.
34A: Impressionist painter: MONET. I have a "Water Lily Pond" bookmark too.
43A: Tennis twosome?: ENS. Two letter N's in "Tennis".
44A: Bolt holder: T NUT. I rather like these T * fills: T-BAR, T-BONE, T-MEN & T-SHIRT.
45A: Is frugal: STINTS
47A: Former California Fort: ORD. I had no idea that Fort ORD was closed (1994).
62A: Sal's canal: ERIE. Here is Bruce Springsteen's "ERIE Canal".
65A: Mythical bird of prey: ROCS
Down:
1D: Stair stupidly: GAPE. I penned in GAWK first.
4D: Police officer, at times: ARRESTER
5D: Turnover, e.g.: PASTRY. I want this apple turnover for breakfast.
9D: Rebuked officially: CENSURED. So close to CENSORED.
22D: 2nd section: PART B
28D: Do together: COACT. New word to me.
31D: What Matzo's missing: YEAST. Hilarious "20 Things to do with Matzoh".
37D: Radical: ULTRA. That's TRES & TRES (49D: Very at Versailles).
46D: Greek cross: TAU
48D: Tattoed lady of song: LYDIA. Here is Groucho's "Tattooed Lady". New to me.
55D: Sevareid or Roberts: ERIC. Do you like ERIC Bana? He is so good in "Munich".
C.C.
20A: Start of quip: EXCEPTIONS PROVE
36A: Part 2 of quip: THE RULE AND BREAK
49A: End of quip: THE FAMILY BUDGET
Well, the original quote is "Exceptions prove the rule - and wreck the budget."
I think I understand "Exceptions prove the rule", but why "break the family budget"? Who is Olin Miller anyway? All I could find is that he also said "A man who will not lie to a woman has very little consideration for her feelings.”
Lots of 4-letter words in this puzzle, maybe due to three 15-letter theme entries? I just learned yesterday that if there is an odd number of theme answers, then the middle one has to be structured in the very center of the grid - Row #8 for a 15*15. And it has to have an odd number of blanks. I've never paid attention to this before.
Also, not every quote/quip can be worked into a puzzle. It has to have the right number of words for constructors to break them down sensibly and symmetrically.
I disliked the clue for SOBERS (45D: Gets serious). It needs an "up". And "One" is not needed for STAIR (61A: One step). "Step" alone is sufficient. And cluing ISLE (33A: Tiny landmass) is really a third degree felony. Can't you see the huge LANDMASS (38D: Pangaea, for example)?
The clue for LANCE (41A: Calvary weapon) is fine, but wouldn't it be nice if it's LANCE Armstrong related? Esp since we have 54D: __ d'Italia (bicycle race): GIRO. I think LANCE Armstrong is going to ride in the next GIRO d'Italia (the 100th anniversary).
I also thought "Comet, for one" would be a better clue for REINDEER (39D: Santa's team), since we have AJAX (2D: Comet competition).
Across:
17A: Brace: PAIR. Span means PAIR too. As in a brace/span of oxen.
24A: Abu Dhabi loc.: UAE. Dubai is more populated than Abu Dhabi.
25A: In conclusion: LASTLY
28A: Singer Vikki: CARR. She is not the original singer for "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You", is she?
30A: Sweat shop?: GYM. I like this clue. "Body shop?" is great too.
34A: Impressionist painter: MONET. I have a "Water Lily Pond" bookmark too.
43A: Tennis twosome?: ENS. Two letter N's in "Tennis".
44A: Bolt holder: T NUT. I rather like these T * fills: T-BAR, T-BONE, T-MEN & T-SHIRT.
45A: Is frugal: STINTS
47A: Former California Fort: ORD. I had no idea that Fort ORD was closed (1994).
62A: Sal's canal: ERIE. Here is Bruce Springsteen's "ERIE Canal".
65A: Mythical bird of prey: ROCS
Down:
1D: Stair stupidly: GAPE. I penned in GAWK first.
4D: Police officer, at times: ARRESTER
5D: Turnover, e.g.: PASTRY. I want this apple turnover for breakfast.
9D: Rebuked officially: CENSURED. So close to CENSORED.
