May 5, 2017

Friday May 5, 2017 Jeff Chen and Seth Geltman

(Note from C.C.: Lemonade still feels quite weak from his surgeries. D-Otto blogged today's puzzle.)

Theme: FUZZY MATH - Each math term is re-phrased as non-math.

“Fuzzy math” has a couple of very different meanings. In one sense, it can describe the way a politician defends his pie-in-the-sky spending plan. It’s also a valid field of math related to fuzzy logic and fuzzy set theory. I’m not sure this puzzle fits either of those meanings. To me, it just seems to be a smattering of unrelated, but weirdly-clued, two-word math expressions:

17A. Bizarre entr'acte? : ODD NUMBER

25A. Cue from the wings? : LINE SEGMENT

37A. L.A. or N.Y. publishing equipment? : TIMES TABLES (Equipment?)

49A. Upbringing involving unhip oldies? : SQUARE ROOTS

And the reveal…

61A. It doesn't add up ... except as a hint to 17-, 25-, 37- and 49-Across : FUZZY MATH

This is another of the frequent collaborations from Jeff and Seth. We’ve seen Jeff here many times. Seth teaches computer science to grade school kids in California. He writes about his joint efforts with Jeff: “In the Pro-Am circuit of puzzles, he (Jeff) is definitely the Pro, and I'm the Am.” (Sorta like the cornerites’ collaborations with C.C.)

Let’s see what Jeff’s and Seth’s integration has wrought...


1. Ike, in the '50s : PREZ

5. Suffix for "leader" : ARCH. As in monARCH, oligARCH, etc. Had to think about it before the light went on.

9. Stopped to think : MUSED. My first guess.

14. First female attorney general : RENO. Janet was in charge during the Branch Davidian debacle in Waco. She passed away last November. There’s probably more than you ever wanted to know about her here.

15. Animal in una arena : TORO.  “Una arena” tells us the answer will be Spanish.

16. Fester, e.g. : UNCLE. Morticia’s Uncle Fester on the Addams Family.

19. Historic name in India : MAHAL.  As in the Taj. Tried NEHRU first.

20. "Millennium" trilogy author Larsson : STIEG/ The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, The Girl Who Played With Fire, The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet’s Nest. Have you read them? I thought they were pretty good.

21. "It's go time" : I’M UP (Meh!)

23. It's little when it's white : LIE. Probably my favorite clue in this puzzle.

29. Enter furtively : EDGE IN. Sneak and Steal in were too long.

31. Locks removed at night? : TOUPEE. Voted second favorite clue.

32. Curb : REIN Another first guess.

33. Reserved box, maybe : VIP SEAT (Meh #2)

40. Apt : GERMANE. No relation to Jermaine Jackson.

41. Sleazy gaze : LEER Not OGLE this time.

44. Sanction : PERMIT

47. "Open wide!" : SAY AAH

53. It's quite a mess : STY

54. Land of Freud: Abbr. : AUS tria

55. Flush, in Tijuana : RICO. Rich, no relation to Rich Norris.

56. Try to strike : HIT AT

58. Beamed : LIT UP

63. Muse of memory : MNEME. Looked really weird, until I remembered “mnemonic.” She was one of the original three muses. Later there were nine.

64. Hightail it : FLEE

65. Limo destination : PROM. Commonplace today. LIMOs were unheard of at the proms of my ute.

66. Accord, for one : SEDAN. Honda.

67. A or B, for the record : SIDE Those good ole 45’s with the big whole in the middle.

68. Figs. that are never intentionally reused : SSNs The first three digits once signified the area where the card was issued. No more. Soon Medicare will begin issuing cards with non-SSN numbers. I carry my Medicare card, but I’ve blacked out all but the last 4 digits.


