Jun 17, 2012

Sunday June 17, 2012 Gareth Bain

Theme: "Double-O Seven" - O is replaced by OO in 7 common phrases.

23A. Where chicks learn their ABCs? : KINDERGARTEN COOP. Kindergarten Cop.

34A. Midday duelers? : NOON COMBATANTS. Non-combatants.

59A. Establishment boasting whiskey and pedicures? : BEAUTY SALOON. Beauty salon.

71A. Lowdown on Wrigley's? : BUBBLEGUM POOP. Bubblegum pop. Unfamiliar with this music genre.

82A. Deposit on a brownstone entrance? : STOOP PAYMENT. Stop payment.

105A. Quaint caption for a cavalry photo? : HERE BE DRAGOONS. Here be dragons. This base phrase is also new to me.

124A. Question about a noisy pet owl? : HOOT ENOUGH FOR YOU. Hot enough for you?

There are a few straying O's which are unreplaced (and irreplaceable) in 34A & 124A. Can't be too strict in this situation. Otherwise, we'd have lost the fun entries.

A few OOs in non-theme entries also. I bet Gareth Bain considered not to include them but eventually kept them as he wanted solid fill. And his fill is always, always solid.

Some of you probably are not aware of this: Gareth is based in South Africa and his English features "flavour" rather than our "flavor". So he faces some serious challenges in his crossword construction & solving.

Across:

1. Mell Lazarus comics matriarch : MOMMA. Gimmie, eddyB?

6. Clublike weapons : MACES

11. Latin trio member : AMAT (He loves). Amo, amas, AMAT.

15. Son of Homer : BART. 61D. 15-Across's Squishee provider : APU. The Kwik-E-Mart owner.

19. Bite the bullet, e.g. : IDIOM

20. Inundated : AWASH

21. Chorus syllables : LA LA. Hi there Linda.

22. On the quieter side : ALEE

26. Colorful horse : ROAN

27. Keying in : ENTERING

28. Switch ending : EROO. Switcheroo.

29. President after Calvin : HERBERT (Hoover)

31. Critical hosp. area : ICU

32. Witticism : MOT

33. Bizet's "Habanera," e.g. : ARIA

42. Mushrooms, say : GROWS. Did you want FUNGI also?

46. Irish-born actor Milo : O'SHEA

47. Nina who had a 1959 hit with "I Loves You, Porgy" : SIMONE. Why bad grammar in the song title, Argyle?

48. Slow-on-the-uptake response : OH, I GET IT. I say this often.

51. Little green men : ALIENS

53. Web or sky follower : CAM

54. Do some gliding : SOAR

55. She played WKRP's Jennifer : LONI (Anderson)

56. Parka feature : HOOD

57. Chapter of a sort : ERA

63. They connect stories : STAIRS. Not the tale stories.

67. Champagne toast? : SALUT. Champagne the wine region in France.

66. Mailing H.Q. : GPO

68. Part of a gig : MEG. OK, Gigabyte, Megabyte. 1 Gig = 1024 Meg.

76. Little green men : ETs

77. British noblemen : EARLS

79. __ Jima : IWO

80. Mistreat : ILL-USE

87. Literary preposition : O'ER

88. Antarctica's __ Ice Shelf : ROSS. What's the difference between ice shelf and ice sheet?

92. Barflies : SOTS

93. Family depiction : TREE. Lots of people here in MN has (Correction: have!) Norwegian/Swedish background. Do you have Scandinavian blood also, D-Otto?

94. Unprocessed : RAW

96. Peloponnesian War side : SPARTA. Against Athens.

98. Yellow turnip : RUTABAGA. This looks delicious. Where is our foodie Steve?


100. Hot pot spot : TRIVET

103. Special forces unit : A TEAM

104. Ring centerpiece : STONE. Unlike Irish Miss, I wear no ring. How about you?

108. Highlander : GAEL

111. Facilities, for short : LAV

112. Greek securities org. : ASE. Athens Stock Exchange. Unknown to me.

113. Lady in a harbor : LIBERTY. Statue of Liberty.

116. Yemeni seaport : ADEN

118. Decisive experiment : ACID TEST

123. Avocado's shape : OVAL

127. Brain part : LOBE. CrossEyedDave's brain is wired with some real fun stuff.

128. Whenever : ONCE

129. Bottled benefactor : GENIE

130. Wields a hoe : WEEDS

131. God of hawks? : ARES. War god, hence "of hawks" with "?".

132. Retired boomers : SSTs

133. Barack's second High Court appointee : ELENA (Kagan)

134. Grammy winner Jones : NORAH. Like her voice, Bill? Congrats on the anniversary, by the way!

Down:

1. Lecturer's aid : MIKE

2. God with raven messengers : ODIN

3. Register freebie : MINT

4. Statistical calculation : MODE

5. "__ Pie" : AMERICAN. Too much. I prefer "American Graffiti".