22D: 2nd section: PART B
28D: Do together: COACT. New word to me.
31D: What Matzo's missing: YEAST. Hilarious "20 Things to do with Matzoh".
37D: Radical: ULTRA. That's TRES & TRES (49D: Very at Versailles).
46D: Greek cross: TAU
48D: Tattoed lady of song: LYDIA. Here is Groucho's "Tattooed Lady". New to me.
55D: Sevareid or Roberts: ERIC. Do you like ERIC Bana? He is so good in "Munich".
C.C.
49 comments:
Good morning, c.c. and gang -- not a hammer, but this one didn't come easily for me. Can't use sleepiness for an excuse; had a 5:00 workout this morning with my group, so all the (remaining) brain cells should be up and running.
c.c., I agree, 'sobers' should have 'up' with it. I also thought 'arrester' and 'coact' were weak - I've never heard or seen either one used.
Have a wonderful Thursday; weekend's on the way.
Dennis,
ARRESTER does sound very strained, but it's a legit word. I still don't understand the second part of the quip.
Xchefwalt,
I've never heard of anyone having PowerBar & Mountain Dew for breakfast. What is a "pull on my ear” muffin? Can you give me some tips on how to coddle eggs? For how long?
Crockett, Carol & Ken,
Nice picture!
Richshif,
Welcome!
Mark,
Ant?
Ken,
"I hope it stays in your family forever and someday one of your descendants is part of the ACC". What is ACC? I am not sure if you saw my question yesterday, but I asked you if SUPE is a well-accepted word in Navy talk. Can you also shed more light on "4 hours on, 8 hours off"?
Good morning Cc etal. Difficult but doable today and only a couple of name clues and I knew them today. I did not have a problem with sobers as the answer for 45D as around here that is a common usage of the word. I did not like coact for 28D and agree with Cc and Dennis that it is weak. Much better puzzle than yesterday.
Hope you all have a wonderful day!
c.c. I nominate you to be the next puzzle editor-and the sooner the better. Dennis could take over the blog and do it in conjunction with the paper the way JimH will be doing his blog for the NYT. You both do a really nice analysis. What do you think?
Morning, folks!
No major problems with the puzzle today. I also had GAWP instead of GAPE at first, and it took me awhile to remember that "brace" can mean PAIR (I vaguely remember seeing it used in the phrase "a brace of pheasants" for some reason, but that usage is not something in my working vocabulary).
I agree that LANDMASS should not have been both a clue and an answer. Sloppy, sloppy!
As for the the second half of the quip, it made sense to me (even though it's a corrupted form of the original). When you make a budget, you set out strict guidelines as to what your spending will be. When you make exceptions to the guidelines (go out to eat too often, buy a new television, etc.) you risk breaking the budget (e.g., not having enough money to make it to the end of the month).
nytanonimo, you got one out of two right. c.c. would be an awesome puzzle editor.
crockett, carol, ken, I'll second what c.c. said -- great picture. It's pretty neat that people on here are actually getting together in person. I think we should all pick a date together and show up at c.c.'s house.
NYTanonimo,
You are so sweet. But to quote Kenneth Tynan: "A critic is a man who knows the way but can't drive the car". I hardly know my way around in this byzantine Xword world, not to mention drive the car. By the way, that quote is structurally impossible to be made into a grid.
Barry,
Thanks for the explanation on the quip. TWO was clued as "Brace or Span" in our puzzle before.
Good morning CC and gang. I had some problems with this one today. But thought it was a good puzzle. I didn't know brace meant "pair". I didn't like "coact" for 28D. I thought that was a stretch.
Off to work now. Have a good day everyone......
Good Morning, C.C. and all.
C.C., I never knew there were so many rules,regulations and restrictions for creating a crossword puzzle! I realized early on that the bottom half of the puzzle was a mirror image of the top, flipped left to right, but I didn't realize there were so many other rules. Please continue to tell us what you learn!
I made it through the c/w without assistance. Those words I wouldn't have known came through the fills before I had to worry over them. GIRO and TAU escaped me, and I might not have gotten ENS. I didn't know, until a recent c/w that Ft. ORD has been closed. I, too, had GAWP instead of GAPE to start.