1. Do quite well : PROSPER

2. Destructive algal bloom : RED TIDE

3. Writing a "Dear John" letter, say : ENDING IT

4. Lose focus, with "out" : ZONE

5. It requires a 24-Across : ATM (24A: See 5-Down. PIN)

6. Hood of folklore : ROBIN

7. Eclair filling : CREME Tried CREAM first.

8. Egyptian sky god : HORUS No relation to Horace Greeley.

9. Quiet : MUM

10. Feminine article in Italy : UNA Second appearance today – see 15a.

11. Haul : SCHLEP Dutch-German origin. I’ll bet Spitz knew that.

12. Sitcom character who dated baseball's Keith Hernandez : ELAINE Thank you, perps.

13. Insert neighbor, on PCs : DELETE Did you cheat? On my keyboard it’s directly below Insert.

18. Wrinkly hybrid : UGLI

22. Beatle for two years : PETE BEST

26. DC-to-AC electronic device : INVERTER If you’ve got solar photo-voltaic panels on your roof, you need an INVERTER to make the power usable.

27. "Scoooooooooore!" : GOAL Soccer (or futbol).

28. Without a sound : MUTELY Without a spoken word, perhaps, not necessarily soundless.

30. Baffler : ENIGMA The machine.

34. Ending for many schools : ISM Capitalism, socialism, communism, ad nauseum...

35. Fundraising sch. group : PTA

36. Franciscan leader? : SAN San Francisco

38. Milwaukee schoolteacher who went on to lead Israel : MEIR Golda, who became Prime Minister.

39. Typically five-armed marine invertebrates : SEA STARS

42. Go whole hog on Thanksgiving : EAT A TON

43. Beats : RHYTHMS (Weird letter combinations)

44. Biblical collection : PSALMS (Weird letter combinations part 2)

45. Track runner : EQUINE i.e. a horse.

46. Suffered from neglect, in a way : RUSTED

48. Hardly hale : ASHY (I guess they mean “pale” or “wan.”)

50. Jazz improvisations : RIFFS

51. Eyelike openings : OCULI

52. Slowly exuded : OOZED

57. Cheeky tykes : IMPS

59. She played Mia in "Pulp Fiction" : UMA Thurman

60. __ name : PEN The male swan has a cob name.

62. Part of a dazzling duo? : ZEE daZZling.

It wasn’t a slog, but this one just didn’t do it for me. Your mileage may differentiate. Thanks for the effort, Jeff and Seth.

As you read this, I’ll be at the Medical Center having a routine EGD – not to be confused with a GED. Desper-otto out (literally).

42 comments: said...

Hi everyone!

Thanks to Jeff, Seth and Otto!

This one was a slog, but I got it eventually. Really scratched head at ARCH. (Doh.)

Thanks for the comments yesterday!

Lemonade: feel better soon!

Have a great day!

OwenKL said...

FIW¡ Had to resort to red letters to find SADAt + PEt was wrong (thinking SEDAT-Begin Accords). And I was very doubtful about the final corner. I couldn't figure out what the fig. was, or even if it was drawing or number. But the real roadblock was 42d¡ Even after I turned red letters on, it wouldn't work as EAT A TOM (turkey), EAT A-TO-Z, EAT AT O.D. (the preposition didn't fit anyway), so I finally gave up and hit the reveal¡

The theme was easy, though I did have FUNCTIONS > FUZZY MATH. Other write-overs were suTcliff > PETE BEST, EngINE > EQUINE, ship > ARCH, which took a bit to suss, since I think of ARCH as principle or best, but not necessarily a leader, amplifying the misdirection of looking for a suffix TO leader, instead of one MEANING leader!

The prescience of the group strikes again with ATM/PIN.

TTP said...

Good morning all.

Thank you Jeff and Seth.

Speedy in spots, but couldn't maintain the early pace. Got the reveal before getting the last of the theme answers, SQUARE ROOTS. It helped break the logjam in the south.

Great job pinch hitting Desper-otto. "It's go time. You're up."

Like an ace backup quarterback filling in for the injured starter, you came in from the sidelines and led the team. Next man up. You should get the sixth man of the year award. You came off the bench and did a fine job as a reliever. Let's see, any more sports-related sub analogies for D-O ?

Guessed the H for HORUS and ARCH.
Starfish before seastars.
Pet name before pen name.

Fester as a verb or a proper noun ? Perps made that clear.

Yes, I saw UNA in an answer and in the clue. Yes, I saw MUSED in an answer and muse in a clue. Yes, I saw IT in an answer and in a clue. Mox nix.

Hand up for cream.

46D: Suffered from neglect, in a way : RUSTED. Like my golf game.

