Sep 2, 2008

Tuesday September 2, 2008 Stanley B. Whitten

Theme: Before You Cross the Street

20A: Never say die: STOP AT NOTHING

38A: Burton/Bloom film of 1958: LOOK BACK IN ANGER

56A: Eavesdropper's perch: LISTENING POST

Why LISTENING? Why not LISTEN*? I really hate this kind of lack of consitency in theme answers. But I could not think of a 13-letter phrase with the word "LISTEN" in it, can you?

I was not excited by this puzzle at all. Nothing sparkling. It looks very ordinary to me. However, I was not familiar with either the song "Stop, Look and Listen" or the movie "Stop, Look and Listen", so I could have been missing on something important here. Maybe you can enlighten me with your take.

Had to ask Google for help on PEYOTE & HYSON. You could not believe it, but I've never heard of HYSON green tea before.


1A: Momma's partner: POPPA. I always thought it's Mama and PAPA.

14A: Of hearing: AURAL. What's the difference between AURAL, OTIC, auricular & auditory?

15A: Chummy: CLOSE. Come CLOSER with Glen CLOSE? What is the product?

16A: William Tell's canton: URI. Have not seen the "Mentalist Geller" clue for a long time.

18A: Holliman and Scruggs: EARLS. Have heard of EARL Scruggs, not Holliman. That's a great clip. Steve Martin is so talented.

19A: Road to Rouen: RUE. Good alliteration. This is probably the most famous RUE in Paris.

23A: Ornamental container: VASE. Hmmm, I still want "Flower Holder" clue.

26A: Mescal: PEYOTE. New word to me. I did not know what's the meaning of "mescal". WP says PEYOTE is also called Mescal Button or the Divine Cactus. Look at this flowering PEYOTE. WP also says that "Native Americans used the plant for its curative properties as well. They employed PEYOTE for treating such varied ailments as toothache, pain in childbirth, fever, breast pain, skin diseases, rheumatism, diabetes, colds, and blindness." Melissa is probably aware of this medicinal use.

27A: Peacock's "eyes": OCELLI. Singular is OCELLUS, dimunutive of Oculus (plural: Oculi) . New to me also. I did not know those eyespots are called OCELLI. Rememer this Pantheon OCULUS (clued as "Eyelike window") I linked last time?

31A: Muslim prince, var.: AMEER. Or EMEER sometimes.

43A: Of blood: HEMAL. Ha, I got this one. Had to thank Barry for his AKIN ("Blood-related) mistake last week.

45A: "Painting" painter: MIRO (Joan). Sigh... what can I say? Our editor is obsessed with "Painting". This is MIRO's "The Farm".

50A: Partly frozen drink: FRAPPE. I've never had FRAPPE before. What does it taste like?

55A: Simpson kid: BART. What, am I not good enough to be clued as BART?

65A: Inorganic compound: AMIDE. "Inorganic"? Are you sure?

66A: Old-time journalist Pyle: ERNIE. I forgot. Obtained from the across clue. Would have been a gimme if it's clued as ERNIE Els or ERNIE Banks.


2D: "___ Town": OUR. Is it good? I am not familiar with any of Thornton Wilder's work.

3D: Keeps going: PRESSES ON

4D: Chalklike crayon: PASTEL. Ha, that's Degas, he loved PASTEL. Wonderful "After Bathing"!

9D: At a slant: ASLOPE. I would prefer the clue to be a simple "Tilted".

22D: Green tea: HYSON. Sometimes Cantonese spelling can really throws me off. I grew up speaking Mandarin Chinese, Xi'An dilact to be exact.

23D: See-through fabric: VOILE. Pretty pink VOILE skirt. I like the small dots.

32D: Call back?: ECHO. I rather like the Greek mythology on ECHO/Narcissus. Have you ever had unrequited love before? The saddest thing in this world is to love someone who does not love you.

35D: Shaking up: AGITATING

39D: Neatly maintained: KEMPT. I only knew UNKEMPT.

40D: Image Award grp.: NAACP

46D: Emetic medication: IPECAC. New to me also. I did not the meaning of "emetic" either. Hard to imagine the root of this plant can be so powerful. Do you like ginger root?

52D: Very, in music: ASSAI. Allegro ASSAI & Lento ASSAI.

57D: Footnote abbr.: IBID. Sometimes it's OP. CIT. I forgot what's the difference between them.

63D: Back of a chariot?: EER. Charioteer. New word to me. I'm used to the "End of auction" clue. Here is the The Charioteer of Delphi Statue. Incredible detail. Look at his eye lashes, amazing!