I didn't care for COACT. It may be a word, but it isn't a word I would use.
I adored "20 Things to do with Matzoh," and I'll be humming about Lydia all day! Thanks for the grins to start my day.
Richshif, I don't believe anyone has ever responded to suggestion so quickly! *G* Thanks for adding your profile. Dennis, we have another Virginian to keep you company.
How cool that Ken, Carol and Crockett have gotten together! That's a great picture!
Ladies, I will give the parboiled potatoes a try. I was sitting here, catching up with last night's messages and it was a good thing my oatmeal was to hand. All the discussion of fried potatoes and onions was killing me! *G* I was virtuous (a word not frequently flaunted here), and stayed with the oatmeal!
It's past time to get my day in gear. I hope you all have a great day!
Well, it's done. I do not like Thursdays. Having said that, no "g" today but it just seemed that a lot of it wasn't smooth. Had to go back and forth several times to fill small gaps.
The quote wasn't bad till I got to the last part of it. I guess it's OK, but, again, just doesn't seem smooth.
I always thought that GALA was an adjective. Now I see it is also a noun.
Always saw STINT as a period of time, as "I did a STINT in the Air Force". I really wanted STINGY, but just couldn't make it fit!
Don't think I've ever seen LAIC before.
And, LASTLY, FREIGHT WEIGHT clue for LOAD doesn't feel right.
FREIGHT WEIGHT should be NET: POUNDS or TONS or KILOS or something actually related to weight and not the physical load it self.
'Nuff for now,
CY'all later
kittyb, I'm in NJ, but there are Virginians on here; just don't tell him about Lois.
Good morning, C.C. and DF's.
Like Dennis, this was somewhat bad. I have heard of a flame arrester/arrestor that stops the propagation of a deflagration in a pipeline by extinguishing the flame.
Kept wanting sabre instead of lance. I think of lance as a medieval jousting weapon.
Never heard of brace being a pair of like things (or didn't remember it from previous Xwords). Barry's comment about a brace of pheasants reminded me that a long time ago a group of pheasants was called a "nide."
Today is Captain Kangaroo Day. The show premiered on this day in 1955. Bob Keeshan (the original Clarabell the Clown from Howdy Doody) was great and I once met him along with Mr. Green Jeans, Bunny Rabbit, Mr. Moose, and Dancing Bear in person. It is also National Custodial Workers Day.
Have a great Thursday.
drdad, I'd love to see a picture of that meeting. Never actually met a bear or a moose; I've been limited to beavers and clams.
Good morning, C.C. and clan. Well, I finished without googling, but made the mistake of opening the blog before I worked the puzzle. I saw "thefamilybudget." I tried to work around the darn thing so it would fall out naturally. I didn't need any letters, but think that seeing it probably influenced my choices. However the South "Downs" were pretty simple, so perhaps I'd have gotten everything without the peek.
C.C ahhh..finishing up the tournament details sprained my brain. I can't speak for the entire Navy, but when I was a supernumerary doing classroom cleaning, the mustering petty officer (a petty officer is similar to the Army's non-commissioned officer) would say "who are the supes" and we'd step forward. Also, I heard my brother use the word referring to personnel on a Navy flight who were not part of the crew.
As for 4 on, 8 off, I was speaking of the routiine of shipboard watch standing. The "watch" was divided into three sections. Section 1 was 8:00 am to noon and 8:00 pm to midnight. Section 2 was Noon to 4:00 pm and midnight to 4:00 am. Section 3 was 4:00 pm to 8:00 pm and 4:00 am to 8:00 am. Thus one would be on "watch" for 4 hours on and 8 hours off. While on watch, your duty might be anything from steering the ship to maintaining or monitoring equipment.
The ACC is an abbreviation for American Cribbage Congress, the organization to which all the players of my recent tournament belong. I thought I'd used the term before, but perhaps not.
Thank you for your interest in these items. I think I tend to forget how difficult it must be for you to understand some words or expressions we use so casually.
Good morning, everyone! Quip day. What to say? This one was OK.
Ken, carol and I thought we could sneak the picture of our meeting yesterday by some of you, but you are all too sharp for that. We had a nice chat.