Big Easy said...

The FUZZY MATH and most of the puzzle filled slowly, except the NE, which remained white. 13D- I did fill DELETE, but that was a guess. In Word and Excel, FORMAT is the "Insert neighbor' on the screen. On my two keyboards, PRINT SCREEN, HOME, F12 are the Insert neighbors.

HORUS, MNEME, STIEG- unknowns filled by perps. MAHAL, ELAINE- unknowns that I did NOT get. TOUPEE- would have never gotten that one. Also filled NEHRU but it didn't help. I had a bad 'spell' in the center, misspelling GERMANE as GERMAIN until the unlucky ex-Beatle took care of it.

C.C., let's hope the doc finds nothing on your 'routine' endoscope test. My 'routine' scope on the other end found nothing.

Jinx in Norfolk said...

I liked today's grid, even though it BESTed me. Googled STIEG and HORUS and still got ZEE wrong (I had FLEw for 64a). Didn't understand it until D-O gave me a "doh" moment.

Erased Out for ODD at 17a, Ease IN FOR EDGE IN, honda for SEDAN, CREam for CREME and edu for ISM.

D-O, I'm OK with "table" being publishing equipment, along with desks, lamps and eyeshades. My mom worked at the local paper and spent a lot of time at her table. In those days, "cut and paste" meant just that.

Thanks to Jeff and Seth for a fun but crunchy puzzle. And to D-O for pinch-hitting and creating a fine expo. Hope Lemony feels better very soon.

Jinx in Norfolk said...

Big Easy - Look at the number section of your keyboard. When numlock is off, INS and DEL are just to the left of the ENTER key.

Hungry Mother said...

Had "I'm in" instead of IMUP, and somehow kept it in spite of getting "Nete" as a first name. Another DOH.

Anonymous said...

Finished in 22-23 minutes, but this one felt like it took an hour. The theme didn't seem to be, um, thematic of the puzzle, and many of the non-"theme" entries weren't rewarding ("hitat" "Imup" "sayaah" "Aus"). I did enjoy the unusual consonant pairings ("mneme" "schlep" "rhythms".

BunnyM said...

Good morning all

Like Desper-otto, I felt a little "meh" about this one. I didn't feel that the reveal answers quite jibed with the FUZZYMATH theme. However, overall I enjoyed the puzzle . It was cleverly clued with lots of nice fill, so thank you Jeff and Seth.

Thanks for subbing today D-otto! Nice work :) Hope your test results are good. Not a fun way to spend a morning.
Lemonade- hope you feel better soon. The road to recovery can be long and bumpy- wishing you a smooth ride from here on out.

I didn't cheat with DELETE - just a good WAG. I knew STIEG as I've read his books and enjoyed them a lot.
Hand up for Cream/CREME and like Jinx, had EDU/ISM and Ease/EDGEIN.

ARCH threw me for awhile as did VIPSEAT- had Top Seat.
MNEME and HORUS were gotten via perps.

Favorite clever clues were for LIE, TOUPEE, SIDE and SAN.

Learning moment was Golda MEIR being a schoolteacher from Milwaukee.

We certainly didn't take a limo to PROM 31 years ago. I went with my now DH on a double date. He drove us in his Chevy Cavlier and dinner was at the house of the other girl in our party. Her Mom made lasagna and she and other family members "waited" on us like we were at a restaurant. It was actually quite a fun evening :) I'm amazed at how much kids spend today on prom. I think we spent less on our wedding than what some spend on going to a dance!

We will need an ark soon if this rain doesn't let up. The wind is crazy too and poor Albus is a wreck. I was able to lure him out for a short walk this morning by putting his doggie raincoat on him. He refuses to wear the hood but I guess as long as his back is dry, he's happy. Which makes me and my back happy not having to carry him out to the yard in a downpour.

Chairman Moe- I'm so sorry about the passing of your dear Uncle Bub. Sounds like he was a good man and will be greatly missed. My thoughts are with you and your family.

Hope everyone has a wonderful day and that it's sunny and dry where you are!

Yellowrocks said...

I really liked the challenge of this one. FIR, though it took quite a while. The reveal was helpful. Fuzzy was used in the sense of confused or indistinct definitions for math terms. Very punny. No nit with this.

