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Jun 28, 2009

Sunday June 28, 2009 David W. Cromer

Theme: End of the Road

23A: Device using pulleys: BLOCK AND TACKLE (Roadblock)

39A: 1957 novel with the working title "The Strike": ATLAS SHRUGGED (Road Atlas)

47A: Plan likely to fail: HOUSE OF CARDS (Roadhouse)

64A: Dance, facetiously: TRIP THE LIGHT FANTASTIC (Road Trip)

83A: Break in: SHOW THE ROPE (Roadshow)

90A: Though not yet in force, one was adopted by the UN in 1996: TEST BAN TREATY (Road-test)

112A: One who's halfway home?: RUNNER ON SECOND (Roadrunner)

Nice theme title. I thought of roadkill, road rage & roadwork. What else can you think of?

The name BLOCK AND TACKLE is new to me, though I did know the device itself. Have never heard of TRIP THE LIGHT FANTASTIC. Wikipedia says the phrase means "to dance nimbly or lightly, or to move in a pattern to musical accompaniment."

Harder than last Sunday's puzzle, but very enjoyable. Some of the clues are so refreshing. Some are tricky. Plenty of V-8 moments for me.

Across:

1A: Window treatment: DRAPE

6A: Beat walkers: COPS. And ARRESTS (51A: Takes in) & TASE (69D: Stun, as a perp). I like multiple references in a puzzle.

10A: Pen pal?: PIG. "Pen" here refers to pigpen, the sty.

19A: Causing goose bumps: EERIE

20A: Came down: ALIT

21A: Tide alternative: ALL. Not familiar with ALL detergent. We use Tide.

22A: 1959 Steiger title role: CAPONE. The answer revealed itself.

26A: Self-conscious question: IS IT ME

27A: Carrere of "Wayne's World": TIA. New name to me. Wikipedia says she was born in Hawaii. Of Filipino descent.

28A: Cuarenta winks: SIESTA. "Guarenta" means "forty" in Spanish. I did not know that.

31A: Tale spinner: LIAR. Nice clue.

32A: Like most light bulbs: SCREW-IN

35A: Peruvian pack animal: LLAMA

37A: Publisher __ Nast: CONDE. I like Vogue the most.

38A: Ming 2-Down: VASE. And RELIC (2D: Artifact).

42A: Arid Israeli area: NEGEV. Wikipedia says NEGEV is from the Hebrew root denoting "dry". In the Bible the word NEGEV is also used for the direction "south".

45A: Windblown soil: LOESS. Loamy deposit.

46A: Crew tool: OAR. Crew on a ship/boat.

55A: Net grazer: LET. Tennis term. Also ILIE (66D: First name among '70s netmen) Nastase & TENNIS (95D: Court sport).

57A: Like some boots: STEEL TOED

59A: Film involving stage scenes: OATER. Struggled with this answer.

71A: Log variety: YULE. And DEC (59D: 71-Across mo.)

72A: Preminger et al: OTTOS

73A: Averse: LOATH. The verb is LOATHE.

74A: Puts dividends to work: REINVESTS. Good strategy. I prefer to have a higher stock price than a higher dividend.

79A: Previously: AGO

82A: Takes umbrage at: RESENTS

88A: Actress Davis: GEENA. She is a Mensa member.

89A: Lies next to: ABUTS. I was thinking of cuddling & spooning.

97A: They're not behind you: ANTIS. My favorite clue.

98A: Pie __: CHART. Wrote down CRUST.

99A: Pushes back, as a deadline: EXTENDS

103A: Hair line: PART

104A: Like a good loser? THIN. Lose weight. Excellent clue.

105A: Fuel rating: OCTANE

108A: Yves' yes: OUI. OUI, mon chéri, je t'aime.

110A: Actor Estevez: EMILIO. Son of Martin Sheen.

116A: Evangelist's admonition: REPENT

118A: '70s pinup name: LONI. LONI Anderson? She does not look that pretty.

119A: Jousting pole: LANCE. And STEED (123A: Jouster's ride).

120A: Two-handed hammer: SLEDGE

121A: Driver's gadget: TEE. Golf.

Down:

1D: Possible result of big losses: DEBTS. Financial loss. I thought of UPSET in sports.