6. Wine buys : MAGNUMS

7. Like happy tails : AWAG

8. Airport rental : CAR

9. Italian noble family : ESTE

10. Civil War general with a Shawnee middle name : SHERMAN. William Tecumseh Sherman. New trivia to me.

11. "Jo's Boys" author : ALCOTT

12. Red Guard leader : MAO. The Red Guards were all students, from middle school to colleges.

13. Dual-purpose island word : ALOHA

14. Become thinner : TAPER

15. Campy 1968 Fonda title role : BARBARELLA. Dennis won't forgive Jane Fonda.

16. Burn remedy : ALOE

17. Seat warmer? : REAR. Fun clue.

18. Hiking gear item : TENT

24. Wealthy, in Juárez : RICO

25. "For __": Beatles' song : NO ONE

30. "The Avengers" co-star : RIGG (Diana)

34. Saver of pairs : NOAH. Thanks for Noah's Ark info, Rose.

35. Scandinavian capital : OSLO

36. Indiana neighbor : OHIO

37. They may be pressing : NEEDS

38. Antacid option : BICARB

39. Docs' lobby: Abbr. : AMA

40. Pyramid, perhaps : TOMB

41. Chimney schmutz : SOOT

43. Two-time Oscar nominee for portraying Henry II : O'TOOLE (Peter). Did not know this trivia either.

44. Triumph against odds : WIN OUT

45. Tours of duty : STINTS

49. Small sum of money, slangily : HAY

50. Org. with many unhappy returns? : IRS. I like this clue also.

52. 12-time Pro Bowl NFLer Junior : SEAU. So sad. You never know what's going on in others' life.

54. Finland, in Finland : SUOMI. New word to me.

58. Umbrella spoke : RIB

60. Spur : EGG ON

62. Egyptian snakes : ASPS

64. Recipe amt. : TBSP

65. Icky stuff : SLIME

68. Mr. and Mr. : MESSRS

69. Give the cook a day off, perhaps : EAT OUT. I'm the cook in our house.

70. Cavern : GROTTO

72. Woolly mammal : EWE. So, who's the one who might make a EWE turn?

73. Worked the fields : PLOWED

74. José's hooray : OLE

75. Partly mine : OURS

78. California's most populous county : LOS ANGELES. MJ sent me the LA Times newspaper with my first solo puzzle, I was so moved. I'm lucky to have many caring readers, and a first-class blogging team.

81. Poets' Muse : ERATO

83. Gp. to benefit students : PTA

84. Bol. neighbor : ARG

85. "Woo-hoo!" : YEAH

86. Salt Lake City daily, briefly : TRIB

89. One dunked after school : OREO

90. One of the Berenstains : STAN. Stan and Jan Berenstain. And 99. Berenstain critter : BEAR

91. Wal-Mart wholesale club : SAM'S

95. Monopoly abbr. : AVE

97. Computer scrolling key : PAGE DOWN

100. Bit of sports news : TRADE. Are you surprised by R. A. Dickey's continued dominance? He was a Twin.

101. Dish best served cold, so it's said : REVENGE

102. Respiratory conduit : TRACHEA.

106. Causes to beam : ELATES

107. "Dream on!" : AS IF

109. Value system : ETHOS

110. Rhone's capital : LYONS

113. Kinks hit whose title is spelled out in the lyrics : LOLA. " ... I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said Lola L-O-L-A Lola Lo lo lo lo Lo - la..."

114. Novello of old films : IVOR

115. Ruth not in the Bible : BABE. Sweet!

117. Holiday song : NOEL

118. Votin' no on : AGIN

119. Palm smartphone : TREO

120. Observer : EYER

121. Happy Meal option : SODA

122. Fanny : TUSH

125. Mo. known for color changes : OCT

126. A in French? : UNE. "?" is unnecessary.

Answer grid.

C.C.

40 comments:

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

No puzzle for me today -- to celebrate Father's Day, I am up early and taking my son on a fishing trip...