Today we have another word that has almost opposite senses. SANCTION in the sense of giving a penalty for something disapproved and also in the sense of giving official approval. The context is needed here.

SCHLEP, from our Jewish neighbors, is used frequently by many non-Jews here. It is an entry in most dictionaries.
Yes, I have read those three Stieg novels. They are fairly violent, but I enjoyed them.
On my keyboard INSERT and DELETE are in my Table Tools.
Unknowns were ELAINE and INVERTER. I needed crosses to spell MNEME.

DO, thanks for subbing. Good job! Lemon, healing thoughts to you for a quick recovery.

Husker Gary said...

-Fabulous cluing (I second D-O), a great theme and math? It doesn’t get any better!
-C.C. a PRO and me an AM? I resemble that remark!
-Kids are on computers and I am listening to The Mamas and Papas. Life is good
-Elian and Waco were “no-win” situations for RENO
-MUSED was a given for me because… See above (everyday)
-A great Lloyd Bridges line on Seinfeld
-Anyone who has supervised a school lunch line knows about EDGE IN
-FUZZY MATH keeps Congress from REINING in spending
-After refusing the draft, ALI wasn’t PERMITTED to fight for 3 years during which his skills RUSTED
-RED ALGA at our Fremont State Lakes in 2013 made posting these signs necessary
-An senior girl confided in me about a tattoo she got but asked me to stay MUM about it to her family who I know well
-Keith, “I plan on rounding third and getting to home plate tonight around 10!” Elaine, “I’d look at your 3rd base coach, he ain’t waving you in!”
-Stu Sutcliffe and PETE BEST left for greener pastures. Who knew?

Spitzboov said...

Good morning everyone.

Just not on the authors' wavelength today, so dnf.
I think SCHLEP crept into our language via the Yiddish, which draws a lot from the German,
SCHLEPPER is German for tugboat, so the roots seem to agree with D-O's point. The verb schleppen means more, to drag or tow, than haul.

Abejo said...

Good morning, folks. Thank you, Jeff Chen and Seth Geltman, for a fine puzzle. Thank you, Desper-otto, for a fine review.

The puzzle was fine, but the theme was FUZZY.

STIEG was unknown. Perps.

Tried CREAM first, CREME won that battle.

HORUS was easy once I had the ORUS.

I had the P and PSALMS just jumped out at me.

I knew GOLDA MEIR was from this country, and from Milwaukee. Did not know she was school teacher. If I remember right, she was assassinated.

MNEME was unknown, but MNEMONIC is a word I am very familiar with. All of our telephone equipment was labelled with MNEMONICS. To help us remember what is was used for.

SEA STARS was tough. I had all the letters but the two end S's. I plugged them in and wallah!

PETE BEST was a lot of perps.

Get well Lemonade.

See you tomorrow.


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MJ said...

Good day to all!

I found this to be an enjoyable offering from Jeff and Seth. Saw that all the theme answers were math related, but was unfamiliar with the term FUZZY MATH. Favorite clue/answer was "It's little when it's white" for LIE. Great job pinch hitting (pinch blogging?) D-Otto. Feel better soon, Lemonade. You too, Fermatprime.

Enjoy the day!

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

I found this to be one of the more difficult Friday puzzles in quite some time. I did finish w/o help but it took an inordinate amount of time. I'm not sure if it was the cluing, the theme, or just plain "fuzzy brain" on my part. I, too had cream/creme, edu/ism, Honda/sedan, and Erato/Mneme, even though I felt it was incorrect. Needed perps for Elaine as I've never watched "Seinfeld" and Arch was slow in coming as I saw suffix as prefix. (Don't ask!)

Thanks, Jeff and Seth, for the brain-buster and thanks, DO, for an successful pinch-hitting performance; well done! Better days ahead, Lemony; get well soon!

BunnyM, steer that ark in our direction as we're going to need it, too, if the forecast is correct. I think we're getting rain every day for the next week with maybe one rain-free day. (I feel bad for poor Albus.)

YR, I had the exact same thoughts regarding Sanction. Our language is never boring, to say the least.

