Nov 17, 2015

Tuesday, November 17, 2015 C.C. Burnikel

Theme: Float Trip - the four rivers defined by the circles do not indicate country's borders but they do indicate the border's of the entry that they are part of.

17. Badminton court boundary : SERVICE LINE. Seine (Map)

23. Trilogy with the heroine Katniss Everdeen : THE HUNGER GAMES. Thames (Map)

36. GameCube, for one : NINTENDO CONSOLE. Nile (Map)

49. Vehicles for James Cagney : GANGSTER MOVIES. Ganges (Map)

58. It may straddle neighboring countries ... and, in a different way, what each of four sets of puzzle circles graphically depicts : BORDER RIVER

Argyle here. C.C. there. Cool how the longest river is in the longest answer. Four strong column words.


1. Adjust for daylight saving time, e.g. : RESET

6. Veggies in a sack : SPUDS

11. Sphere in the night skies : ORB

14. The first Mrs. Trump : IVANA

15. Plains dwelling : TEPEE

16. "Watch it!" : "HEY!"

19. Minn. summer hours : CDT. (Central Daylight Time)

20. Bambi's aunt : ENA

21. Heart : CORE

22. __ one's nose into: meddle : POKE

28. Ballroom moves : DIPS

29. Bit of buckshot : PELLET

30. Captain Picard's counselor : TROI. Star Trek: The Next Generation

33. Eat : DINE

34. Imprecise ordinal : NTH

41. __ Friday's: restaurant chain : TGI

42. Fuel from a bog : PEAT

43. Pretty pitcher : EWER

44. Youngster : MOPPET. Not much in common use these days.

46. Mosque official : IMAM

53. __ Major: Big Dipper : URSA

54. Double-reed woodwind : OBOE

55. Here, in Juárez : ACÁ

57. Bloke's bathroom : LOO

62. Target of fall shots : FLU. Big push to get your shots already.

63. Snoring cause, often : APNEA

64. Disbursed : SPENT

65. Labor Day mo. : SEP. (September)

66. Foppish neckwear : ASCOT

67. Lightens up : EASES


1. Word from the bailiff : RISE. Preceded by ALL.

2. Happening : EVENT

3. Comedian Silverman : SARAH

4. Ltr. holder : ENV. (envelope)

5. Meditative Chinese discipline : TAI CHI

6. Outboard motor areas : STERNS. The back of the boat.

7. "Moby Dick" ship co-owner : PELEG. Captains Peleg and Bildad were retired Nantucket whaling captains who co-owned the Pequod.

8. Longtime newswire org. : UPI. (United Press International)

9. Bear's home : DEN

10. "Catch my drift?" : "SEE?"

11. "You've got to be kidding!" : "OH, COME NOW!"

12. Salvation Army symbol : RED KETTLE

13. Memory units : BYTEs

18. Clever move : COUP

22. Friend : PAL

24. Prepare for publishing : EDIT

25. Grand-scale tale : EPIC

26. Gambling town near Carson City : RENO

27. Small valley : GLEN

30. Explosive initials : TNT

31. Complicated procedure : RIGMAROLE

32. Course served in a small crock : ONION SOUP

33. URL part : DOT

35. The Beatles' "And I Love __" : HER

37. Omar of "House" : EPPS

38. Bygone depilatory : NEET

39. Set of numbers next to a contract signature : DATE

40. Round before the final : SEMI,. Play-offs.

45. FedExCup org. : PGA. (Professional Golfers' Association)

46. "That wore me out!" : "I'M BEAT!"

47. "Wuthering Heights" setting : MOOR

48. Not at all eager : AVERSE

49. Large bays : GULFS

50. Bull rider's venue : RODEO

51. Roof edges : EAVES

52. Public spectacle : SCENE

56. Partner of sciences : ARTS. Arts and Sciences is often said of colleges and universities.

58. Cry from a lamb : [BAA!]

59. Black __: spy doings : OPS. (operations)

60. GOP org. : RNC. (Republican National Committee)

61. Hoppy brew, for short : IPA. (India pale ale)



Lemonade714 said...

Another classic Tuesday with C.C. creating and Argyle explaining. The theme was fun and as said the down fill was very sparkly highlighted by RED KETTLE and RIGMAROLE. I have used the latter without knowing how to spell it (why do we say rig-a) or where it came from. ETYMOLOGY .