Argyle said...

Good Morning, c.c.,

use an iPod - listen to music

Stop, Look, Listen is what use to be on signs on railroad crossings, especially ones without gates.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Good morning. So my theme title is wrong? How would you summarize then? How old were you at that picture?

Dennis said...

Good morning, c.c. and gang - I agree, pretty bland. Got help from the perps on a couple, but outside of 'kempt', no surprises. Guess he's easing everybody back into the work week.

I hope no one's offended by the picture - I figured someone had to be the first to show their ass (this time literally instead of figuratively), and I promise it'll be gone in a day. Finally found that pony pic for tomorrow.

I hope y'all have an outstanding day; looks like our thoughts and prayers for Gustav's potential victims might have helped.

Dick said...

Good morning Cc etal. Had some struggles with this one. Had CASE for 23A for a long time and this prevented me from getting 23D. I also did not know 50A or 46D and needed help from Mr G.

Cc Argyle is correct in his explanation of Stop, Look and Listen.

Dennis said...

Oh, and c.c., thanks for the voile skirt picture; didn't know there was such a thing, but it'd certainly be worth looking into...

C.C. Burnikel said...

What a cute wiggly A_ _ (Member of the genus Equus)! Is that your preferred sleeping position?

So what should be the theme title then?

Argyle said...

They are always good words to live by, whether at a crossroads or stopping to smell the roses and listen to the birds.

I'm not sure of my exact age but I know my dog, "Rags", looks smarter than I do. But then, it was his job to keep me out of trouble.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Rags does look very intelligent and so curious. You look like a sweet boy who will never break a girl's heart.

Katherine said...

Good morning CC and gang......
I got most of this one, just missed a few.
No, I never heard of Glen Close 45. I really enjoyed the clip of Earl Scruggs, and Steve Martin. And "The Flower Holder" painting was beautiful .
I don't know what frappe tastes like because there are too many calories to try one! haha
Nice picture Dennis....
Have a good day everyone........

Barry G. said...

Morning, folks!

Pretty straightforward puzzle for me today. I didn't know HYSON, but I did know PEYOTE and was able to get it via the perps. Also didn't know (or simply forgot) OCELLI, but fortunately I remembered VOILE and was able to get that via the perps as well.

FRAPPE was a gimme for me since I'm from Boston where the drink originated (as far as I know).

I figured out HEMAL because I know that "hema" is a prefix relating to blood, but I've never actually seen the word before. Similarly, I've never heard of KEMPT before, but was able to infer it from "unkempt."

And I've finally managed to commit URI to memory, so that didn't trip me up this time around. My next goal is to remember the town Zeno came from (ILEA? ELEA? ELIA?)

flyingears said...

"Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement."
=Ronald Reagan

Hyson??? I had "HYSOP" and just got me out of the game... Never heard of hyson.

"HEMAL???" I have never heard any one using this term before, not even hematologists...

7D good clue!!! As in Venetians. Had me thinking of something else for a while.

"PEYOTE" is not an uncommon word. American Indians use it to get "in the zone".

Dr. Dad said...

Good morning to all!

I'm going to get this off my chest right away. Having a Ph.D. in organic chemistry I can tell all of you that 65A's answer of "amide" is WRONG!!! An amide IS NOT AN INORGANIC compound. It is an ORGANIC compound made up of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen atoms.

Earl Holliman played a cop along with Angie Dickinson on "Police Woman." He was also one of the "Sons of Katie Elder" along with John Wayne and Dean Martin in the movie of the same name.

Variant spellings of "Momma and Poppa (Mama and Papa).

Edgar Allan Poe - "The Murders in the Rue Morgue."

Well, I've had my "spouting off" this morning. That amide answer really got my goat (could anyone tell?).

Today is National Blueberry Popsicle Day. Japan also signed the formal surrender aboard the USS Missouri on this day in 1945.

Have a great day.

Dennis said...

ddrdad, today is also National Beheading Day.....not sure there's anywhere to go with that.

xchefwalt said...

Good morning c.c., DF’s and all- I must rush this one, will be back later for more.

“Stop, look and listen” are the instructions we give our kids before they cross the street. Today is the first day of school in most of the country (Florida started three weeks ago).

Argyle said...

The Glen Close appears to be a bourbon or Scotch but I am unable to find anything about it, using Google. Perhaps someone with that new search engine can find something?

C.C. Burnikel said...

I know you would love that VASE picture. Every time I see rose, I see you.