3D: Like heavy surf: AROAR

4D: Photo: PIC

5D: "A mouse!": EEK

6D: Mutt, e.g.: CANINE

7D: __ English Bulldogge: OLDE. Not familiar with this breed of dog at all.

8D: Refueling places: PITS

9D: ASAP relative: STAT. Doctor's ASAP.

10D: Ind. neighbor: PAK. India. I was thinking of Indiana.

11D: "No thanks": I'LL PASS

12D: Ocular signs of planning?: GLEAMS. Why?

15D: Final words: EPILOG. Final word in a book.

16D: Overly attentive: DOTING

25D: Sent (for): CALLED

30D: City SSE of Islamabad: LAHORE. The second-largest city in Pakistan, after Karachi.

34D: Signaled from across the room, say: WAVED AT

36D: Colleen: LASS. Colleen is from an Irish word meaning "girl".

37D: Big name in skin care products: CUREL. I use Olay.

40D: Rocky peak: TOR. Pure crossword word.

41D: Hardly well done: RARE

42D: Red Wings' org.: NHL. Hmm, no tribute to the Penguins?

43D: Want ad letters: EOE (Equal-Opportunity Employer). Never know when to put EOE and when to put EEO (Equal Employment Opportunity)

44D: Kind of feeling: GUT

48D: Inaugural event: OATH. Ha ha, I wrote down GALA.

49D: Head for the hills: FLEE. Not familiar with the phrase "Head for the hills". Thought of WHIP, kind of head for the Capitol Hill.

50D: Tire-kicking areas: CAR LOTS

51D: Took advantage of the buffet: ATE A LOT. Mine was OVERATE.

53D: Suit basis: TORT. Law suit.

54D: Org. probing for outer-space life: SETI (Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence)

57D: Copperstone abbr.: SPF

59D: Starts the bidding: OPENS

60A: U.S. Army E-5: SGT. And STRIPE (92D: Indication of rank).

61D: Funny Margaret: CHO

64D: Norse god of war: TYR. Tuesday is named after him. Thursday is named after Thor, god of thunder.

68D: Role in the musical "Two by Two": NOAH. Well, who else could it be?

70D: Draw: ATTRACT

75D: Words of action: VERBS. So simple. I was stymied.

76D: Grammy-winning New Ager: ENYA. Have not seen ENYA for a long time.

77D: Big stink: STENCH

78D: Musical place, briefly: B'WAY. The OBIE (OB) Award is for Off-Broadway shows.

79D: "The Simpsons" Kwik-E-Mart operator: APU. Learned from doing Xword.

81D: CIA forerunner: OSS (Office of Strategic Services). 1942-1945.

83D: Ball user, maybe: SEER. D'oh, crystal ball.

84D: Patricia of "Everybody Loves Raymond": HEATON. She looks amazing. It's exciting to go bra-less once in a while.

85D: Hudson Bay prov.: ONT

86D: An orchestra tunes to one: OBOE. Oh, I thought orchestra tunes to piano.

88D: Fine particle: GRANULE

90D: Gets to the point: TAPERS. Great clue.

91D: Painter's choice: ENAMEL

93D: Having status, in a way: TITLED. Like the British Sir I suppose.

94D: Desire: THIRST

96D: Lets go: AXES

100D: Dismal turnout?: NO ONE. Dismal indeed.

101D: Blockhead: DUNCE

102D: Threw in (with): SIDED. They are not synonymous to me.

104D: Shopper's convenience: TOTE

106D: Texting device: CELL. We call cell phone "mobile phone" in China.

107D: Where Helen was taken: TROY. Helen of TROY.

108D: Top-shelf: A ONE. I still can't believe the word tops is an adjective.

111D: __ Direct: online bank: ING. I like this new clue. Tired of "Gerund's end".

113D: Science guy Bill: NYE. "Bill NYE, the Science Guy".

114D: High trains: ELS. In Chicago. Poor Ernie ELS. Missed the Masters & US Open cut, and now is deserted by David W. Cromer.

115D: Jazz fan: CAT. I miss Ed Bradley. He was a real cool CAT.

Answer grid.

C.C.

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

ROAD WARRIOR

The Mel Gibson movie.

Martin

KittyB said...

Good Morning, all.

I had a run at the puzzle this morning to start my day. I needed one Google, for Patricia HEATON, and a fair bit of red letter help toward the bottom left of the c/w.