Our "limo" to the prom was the relative who was kind enough to drive us to the venue, kill a few hours waiting, then come back and pick us up and bring us back home.

I read the first Stieg "The Girl Who....." and half of the second and then gave up because of the violence and deviancy. I stopped watching "Criminal Minds" years ago for the same reason.

Chairman Moe, sorry to hear of your loss of Uncle Bud. Everyone should have an Uncle Bud or an Aunt Betty in their lives, a guiding light, so to speak.

Have a great day.

PK said...

Hi Y'all! Not a warm FUZZY puzzle but thanks, Jeff & Seth! Bravo, D-Otto! Hope your EGD is good news. I had to google EGD. Never saw the term before.

Abejo: Golda Meir died of leukemia in Jerusalem. I had to google that too. I was sure she wasn't assassinated.

I got ODD NUMBER at once, but couldn't get the 2nd half of LINES, TIMES, or SQUARE until MATH perped up. Then it took a while to come up with FUZZY. Difficulty about usual for Thursday.

42d Wanted EAT A ham -- only way I could go "whole hog".

PROM: No limo for my generation. I paid $15 (my whole month's allowance) for a 2nd hand baby blue strapless formal with a very full skirt with yards of net ruffles. Getting it in a car or under a table was a major undertaking. This year my granddaughter's baby blue prom dress had rhinestones and beading all over the bodice and cost a bit more than $15, I betcha. The boys didn't wear tuxes in my day even to get married.

IMAC doesn't seem to have an insert button. ESP

Bill G said...

I enjoyed the puzzle. I got really stumped trying to figure out ARCH and UNCLE for Fester. Too tricky for my solving ability. Still fun though...

Thanks Jeff, Seth and D-O.

I like Lavender. Soap, lotion, potpourri, etc.

I don't think I was ever in a limo until we were into our 30s. I wore a suit to our prom. I wish I had had the nerve to ask a girl I really cared about. I spent much of my high school years almost socially petrified by fear of rejection. I either needed to become more popular somehow or develop a thicker skin.

I saw an advertisement for Mother's-Day-brunch at a local restaurant. $29 for kids and $64 for adults. Geez...

If you can't tie good knots, tie plenty of them.
-Yachtsman's Credo

CrossEyedDave said...


Fuzzy math of yesteryear...

Fuzzymath of today?

(I'll be back if I can find fuzzy math of tomorrow...)

Bluehen said...

WDOS re: the puzzle, though I give the constructors props because I couldn't devise a crossword puzzle if my soul depended on it. Favorite clues/answers were little white lies and square roots. That last one hit awfully close to home.

Thanks for the explanation and history lesson on the galantine dish, Steve. Makes sense when you think about it, which I obviously didn't.

Get well soon, Lemonade 714 and Fermatprime and all others hurting. Although I can commiserate, I'm personally better than I have been for a long time. Cardiologist pronounced me as healthy as a horse after putting me through a very thorough battery of very expensive heart tests. Yippee!

Happy Cinquo de Mayo for those who observe. In honor of the day and for "Fishy Friday" we are having tilapia enchiladas with frijoles refritos, arroz amarillo, and taos succotash (my own concoction of fresh corn when available, peppardos, diced jalapenos, and frijoles negros). Tomorrow of course we are hosting our annual Kentucky Derby party featuring Hot Brown sandwiches and Makers Mark Mint Juleps. Can't wait, but I better get back to cooking. Cya!

Bluehen said...

Woops. I just checked the jar. Make that peppadews.

Misty said...

Not too bad for a Friday puzzle, which has been getting pretty hard for me in the last few months. But I got most of this one without any problem except for the northeast, which finally required cheating. I kept wanting NEHRU for historic Indian name and wasn't thinking of a building. And of course I read FESTER as a verb, not as a character in a sitcom, although I used to love that show. I liked the clue about Freud's AUStria, my home country,and I once got to tour Freud's apartment in Vienna on a visit there. I didn't realize Janet RENO was gone, RIP. Liked the misleading cue for Accord--SEDAN. Lots of fun doing the puzzle--many thanks, Jeff and Seth. And you too, Desper-otto, for subbing for Lemonade. Hope you test goes well, and hope you get better soon Lemonade.

Have a great day, everybody!