C.C., I think that the last part of the quote talks about unexpected expenditures that can wreck your family budget. I find it a strange connection.
@drdad I also wanted SABRE, but just couldn't squeeze it in there. Thanks for the Captain Kangaroo info. That was a great kids show.
@ken Send me an e-mail so I can send you the picture.
Rain today. Must be getting into the usual autumn pattern.
Tschuß
@C.C.: Another aspect of watch standing aboard ship you might see or read of would be the "dog watches".
Historically, ships have had various watchstanding routines. Sometimes it is port and starboard, ie two sections rather than three. In either case, on long voyages when sail was king, the rotation throughout the day would be changed by the dog watch. The 4:00 pm watch would be split in two sections, one from 4 to 6 and the second from 6 to 8. Thus, watchstanders would be on watch for two hours for that period of time. This served a couple of purposes. One would be so that the evening meal could be served at 6 pm and all hands could eat. Another would be to relieve the boredom of months at sea staring at the ocean. On a ship standing port and starboard watches, it allowed one watch section to sleep at night and then the other section would be able to stand watch. In the days of sail, watches might be separated by which mast (foremast, main and mizzen) they were most familiar.
Everyone who's ever read a sea story knows the call "All hands on deck to take in sail." Hope this helps.
@Crockett and Carol. It was a great pleasure to meet both of you and find the same harmony that we've found in this blog. Thanks for the great pix of us also.
I had useless cards last night, winning only 2 of 9 games. Oh well, there is always another night.r
Good morning C.C.and all, great little puzzle with the exception of the quip. I could not get all of it and had some trouble with 28D (is that really a word?)
Did not know 48D either.
As to 44A: Do T-men have T-nuts?
Ken and Crockett, I have to have help from Joe to post my picture and will do that as soon as he gets back. It was so nice to meet you both!! We'll have to work on the rest of the people from "O".
(I am not short(5'6"),Ken and Crockett are quite tall) :)
Hi c.c. and all:
Got through this without googling, but only got pair because of the perps. Never heard of that usage. I had "gain" for advance, but a three letter greek letter with "i" in the middle did not work so eventually changed it to loan. Also had "a nut" instead of "t nut", but ulara didn't sound right and it finally came to me, duh! I agree that "coact" sounded off to me also.
Ken: Does everyone bring their own board or do you have enough to go around? Also, just wondering if a person misses some of his points does the opponent get those points? Never played in a tournament so I don't know the rules. My husband and I play all of the time and my girls when they are in town. Great game!
Hi y'all,
Had a hard time with the quip. Could not finish til I checked the Blog. Did remember 43a from a former puzzle.
Spelled "censured" with an "O" and had to change that. Guess my vocabulary is still not up to par; But it is fun trying.
If I could just retain what I read in these comments, I would be a very smart man. All of you are amazing!!! That includes you C.C.
Vaya con Dios
Good Morning All, Today's quip is a typical example of the tepid quips we usually see. Isn't a quip supposed to be witty? I know there are construction restrictions, but I wish there were away to get a really amusing quip worked into the puzzle. How about something from Groucho Marx?
I loved LYDIA. I thought of Buckeye when I saw it. He hasn't been around much lately.
The puzzle itself came pretty easily. For some reason I had trouble getting UNIV from "UCLA word". PROVE finally finished up that corner.
I wanted ARRESTor, but my trusty eraser took care of that when ISLE popped up. I still didn't like ARRESTER or COACT, but puzzles don't always solve the way we would like.
I liked 30D. It reminded me of Francois Millet's 1857 painting The Gleaners.
Drdad, how old were you at your Captain Kangaroo and friends meeting?
Kittb, How's your Freddie? Mine's fine.
G8rmomX2, My friends and I don't us the "use 'em or your opponent gets 'em" rule, but I'm sure that in tournaments it is a lot stricter.
Good photo Carol, Ken and Crockett. When I saw it last night I did a double take. I was sipping on a glass of wine, so it's a good thing I didn't do a spit take.
@g8rmom: We have a box full of boards, pegs, scorecards, etc for our club play. No, we don't take points for those that miss them, but we do take points for those who "accidentally overpeg." Most of the overpegs are honest mistakes, but now and then someone will try to "haul timber." We call them "loggers."
