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Sep 21, 2022

Wednesday, September 21, 2022 Bonnie Eisenman

Theme: A DASH OF HABERDASHERY - or - YOU'RE PUTTING ME ON.  Theme answers are not quite homonyms for in-the-language phrases, and refer to articles of apparel. Let's try them on for size.

But first, today's theme song.

 

20. Impractical way to get dressed?: SHOES ON FIRST.  They're likely to get caught up in one's pant legs.  I assume everyone gets the reference.

31. Planning meeting for the costume department?: CLOTHES CALL.  I guess it's a Zoom meeting, not face to face, since it'a CALL.  Anyway, this is a narrow escape

42. Disappointing sign on a store selling warm-weather garments?: OUT OF SHORTS.  So, alas, we are forced to wear long pants.  That has us feeling not quite right.

53. Really pulls off a jacket?: ROCKS THE COAT.  Not removing it, but rather to wear, display, or feature it in a striking, distinctive, or attractive manner.  Not like rocking the boat, which means disturbing the status quo.

 

Hi Gang, JazzBunpa here to escort you to the fitting room. Looks like this might be Bonnie's first entry in the LA Times.  If so, a big CONGRATS! for a fine effort.  Let's find out if anything needs alteration.

Across:

 1. Thwack: SLAP.  Strike with the palm of the hand or a flat object.  Ouch!

5. Informed (of): AWARE.  On to.

10. Compensation: WAGE.  Regular payment for a steady job.

14. Tuck out of view: HIDE.  Conceal something.

15. Wrinkled: LINED. Having undesired slight folds.

16. Many a univ. donor: ALUM.  Grad.  Note abrvs.

17. 365 days: YEAR.  One solar circuit.

18. Rub ingredient: SPICE.  An aromatic or pungent vegetable substance used to flavor food, 

19. HBO political satire starring Julia Louis-Dreyfus: VEEP


 

23. Barack and Michelle's eldest daughter: MALIA.  Lots of pics here.

26. Family room: DEN.  A room in a house or apartment, used for activities not involving work:

27. Impatient: ANTSY.  Agitated; a blend of eager and anxious.

28. Lives: EXISTS.  Is alive.

30. Cookie fruit: FIG.  The edible fruit of Ficus carica, a species of small tree in the flowering plant family Moraceae. Native to the Mediterranean and western Asia, it has been cultivated since ancient times and is now widely grown throughout the world, both for its fruit and as an ornamental plant. 

35. "Stop filming!": CUT.  This signifies the end of a take and a call to stop the action. It's crucial for the actor to keep the acting and action going until the director calls “cut” or they risk messing up a great shot. It is never up to the actor to stop what they're doing without the “cut” call from the director.

38. Broody sorts?: HENS.  They sit on their eggs until they hatch. Not sure what mood they are in.

39. Sir or sri: TITLE.   Words designating rank, office, or nobility; terms of address (Mr., Mrs.); initials for an academic degree (MBA, Dr), or terms of respect.

40. More than dislike: HATE.   An intense or passionate negative feeling.

41. Donkey: ASS.  Beast of burden. 

44. GPS display: MAP.  "The map is not the territory."  -- Ned Stark

45. Small village: HAMLET.  Derived from Old French, meaning a settlement smaller than a village.

46. Food cart snacks in South Asia: CHAAT.   A family of savoury snacks that originated in India, typically served as an hors d'oeuvre or at roadside tracks from stalls or food carts across South Asia in India, Pakistan, Nepal and Bangladesh.  Now you know.

49. Texting letters: SMS.   SMS, or "Short Message Service," refers to standard text messages that are sent using a cellular signal instead of an internet connection, unlike iMessage or other web-based messaging services. SMS messages are limited to 160 characters, which is why longer SMS messages are typically broken into parts.

52. Swerves: VEERS.  Sharply changes direction.

56. Initial poker bet: ANTE.  Pay to play.

57. Japanese noodle dish: RAMEN.   Quick-cooking noodles, typically served in a broth with meat and vegetables.

58. Carried debt: OWED.   Was in the red.

62. Appear to be: SEEM.  Give the impression of being a particular kind of person or thing. 

63. "You __ kidding!": ARENT.  Contraction of. are not.