For 'Pen pal?' I tried 'ink,' and 'con,' before PIG fell into place. For 10D, I went through all the states around Indiana, before the perps gave me PAK. I tried 'ebb' for 21A before I realized it had to be ALL (which I use). I thought 55A was a farm animal until the perps gave me LET.

I liked the clue "Like a good loser?" for THIN.

We had some thunderstorms move through in the last 12 hours, but it looks like we are going to have a beautiful Sunday. I hope you all have a great day!

Argyle said...

A fine morning,

12D: Ocular signs of planning?: GLEAMS. Why?

Most common use: "I was just a GLEAM in my father's eye as they went to work on making a tricycle motor."

Argyle said...

Some minor complaints of an over-all good puzzle:

19A Causing goose bumps is asking for a noun but EERIE is an adjective.

27A Tia Maria is obscure enough; do we need TIA Carrere(she IS nicer to look at.) I realize some of you may think it is the other way around, that Maria is more obscure than Carrere.

and 25D sent (for) - CALLED.

abogato@aol.com said...

Tough !!!! You needed to thnk in an obstruce manner to get some of the answers like " Pen Pal"; "good loser". I am still not sure about 43 down( oeo) What is that?? I have never seen it in the wants ads. Also I am not clear about the general clue. "End of the Road". What does that have to do with block and tackle and runner on second. Help? Any one have a reasonable answer.
Next week my wife and I are going to the reenactment at Gettyburg. Since we in the South call the Civil War the "War of Northern Agreesion", this time we may win !!! Interesting is the fact that Lee never did explain why he directed the troops on the third day to advance directly into the guns on the Union. Did you know that the casaulty list for both side was about 47,000 out of a combined armies of about 160,000 men.

abogato in Alabama

Crockett1947 said...

@abogato 43B is EOE Equal Opportunity Employer.

Put the word ROAD in front of the first words of the theme answers, and you get familiar phrases. C.C. spells them out at the beginning of the write up. ROAD BLOCK, ROAD RUNNER, etc.

Gettysburg is an awesome and chilling experience. Enjoy your trip.

Have a great Sunday, all.

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, I was singing off a lot of KittyB's page this morning. For 'Pen pal?' - CON. For 10D, I went through all the states around Indiana, before the perps gave me PAK. I tried EBB for 21A before I realized it had to be ALL. I thought 55A was a farm animal until the perps gave me LET.

I was helped greatly by getting TRIP THE LIGHT FANTASTIC easily. I learned the song Sidewalks of New York as a little girl and that line is included in the chorus.

Most of my problems came on the south west side. I really had to chip away at the perps to get TEST BAN TREATY. I wanted something like ATOM BOMB BANS, but it didn't fit. I also drew a blank on ANTIS and PART. "Gets to the point?" was a great clue, and TAPERS was my last D'OH moment.

JD said...

Good morning CC and all,

Well, it took almost an hour and a half. I waltzed the light fantastic on the top half, and then nickle/dimed the bottom.Easy clues like words of action slowed me down.Oater always stops me; I'll get it faster next time. Eating worms is not fun.I thought the piano also tuned up the
orchestra.

Fav. clue: like a good loser

CC, for you going braless would be exciting, but sad to say, there comes a time when it is FAR FROM exciting...for everyone.

Argyle said...

JD, I was about to dispute your last statement(I've gone braless all my life) when I had a visual moment. I haven't stopped laughing!

Clear Ayes said...

JD, Yes, time and tide (I'm not talking about the detergent) eventually take their toll. What was a 36C is not what it was 25 or 30 years ago. That's all the detail I'm willing to give on that topic.

That reminds me, I'm hoping Lois will have time to give us her own take on the theme answers. There's some really good DF material there.

Several years ago, GAH and I took a ROAD TRIP and visited some Civil War battle sites. Gettysburg was very moving, but Antietam was overwhelming. It was a misty mid-week day in autumn, so we were almost alone as we toured the battle locations. To think that 23,000 boys and men were killed, wounded or missing on one day is almost unimaginable.

We also visited Chickamauga, Shiloh and finally Andersonville prison in Georgia, where approximately 45,000 Union prisoners died of starvation and disease.

The National Park Service does a wonderful job in maintaining so many Civil War battle sites. If you've never visited one of the parks, it is a incomparable educational and emotional experience.