Splynter said...

Hi There ~!

Easy breezy puzzle, with fun themes. I see Lola again, as well as O'Toole....

Crossed up ODIN with ARES, and then he's down at the bottom, and again with PLOWS for WEEDS, and yet there it was at 73D anyway~!

Yes, I wanted FUNGI, too, and I also had SET for part of a "gig" - that took a while to sink in.

I'm off to see dad at the nursing home for Father's Day.

Splynter

Yellowrocks said...

Yes, Splynter, it was an easy breezy puzzle today, except that I didn't trust SEAU. I set the puzzle aside for half an hour and then let SEAU stand. 52A had to be ERA. I liked the theme and the solid fill.

Wikipedia has an interesting article on ICE SHELF.

Deposit on a brownstone entrance? I immediately thought STOOP POOP. Those dang pigeons!

My father and my sons' father have both passed on, so today is pretty much a normal Sunday here. My son and I might have a patio picnic this evening. To you and yours, I wish a happy Father's Day

Lucina said...

Good day, puzzlers. C.C., it's always great to "see" you.

Thank you for explaining 68A, MEG. I had no idea. Didn't know SEAU either though of course I knew of his sad demise but NRA seemed right for chapter. ERA makes more sense though.

Happy Fathers Day all you Dads, Step-dads, Granddads, et al. I hope your families make it special for you.

I usually enjoy Gareth Bain's puzzles and I sashayed through this one fairly quickly. Laughed at the theme entries AWASH in OOs. Thanks, Gareth, for including my mother's name, LALA, as well as LalaLinda's

My older granddaughter's paternal ancestry is Finnish which is evident by her height, 5'7" and still growing.

i guess the Simpsons appear in South Africa, too, judging from Gareth's ease with BART and APU.

MERLOT was my first choice for wine at 6D until MAGNUM outweighed it.

Really great clues for bottled benefactor, GENIE and god of hawks, ARES.

SALUT to all on this lovely Sunday, especially you Fathers!

Lemonade714 said...

Happy Father's day to all. gareth you always deliver a great puzzle, and as C.C. mentioned, you are not based in the US, but you always have such varied Americana in your clues, like the tribe Sherman's middle name was from.

The OO OO theme reminded me of Gunther Tootie, anyone else?

ROSS ICE SHELF .

Youngest is on his way, take care and thanks C.C. and all the one who make you glad you do all this work.

Hahtoolah said...

Good Morning C.C. and friends. I thought we might get a Father's Day puzzle today. HOOT ENOUGH FOR YOU was my Rosetta Stone which helped me get the other theme clues.

Some fun clues. I liked They Connect Stories = STAIRS. I had several OH, I GET IT moments with this puzzle.

More General William T. Sherman trivia (I didn't know his middle name was a Shawnee word): He was the Superintendent of the precursor of what is now the Louisiana State University.

I liked seeing double on the Little Green Men: ALIENS and ETs.

Milo O'SHEA probably makes more appearances in crossword puzzles than he does in the movies.

I wear a wedding band on one hand on on the other, I have a diamond and ruby ring that was a gift on a milestone birthday.

QOD: A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon without springs. It's jolted by every pebble on the road. ~ Henry Ward Beecher

Middletown Bomber said...

fun puzzle today. Father's Day starting late today as my wife is on a girl's overnight so I am the Dad time to make the coffee and breakfast for the boy. Golf with Father in Law and Gourmet Pizza at the new restaurant where the red neck biker's bar used to be.

Fly_Navy said...

Good morning,

A nice puzzle.

"Here be dragons" is I believe a legend on ancient maps used to indicate terra ingognito.

"Once" as an answer for 128A "Whenever" didn't make sense until I thought of a usage in which "once" didn't mean "one time": Once I did that I got it.

I have one blank square, the intersection between 134A and 119D. iPhones only in this family, and I don't know who Norah Jones is. If I were in a contest I would have guessed "O" as most likely for a name. Narah? Yes, several people pop up on Google named Narah, but not as many as Norah. As for nonsensical names for gadgets, is TREO more likely than TREA?

Happy Father's Day Dad, I miss you.

desper-otto said...

Good morning, all.

I was a little slow on the uptake this morning. For President after Calvin, I wrote in HOOVER...but had a space left over, so I immediately over-wrote it with HARDING. That really slowed me down in the NE.