64. Grow tiresome: WEAR.   Exhaust one's patience or tolerance.

65. Jekyll's counterpart: HYDE.  A duel-personality character featured in a Gothic novella by Scottish author Robert Louis Stevenson, first published in 1886. 

66. Basil-based sauce: PESTO.   A sauce originating in Genoa, the capital city of Liguria, Italy. It traditionally consists of crushed garlic, European pine nuts, coarse salt, basil leaves, and hard cheese such as Parmigiano-Reggiano or Pecorino Sardo, all blended with olive oil.

67. Yields, as a profit: NETS.   Gain determined by income less expenses.

Down:

1. Bashful: SHY.   Being reserved or having or showing nervousness or timidity in the company of other people.

2. Blip on a polygraph, maybe: LIE.   This is properly regarded as pseudo-science, but sadly is credible in legal proceedings.

3. Hugo-nominated novelist Palmer: ADA.   She is an American historian and writer and winner of the 2017 John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer. Her first novel Too Like the Lightning was published in May 2016. The work has been well received by critics and was a finalist for the Hugo Award for Best Novel. 

4. Continues: PERSISTS.  Continues firmly or obstinately in an opinion or a course of action in spite of difficulty, opposition, or failure.

5. "One more thing ... ": ALSO.   Besides that; in addition . . .

6. Totally beat: WIPED.  Exhausted.

7. Ouzo flavoring: ANISE.   Anise (Pimpinella anisum) is one of the oldest known spice plants. It grows in the Mediterranean, Spain, West Asia, Mexico, Egypt, and the Middle East. Anise contains chemicals that might have estrogen-like effects, decrease swelling, and help fight off insects.   Does it taste god or awful -- you decide.

8. Scouting mission, briefly: RECON.   Short for reconnaissance, the military observation of a region to locate an enemy or ascertain strategic features.

9. Garden with forbidden fruit: EDEN.   Original home of Adam and Eve, as the story goes.  Sadly, it was snake infested.

10. Fluttering in the wind: WAVING.   Moving to and fro with a swaying or undulating motion while remaining fixed to one point.

11. Warning signal: ALERT.   A warning of a danger, threat, or problem, typically with the intention of having it avoided or dealt with.

12. Ballpark figure: GUESS.   Should be a closer estimate than a mere guess.

13. Like cans in a recycling bin, hopefully: EMPTY.  You don't generally throw them out when they're full.

21. Doth own: HATH.  Possesses, old style.

22. Fall flat: FAIL.   be unsuccessful in achieving one's goal.

23. Anime genre featuring giant robots: MECHA.   Anime in Japan is any animated work, regardless of style.  Mecha is anime featuring robots in battle.

24. Wheel-connecting rods: AXLES.    A central shaft for a rotating wheel or gear. On wheeled vehicles, the axle may be fixed to the wheels, rotating with them, or fixed to the vehicle, with the wheels rotating around the axle. 

25. NFL team whose mascot is named Roary: LIONS.  See him here.  They hung on for the win this week.

29. Punchline lead-in: SETUP.   A lead-in line that prepares the listener for the joke, often with misdirection.

30. __ and blood: FLESH.  Used to emphasize that a person is a physical, living being with human emotions or frailties, often in contrast to something abstract, spiritual, or mechanical.  Fire doesn't fit.

32. "Pull up a chair": SIT.  Take a load off our feet.

33. Corp. computer exec: CTO.   Chief Technical Officer.

34. Fuzzy sitcom star of the 1980s: ALF.  Acronym for Alien Life Form.   Gordon Shumway [aka ALF] is an alien from the planet Melmac who follows an amateur radio signal to Earth and crash-lands into the garage of the Tanners, a suburban middle-class family who live in the San Fernando Valley area of California. 

35. "The Grouchy Ladybug" writer/illustrator: CARLE.   The Grouchy Ladybug, also known as The Very Grouchy Ladybug, is a 1977 children's book written by Eric Carle, best known as the author of The Very Hungry Caterpillar, and published by Greenwillow Books.  Eric Carle [1929 - 2021] was an American author, designer and illustrator of children's books.