I found out that both HEM and HEMO are prefixes for "blood" as well. Now you've confused me with Zeno of ELEA.

I was also shocked by the clue of AMIDE, thus my "Inorganic? Are you sure?" comment. I know nothing about chemistry, but I do know that AMIDE is always, always clued as "Organic compound".

So, how would you summarize the theme title then?

Here is another one: Come Closer.

Barry G. said...

Now you've confused me with Zeno of ELEA.

Oops. Sorry about that... ^_^

C.C. Burnikel said...

Xchefwalt et al,
I've changed the theme title to "Before You Cross the Street", are you happy now?

I finally found out your original line: "Thanks, Clear Ayes, for doing the FINGERWORK. I thought that was what Col. Potter said when irritated." You were responding to Clear Ayes comment: "Kittyb, I googled "Horse Hockey" last night. How right you were. Colonel Potter of TV's M*A*S*H said it often."

I suspected some DF wordplay on FINGERWORK, since I could not find it in any dictionary. That's why I asked you if you made it up.

NYTAnonimo said...

@ Dennis

And here Michael Moore thought it was his letter/email to God that had been answered!

Did not know ASSAI or OCELLI but able to get them from the crosses. OK puzzle. I'm starting to have more respect for these puzzles as I read what others go through to construct them.

Almost said have a good Monday-but make that Tuesday!

Dr. Dad said...

All I can find is that it's a Scotch Whisky/Whiskey.

Bill said...

CC, Great video. I've not seen that in a long while. A million dollar band if I ever saw one.

Earl Scruggs, banjo
Glen Duncan, fiddle
Randy Scruggs, acoustic guitar
Steve Martin, 2nd banjo solo
Vince Gill, 1st electric guitar solo
Marty Stuart, mandolin
Gary Scruggs, harmonica
Albert Lee, 2nd electric guitar solo
Paul Shaffer, piano
Jerry Douglas, dobro
Will Lee, bass
Harry Stinson, drums

And it took David Letterman to put it together!

Kind of a bear today. Didn't "G" , but got slowed down in a few places till my coffee started to work. Needed a lot of ups and downs to come together for all the answers, so I was back and forth several times. But I made it!!

Nancy and I (with a lot of help) got Sat's x-word done before the reunion and I had a (I thought) a really good post, but somewhere between the typing and the sending, it got lost in cyberspace. Didn't have time to do it again. But
Goy home early yesterday PM (we went back down to the festival) and did yesterdays x-word late last night.
So, I've been keeping up!
I'm still looking for a particular picture to post, but haven't found it yet. I will though.
CYA all later

Dick said...

CC your theme change is OK with me.

DoesItinInk said...

Again a fairly easy, though for some reason the lower left corner slowed me down a bit. Perhaps the three day weekend took a bit of a toll on my brain functions.

26A: PEYOTE…remember Carlos Castaneda’s The Teachings of Don Juan?
21D: PRIMA…I have on occasions been accused of being a PRIMA Donna, my first name being Donna.
54D: AGNES…I have never seen this movie. Seeing it in the puzzle reminds me that I would like to. It stars Jane Fonda, Anne Bancroft and Meg Tilly. I recently saw Meg Tilly again when re-viewing The Big Chill. Scroll down through the the stills here Meg Tilly to see how incredibly flexible she was!

kazie said...

c.c., I think op. cit., short for opere citato (in the work cited), is used to cite another part of a previously cited work, whereas ibid (ibidem = in the same place)is for a quote from the same place in a work.
I managed this puzzle without googling, but only because of some good guesses and perps.

DoesItinInk said...

re: Glen Close. The woman in the picture is the actress Glen Close.

DoesItinInk said...

Stop, look and listen
Before you cross the street.
Use your eyes, use your ears,
And then use your feet.

Ken said...

Good morning, C.C., et al. I pretty much coasted through this once until I stubbed my toe at 27A. I just couldn't get that first letter "O". I was probably struck dumb by "inorganic compound." Drdad said it all on that wrong clue.
C.C. I recently learned that when a man gives a woman a ring, the attention is all about her and the ring. I guess I knew that...chuckle.

Dennis said...

doesitinink, we're trying to figure out what the bottle is in the picture with Glenn Close. Appears to be either a whiskey or scotch.

Bill said...

There, I found it! Nothing risque, 'cause I couldn't find the one of me taking a bath in a washtub on the front lawn!!!! I WILL keep looking..
This was at 18 months (approx) Mar 8th, 1947. I was helping (I guess)!!

Anonymous said...