Countdown to Thanksgiving.

Have a great day all, thanks for the puzzle and blog.

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

No circles = no thematic joy for me. Thought the rest of the puzzle was fairly straightforward, although I always want to add an extra letter (and syllable) to RIG[a]MAROLE.

OwenKL said...

Renée, with Hamlet, by the banks of the SEINE,
Thought that the language of France was inane!
She'd rather hold forth
In his tongue of the North,
For French she held in disdain with this Dane!

An oarsman who rowed on a shell in the THAMES
Outraced the Germans by some stratagems!
He said that their drones
Were only Rhine stones
While all of the men in his crew were gems!

If ever you want to swim in the NILE
You must beware of the crocodile
While you might choose
Some Crocs as shoes
The crocs think people-skin boots are in style!

A dolphin who swims in the sacred GANGES
Was known to his friends by the sound of his wheeze!
He claimed twas pollution
Harmed his constitution,
But the reason was really that he'd grown obese!

fermatprime said...


Thanks, CC and Santa!



desper-otto said...

What No baseball? I didn't even realize it was a C.C. puzzle until I read Argyle's write-up (Thanks for the maps, BTW). Had the circles, but forgot to look for the theme. Also forgot to read the entire reveal clue. Gotta break that habit. Hand up for wanting an extra A in RIGMAROLE.

I bought a pair of ONION SOUP crocks last year. They're oven-safe for melting the cheese on top. Hmmmm. I'm making myself hungry.

PK said...

Hi Y'all! We're now RESET for this week with C.C.'s fun EVENT of a puzzle. It was amusing to see RIGMAROLE emerge with the perps. I had no idea that would appear. Hand up for thinking there was a second "A" within.

Argyle, I loved the river basin maps & pictures. Thanks. I still have to open the NILE & THAMES clips after I get done here.

I forgot SARAH's name, but knew IVANA.

I can't RESET my bedroom clock. The time-changing mechanism is stuck. I'm getting used to rolling over, looking at the clock and subtracting an hour. Guess what I'm asking Santa to bring me this year.

TTP said...

Thank you CC and thank you Argyle.

No circles at the MENSA site but didn't need them to solve the puzzle or get the reveal answer. It was all over so quick I forgot to look to see if I could figure get the border rivers without circles.

As OwenKL indicated before, if you are doing the puzzle at and you want to see where the circles are, just open the puzzle at the Chicago Tribune website in another window.

HEY ! We're missing an 'a' in RIGMAROLE !

One man's proper procedure is another man's red tape.

Avg Joe said...

Had the circles on newsprint, so I noticed the rivers as I progressed. But when the reveal came along I thought: "Wait a minute. Those aren't border rivers." Then it hit me. So, very consistent, and very clever, C.C.. It even had the extra bonus of having French and India implied in the soup and beer clues, tying to two of the rivers countries of origin.

And yes. It feels like there's an A missing in Rigmarole.

Madame Defarge said...

Good Morning!

Thanks for another fun puzzle C.C. I didn't look at the puzzle in the paper this morning so I missed the circles. They weren't necessary, per se, but they do add another level of creativity.

Last to fall for me was Fall shots. I wanted eLk, but since I no little about hunting seasons and more about the FLU, I corrected that. I wanted a make of car or type for Cagney's GANGSTER MOVIES.

Ditto on RIGMAROLE, but I think we add the "A" sound because it's too difficult to vocalize two adjacent hard consonants.

Nicely done, Owen!

Thanks for the river cruises, Argyle.

Have a good day.

Tinbeni said...

Argyle: Good Job on the write-up and BORDER RIVER maps.

C.C. Thank You for a FUN Tuesday puzzle with a great theme.

OK, again, I needed ESP (Every-Single-Perp) to get the TROI character's name.
Also, ESP to get PELEG ... I sometimes forget characters from books I read 50 years ago ... or five years ago ... or last month ... lol

Fave today, of course, was IPA since I enjoy Craft Ales and I'm always looking for booze in a grid.

Once again, I'm stuck with a Sunny, Blue Sky, 84 degree day ... and another walk-on-the-beach.

Fermatprime (from yesterday) Yes! Agent X is a great TV show.

A "Toast-to-All" at Sunset.