36. Out-and-out: UTTER.   Complete; absolute.

37. Tries, as one's patience: TESTS.   Persists in annoying behavior.

40. Place of origin: HOMETOWN.   Straight forward.

42. Cheerios grains: OATS.   The oat, sometimes called the common oat, is a species of cereal grain grown for its seed, which is known by the same name. While oats are suitable for human consumption as oatmeal and rolled oats, one of the most common uses is as livestock feed.

43. "__ Nagila": Israeli folk song: HAVA.  Let us rejoice - a song of celebration.



44. Defiant retort: MAKE ME.   Force me, if you can.

46. Cymbal sound: CRASH.  This one is pretty lame.



47. Bee product: HONEY.    S sweet, viscous food substance made by honey bees and some other bees.  Bees produce honey from the sugary secretions of plants (floral nectar) or from secretions of other insects (such as honeydew), by regurgitation, enzymatic activity, and water evaporation. 

48. Performed: ACTED.   Portrayed a character in a presentation.

49. Open up, in a way: SHARE.   To tell (thoughts, feelings, experiences, etc.) to others. 

50. Fast-spreading social media posts: MEMES.   An idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture.

51. Fragrance: SCENT.   These sound better than odor and smell.

54. Hip hop genre: TRAP.   A subgenre of hip hop music that originated in the Southern United States during the early 2000s. The genre gets its name from the Atlanta slang word "trap", a house used exclusively to sell drugs. It features drum machines and lyrical content that often focuses on drug use and urban violence.  

55. "I'm __ your tricks!": ON TO.   You can't fool me.

59. Pint-size: WEE.  Tiny.

60. "Mangia!": EAT.  In Italian.

61. Many profs: DRS.  Mostly PhDs.


That's it for the middle of this week.  Hope you're looking and feeling dapper.

Cool regards!
JzB





30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Pleasant solve but theme was just 4 random clothing puns. Not bad but no unifying feature.

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Got the theme...mostly. ROCKS THE COAT seemed like an outlier. SHOES ON FIRST was the cleverest. Plenty of learning moments: CHAAT, MECHA, and CTO. At my old company it was CIO, Chief Information Officer, or as my boss described it, "career is over." Fess up -- you tried AROMA before SCENT, didn't you? Impressive debut, Bonnie. Esoteric review, JzB.

OATS -- I was surprised to learn that another common grain, corn, just isn't on the menu in Europe. It's fit for animal feed only.

Jinx in Norfolk said...

FIR, but sasha-->MALIA, brine-->SPICE, slay-->SLAP, rte-->MAP, tired-->WIPED, alarm-->ALERT, cio-->CTO, up to -->ON TO. DNK VEEP, ADA, MECHA, CARLE, HAVA, and TRAP (it's rap crap.) But I immediately knew SMS, so I got that goin' for me.

JzB, i always thought that polygraphs were inadmissible in court, and were just used by investigators to exclude some potential perps. Is that state-dependent? (I think that some of the secret-squirrel government agencies use them internally.)

This was the most difficult puzzle I've gotten correct in a long time. Thanks to Bonnie for the workout. And thanks to JzB for the extensive explanation.

Subgenius said...

The only word I had no idea about was the very obscure “chaat”. Other than that, I didn’t have too much trouble with this puzzle. FIR, so I’m happy.

Anonymous said...

Loved the Rockin the Boat video! Stubby Kaye. “Nicely nicely, thank you.”

Anonymous said...

Took 5:37 today, but it didn't exactly beat the pants off of me.

Chaat?

Good Wednesday and debut puzzle.

Big Easy said...

First thought? WHO'S on first switch with SHOES ON FIRST. After FIR SHOES and CLOTHES were in front and SHORTS and COAT were last. I didn't notice the attire because I was stumbling in the SW after misreading 'Defiant retort' as 'Defiant sort' and thinking of a type of person; had CLASH, SEGUE, and RTE instead of CRASH, SET UP, and MAP until I corrected it.

T-RAP (TRAP) was unknown but it fit. I guess C-RAP will be the next genre. Oh, it's already there. Bad poetry set to an electronic drum beat. Drugs, violence, sex, misogyny, denigration of women sung out loud can make you millions.

CARLE, MECHA, ADA, and CHAAT- never heard of any of theme; perps.
VEEP- never had HBO; perps
MALIA- don't keep up with politicians' children; perps

KS said...