Flyingears: You make me feel old with your "in the zone" comment. I want to be sure everyone understands PEYOTE is a plant that induces hallucinations. Some of us may not understand "in the zone". There was a lot of uproar about the American Indian use of it in their religious ceremonies, even though the U.S. gov't. wanted to ban it. Religious freedom won as I recall.
And yes, "stop, look, and listen" is what all of us elementary teachers tried to install in kids before crossing a street.

Bill said...

BTW, I'm a little confused with
26a. Isn't MESCAL a drink? Similar to tequila I think. With worms and stuff!!
How did it come to be PEYOTE?

MH said...

"Stop, Look, & Listen" was our crossing the street mantra when we were little kids walking to school. I think the theme is right on. I liked this puzzle because it looked like I wouldn't be able to finish it unassisted but once I got the theme it all fell into place.

Bill said...

Never mind! Should have looked it up FIRST. I guess they are from same cactus. I had no clue. I've consumed lots of alcohol but never smoked much STUFF. Oh, well! I didn't miss much, I think!!!

flyingears said...


Peyote... That's what I meant by them being "in the zone" for their "religious" activities...

DoesItinInk said...

re: Glen Close. Is it possible the ad is a spoof? The picture came from this web site Glen Close Malt. The second picture though comes from an ad for her role as Gertrude in Hamlet In Hamlet with the bottle super-imposed. Just a thought.

Dr. Dad said...

Peyote is a psychotropic alkaloid. It is chemically related to adrenaline. Thin slices of peyote are often referred to as mescal buttons. Also, the most potent of this family of alkaloids is known as mescaline (root word is mescal). The other use of the word mescal is indeed for a spirit, much like tequila, that is obtained from the agave plant. Most people are familiar with this meaning as opposed to the psychotropic drug meaning.

flyingears said...

Have you ever used the term "HEMAL"?

Dennis said...

flyingears, which one's you?

Dr. Dad said...

Never used hemal personally but it is a word. More familiar with heme (the protein), hemoglobin, and hematocrit.

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All,
Phew, thank you Doesitinink for helping to clear up the Glenn Close mystery. The website "" that Doesit provided made up a couple of spoof ads using her name as a parody on Glenfiddich, Glenlivet, etal.

Oh yes, today's puzzle...It was fairly straightforward, although I had to get OCELLI, HYSON and ASSAI from the surrounds. I did want "Slushy" for "Partly frozen drink", but after getting FLOPS and RISER, FRAPPE popped into my mind.

Although a frappé is usually a thick milkshake type drink, it can also be with from fruit juices. So the difference between a frappé and a slushy is about $5.00.

"OUR Town" is an often produced play in local repertory companies and even in high schools. It has a small cast and very little scenery. Paul Newman, in the part of The Stage Manager, was in a PBS production a few years ago. The play deals with all the 'biggies'; Life, Death and Eternity.

Back in the 1960's, I knew people who "did" peyote. I wasn't even tempted. That kind of stuff scared me.

C.C. Thanks for the lovely Degas print.

Now I'll go try to find that "baby behind" photo I have somewhere.

flyingears said...

Yes, I knew it exists as a word. Probably a "good" odd word for puzzles but heme is the commonly used one... Agree.

I am the first one to the left kneeling (the one with a goatee and facing the camera; goatee not there any longer. During the Zumualt (the infamous Z-Grams if you recall) years, he allowed beards, goatees, sideburns, blocked haircuts. It drove the Chiefs lulu. I think that strict looks are the way to go. Just like a well-groomed Marine. Love 'em!!!

Jeannie said...

I am back from a long weekend of sailing. Had a wonderful time, but it was pretty windy on Monday...had to take down the jib.

I thought this puzzle was pretty easy. The ones I had trouble with were 27A peacock eyes, 34A tobacco kiln, and 52D assai. I managed to get most of those with the crosses.

Dennis, nice gluteous maximus! Your momma fed you well by the looks of it!

Friends for Louisiana...hope all is well.

Barb B said...

An easy puzzle, but still a few challenges to a beginner like me.

For a while I missed tress; I kept thinking of wrestling for head lock, although the clue makes it quite clear by using two words. Had a similar problem with duds; I was thinking clothes. Duh.

Didn’t know Hyson, assai, oast, and Miro. Should have known Miro as we had him a while back, and I remember the painting.I must say I like 'the Farm' more.

I liked the way guile crosses lie and err, and Road to Rouin made me laugh; I had no idea what Rouin was, but it’s so obviously close to the “road to ruin,” isn’t it?

Dennis, that’s a wonderful picture. Cute buns.