CanadianEh! said...

Well, this CW was above my paygrade, but it is Friday. Thanks for the fun, Jeff and Seth, and for subbing, D-otto (and explaining ARCH). I resorted to red letters and a couple of Google helps to finish which does lessen the enjoyment.

Hand up for Nehru before MAHAL and Edu before ISM. I had Tots before IMPS, EFF before SAN (yes Franciscan starts with an Eff!), At bat before HIT AT, Eat a Lot before EAT A TON, etc.
But this Canadian knew enough American to put ZEE and not ZED!!!
GOAL can also refer to hockey (but we say, "He shoots, he scooooores!").

Clever clues for ATM and PIN, and SSNS.
I had Achy before ASHY and agree with meh!
I also agree with the meh for VIP SEAT (plus there was nothing in the clue to indicate abbreviation).

I debated between AUS and AUT for Austria. The Iso Alpha 3 Code used for international events is AUS for Australia and AUT for Austria. (small nit)

We too are getting more rain and it is to continue all weekend. All waterways are getting high and sump pump is working overtime.

Happy Cinco de Mayo!

Anonymous T said...

Pulling a CED... If you didn't think of this at TOUPEE, you will from now on.

Play later. -T

Yellowrocks said...

Schlep is indeed Yiddish,from which it moved into the mainstream vernacular. Schlep can mean toting something burdesome or making a difficult jounrney. Noun or verb. The Penn Station's rail problems make my son's schlep into NYC and home again an hour or two longer most days. When we used to tent camp we schlepped a lot of equipment with us. I just gave away my tent and screen house. Oy vey. I will always treasure so many happy memories of those days. We get too soon old.

I have to constantly evaluale Alan's state of health. How hale is he? I believe ashy is a good word to describe an unhealthy pallor. He is extremely anxious about his endoscopy this Tuesday, so much so he missed work today. He is not ashy, just shaky and headachy.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Yeah, now this was just the kind of Xwd I yearn for, where I really think I'll need to cheat to get a finish but by sheer stubbornness I manage to work it out to the last square.
My thanks to Messrs. Chen & Geltman. A neat theme - one that truly helped - and some pleasant trickiness. I was troubled a mite by ARCH as a suffix because my initial response was to think of it only as a prefix, as in ARCHangel and ARCHbishop. But it serves on either end of its subject.
Elsewhere I had FIB before LIE and HONDA before SEDAN. No real probs.

Major takeaway was MNEME. I'm sure I learned of her years ago along with sister muses. But my own memory was undermined by Oblivion. I am not sure whether the Greeks had a Muse or (Anti-Muse?) for Forgetfulness, but they should have. She factors into so many of life's conflicts and misunderstandings.
One of my favorite mythic tales is that of Cassandra. Apollo tried to woo her by giving her the gift of Prophecy. When she ditched him, he cursed her by arranging that no one who heard her prophetic words would believe her. Sometimes that meant they would instantly Forget what she said.
There she was, hard at work, dear Oblivion.

CanadianEh! said...

I was reminded by OPEN WIDE that I had not had a chance to read the rest of the comments from yesterday. There were many interesting dental experiences!

Thanks for the many comments about my CSO with TOONIE.
Argyle, my vote for the name if we ever get a $5 coin is FOONIE!
AnonT, LOL, was that my Loonie/Toonie quote from a past blog?

Misty, I hope you have a wonderful time at your Joyce conference in Toronto in June.
In what part of the city will the conference be located? Any excursions?
You will be happy when you exchange your American dollar for a Canadian loonie that you receive around $1.25 to $1.30. (Assuming that you make the exchange at a bank etc. as restaurants, stores may not give quite as much.)

Wishes for improved health to Lemonade, fermatprime.
Hope the EGD went well, D-O.
Wishes for calm for Alan, YR.
Condolences to Chairman Moe on the passing of his Uncle Bud.

AnonymousPVX said...

Another gimmick/theme puzzle complete with the strained clueing and the ridiculous answers. I don't know who likes these, I know I do not.


CrossEyedDave said...

Still looking for funny future fuzzy math...

A very abstract possibility

Hmm, what is old comes round again?

Oh, I give up!

desper-otto said...