When I got to 105A I penned in HERE BE DRAGOONS without evening thinking. CC, on old maps, pre-1500, unknown ocean areas were often labeled Here Be Dragons. And you didn't miss anything by arriving here too late for Bubble Gum Pop -- that's music, not soda.

Fun puzzle.

HeartRx said...

Good morning C.C. et al.

Fun theme today. Thanks for the expo, C.C. I did fall into the “fungi” trap instead of GROWS for “Mushrooms”. I also wanted “set” instead of MEG for “Part of a gig”. (I was thinking of a jazz gig.) Had to chuckle at your comment on EWE turn…

SUOMI was a gimme, because my dad was from Finland. If he were still with us, we would have a very Happy father’s day. So I will just wish all of you other fathers out there a very happy celebration today!

Nick said...

Dang, did you guys take heed of my advice on Monday or did you all know Berenstein Bears trivia?

And yes, the entry to not let your kids see is BUBBLEGUMPOOP (although they can beat that if they have Wacky Packages).

Don't panic, I won't "comment" on 5D, although I hope you all still find good movies today and don't have to hold onto the past.

For the record, 30D is supposed to be JACKSON, RUFFALO, DOWNEYJR, HEMSWORTH, EVANS, HIDDLESTON, JOHANSSON, RENNER, SKARSGARD, GREGG, or SMULDERS. (They're all stars to me).

Anonymous said...

why the bad grammar in 93A?
.....lotS of people has......
(many)or lots of people have.....

Grumpy 1 said...

Good morning, C.C. and Sunday solvers. Thank's for the fine write up.

I looked at the title and had a pretty good idea that we would find 'OO' seven times, and confirmed that it was 'add an O' with NOON COMBATANT.

I see I'm in good company with fungi before GROWS.

Misread 'gig' as 'part of a pig'. Fortunately, it filled itself with perps, as did a few other entries that might have been troublesome.

Thanks for a fun puzzle, Gareth.

Anonymous said...

I'm curious - why do people post to say they're not going to post?

Anonymous said...

OHIGETIT - if he didn't, we would all assume the worst.

desper-otto said...

Anon@9:17 -- What would be the proper subject/verb agreement in Chinese?

C.C., thanks for the shoutout, but no, there's no Norwegian blood here. There were plenty of Norwegians in central Wisconsin where I grew up. There's even the small town of Scandinavia in my home county. People's names in that part of the north sound like something you'd hear on Prairie Home Companion. For example, the two prettiest girls in my grade school were Irmgaard Krubsack and Lorna Robenhagen. My name is equally musical.

Irish Miss said...

Good morning all:

Fun, clever puzzle, Gareth, and a great expo. CC. Thanks for the shout out. Had Scot before Gael but everything else went smoothly.

We are enjoying a stretch of beautiful weather but it's going to get very hot ((90's) midweek. Ah well, it's summer!

Happy Father's Day to all dads out there and happy Sunday to all!

eddyB said...

Right CC. Momma not carried in local Merc but I follow it on line at Yahoo Comics. A lot of gimmies in this one. It was a delight to solve.

Love Ms Jones. Have her latest CD.

100 yesterday. A little cooler today.

No ring either. Always had my hands
in live electrical chassises.

take care all. eddy

Spitzboov said...

Good morning C.C. and all.

Well, KINDERGARTEN COOP. Kiss my Coon dog!. Interesting set of theme clues and fill. Not too difficult; no searches needed. SUOMI was a gimme; it's on their stamps. C.C. , on ROSS, good question. In one way they mean the same thing. Shelf is used, when it is used, for fixed ice; that is a sheet of ice attached to the shore, as in a bay, and not moving. A sheet of ice would be thought of as afloat and unanchored, and if there is current, moving with it. The Ross Shelf is so large and permanent that it is a map feature of Antarctica.

Bill G. have no fear, we read the late blog even if it is the next morning. Lotsa good stuff there.

Happy Fathers Day to all the Dads.

Have a great day.

Jayce said...

Hello everybody and happy fathers day to all of you fathers out there. Took my wife out for breakfast this morning, or maybe it is she who took me out. Anyway, we went on a "date" to Mimi's, and now we both remember why, the last time we ate there, we promised ourselves we wouldn't bother ever going there again.

Nifty puzzle today. Sorta clecho-y, what with god with ravens and god of hawks, and the little green men that Hahtoolah pointed out.

Hand up for wanting fungi. So cool to see mushrooms as a verb.