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

A nice Tuesday-level offering with no speed bumps, just a jolt at rigmarole. My sister uses that word a lot but she pronounces it "rigamarow" and I silently chuckle, thinking I'm so smart to know it is rig-a-marole! What a learning moment!

Thanks, CC and Argyle, for a fun and enjoyable solve.

Have to run-have an appointment with the surgeon, then lunch, then another medical appointment. Phew!

A side note: I received my Season's Greetings notice from my paper carrier this morning. I find this a little odd as Christmas is more than 6 weeks away.

Have a great day.

Abejo said...

Good morning, folks. Thank you, C.C., for a fine puzzle. Thank you, Argyle, for a fine review.

I agree with RIG A MAROLE. Sounds like everyone else did, too.

Did mine in the Trib, so I have the circles. Very clever puzzle. Really enjoyed it.

Could not remember PELEG until I had it with perps. Then it hit me. OK.

STERNS was a tough one. Trying to think of bodies of water.

I will probably be standing at a RED KETTLE this year. Our lodge rings bells for the Salvation Army during the Holidays.

GANGSTER MOVIES as a vehicle confused me a little. But, I do get it.

Love ONION SOUP, or anything else with onions as well.

Lots to do today, heading to Waukegan tonight. See you tomorrow.


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oc4beach said...

What Others Said: No circles on the MENSA site, but didn't need them to solve the puzzle. However, without the circles, I missed the theme.

I agree there should be an "a" in "RIGMAROLE." It was always pronounced RIG"a"MAROLE when I was growing up. In fact it was one of my mother's favorite words, especially when she was exasperated about something.

Nice puzzle and write up C.C. and Argyle.

Nice fall weather today in central PA, but getting ready for the bad weather that's causing the mess out west to get here.

Have a great day everyone.

thehondohurricane said...

No circles, no worries. Got thru with a minimum of issues, but RIGMAROLE had me wondering too. Until coming here to check my fills, I would not have been surprised to find an error or two. But the puzzle Gods were good to Hondo today.

Irish Miss, sounds like your paper person want to improve his/hers chances of finding an envelope from you just before the Holidays.

As long as the body holds up, leaves should be done tomorrow with only clean up remaining depending on wind events. Right now a whirlpool would be nice.

desper-otto said...

Check out About Us for my one-time employer. I knew I'd seen an A in there.

Husker Gary said...

What a fabulous puzzle! Circles were necessary for the theme and I thought there would be a bridge in the reveal.

-I’m subbing for pre-calculus today. Really smart kids are a breeze!
-It takes a while to remember how to RESET all our clocks. I love the ones we have that RESET themselves!
-In a class about Plains Indians, our prof made the women put up the TEPEE because that was a female chore on the prairie
-Shotgun choke PELLET patterns
-Pols disburse all their budget to avoid getting cut
-You’d better RISE for this judge when Officer Bird says to do so
-Our Y offers a TAI CHI class and I’m thinking about enrolling
-Remember the Apple II with 64 KiloBYTES of Ram?
-My HS best friend lives on the west side of this GULF
-It was BLACK OPS that got Bin Laden
-Irish, it’s never to early to suck up for a tip! ☺
-Back to logarithms!

CanadianEh! said...

I found this puzzle to be easier than yesterday but perhaps I was just on C.C's wavelength as I saw the rivers early. Thanks for the fun.

I had Bullet before PELLET. My usual abbreviation for SEP has the T.
SEMI for Grey Cup football is this Sunday.
I had my FLU shot last week.
GLEN today and Glade yesterday.
IMAM made me ponder the sad backlash to the Muslim community from the Paris attacks.

PK, I have a clock with the same problem in my guest room. I can change the minutes but not the hours. Almost impossible to RESET back unless you wait up until midnight, unplug and remove battery backup and then turn on. Easier to replace it!

Another beautiful day.

CrossEyedDave said...

Border river?

No worries!

Lucina said...

Hello, friends!

Thanks, Argyle, for an always cogent expo and C.C. whose prolific construction knows no bounds!

Sashay is exactly the word to describe this solve, very smooth and quick. I'm not sure though, why SPUDS would be defined "in a sack." They can just as well be loose which is the way I buy them.

In a recent trip to a dentist he asked me about sleep APNEA and asked me to fill questionnaires regarding it. I didn't get my teeth cleaned, which was supposed to happen, but he tried selling an oral appliance to control the APNEA which I don't believe I have. Next time, I'll try another dentist.