JD said...

Before my brain finally clicked on and I remembered ocelli, I was googling. An interesting site told a tale of Indiana Jones searching (in 1919)for one of the 2 diamonds (called The Peacock's Eye)thatwere owned by Alexander the Great.If I am to believe this story, then Indiana Jones was a real person?

I'd never heard of mescal, so I put cactus as the dictionary didn't give much info.Did anyone read where Mexico has limited the growing of the the agave plant and is planting faster growing grains and beans instead? That should up the cost of a margarita!

loved the clue for21D, but didn't get it :-)

Enjoyed the Scruggs video, C.C.

Nytanonimo, the link to the "puzzle maker" was enlightening.

KittyB said...

Thanks, c.c., for finding that entry. Yes...I must have made up the word "fingerwork," implying that clear ayes had "let her fingers do the walking" (as the Yellow Pages ad goes), to find just what it was that Harry Potter used to shout when aggravated. Horse Hockey!

I'll be back later, I'm on the trail of my baby picture.

DoesItinInk said...

jd: PRIMA donna is Italian for 'first lady'. It refers to the female singer in an operatic production. Because some prima donnas were difficult to get along with, demanding and egotistical, the term has come to be used to describe people with those personality traits.

JD said...

doesitinink: I understand what a prima donna is, but I just couldn't come up with the answer this morning.I know most of the words in these puzzles, but I can't always get them from the clues.Each day I add 5 or 6 new words to my vocab. The problem is remembering them( ex: Miro) Thanks for your explanation. I don't think you were a prima donna.

Buckeye said...

Guday c.c. and df's. Thought this would be another "cake walk" while completing the upper 1/3, then things got a little complicated. Figured out 27(a) and 23(d) so that fell into place. Initially spelled Agnes with a "u" until the misleading "amide" arrived. Got 52(d) by the perps. Played trumpet for years and didn't remember "assai".

@ Dennis; I remember "frappe" from when I was on Cape Cod during a summer break from OSU. I think that if you ordered a milk shake that's what you got. No ice cream, just milk with chocolate, vanilla etc. flavoring and put in a blender. A frappe had ice cream. Am I "disremembering" this?

Lots to do today, so I'll continue my education here later tonight when the sane are aslumber.

Not to steal's thunder but on this date in 1666 the great fire of London started, causing the Brits to say, "I say! A bit inconvenient, what?"

I must be off.

Dennis said...

buckeye, I think you directed the 'frappe' answer to the wrong person; wasn't I.
However, back when I was in my mid-teens, I was a part-time soda jerk (easy with the comments, gang, it's too easy) and a milk shake was just as it is today. There were also egg creams, which were just seltzer water and chocolate or vanilla syrup. I don't think I heard of frappes until Dairy Queen came along.

Crockett1947 said...

Good morning, everyone! Did not know tha the NAACP awarded the Image Award, didn't know OCELLI, and didn't care for 29A and 32A being clued as they were.

Thought "RR Warning!" would be a good theme.

After checking the Wikipedia article on Ocellus, is the clue just plain wrong?

Yes, that is a great Earl Scruggs clip. Really gets one's toes tapping!

@barb b Nice picture. I also struggled with TRESS and FLOPS.

Have a gr8 day!

Mr. Ed said...

Good morning C.C. & all

Pretty easy one this morning. The voile/ocelli intersection had me stumped for a bit. I knew the perps in the south so the horizontals filled in automatically without having to beat myself up over amide. Had never heard of hemal relating to blood but again, the perps filled it in. The theme lines almost filled themselves in with just a few perps making them very apparent.

My only observation would be the desire for authors/editors to label obsolete terms or word variations (ie obs or var) rather than try to totally "stump" the solvers with very vague, obscure, inaccurate clues. It's frustrating when the "comfort" level of a puzzle is arbitrarily raised suddenly. Just my humble opinion.

I think we can all take a collective sigh of relief that Gustav calmed down in time to avert a disaster. There's a lot of damage throughout the Gulf and Caribbean but, thank goodness, the Gulf Coast was spared another major setback. In O, were back to summer again after a cold weekend of storms, funnel clouds, & periodic wet spots... pretty much typical I guess.

@kittyb Colonel Potter's first name was Sherman in MASH.

Y'all have a good'un. I'm outta here!

Dennis said...

barb b, I'll second that; outstanding picture. You two put that picture of the Judds to shame.

Barb B said...

Thank you Crockett and Dennis.