For last weekend's tournament, I had to borrow 300 boards for a potential attendance of 600. We had 534.
@C.C. "Arrestor" cables are used on aircraft carriers to stop the motion of an incoming aircraft. Also, "Arrester" cables are used in racing cars to provide a safety feature connecting tires to the chassis.
Mark - Buenos Aires
How many different "see ya" there on this blog
Tschuss
Cyall
vaya con dios
ciao
chau
TTFN
we are a diverse bunch.
c.c.
Correct = ant
"colonist appearing in Barnet occasionally"
colonist = ant
and every other letter of Barnet.
Try:
"He spouted about region of Georgia, Alabama etc"
(4 and 5 letters)
Clue - "about" indicates there is an anagram in the clue which leads to the answer"
To all:
A beautiful day here, I hope yours is too.
good morning c.c. and all,
got a good start on this one and then struggled in a few spots. didn't know laic or sten, always forget tau .. and don't think i've ever seen the plural slews, that just sounds wrong. sober seemed ok to me without up, as in a sobering thought.
i had never seen groucho sing lydia, i only remembered it from 'the philadelphia story.'
@crockett: delightful pic, thanks for sharing.
@dennis: i think anonymous might be a virginian. not that there's anything wrong with that.
Clearayes - it was the spring of 1969 and I was 9 years old. My 4th grade class was on a children's show in Omaha called The Gary Marx Show (shown on WOW TV). It so happened that Captain Kangaroo was doing an appearance at the Omaha Civic Auditorium and "happened" to stop by the TV station. The whole class was excited.
Ken, have you received your picture yet? I was hoping we could all post them at the same time, but Crockett said he did not have your e-mail addr. and I didn't know how to get mine on here without help.
Dennis, I wonder what C.C. would do if we showed up on her front porch "en masse"? C.C. are you ready for us? :O
I have often wondered the same thing. A DF party at C.C.'s place. Wouldn't that be something? We would have to bring our "morels" with us.
For you cribbage enthusiasts, I must tell you about the board my late husband inherited from his grandfather who ran the boat line up and down the Yukon in the late 1800s. The board is carved from a walrus tusk (we think), and is 12 inches long, 2¼ inches wide at one end, and ¼ inch at the other. There are caribou, beaver, swans, geese, and a person on a sled pulled by a caribou etched on it. There is only one peg left. It is truly spectacular, and a family treasure.
Hi y'all!
Great photo Ken, crockett and Carol!
I'm late today because I actually walked the dog before checking in, and just finished making two batches of pesto--it's delish!
I agree with what has been said about coact, but on the whole this wasn't a bad puzzle for me. Giro was a guess after realizing the end of the quip was budget.
Didn't know what a t-nut was, but it fell into place with ultra. Also wasn't sure why menu was clued as sushi selection list--could have been more generic. Lastly, I don't think I've ever seen slews in the plural.
Unlike many here, I don't mind the quip format--once you get the gist of the idea, it usually makes easy guessing and gives a lot (slew) of crosses to work with.
I actually have met several moose (meese?) in Anchorage last June--they wander freely in the streets and on highways, causing havoc to traffic. We took photos of some, grazing peacefully right beside the car. They don't scare easily. Saw a mother bear with cubs too, fortunately from inside the car and far enough away that we weren't threatened--she retreated, rather than we.
Mark, add this one to your list:
IMBO
Hello, all. When I started this puzzle I had "High Hopes". After the first three north lines I said "I Got The World On A String", "The Best Is Yet To Come". Then I hit the quip and I became "Bewitched". I thought "I Don't Stand A Ghost Of A Chance" with this. "Call Me Irresponsible" but I just couldn't get into Olschwang's head today. He had me in a "Tender Trap". But I thought, it's "All Or Nothing At All" and went to my A to Z for help."Jeepers Creepers'" what's a T-nut, Stints and Coact. I should have known Sten from a previous puzzle. I thought, I'll get this thing "Come Rain Or Come Shine". I gave it my "Body And Soul" and finally "As Time Goes By", I solved it.