Ditto about RIG(A)MAROLE.

When I read THE HUNGER GAMES several years ago for a class where I was subbing, little did I realize it would be a movie some day. I never liked the premise.

Have a great day, everyone!

Anonymous said...

Just noting per Meriam Webster's online dictionary: rigAmarole is indeed a legitimate variant spelling of rigmarole.

tawnya said...

Morning everybody!

Did great on this one except PELEG (like everyone else it seems!). Fun as expected from C.C. Thank you for the write-up Argyle!

Quick question - is there a website that shows the circles? I'm always a little sad when the theme is circled and the MENSA site doesn't have them. Just wondering if there is somewhere else to look...

@CED - the bridge is amazing! Thank you for sharing! The simple and amazing things people come up with. I'm stumped as to how it was built...must research!

Happy Tuesday!


Unknown said...

Rigmarole is also spelled rig(a)marole. The first is the accepted spelling.

Bluehen said...

A real fun run today. It took a few perps to dredge up PARSEC and PELEG, but other than that it was a pretty smooth solve. I wonder if there is any significance to Ahab with his peg leg captaining a ship owned by a Mr. PELEG? Thank you CC and Argyle.

Hand up for always pronouncing it RIG a MOROLE.

No circles on the Mensa site, but I rarely get the theme of a puzzle until I get here. Par for the course.

OwenKL, you have been inspired and inspiring lately. Thank you.

Don't forget the Leonid shower tonight. Midnight until dawn in our neck of the woods.


coneyro said...

A good Tuesday to all.

Saw C.C. and thought "sports!", but, thankfully, she gave us a break.

Didn't get the theme until the reveal. Stupid me...Was trying to unjumble the circled letters. It was a straightforward word each time. Sometimes I make it harder than it needs to be.

Other than that, completely done, with no slip ups.

Agent X is a good show. Sharon Stone is suprisingly competent. The male lead is hot!

It scares me when I see movies like HUNGER GAMES or Divergent. Some of these movies portray a very ominous future. I don't like the way it's headed with current events happening around the world. No politics, but if the major leaders don't get their heads together soon, we may not have one. Just saying...

And that's my two cents for today.

Misty said...

I always love a C.C. puzzle, and getting one with circles was a delightful bonus, although I couldn't imagine what they'd be when they gave me things like SE and INE, and NI and LE. Thank goodness for the reveal! Many thanks for a fun solve, C.C., and you too, always, Argyle.

Count me in for RIG A MAROLE.

Owen, you out-did yourself this morning, with a limerick for every theme river. Many thanks!

Have a great Tuesday, everybody!

C6D6 Peg said...

C.C. never stops amazing us. So clever. Nice, easy puzzle. Agree there should be an "A" in RIGMAROLE.

Thanks, Argyle, for a great write-up and maps and pics!

Bill G. said...

Well, I enjoyed the puzzle (thanks CC and Argyle) but I started, as always, at the upper-left corner and it sure didn't seem like a Tuesday puzzle at first. I had trouble spelling RIGMAROLE and couldn't easily figure out some other answers such as ENA, MOPPET, ACA (I know aqui), PELEG, IPA and maybe a few others. Once I got to the center of the puzzle, things started to flow a little easier. As I said, it seemed surprising hard for a Tuesday but maybe that's just my CW ignorance in a few places.

Jayce said...

Another wonderful imaginative creation from the mind of CC! No circles on sites that use Uclick, so I didn't appreciate the ingenuity of the theme until looking at the grid here. Woo!
Argyle, thanks for the maps. And for your usual interesting observations.
Owen, thanks for the poems. I especially liked the Nile crocodile one. "Nice shoes, dude."
I, too, have always heard and pronounced it "rigamarole." Of course, spelling and pronunciation are often loosely correlated, especially in England, as witness "Mannering" for Mainwaring, "clark" for clerk, and "Temms" for Thames. There's also "Smiddicks" for Smithwick's Irish ale. And then good ole "ghoti."
Best wishes to you all.

AnonymousPVX said...

That's how I remember the owner - PELEG has no PEGLEG but AHAB does.

Nicely constructed and clued. A fun Tuesday puzzle.

desper-otto said...

Jayce, how 'bout worchestershire or leicester? I assume "ghoti" is fish?