Good one, Lucina! "MAGNUM outweighed it." :)

No, Hobbes was not the president after Calvin.

I stopped wearing my wedding band after I kept damaging it and the finger it was wrapped around from doing hands-on work. I still have it in a box on my dresser, but I've "grown" and it is way too small for me now.

Gotta love fill such as TRACHEA!

Wanted either veni, vidi, or vici for 11A, until ALOHA set me straight.

Best wishes to you all.

Mary in Oregon said...

"Why bad grammar in the song title, Argyle?"

This song is from "Porgy & Bess", a musical from 1930s by Gershwin depicting Black people in the South. The entire score (lyrics and dialogue) is written in a patois considered to depict how Blacks spoke. I don't know how it is regarded by today's standards.

This was the fastest, easiest Sunday puzzle I've ever done! Enjoyed it immensely.

Lucina said...

Porgy and Bess is currently playing on Broadway and one of the stars, Audra McDonald, won a Tony for her performance.

Vegas Doc said...

Here's a thought - if you believe the movie American Pie is Ickier than Slime, just replace the connotation with the Don McLean song from 1971.

Speaking of the 70s, I always connect Bubble Gum Pop with David Cassidy. Nowadays I guess that would be the Biebermeister....

Fairly straightforward puzzle today, although I initially penned in Loo for Lav, hence Score instead of Trade - thank Gods for perps!

Happy Fathers Day to all, now its off to phone my dad, who turned 90 a couple of weeks ago.

Avg Joe said...

Bubble

Gum

Pop

Yechh!

:-)

Hahtoolah said...

Vegas Doctor: The American Pie movie never entered my head. I just thought of the Don MacLean song, which was big when I was a kid. I loved that song ~ still do.

My cat is doing much better. When I dropped her off at the vet on Friday, I was afraid that she might not survive the weekend. The vet gave her some meds and she is clearly in much better spirits.

Happy Father's Day to all the Dads and Granddads out there.

Yellowrocks said...

I filled in BUBBLEGUMPOP, but had entirely the wrong picture. I didn't know it referred to music. Here is what I thought of:
Link Blow Pop

As per Wikipedia:
“An ice shelf is a thick floating platform of ice that forms where a glacier or ice sheet flows down to a coastline and onto the ocean surface. Ice shelves are only found in Antarctica, Greenland and Canada. “

“In contrast, sea ice is formed on water, is much thinner (typically less than 3m), and forms throughout the Arctic Ocean. It also is found in the Southern Ocean around the continent of Antarctica.”

IMO It seems a glacier is an ice sheet. When it forms on land and flows onto the ocean, it becomes an ice shelf. When ice forms on water it is called sea ice.

PK said...

Really fun puzzle, Gareth! Thanks, C.C.!

Thanks to whoever posted a link to some music recently that lead to me listening to Nina Simone's version of 47A. Her version is such a quiet intimate pillow-talk song that it was outstanding. I never heard of her before that, but remembered the name.

I read once that the Gershwins were very much wanting to get the black patois correct for the opera. They spent a lot of time with the black community just listening so it would be authentic. I have always loved the music. Very moving.

As for 71A I didn't think of music just bubblegum residue all over the face. Bubblegum poop--wouldn't that be when a kid swallows his gum several days in a row rather than stick it on the bottom of the desk when the teacher says, "Get rid of it," and gets constipated.

PK said...

I clicked onto a webcast on Thursday where I'd never been before and my computer froze up. Nothing would let me change it.

So I've been on BLOG withdrawal for three days.
Yikes! Had to resort to cleaning my filthy house to ward off withdrawal anxiety.

Geek called me back today and offered to come over. I booked him for Tuesday, then tried once more to click on the screen. The blackout subsided this time. Think someone on the webcast site must have found the problem.

Won't have to shell out Geek money. Yay! I'm back on line, Yay!

NW George said...

Putting in WAD instead of Hay for Small amount of money slowed me down in that area. Didn't know Obama's appointee, so had to trust the crosses (had to look up the spelling of trachea).
CC: Ballard (Seattle) is 99.99% Norwegian (DW = 3/4 Norwegian). Ballard was annexed into Seattle using illegal means (poisoning the well, setting fires, etc.). We're still trying to reverse it. FREE BALLARD!

Bill G. said...

Happy Father's Day everybody!

Good puzzle. Once I sussed out the theme, it definitely helped with the rest of the solving. Otherwise, WEES.