Sure wish I still looked that good. I think I am a too proud woman who says 'well, when I was younger...." LOL
Gotta take comfort somewhere.

DoesItinInk said...

jd @ 1:00...Sorry, when you said you "didn't get it", I misunderstood you to mean that you did not understand it.

embien said...

7:42 today. Never heard of VOILE, HYSON or HEMAL before, and the cluing for AMIDE is evidently wrong, as others have noted.

I always thought RUE meant "street" and not "road", which my 40 years ago French wants to be something like "route".

If you read Hunter S. Thompson's Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, you'll find plenty of references to peyote (which isn't smoked, but rather eaten like "psychedelic" mushrooms). Other than that nothing exciting about this puzzle.

Anonymous said...

13 letter phrase using listen:

clue - "eavesdropper's perches" (plural)

answer - "listen in posts"

By the way a frappe tastes like a partly frozen drink.

Seattle SAm

Dr. Dad said...

Buckeye - no you are not "disremembering" that. I am originally from Nebraska and was quite surprised when I ordered my first milkshake in RI. Then found out a "frappe" is the closest they have to it and to me, it is still not what I called a milkshake.

Jeannie said...

embien, I too read Hunter S. Thompson's book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Pretty disturbing actually. Did you see the movie with Johnny Depp? I thought he was pretty good in it and the movie didn't stray too far from the book. Then again I love Johnny Depp. What girl doesn't?

Jeannie said...

drdad, hubba hubba nice picture!

C.C. Burnikel said...

Seattle Sam,
Superb! Do come back tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow, and the day after that...

xchefwalt said...

From the “I’m an idiot” files- I always thought that ‘frappe’ was a setting on a blender. The term is unknown and unused in NY.

I did see “Agnes of God” on Broadway with the great Geraldine Page and Carrie Fisher as Agnes. Brutal, brilliant play.

I am scouring boxes for baby/graduation pictures. This one of me and my “baby” will have to do for now.

Barb B said...

Whoa!!!!!! Dr Dad!
Great picture.

What is evolving here is a rare opportunity to see our friends as whole people; baby to sage. I'm not sure how it happened, but I absolutely love it.

Keep 'em coming.

C.C. Burnikel said...

Bill, Barb B, Dr. Dad & Xchefwalt,
Wow, great pictures! Thank you for sharing with us!

Seattle Sam,
On a second thought, there is a serious flaw in your cluing. Your clue is asking for a noun, yet your answer is a verb phrase.

No better clue for 56A? Where is your lady E?

Barry G. said...

Yes, a FRAPPE is basically what everybody else calls a milkshake. These days, it's pretty much a distinction without a difference, since McDonalds is so pervasive that we all know that a shake has ice cream as well.

But a 30-40 years ago, if my parents are to be believed, a milk shake in New England was milk and flavoring with no ice cream. If you wanted ice cream, you went to Friendly's or Brighams and ordered a FRAPPE (pronounced "frap").

Clear Ayes said...

New photos abound. Xchefwalt, Drdad, Bill, Argyle, Buckeye, all very handsome, both younger and older.

BarbB, Very nice lady. I understand about the "when I was younger"

I can't believe I was less modest than Dennis when I was only a month old. Baby Dennis turned his head from the camera, but I'm giving it my "Aren't I special?" pose.

I wonder why our mothers thought so many of us had cute little bums?

Cokato, a definite "YES!" for Johnny Depp. my favorite is "Don Juan DeMarco". Brian Adams Have You Ever Really Loved A Woman theme song doesn't hurt one bit.

KittyB said...

Awwwwwwww Carl! I was hoping that nobody would bust my chops about that error. I was rushing to finish the post so that I could greet guests, and my brain went south. I stand corrected.

Great pictures, everyone. Just great!

kazie said...

embien, you are right--rue is really a street, and route is a road or highway.
As long as we're baring the bums, here's a side view of mine.

Mr. Ed said...


No chops bustin' here. He was played by Harry Morgan... so you were within the first circle out from the bullseye.


KittyB said...

Bill, I had to surf for 'dobro.' In the link to Earl Scruggs and Steve Martin, was the dobro player the one who had the guitar flat in front of him, with the steel guitar sound? It's a great link. I'm glad the performance was preserved.

Thanks, carl....that was kind of you.

When I was a teen, I never understood the screaming my classmates did for the Beatles and other groups, but Johnny.....Ohhhhhhhhh JOHNNY! So far, the only one of his works I don't really care for is "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory."

Bill said...