Barry G. said...

@Lucina: I'm not sure though, why SPUDS would be defined "in a sack." They can just as well be loose which is the way I buy them.

I think the point is that, while you can certainly buy potatoes loose, they are typically shipped and stored in sacks and may, in fact, be the only veggies that are commonly shipped and stored that way. I'm not sure if there is such a thing as a beet sack or a turnip sack, but potato sack is definitely a thing!

JD said...

Good morning all,
I did not realize this was CC's creation until reading Argyle's summation.Didn't need the circles to get the theme, but enjoyed going back to see them. Unfortunately I did not recheck my answers and saw that I put gangster mobile instead of movies, so I was confused with LAVES, which should have been eaves.LOL! I just assumed it was another new word.
WEES about rigAmarole. Have you ever used that word CC? Haven't heard it for awhile. Have never heard the expression "oh come now" but it works.I would just say"COME ON!!!"

oNion soup...yum...our rainy day lunch. Trader Joes has a pkg of 2, just perfect size for a crock.

wIshing for another onion soup day,

Bluehen said...

Does anyone know why the study of weather is called "meteorology"? Interesting story.

TTP said...

Desper-Otto, I wonder if they did that intentionally ? Interesting history, esp with the tie to Bush 41. Am I also seeing a DO tie to DO ?

Tawnya, you can bookmark the following link that will present the puzzle in a bit of a different format, and will show you the circles. Chicago Tribune Crossword Puzzle

Jimmy Kimmel's National Unfriend Day Warning

Lucina said...

Thank you. I do see that about potato sacks but our grocery stores also have onions and garlic in sacks. It just seemed to me that "in a sack" wasn't integral to the definition, yet I got it.

Jayce said...

desper-otto, yes.

Bill G. said...

I originally tried mobstermovies instead of GANGSTERMOVIES. Didn't quite fit.

I always go to Cruciverb when I need to see circles and open the puzzle in Across Lite. Then I finish up at Mensa which I prefer.

Today is haircut day. Soon, I'll look a little more kempt.

Big Easy said...

After playing golf in a semi-hurricane today, I had a couple of IPAs, came home and picked up the newspaper and decided to work this puzzle. It started very easy but I got stuck for a few minutes in the NE and SW. I don't think I had ever had to spell RIGMAROLE before and I'm glad the NINTENDO CONSOLE and GANGSTER MOVIES crossed it because I was lost. I have always heard RIGMAROLE used when some body gives you the 'Run Around' or evades an explanation on why they didn't do a particular thing. I'm with Lemonade, D-O, and everyone else on the pronunciation.

SARAH and ACA were unknowns filled by perps.

One mistake in the clues: The FEDEX Cup is part of the PGATOUR, not the PGA and they are different organizations. But I did shoot my handicap today (18 FWIW) and got a net 72 at Lakewood, the former PGATOUR course in New Orleans.

Nice write up Argyle and C.C. you are becoming a professional X-word constructor. Congratulations.

Irish Miss said...

Hondo and Husker - I don't have a problem with my carrier leaving a Christmas reminder as I always give her a very generous check at Christmas. But, as Bill G would say, Geez, we haven't even celebrated Thanksgiving yet! Normally, she encloses her greetings closer to Christmas, so that's why I was surprised to receive it so early this year. No harm, though, she's a young, struggling mother who is as dependable as they come. My paper is at my door at 3:00 a.m.

I was discharged by the surgeon today. Now, it is just a question of exercising and strengthening my hand; I should be pain free and have normal usage within several months. (The doctor, who is very blunt and upfront, said today that he hates to perform this particular surgery as he considers it barbaric.). Had a nice lunch with Sis (she of "rigamarow" fame,) and then had an extremely unpleasant experience during another medical procedure. I will spare you the details but the terms "bedside manner" and "First, do no wrong," were foreign to this particular care-giver.

Yellowrocks said...

With SEINE I immediately saw we had divided rivers. It took the reveal to see BORDERS. Clever, CC. Interesting review, as always, Argyle.
I have always heard in speaking only RIGAMAROLE, but have seen in writing only Rigmarole. I was surprised the first time I read it. I believe the speakers will eventually win out. They always do. IMO variant spellings are not incorrect.
I thought of burlap potato sacks, not the plastic bags used for other veggies. Here we don’t call plastic bags sacks, although I suppose they are. We do sometimes call paper bags sacks. We used to use burlap potato sacks in two legged sack races.
Link potato sacks

PK said...