I used to wear a matching wedding ring early on but I took it off years ago when playing a faculty-student ball game and lost it somewhere on the field, so no wedding ring ever since.

Barbara and my kids solicited my opinion about when we should go out for Father's Day. I suggested lunch Saturday to avoid the crowds. But, we went out today. I was asked where. I picked out a place with a nice brunch. But my kids wanted to go to a Thai restaurant. Oh well. It turned out very nicely and we enjoyed the visit.

My new favorite little coffee shop is giving away free lattes to fathers this afternnon. So that's where I'll be heading in a couple of hours. The Dodgers game will fill up the interim.

I hope all the fathers (and everybody else) are having a pleasant day.

Bill G. said...

Did you see the segment on Sunday Morning today about the young man with Down's Syndrome who owns a restaurant (given to him by his father) and who gives away free hugs to all the customers?

Then there was Bill Geist's take on being Father of the Bride. Good stuff!

LaLaLinda said...

Hi Everyone ~~

Happy Father's Day to all the Corner Dads!

A fun puzzle that I managed to finish without too many problems. However, I didn't actually "finish" since when I came here I found I had a few errors that I didn't even catch. I completely missed the M in MEGS and MESSRS - just left it blank. And I had plenty of coffee! I also had BEAR filled in twice - both at 90 and 99D. I knew one was bear, but completely missed STAN. Oh well, it was enjoyable and I really liked some of the cluing - especially 'Hot pot spot' - TRIVET and 'Family depiction' - TREE. The theme answers were also very clever.

I paused in a couple of spots : On 71A "Lowdown of Wrigley's' I was trying to make it about baseball and the Cubs (the Red Sox will be playing them in about an hour) - it took me a while to "see" the GUM in the clue. Also - lately when I see the often used 'Retired boomers' as a clue, I think of myself ~ I am one! :-) I did get SSTS, though. Thanks, Gareth Bain, for a fun morning.

Thank you, C.C. for showing me the error of my ways and for the LALA. I do wear rings but only three: a wedding ring, an amethyst ring - my birthstone, and a gold pinky ring.

Hahtoolah ~ it made my day to read that your kitty is feeling better. I hope the meds will continue to work their magic!

Abejo said...

Good evening, folks. Thank you, Gareth Bain, for a swell puzzle. Pretty tough, though. Thank you, C.C., for the write-up.

My first answer was MACES for 6A. Got AMA for 11A. ad to wait awhile to fill in the T. Bart was easy because of crosswords. Have never seen the show.

Then I started bouncing around.

My first theme answer was BUBBLE GUM POOP. Then STOOP PAYMENT. All the themes helped with the puzzle.

BEAUTY SALOON was my last to get. Took me a while. Worked on this from Minneapolis to Chicago, in bits and pieces.

I wear no rings or watches and have not for over 40 years. I used to carry a pocket watch (electronic) but now I use my cell phone. It was a safety thing with the company I worked for, Automatic Electric.

Good to be home. My two daughters congratulated me on Fathers Day.

see you tomorrow.

Abejo

fermatprime said...

Greeting!

Thanks Gareth, CC! Nice puzzle. No problems. (But stared at SEAU for a while.)

Watched Goodfellas this afternoon. Had long forgotten it, if I had ever watched it. Banner performances.

Cheers!

Yellowrocks said...

Monday AM- I was thinking about what I said about ICESHELF at 1:56 yesterday and relating it to icebergs. An ICESHELF is still attached to the glacier.

An iceberg is a large piece of ice from freshwater that has broken off from a snow- formed glacier or ice shelf and is floating in open water

Grumpy 1 said...

But how do they grow that lettuce on those chunks of ice??

Turmaline said...

This was not the puzzle in the L.A. Times. Why the error?

Argyle said...

Not an error. For some unknown reason, the paper runs Merl Reagle's Sunday puzzle while their own Rich Norris-edited puzzle is only found in syndication.

Some solvers have it in their local paper and others like myself, do it online.

Would you like to see the Crossword Corner cover it?

Turmaline said...

It is not in the L.A. Times, so maybe you should change the caption on the answers page.
The best thing would be to cover the real L.A. Times puzzle too.

Argyle said...

I say again: the L.A. Times does not carry the L.A. Times Sunday crossword, link; they run Merl Reagle's Sunday puzzle.

Maybe you should find a paper that carries the LAT Sunday puzzle or take up your complaint with LA Times management.