FIR, but not without a WAG at chaat and crash; still don't agree with "rocks the coat"; meh!

Yellowrocks said...

All the new-to-me words had good perps. Carle, Chaat, T-RAP, SMS, Mecha, Ada.
The SW stumped me until I changed CLASH to CRASH.
"ROCKS the look" seems common to me. No nit with rocks the coat.
"What does rock the look mean?
This means you are wearing something, usually that you are wearing it well. You look good, you are stylish, or you are fashionable with what you have on."
Even more common is you rock. "You rock is a slang phrase of praise or encouragement
meaning “You're awesome (at something)” or “You can do it!"
I have given and received this compliment.

Sherry said...

31 across : clothes call seemed obsure. Didn't know : mecha, cto, carle, chaat, sms. Too many unknowns.

Husker Gary said...

Musings
-Any puzzle that starts with SHOES ON FIRST has to be a winner!
-Having Jazz follow up with Stubby Kaye added to the fun
-SLAP – “Chris, I object to that joke you made about my wife’s bald head.”
-I was/am the only person in the house who like FIG Newtons
-We watched a documentary on Lord Mountbatten and Joann could not keep up with the TITLES
-How did that extra “A” get thrown into CHAAT?
-GPS is an abbr. so the fill must be RTE. What…?
-Custer split his forces because he had woefully inadequate RECONnaissance at the Little Big Horn
-SET UP – “Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I do this”
-The spirit is willing but the FLESH is weak

CanadianEh! said...

Wonderful Wednesday. Thanks for the fun, Bonnie and JazzB.
I FIRed in good time and saw the change of phrase theme. At first I was looking for a consistent letter change, but it was a change of sound (homonym).
Was WEAR in the bottom corner an Easter Egg to the CLOTHES theme?

Several inkblots in the NE corner, my last to fill.
I read 16A clue as “universal donor”, and was waiting for perps to decide between ONEG (my preferred choice) or OPOS. Oh, the abbreviation stands for University. I am an ALUM donor to U of T.
Alarm changed to ALERT. Hand up for wanting Est, but no abbreviation in the clue. A GUESS is really a ballpark figure- way out in left field perhaps!

CARLE required perps, and I have not heard of CHAAT.
CTO gave me trouble to. I wanted something with IT.

Wishing you all a great day.

Ray - O - Sunshine said...

FIW, put ITO instead of CTO couldn't figure CLOTHESCALL (close call) which doesn't seem to follow just dropping the S SHOES for "who's" and ROCK(S)THE COAT, (boat) etc..The theme tricks seem inconsistant.

WIPED as a stand alone term for "totally beat" must infer exhausted rather than vanquished it's short for the longer term "WIPED out" I ASS-u-me.

I first read it as "warm" gear like parkas.. oops.

Sasha and MALIA have the same number of and share many letters so this became an Inkover, others: manga/MECHA( from MECHnicAl?), Also: rte/MAP (always make this mistake thinking the answer has to be an abbrev cuz GPS is).

Is the Lady Bug Grouchy because he's one of the males and is having a gender crises? 🐞

CHAAT? whaat? I daresay Ms. Eisenman got herself backed into a corner on this one and hadda do an internet search or scan her CW database....

MANGIA che t'ingrass' from many southern Italian grandmothers "Eat, that you may get fat"

Just short (with "of")....SHY
Astringent for a tight-lipped grad....ALUM
"Oscargate" instigation...SLAP
What the melancholy Dane called his pet pig..HAMLET
Dr Jekyll strove to _____ _____....HIDE HYDE
Thus ...... HENS

After 3 days finally stopped raining, then I think how fortunate we are that full-blown hurricane🌀 fury has never reached us.

Monkey said...

All was going smoothly until I hit a snag in the SW. I held on to CLASH too long. Lots of unknowns but perps helped, like CHAAT, MÉCHA, TRAP, CARLE. But all in all a fun morning solve. Yes, SHOESONFIRST is a great clue.

Anonymous T said...

Hi All!

Nice workout-Wednesday puzzle, Bonnie. Thanks for the grid and congrats on the LAT debut.

Excellent Expo, JzB. I'd have said the same re: Polygraphs -- LOL 'secret-squirrel' agencies, Jinx.