"They Can't Take That Away From Me". Yep - : "I Did It My Way".
This is "Ol' Blue Eyes sayin'...
I must be off.
Good Afternoon,
I was ready to post this morning but got called away. I drew a blank in the SE corner, even my helpers didn't help; they just stood there laughing at me. They get that way when it's time renegotiate their contract.
Putting gain for loan didn't help, couldn't pull up stints, Lydia or Giro even though I knew them. Oh, well.
Argyle said...@Sep 30, Tue, 11:09 AM
Crazy Horse, for one - Oglala / The principal division of the Teton Sioux (contr. of Titonwan, 'dwellers on the prairie'). The western and principal division of the Dakota or Sioux.
C. C. said...@Oct 1, Wed 3:16 PM Argyle, What is Titonwan?
The Sioux are seven related tribes or seven council fires. The Lakota or Titonwan(one of the seven) are also split into seven groups, of which, the Oglala is one.
It is rather confusing and this may contain unverified claims.
12:26 today. Have I mentioned that "quip Thursday" is my least favorite puzzle of the week? Oh, yes, I have (like every Thursday). Actually, I don't mind an occasional quip, especially if it is really humorous or profound. Today's quip was kind of luke-warm, for me.
Unknowns today were COACT (is that even a word?) STEN, and LYDIA (wanted LIDIA). I also always get confused with EIRE ERSE, etc.
Back again from real life.
Hi Buckeye, It looks like you had to do the puzzle Your Way. (I revised the title a little bit to accommodate the Frank Sinatra theme.)
How nice that Carol, Ken and Crockett (sounds like a law firm) were able to visit in person. The Portland contingent lives close enough so that they can get together. Where did you meet?
Mellisa bee, Funny comment and nice Seinfeld homage to boot! There are so many phrases that have come from that show and have made their way into everyday conversation.
Sallie, We would love to see your cribbage board. How about a photo?
I bet C.C. is relieved that we all don't have her home address.
clear ayes, Are you hinting that c.c. should let us have it? I'd be close enough to drive there...in about 4-5 hours! Really though, I think getting to know one another in person would be fun.
I want to offer a late welcome to richshiff, as I only checked yesterday's late postings today. It's a fun ride here, as you've no doubt discovered during your lurkings.
I envy buckeye and others of you who are so creative with song titles.
Sallie, yes, we would like to see your crib board. I checked out the ACC site Ken gave us and there are some really unique ones in their listing. But yours sounds really beautiful. If you have a scanner, you could do it like I did--I thought it would be clearer that way, but if yours isn't flat, maybe a photo would be best.
Mark, here's another farewell...
Hooroo!
Just noticed drdad's comment about the "nide" of pheasants. I'm guessing this came from the French word "nid" for nest.
Which reminds me, I also wanted to add that I remember hearing references to a "brace of pistols" in connection with duelling. they always had their "seconds" provide a brace of pistols so both duellers would have the same equipment--or at least that's the reason I imagine. I guess I think of it as a matched set, as well as being a pair.
Clear ayes, the picture was taken at Round Table Pizza restaurant in Portland. Ken plays cribbage there Wed evenings. It was a nice that we could meet because for Crockett, it was sort of a last minute thing...I found out I could go and invited Crockett to join us. I am so glad he had the time..we had a great conversation - they are such nice guys!!
Sallie, your cribbage board sounds so interesting! I know we would all love to see it, if you could get a picture posted. I took the old one I mentioned on the blog a few days ago so Ken could look it over. It had a stamp on the back that read "Official Ballot" and some other lettering that is too faded to make out, but he thought perhaps it was made from a piece of an old ballot box (circa 1921), and I know my grandfather did have a rural mail route back then (in the farming community of Bismark, ND).
@clear ayes: thx .. argyle used the seinfeld quote last sunday so it was fresh in my mind.
Clear ayes, my Freddie is just GREAT! Well...except for a pulled muscle in is upper left arm. He says he doesn't need to see the doc. Guys! Other than that, he's a real keeper!