KB, The Dobro is actually a resonator guitar. Dobro happens to be a brand name and now most resonator guitars are refered to as DOBROS. Played like a steel but tuned differently. Most players tune an open "G".

carol said...

Hi C.C. and everyone: Checking in late today, I've been canning tomatoes.

Barb b, I thought 50D was about clothing too. So don't do the V-8 thingy to your forehead :) Great picture of you!!!

Dennis, nice tush! I'll bet it's still cute.

drdad, wow so nice to finally see "you"

xchefwalt: Love your picture too and you have a cutie for a son!

Clear Ayes: what a darling baby picture, and you are still a cutie!

This milkshake/frappe thing is interesting. It appears that the milkshake is a regional drink. When my husband and I were in Wyo. we ordered milkshakes with our hamburgers at lunch and they were just like soft ice-cream. We had to "eat" them with a spoon! I tried to drink mine through a straw but it would have been easier to suck a golf ball through a garden hose!!

Anonymous said...

we do this puzzle daily and we would like to validate the previous comment from Ph.D. aka drdad - An amide is just about as organic as it comes!! We are 2 pharmacists and surprised ourselves that we remembered this from college ... We are surprised more of you didn't notice this glaring mistake ...

C.C. Burnikel said...

Ken @ 8:31am,
"C.C. I recently learned that when a man gives a woman a ring, the attention is all about her and the ring. I guess I knew that...chuckle." What prompted this comment?

I like your "RR Warning!" theme. "After checking the Wikipedia article on Ocellus, is the clue just plain wrong?" Why?

Clear Ayes,
I like your baby picture. Your face looks so impishly imaginative, daring & confrontative, like Monet's "Olympia". I think Dennis is too deep into INTRIGUING a future DFdom to face the camera. Thank you so much for the "Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman?" song. It had the plum-coloured bruising effect on me.

Anonymous @ 7:00pm,
Be prepared for more surprises! My ignorance is encyclopedic!

KittyB said...

Testing....(checking to see if the picture comes through)

C.C. Burnikel said...

I think the RUE clue is OK, esp for alliteration purpose. I could not see clearly your picture, are you N_ _ _ ED (Unvarnished, as truth)?

What a preciously happy picture! Adorable!

Dennis said...

kittyb, a very cute picture, and all ready for shark week with that hair.

C.C. Burnikel said...

What is "shark week"?

Dennis said...

c.c., they've been running ads on TV for shark week, featuring kids with their hair spiked like a shark's fin.

ALucidDreamUndreamt said...

so, I think otic and auricular are more anatomical terms and deals with the ear as a structure and that aural and auditory are ,pre physiological and deals with the ear in terms of he sense or hearing. I'm not 100% sure if those are accurate definitions or not but yea

Peyote or mescal is a hallucinogenic drug and is legal in the U.S. only for ritualistic purposes

Amides are organic compounds. They are derived from ammonia and contains the -C(O)NH2 group

IPECAC is old school. It is used to make people vomit up poisons thats are swallowed. It can be toxic to the heart though. I don't know if it still is but it use to be TOC and was abused by people with eating disorders. I don't know if they still sell it.

Clear Ayes said...

C.C. Thanks for the nice words about my baby picture. I'm afraid I would never pose nude (at least for public display) like "Olympia". Check out my baby thighs. They have pretty much stayed the same.

We do have some Johnny Depp fans here don't we? Sorry guys, but he just has a way about him that is impossible to resist. I can't think of another man who would look so cute in an angora sweater (Ed Wood). Pirate, mass murderer, cross dresser, romantic lead, there isn't much he can't do well. I agree with KittyB, "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" wasn't his best. I've got a nice glass of Cab Blanc in front of's to you, Johnny.

Strange movies..""House of Fools", a Russian language movie from 2003 that features Bryan Adams as an hallucination of himself. A Chechnya mental hospital houses a young woman who believes that Bryan Adams is her fiancé. The movie is definitely anti-war and weirdly disturbing. If you don't mind sub-titles and like "Have You Ever Really Loved A Women", you might like this one.

It's interesting that FRAPPE is different both in pronunciation and content in different parts of the country. Are the overstuffed sandwiches on rolls, heroes, subs (submarines), grinders or hoagies in your area? They used to be "grinders" in So. California in the '50's, but are usually called "subs", thanks to Subway, now.

carol said...

Kittyb, cute picture! Why did our Moms do that to our hair?? A lot of the pictures of that era are like that. Maybe they wanted to show we actually HAD hair. :)

Clear Ayes said...