KittyB said...

As was pointed out, the oboe is the instrument to which the orchestra tunes. In some situations, the oboe will play a tuning note for the strings, and then a tuning note for the winds.

Usually the first chair clarinet of a concert band provides the tuning pitch.

Most of the percussion section has a set pitch, but the tympani changes pitch from time to time, and the player will use a pitch pipe to provide the notes he needs to match. The pitch is changed through a foot pedal which tightens or loosens the head of the drum. A symphony or band may need anywhere from one to four tympani for a performance, depending upon the keys of the music being played.

The musicians need to warm up their instruments before tuning because the temperature of the instrument can have an effect on pitch. So can the embouchure (the way lips come in contact with an instrument) of the performer. Musicians warm up with scales and chorales the way a runner warms up with stretches.

There are a variety of electronic machines available to help musicians tune their horns, as well as tuning forks (non-electronic). And, many musicians have perfect pitch and can tell when they are out of tune.

When an orchestra or a band is in tune you might hear what sounds like a woman's voice singing a descant high above the group. I don't understand the science of it, but it has to do with the harmonics of the chord being reinforced by each performer.

Perhaps Jazzbumpa can provide more information.

JD said...

Not many exciting things happened on this day:
1820-the tomato was proven to be nonpoisonous

1951-
"Amos 'n Andy" premiered

1975- Lee Trevino was struck by lightning at the Western Open


Never understood JD yesterday and saw it mentioned this morning while reading about Rep. sex scandals. It is a doctoral degree in law,Juris Doctorate, that originated in the 60's, replacing the LLB ( Bachelor of Laws degree)

WM said...

Quick good morning...Lucy's mom and dad are dropping her off for a few hours so they can go to a movie. It should reach 100 or more today. Thank goodness for AC!

Did the puzzle last night in hjuyabout 45 min. It was quite a bit of fun and I really only had two answers that totally stumped me...ENYA??? and EOE...Thanks C.C.

I was also channeling KittyB...thought of states around Indianna and put in INK for pen Pal. Thought it interesting that we has IS IT I, then today, IS IT ME, which made for an easy fill. I, unfortunately, put in NASA for SETI which slowed me down and never did see the theme until coming here...really clever. I was also a little iffy on EERIE but it seememd too obvious to pass up.

Loni Anderson was popular, especially during the run of WKRP in Cinncinati...loved that show.

I'm with CA and JD on the braless thing...not so funny anymore. LOL

Have a great day everyone and Crockett...so glad to hear Leo is thriving. Taz never entirely lost the slightly off balance thing but is improved mightily and she has gained back all her weight and is now back to ruling the house against the kittens, who now pretty much know their place in the world...Jill just curled up in arms while I'm typing...cute.

Check in later.

Barb B said...

I thought I was going to finish this one without red letters, but the southwest corner confused me Couldn’t decide whether Estevan should be Gloria or Emilio, and couldn’t figure out PAINTER’S CHOICE. Of course it looks obvious now.

Also had trouble with PAK and PIG. I like having PAK and LAHORE in the same puzzle, but it didn’t help. Both came with the crosses, and didn’t clue me in. LET and NET MEN were unattainable for me too.
Same with the theme. I guessed the phrases, but didn’t see what they had in common. I don’t like to think about working the puzzles without CC’s help.

Two favorites -RUNNER ON SECOND and THIN.

JD, I agree that there comes a time when braless is not the kind of excitement I like. My coworkers paid a surprise visit last Friday after I called in sick. Still in my pj’s, I wanted to just hold the flowers in front of me for the duration. ☺

KittyB, thanks for commenting on the OBOE. I knew you would know.

KittyB said...

Barb, just say something about a musical instrument and I'm off and running! lol

I have to agree with you, WM, JD and Clear Ayes on the braless situation. I envy Jane Russell, some days, having her bra engineered by Howard Hughes for the movie 'The Outlaw.' I'd sure like to have my own aeronautical engineer to work on the problem of lift.

We talked about Kris Kristofferson yesterday, and I happened to see 'Millennium,' a so-so sci-fi movie. At least, it was so-so until the end when it was dreadful! Kristofferson is quite the Renaissance Man, but acting is not one of his greater abilities.

JD said...

Kathleen, here's some music for a very HOT day, and wonderful to paint by:
ENYA

BarbB @ 1:56 LOL!