I'm happy to report that the EGD (endoscopy, YR) was no big deal. The worst part of it was the traffic jam caused by an overturned 18-wheeler on the way in. Still wasn't cleared up, so we had to make a 12-mile detour to avoid it on the way home. Don't remember a thing about the procedure, itself. Probably just as well. You're in a semi-dark room, almost naked, they're pumping drugs into you, and they're snapping pictures! Oh, the horror!

Jayce said...

Jeff Chen beat me again. He always does.

Unknown said...

I only got Stieg from the books sitting right in front of me on the bookshelf. I guess that's sort of a cheat. He was a great mystery writer and the translations must be outstanding. NO TADA though. Had everything with the exception of the intersection of SHLEP and Mahal ! Which is doubly bad as I know about 30 Yiddish words including schlep. I guess the problem is that I only know them orally. And I was fixated on a persons name not a place. I have a nit with "equine. It seems to me that equine means having to do with horses not the noun.

Too much TV as a kid...Fester brought to mind Uncle immediately.

Be well everyone. I have been poked a prodded for 6 years and though some tests are worse than others none of them are any fun.

BTW...if Anon doesn't like the xwords...why does he do them ???

Unknown said...

Oh...and reading the comments I DID have an Uncle Bud. He was a career a joke put three year old me in the alcoholic and a proud graduate of "Jackson State" ( Michigan's prison). He had three bullet scars in his abdomen. He claimed to be part of the " purple gang" during the depression. Who knows? I bet there is a book in there someplace.

He also stole my Dad's coin collection. Dang...I haven't thought of him in forty years !

Misty said...

CanadianEh, the flyer says that the conference will be held "in the heart of Toronto, at the intersection of Bloor Street and Avenue road." I have no idea where that is. I think we're booked to stay at a Holiday Inn Hotel on Bloor Street. Let me know if you're in the area, and maybe we can have a cup of coffee! It would be great to meet you.

Anonymous T said...

Done in by a cheat (HORUS) and bad square [why not a J in RIjO, there's one in Baj{h}a].

Thanks Jeff & Seth... While the MATH doesn't add up, the punny c/a's made it easy puzz'lin' in nerdville.

Thanks for the fun Expo DO. I now 'get' 51d [sans J] thanks to your picture. Glad to hear all went well with the procedure and things were normal - including Houston's 59/I69 traffic :-)

WOs: I t'aught I saw a clecho-tat... Naw, I just filled MONK for 38d 'cuz I read 36d's clue. SAY, AAHbout those +1 specs optometrist said I needed...
ESPs: PIN & ATM - duh! That one took a long time for the penny, er, $20, to drop.

Fav: SCHLEP. That's such a fun word.

On 13d - could'a been Page Up but 9a was past tense so I went with DELETE.
DO: I liked "I'M UP" - I pictured a comedian behind the stage-curtain being announced - It's Go Time; time to turn it on; IM UP.
TIMES TABLES were the bane of my 6th grade. We had to do 50 in 2min w/o error; I couldn't MNEMonic-ize 'em all (6x8;7x6 - I always mixed up). I missed recess for a month until I got it right. [I'd derive everything from my SQUARES and do arithmetic from there - not speedy]
Limos on PROM? - No, I think we all piled in Greg's Lincoln. Missed the dance; but DW and I have been together since. For people I know [mostly under 40], this is quaint.


C, Eh! - I looked at your link (FLN) to the new $10CA and that story came back to me. It was a UK bloke -- we met at CanSecWest and became 'mates' over multiple pints --that said that. But I'm sure all US visitors have the same thoughts about our dough.

Jayce - I hear ya' bro. Jeff Chen always gets me - maybe Seth REIN'd him in today :-)

All the talk of Toronto... Misty, C, Eh! (BunnyM) - Mystic RHYTHMS [RUSH].

Let's see if I can pull out Tawnya with another TOUPEE, Purple, 1ea. [TMBG]

There. That's a proper post unlike @3:38. Right CED? //Joking - I loved the Houston word problem!

Cheers, -T

Bill G said...

'Loved the Houston word problem.' Me too!

The metric system did not really catch on in the United States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the 9 millimeter bullet.
~ Dave Barry

CanadianEh! said...