Frozen vegetables come in sacks, which is about all I buy these days. I like the bag that you can flop in the microwave for five minutes then eat. I'm so lazy, I'll probably be a cat in my next life.

Irish Miss, I can commiserate with you about the unpleasant experience in the doctor's office. Between the poor bedside manners, bad reactions to treatments and drugs, bad experiences in the waiting room, and catching whatever virus is floating around every time, I can't make myself go anymore. I get (minor) panic attacks just thinking about going. My kids are mad at me because I don't go when they think I should. I've also spent a fortune with doctors and got no relief.

Lucina said...

During my recent trip to Hawaii we visited one of the coffee plantations and in the gift shop they were selling gunny sacks which bore the names of various coffees. It surprised us to see those and we wondered who would buy them.

Your doctor and my (now former) dentist must have gone to the same school.

Anonymous said...

So, what hit you, Avg Joe? As you said, those aren't border rivers. Lame theme, lame puzzle.

Yellowrocks said...

Argyle said that the rivers straddle countries, not border them. I took BORDER to mean that the rivers were on the western and eastern borders of the puzzle.

Lucina, Irish Miss and PK, my sympathies for having to deal with your unpleasant doctors. I've had a few of those, too. Glad you are healing IM.

OwenKL said...

When you first came across these river names in print as a young child, I'd bet most of you mispronounced 3 out of the 4. Be honest. I did, even into adulthood! I'm still unsure of that big river in China!

Argyle said...

The rivers border the answers.

Avg Joe said...

Anon, what hit me is what YR and Argyle said. That the rivers were on the borders of the theme clues. It took a second for that to sink in after the reveal. I thought it was a very good puzzle. And would add that C.C. Is not becoming a pro constructor. She clearly is one.

Irish Miss said...

PK, Lucina, and YR - Just to clarify, my unpleasant experience was not with my doctor; it was with a female medical technician. I am very fortunate to have kind, caring and outstanding doctors.

Spitzboov said...

My German-English dictionary indicates 'rigamarole' is American English. So all of us speakers who have included the 'a' have done so correctly. BTW - my spell checker recognizes both forms.

Bill G. said...

A cool thing happened to me at the local coffee emporium yesterday. I recognized a familiar face, a girl from the local high school. I had noticed her the day before because she bore a striking resemblance to Emma Watson, the girl who played Hermione Granger opposite Harry Potter in the series of movies. I think she's very attractive with natural-looking eyebrows that I noticed early on. The actor, Emma Watson, in real life, is very bright. She went to Oxford and also graduated from Brown. She spoke on gender equality at the United Nations. Anyway, I swallowed my pride and timidly asked this girl at the coffee shop if anyone ever told her that she looked liked Emma Watson. She smiled and said yes, all the time. I stood around waiting for my coffee. When hers was ready, the barista called her name. What do you think? Emma was her name. I laughed and said, No Way! She smiled and we parted; two ships asea, likely never to meet again, unless maybe she needs some math tutoring...

I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.

Anonymous T said...

HEY all!

Another fun C.C. Tuesday with an Argyle chaser. Thanks both of you.

I figured out rivers at NI...LE not that it helped w/ GANG-ES (never had to spell that one). I "got" that the RIVERs BORDER the a's. Yes OKL, I probably still pronounce them all, save NILE, wrong :-)

I got to DINE beside the NILE in Maadi (at a local place, not the TGIF next door).

W/os - SERVIngLINE, TROy b/f I EDIT'd that.

ESPs - PELEG @7d & ENA @20a.

Lucina - sorry to hear you dealt w/ poor bedside manners. Swap your paper-girl w/ that assistant.

CED - cool bridge; OKL great prose. Bill G. so it was Ms. Watson?

It's late and I'M BEAT - I SPENT 4 hrs after work to help a buddy with his new computer b/f we realized the 365G BYTES backup copy was going to take another 3.5 hrs to copy to the new box. I'll prep the new box at home and we'll go for the file copy Sunday.

EPIC Astronomy Dissertation - ON ION SOUP: The Birth of an ORB.

SEE what I did there? :-)

Cheers, -T

Anonymous said...

What river in China?