WOs: ALaRm->ALERT, sAshA, manga->MECHA (ha! HENS)
ESPs: TRAP (I nearly went w/ cRAP, BigE :-)), CHAAT being right was a suprise.
Fav: I love PESTO. Had basil pesto with penne & chicken last night. Mangia!

Ray-O: "Eat, that you may get fat" Grams said all us Italian boys suffered from no-ASS-at-all disease.

YR - It's just TRAP, not T-RAP (though that's funny). It's house-electronic 'music' fueled by drugs (basically, what JzB said).
Since grid-fill is aiming at a younger crowd, get ready for "Hip Hop genre" to be Houston's CHOPED and/or SCREWED.

C, Eh! - The CTO (Chief* Technical Officer) or Chief Information Officer (Hi D-O!) is the C-Suite suit in charge of IT. Neither suits me - managing people is not my bag.

Cheers, -T
*I think of this every time I try to spell chief :-)

Lucina said...

Hola!

Eric CARLE was a brilliant author of children's books! The Very Hungry Caterpillar was always a favorite in the classroom.

Thank you, Bonnie and JazzB!

It would be a sad day when I would be OUT OF SHORTS in the summertime. Our weather requires them. It's already 81 degrees at 8:41 and climbing to at least 90 something.

This puzzle was fun since I enjoy puns and love CLOTHES.

Sunday I wore some shoes that I've had for a long while and didn't realize how long until the heels started to disintegrate! They simply crumbled away. Luckily I made it home and of course, tossed them in the trash.

A COAT, however, is unnecessary. I have worn mine to midnight Mass and maybe once or twice more in January or February. That's when we sometimes get really low temps. The only reason I have a COAT is to wear to faraway climates like North Carolina and New York which I've visited in winter.

One year I made my own PESTO sauce.

My HOMETOWN is now a ghost TOWN. People moved away when raising sheep was no longer profitable. Nearby St. John's, however, still EXISTS.

My great-grandson used the potty today! Yea!

Have a delightful day, everyone!



CrossEyedDave said...

Nice Wednesday puzzle,
(Although it could have been a Monday/Tuesday.)

Thanks for the Guys & Dolls clip! I enjoyed it.
I must watch this movie someday, I keep putting it off after having seen the high school play version for a week straight...

Would you believe?
That on the entire internet, there is not a picture of empty shoes on a baseball base anywhere?
this is the closest thing I could find...

An incomplete clothes call?

Hmm, I guess I could have also used the incomplete clothes call link for "out of shorts,". But I don't think the guys will blame me for this one...

Closest th8ng I could f8nd for rocks the coat?

sumdaze said...

FIW, ClASH/CRASH. Whatever...
Thanks JzB for starting us off with some ZZTop. Nice!
BigE @ 8:13. "C-rap next genre". LOL! Do rappers know they are responsible for cruciverbalists cringing on a regular basis?
CEh! @ 9:40. Good catch on WEAR!
FAVs: SHOES ON FIRST and Broody sorts?
Our annual Greek Festival is returning this coming weekend. It was cancelled in 2020 & 2021 due to covid. I'm looking forward to the OUZO!
Opa!!

Misty said...

Delightful Wednesday puzzle, many thanks, Bonnie. And I always enjoy your helpful commentary, thanks for that too, JazzB.

Wonder if HAMLET and DR. HYDE live in the same HOMETOWN in this puzzle? Since HYDE SEEMed to HIDE there, he might have sensed an ALERT and have worried that he was being SET UP in a TRAP. So he WIPED the sweat off his brow, and figured he'd better WEAR some different CLOTHES to avoid a close CALL.

HAMLET, on the other hand, was not as ANTSY as his friend and just EXISTS and PERSISTS, in UTTER peace in his DEN without any fear of a CRASH. He's done this for a while and was beginning to feel a bit EMPTY, and so he and his HONEY have finally decided to get some pets. They now have a LION and some HENS and an ASS in a yard where they're separated by NETS, and they're all sharing a good and happy YEAR.

Have a good day, everybody!

Ray - O - Sunshine said...

EDEN...

God tells Adam, "I'm going to make you a wife, a helpmate, the most beautiful woman who ever lived. Uncomplaining and adventurous. Thing is It'll cost you."