Misty, i found your conference. Victoria College is part of U of T (of which I am an alumna) and has beautiful old buildings. You are also not far from Yorkville which was hippie haven inthe 60s but now is a very trendy expensive shopping area. Toronto should be lovely at the end of June. Do you have any side trips? I don't have any plans to be in Toronto at that time but will let you know if anything changes.

AnonT, I laughed at your "American bills all look the same" story. I have said exactly the same thing. On the other hand, I have heard our multi-coloured bills called funny money. There are even stories of Canadian Tire money being pawned off on unsuspecting American tourists,

Anonymous T said...

C, Eh! - Sheepish hand-up for calling foreign currency "Monopoly Money." In reality, all bills are accepted on faith they can later be traded for goods/services. I have monies from all over; the Egyptian Pound (1/7th USD) is the coolest - it's got Pyramids! And, I'm assuming, HORUSi [that's plural, eh?]

You made me look: Tire Money. Selling to unsuspecting visitors? A sucker is born and a TOONIE made. :-)

Bill G - In EE we only dealt w/ the metric system. Again, knowing my SQUARES [formulae, say in Joules] could I get through Thermo - they still dealt in 'merican. I'd have to convert US->Metric and INVERT Metric->US to solve.

Cheers, -T

Anonymous T said...

Tried 2x and I'm still ambiguous on 'spainin' to Bill G...
At school, for homework or during an exam, I'd convert US->Metric, regurgitate the formula, do the math get the 'answer' and then INVERT Metric->US for the final turn-in to the Prof. Thermodynamics and the Civil E courses were still taught in Imperial Units in the late '80s. I guess I should have leant IU 'cuz my AC-unit is measured in BTUs [whatever that means :-)].

Now, 9mm, I knows that! Thanks, I enjoy Dave Barry's writings. Cheers, -T

Bill G said...

Hey T, I majored in Engineering Physics (until it overwhelmed me) and then EE. We constantly used metric units too. Being based on 10, they made the arithmetic much easier. Still, our good ol' feet, inches, pounds, etc. were very intuitive. There is something very natural and comfortable about dividing units in half, then half again, etc.

P.S. Dave Barry is the only author that can consistently make me laugh out loud.

Red meat is NOT bad for you. Now, blue-green meat, that's REALLY BAD for you.
~ Tommy Smothers

Wilbur Charles said...

According to Elvis the purple gang was the RYTHYM section of that jailhouse Rock band.
I should have noticed Jeff Chen's nane while I was slogging through. I did manage to get 100%.
Lemony and Fermatprime, hope things go well. D-Otto nice job.


Wilbur Charles said...

Btw. I think I've figured out LINE SEGMENT. ie. When the 'cuer' in the wings wants to prompt Lady McBeth he goes "ARF, ARF". Likewise, to cue Hamlet he makes a buzzing sound.

The two famous lines:? YR or perhaps C-Moe will fill them in. Or add a few 😖

Owen, re. 'lick vs l'ick. The ' implied there's something before "lick".

Finally, bad news. The producers rejected the pilot. Inside humor, especially Marine corps humor doesn't sell. And the TBBT people were threatening to sue**. They did mention that I should add a beloved aunt to the Rocks.

Let's see. I had an aunt Nora*, hmm. I also had an aunt Agnes. THAT'S THE TICKET.
BTW. The producers mentioned that perhaps I should keep my day job.

* Yes. Nora often rode the trolley up in Boston where it's often freezing
** Actually, I believe the TBBT people actually stole there idea from a friend of mine. I actually have evidence but he passed away- the original author who called it "12 billion years". Same historical flashback.

WC in the gloaming. I've changed shifts so this is my awake time.

Picard said...

As a math person I am always happy when MATH gets attention! Not sure why it was FUZZY, though?

Also not sure how a stage cue is a SEGMENT? Maybe just that it is a piece of the line?

Thanks for explaining ARCH which I totally did not understand!

I remember watching UNCLE Fester as a child and wondered if younger people would get this clue. But there were more recent re-makes of the Addams Family. My grandparents had a book of original Charles Addams cartoons called "Addams and Evil" which I loved.

STIEG unknown but got with ESP.