Thanks for the correction, dennis. I'm not sure where I got the idea that you were in Virginia. I suppose I ought to warn the newbie about Lois. *G*
Hey, kazie, and doesitinink and I would have a beautiful drive up to Minnesota this time of year. How soon are we meeting on c.c.'s front lawn?? *G*
Ken, Carol and Crocket....it almost sounds like the opening to "k-k-k-Katie, beautiful Katie! You've started a trend, I do believe.
TIFN
embien, I meant to say that I agree with you. When the screen pops up on Thursday, and I'm reminded that it's quip day, I just want to groan. The puzzles the past two weeks haven't been too bad, but the quips haven't been anything to write home about.
I must be going...
Good evening CC & DF's: Isn't an arrester also the cable on a carrier that stops the jets when they land on the deck? or maybe part of the mechanism that works the cable? Not sure. Maybe it's Dick's lingering concept of 'on 4 off 8', and the supes who sweep, swab, wax, and buff. Just somethin' about 'seamen'. Such cardiac arresters!
Gotta fly. Enjoy your night.
ken: Wow, amazing turnout. Thanks for the reply. I often wondered about that. Of course we don't play that way with family or friends and we always help each other out if we miss points. I never heard of the term "loggers", funny! I learned to play when I was 7 years old by my grandpa. Boy, he could be harsh if I made the wrong move! Must be a fun time!
Sallie: Didn't read your comment til now. Sounds like an amazing cribbage board. I also have one that was hand-made by my grandfather. It is just plain, but I believe made out of cherry wood.
Melissa bee at 11:48 am today, please explain what you meant in your comment to Dennis about "anonymous might be a virginian". I don't get it. Thanks much :)
Ken, Where does a person borrow 300 cribbage boards?
Glad to hear your tournaments don't enforce the Muggins rule We always play like G8rmomx2 and help each other out with finding all the points.
Lois: You have a good eye my picture is one of many I took in Luray caverns. I took my granddaugher to Luray and Skyline last fall and gave her a taste of caving (spelunking is you prefer). She is very interested in them and wants to see more caves. I don't think that I can do any more natural caves as I haven't done that since high school.
Thanks to everybody for their warm greetings.
If you are interested a t-nut inserts into wood and has barbs on it to lock it into place. See http://www.stafast.com/products/utnut.html
Overslept this morning so I did not get a good start on the puzzle at lunch. Seems I have problems with the quips also. Many times I find them obscure (sp ?) Pair for brace I did not know. Did not like coact and I also had sabre instead of lance. For some strange reason I had biro instead of giro and I know better as in gyroscope. Brain dead I guess.
@clear ayes Ken runs a cribbage evening at a local pizza parlor, and we met there before his function started. Carol had to bogey and I had to go sing, so we had about an hour to gab and gas. It was a fun meeting. Now we've got to entice lola, embien and carl to come join us some time!
I see carol also answered. She isn't really that short, and she's quite an attractive lady!
richshif...Here is growing cave near San Angelo, TX. If you want to see an amazing formation click on Photo Gallery and then click "The Butterfly" in about the center of the map. Unbelievable what nature can do!
-->Caverns of Sonora Texas
Welcome to CC's blog.
Razz
Razzberry, Great pictures of the caverns. Here in Virginia we have many caverns that are still growing. I have been in a few that are not commercial caverns. You have to have ropes, lights, and a buddy for safety. Have pictures from Skyline of anthrodites which are calcium crystals formed in a vaccuum.
http://skylinecaverns.com/toursandphotos.htm
CC saw this one and thought of you. -->CC (Rider)
See CC Rider, Oh, see what you have done!
You have my utmost admiration for the way you conduct yourself on the blog and handle the difficult situations with such tact.
Razz
Richshif: Luray is beautiful! Been there many times. The most breathtakig cavern is Carlsbad in NM and Cave of the Winds. A peak event for sure. Unforgettable.
Razz: great cave pix. Clicked on the Christmas tree pix and was hoping to see Santa comin' in my chimney, but, guess I'll have to wait. Then I went to the 'angel' room - it didn't work. No surprise. I'm no angel..well, I am, just a fallen one. Went to the Devil's pit and OMG, felt right at home! Holy Hot wick! You're right! It's amazing what nature has provided! more for some than others, but amazing nonetheless. Thanx for the thrill!
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