"How much?" Adam asks

God says "An eye, an elbow, a collarbone, and your left testicle"

Adam thinks for a moment then asks "What can I get for just a rib?"

(From David Sedaris' new book "Happy-Go-Lucky" told by fellow at a book signing)

Anonymous said...

Edward in Los Angeles here, if you like pesto, you would like chimmichurri: flat parsley, garlic, a bit of salt, pepper, and oregano blended in olive oil. I love it on grilled steak and on a good baguette.

Jayce said...

Misty, I immediately thought of you when I came across this:

Xinjiang Has Produced Its James Joyce
and he’s now sitting in a prison camp.

Read in The Atlantic:
https://apple.news/A0uzi5UMkQ4Wy30OURiPCvQ

Wilbur Charles said...

For the cymbal I started with clang and switched to ClASH and knew lOCKS THE BOAT had to be wrong. Aha, CRASH. FIW

Apparently, FIGS are very popular in Natick's nearby city Newton

My favorite ASS belonged to Balaam. He didn't speak much but was worth listening to

Shorts in FLA is de rigueur but not at night with mosquitos around

Thx JzB

WC

Ol' Man Keith said...

Sorry! In a rush...
~ OMK
___________
DR:
Two diags, one per side.
The near side's anagram (12 of 15) does not know quite what to make of Hannibal's diet.
Hence, the exclamation...

"FAVA WHATSITS?"!!

Anonymous T said...

From Sunday - WC: Fyodor of nmap (a hacking tool) took his name from Dostoevsky. I met Fyodor in Vancouver 20+ years ago. Nice chap.
//It was kinda funny. I sat next to him at lunch and he introduced himself sheepishly. I said, "I know who you are and I use nmap all the time; we need to fix the xmas-tree scan - crashes HP printers." A good laugh followed.

Lucina - I've been following the potty-training saga. He's 3 you say? Put some Cheerios in the toilet and have him aim at those... Hey, it worked for my (Army (Ret.)) Bro.
I'm 12 years older than he and it was my task to make him shoot-straight ;-)

Thanks for The Atlantic article Jayce. Good read.

Now, let's do some CLASH and ROCK the Casbah.

Cheers, -T

TXMs said...

Thank you, JzB, for your first clip - ZZTop!! Love those guys, but I only got to see them in concert one time in Houston when their hit, "Legs", came out - yeah, a long time ago. I always found it interesting that their drummer, Frank Beard, didn't sport one. RIP, Dusty Hill. I recently read they're on tour again (Dusty's wish before he passed away), with Elwood Francis, a longtime guitar technician, taking his place. Elwood's even sporting a long "pandemic" beard. They'll be at the Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion (in The Woodlands) on Sunday. Yes, I know, TMI, but I love those unconventional Texas guys.

WEES - Perps filled in solidly for unknowns - CHAAT, CARLE, MECHA, and ADA.

Anonymous T said...

TXMs - I now live close enough (Spring) to go to The Woodlands! Did you click my Chopped & Screwed link from earlier? Billy Gibbons used DJ Screw's technique in ZZ Top's later stuff.

During the pandemic (and when I lived in Sugar Land), I'd take my Alfa out to Top 40 Ranch for a fun drive.
Frank Beard (who doesn't have one) never asked me in :-)
Cheers, -T

TXMs said...

Anon-T, thanks. Started reading your Chopped and Screwed link, and when it starting going into hip-hop technique, my eyes glazed over and I started yawning. You have to remember, Tony, I'm an old lady and not into the latest music like you young'uns :>)).

Lucina said...

Thank you, Tony, for that interesting advice. Right now I don't have to worry about it. He has gone to stay with his daddy and I truly hope he comes back potty trained but I'm not holding my breath. I'm hoping that with a male role model he'll get the idea in a concrete way.

Sigh. My daughter and her husband have taken an active role in my daily ritual of taking my meds. I forgot ONCE and it has become a prominent issue. They have each conferred with my doctor and now have ordered me a device that will remind me to take them. Alexa, I think. I know I should be grateful and I am, but it makes me feel inadequate. It's done with love, I know, I know. But still . . . . . . .

JohnB said...

"15. Wrinkled: LINED. Having undesired slight folds."
Just asking, do "wrinkled" and "lined" really seem like synonyms?