KittyB-enjoyed the info on the orchestra; I know nothing about music. I took beginning piano for my teaching credential.I played the guitar in my classroom until I got nodes on my vocal chords.

Abogato-What a great trip that will be. We took a bus tour while we were there, but I liked renting head sets and driving around listening to the history.

JD said...

mmmmm, it doesn't want to open

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvOeDWynY4o&feature=related

embien said...

28:33 today. I literally LOLed when I finally saw PAK for the Ind. neighbor. What a great clue/entry.

I had MALLET instead of SLEDGE in the lower sw corner, and that caused much pain before I got it straightened out. Last fill was PIG--didn't see that coming.

I continue to be amazed by awesome fill. Who knew TRIP THE LIGHT FANTASTIC was exactly 21 letters? Amazing!

Did anyone mention ROAD KILL? ROAD RAGE? ROAD RASH (motorcyclist's term)? How about ROAD LESS TRAVELLED?

embien said...

I played oboe in early high school (very hard instrument to play). I suppose we were never in tune enough that it made a difference which instrument we tuned to, but I did get that privilege. I switched to saxophone for marching band (you can't really march and play oboe).

I have to echo @clear ayes' comment. Antietam is an amazing place to visit. It's interesting that the battle is called Antietam by the Union, but Sharpsburg by the Confederacy. I've forgotten the reason for that.

I've never been to Gettysburg, but hope to one day.

WM said...

JD...thanks...I am definitely picking up some CD's tomorrow.

The thermometer says 94...the one at the bank about a half mile away says 103...either way, WHEW! I staying indoors and praying for fog.

Linda said...

Afternoon, All ya`ll:
Had to have lots of "help"...such a long puzzle for a lazy day...and tacos aren`t a snack at out house...they are a full-blown meal. Words which are hard to remember their spelling always trip me up, "Geena" "Dalai" "loess" "Arte", but then, that`s probably on purpose.

To add to the CW Battlefield talk, Vicksburg Memorial Field is also quite moving...and quite incensing! The South put up memorials first and it appears to me that the "Nawth" was bent on outdoing the South as each northern state`s memorial became more ornate/elaborate. They are beautiful...but it just seems to me that those yankees found yet another way to outdo the CSA. (and I think I just channeled Granny Clampett!)

windhover said...

Linda, re channeling Granny Clampett:

It's no wonder, didn't she and Jed live in your vicinity before the big move to Beverly (Hills, that is)?

BTW: I agree pretty much with your movie reviewing. I don't mind so much the language, but the violence very literally makes me sick. I'm pretty much limited to comedies. The violence, whether meant to be shocking or cathartic, is desensitizing, much like the recent comments here about video games.
It's as American as apple pie, though.

tfrank said...

Greetings all,

Another great puzzle today. I finished in about an hour and a half with pencil and paper and no help! I made one mistake; I had abets for abuts, but otherwise, perfect. I feel smug enough today to question the use of red letter help; is it not a little on the cheating side?

Re Civil War battlefields, I grew up about 15 miles from the Vicksburg park, and one of my favorite Sunday afternoon outings was to visit that park. It had observation towers (built long after the war) which you could climb to get a birds eye view of an area. I agree with Linda that the Yankees far outspent us on memorial construction, but was not aware of this as a child.

I would like to see Gettysburg before I die. I have read many accounts of that battle, and have never understood that charge on the third day, which lost the battle.

Have a good evening.

Linda said...

Windhover:

You worse thin a infernal revenooer, sniffin` out a still!!

KittyB said...

tfrank, I use red letter help often, because I have limited time available to do the puzzle. I suppose it is "cheating" in that it's a form of help, as is Googling.

Just think of the sense of accomplishment you have when you can say that you completed the puzzle without ANY help! When I have the time, I'll take that step and have to deal with that learning curve.

WM said...

KittyB...I think the point is that we have fun and learn as we go...if I remember correctly, C.C. said that getting help isn't cheating...it isn't a contest and no one is handing out awards or grades for speed or completion. I think the enjoyment is in the process...I have tossed several of the NYT puzzles in my puzzle book just because the clues/answers were so incredibly obscure that there was no joy in solving them and our time is valuable whether we have jobs to go to or are retired. I admire the fact that you can do them online...that makes me crazy...LOL

Linda...I'd watch out for WH...he'll suss you out b4 you know it...