Dennis, that a "kewpie doll" finger curl Kittyb is displaying. Very cute! I think Buckeye had a similar photo last week.....the things our mothers did to us!!

kazie said...

c.c., Sorry the picture is unclear--I thought it would be clearer in my profile though if you look. Yes, totally buff--next to an old water tank at my Grandmother's place in the country, where rainwater was collected that way from the house roofs in Australia. Underground water is too brackish for consumption.

KittyB said...

Thanks, all! Dennis, I was going to exclude you for the "shark" comment, but you were nice about the picture. *G*

I knew that picture was floating around somewhere, and I mentioned it to my youngest sis, who had the answer to it's location.

Carol, I think you've hit the nail on the head with your "Maybe they wanted to show we actually HAD hair." comment. My hair was thin and pale red so it looked sparse.

Clear ayes, a kewpie doll curl is MUCH nicer than a shark fin! Thanks for comming to my rescue! lol

I have a mid-life picture to share if I can find it. I know it's around somewhere, and I fit right in among the ranks of the "Well, when I was younger..." group.

Have a good night, everyone.

Argyle said...

c.c. said@3:30 PM
Argyle,No better clue for 56A? Where is your lady E?

You don't like my 5:41am clue? It involved music.

Regional names: Some time I'm going to take a winter trip to Maine, stopping at every lake, to find out where the New York ice fishing shanties become the New Hampshire bob houses. I'll ask if they fish, in the summer, for bullheads or horned pout. That would be catfish to the rest of you.

Barry G. said...

@Clear Ayes:

Here in Boston they're either grinders or subs.

Dennis said...

kittyb, all in fun, of course.

Ken said...

@C.C. My ring statement was prompted by the comment about walking my daughter down the aisle. Her rings were the talk of that day. That is what usually happens to a bride.

carol said...

Kittyb, you do look like the cute little kewpie dolls I used to have. I should have saved them, they are worth something now, if in good condition. Funny how you give old things to charity or sell them at garage sales and then find out they could have been worth thousands on e-bay.

Buckeye said... and Barry, thanks for the "frappe" explanation. I'm glad my "rememberer" is still O.K.

Here in the mid-west the sandwiches were called subs or hoagies.

Carol; loved the golf ball - garden hose thing. Willy Nelson said something similar to that in "The Electric Horseman" (Robert Redford & Jane Fonda - great flick.) When asked what he was going to do about Sonny (Redford) stealing a horse from Vegas, Willy said, and this is not the exact quote-, "I don't know what you're going to do, but I'm going to grab a bottle of tequila and get me one of those cute keno girls that looks like she could suck a trailer hitch through a garden hose".

Clear eyes; thanks for remembering my "curl" picture from last week. I, too, think our moms were saying, "See! The 'lil devil DOES have hair!".

"Make all of your acts as though they were acts universal".


Buckeye said...

My curl.


Dennis said...

buckeye, for some reason I thought it was 'suck the chrome off a trailer hitch'.

carol said...

Buckeye, I think the phrase was: "I think she could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch" :)

carol said...

Dennis: That's funny-our comments must have "collided" in cyber space!
Great minds traveling,etc.

Barb B said...

Ohhh I love all those pictures. Kittie's and Buckeye's curls are similar to Melissa Bee's - adorable.

Dennis and Clear Eyes had such cute buns, and Kazie - what can I say? A df from birth; and I mean that as a compliment.

My grandmother lived in the country in Texas, and had the same problem with well water. They called it gyp water, and we collected rain water rather than use the gyp. There was always a bucket on the kitchen counter with a dipper for drinking; no glasses to continually wash. Baths could be uncomfortable, because sand would come in with the water and settle in the bottom of the tub. But we really loved being there. You seemed to be enjoying yourself as well.

Can't wait to see tomorrow's pics.

kazie said...

barb b,
Those tanks had a pipe into the house near the bottom, but it allowed space for the sludge and sand to collect beneath it at the very bottom, so it didn't come out with the water. I guess if it ever built up too much it had to be cleaned out though.
I guess I was a born nudist--spent some time on a nude beach later on in my youth as well. Must have been because of the summer heat.

Buckeye said...

dennis and carol; I stand corrected. You are absolutely right. The chrome is even funnier. Mea culpa.


Crockett1947 said...

C.C., Wikipedia says, "An ocellus (plural: ocelli) is a type of photoreceptor organ in animals. Also called "simple eyes", ocelli are miniature eyes capable of sensing light but not distinguishing its direction."

The peacock "eyes" are the coloring in the feathers that look like eyes. They have nothing to do with actually "seeing" anything! Or, am I all wet here??