#3

Jazzbumpa said...

Kitty -
You pretty much covered it. I'll just add that the jazz band tunes to the piano.

But wait - there's more. I just remembered that if the symphony orch. is playing a piano concerto, the oboe will tun to the piano, then the orchestra to the oboe. Tradition, I guess?!?

Well, I'm sorry to say I never got the PIG - PAK cross. I'm gong to blame this on last night's bout of insomnia. Yeah - that's the ticket.

Watched one my granddaughters perform Irish dance at a community festival this afternoon. Watching is about all I could handle, but did get a few pix. feeling very sleepy . . .

Cheers!

Chickie said...

Hooray--I finished my first Sunday puzzle. Our paper publishes the NYT puzzle on Sunday. Today I printed out the LAT puzzle and enjoyed it very much.

I actually knew Heaton, Atlas Shrugged ant Test Ban Treaty. This really helped me get started--even though I skipped all over and filled in what I could before i finished it all.

I liked net grazer because of the Wimbeldon Matches today. Clever clues today were pen pal and Like a good loser. They were head scratchers at first, but the aha moment came with the fills around them.

Hot Hot here today. Have stayed indoors. Our internet connection has been down most of the afternoon, so I sat and read.

Argyle said...

Roadblock
Road Atlas
Roadhouse
Road Trip
Roadshow
Road-test
Roadrunner
(David Cromer's)

Roadkill
Road Rage
Roadwork
(C.C.'s)

Road Warrior
(Martin's)

Road Rash
Road Less Travelled
(embien's)

Road Agent - a highwayman, thief.
Road Scholar - Professional truck driver (take off on Rhodes Scholar)
Road Hog
(Argyle's)

Argyle said...

I almost forgot...

Road Race

Clear Ayes said...

Thanks for mentioning Vicksburg. I knew there was another battle site park we had visited on our trip but my mind blanked out (again). It is a spectacular place to visit. We also toured the McRaven House while we were in Vicksburg. We hadn't planned on it, but as I now recall, a gentleman at the park recommended it to us. It was well worth the side trip.

Don't forget Road Movie. Some of the great ones were Easy Rider, Thelma and Louise and even The Wizard of Oz. One of my favorites was 1977's Vanishing Point, which starred a 1970 Dodge Challenger.

Clear Ayes said...

Southerners, please say that you're just a-funnin the rest of us about caring which States have the most ostentatious memorial displays at Vicksburg.

According to the NPS the northern States had erected six individual memorials by 1907 and eleven by 1920. The southern States had erected one by 1907 and only four by 1920. It looks to me like the northern States were competing amongst themselves for bragging rights, not in order to show up the southern States that generally came to the game later.

Most admirable were Missouri and Kentucky, which erected memorials to honor their fallen soldiers on both sides of the war.

I don't have a dog in that fight (Thanks, Dr. Phil), since I'm just a measly 2nd generation American.

KQ said...

I thought I was going to breeze through this one when I filled in STEEL TOED without any other letters, but I was sadly mistaken. I did get about 2/3 of the puzzle before asking for help though. Exhaustion from the weekend didn't help.

I agree with many of the favorite clues, and would never have figured out the theme without CC. You amaze me!

As for going bra less, there probably is an age where we should stop. It is refreshing though isn't it. For the record, Patricia Heaton had both a tummy tuck and a breast lift. While she may look great, it was only with some help.

CC - Loni Anderson was the blonde sex symbol in "WKRP In Cincinatti" in the 70's. I always thought she looked a little to fake, but she was good in the part. She married Burt Reynolds at one point. She is from St. Paul, and her career started at the Old Log Theater in Excelsior, MN.

Those are my facts for the day. Off to bed to catch some z's and recover from the weekend.

Anonymous said...

There once was a girl from Lahore,
Who looked the same from behind as before.
As no one knew where
To offer a chair,
She had to sit down on the floor.

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:35 is Doreen. I forgot to sign my name. Sorry

donnie said...

Would someone please explain to someone who is never able to finish the Sunday puzzle, "What does red letter help mean?"

Zhouqin (C.C.) Burnikel said...

Donnie,
When you go to LA Times website and solve the puzzle on line, your incorrect fills will appear in red color. So you know you are wrong.