Jul 30, 2014

Wednesday, July 30, 2014 Gareth Bain

Theme: I GIVE UP.  The last words of the theme entries are indications of surrendering, so as to avoid suffering further damage.  Your opponent wins, and - if he is honorable - you get to go somewhere safe and lick your wounds. 

17 A. Stereotypical benefactor : RICH UNCLE.  Literal or figurative designation for financial backer.  I only had poor UNCLES, alas.  To cry "UNCLE" indicating submission, may or may not go back to ancient Rome.

36 A. Of age : OLD ENOUGH.  Having been alive for a sufficient period to drink, drive, vote, know better, etc.  "ENOUGH" indicates you don't want any more of whatever your abuser is dishing out.

42 A. "Understood" : SAY NO MORE.  OK - I got it.  "NO MORE" is another way of saying "ENOUGH"

And the unifier -- 62 A. Waved banner hinted at by the ends of 17-, 36- and 42-Across : WHITE FLAG.  This usage does go back to ancient Rome, and also the Han dynasty of China.  In modern times, the use of a white flag to indicate surrender is included in the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907

Hi gang, it's JzB, after a long hiatus, reunited with Gareth on a Wednesday.  We never can get ENOUGH of his puzzles, so I am not going to give up.  Let's SAY NO MORE on that topic, and dive into the solve.


1. Prepare, in a way, as sweet potatoes : MASH.  We add a bit of butter and sour cream.  Makes a nice companion dish for Gloria's orange and maple glazed salmon.

5. Says further : ADDS.  The opposite of SAY NO MORE.

9. Run away, say : REACT.  I suppose one could REACT to an unpleasantness by running away, but, unless I'm missing something, this is a far from obvious connection.

14. Entrepreneur's start : IDEA. Around which a business plan can be built.

15. Come together : MEET.

16. Come to pass : OCCUR.   Near clechoes.

19. Spherical dessert : BOMBE.  An Ice cream dessert molded in a half-spherical shape to resemble a cannon ball.  The only thing that explodes is your weight.

20. Airport city east of Los Angeles : ONTARIO.   I flew in there about 30 years ago.  IIRC, there are distant mountains in every direction.

21. One brewing in a cup : TEA LEAF.  Not a tempest. Mayhaps Nice Cuppa can provide details.

23. Many a Prado painting : GOYA.   Francisco José de Goya y Lucientes (1746–1828).  Here is the Prado on-line gallery of his work.

25. Baseball card stat : RBI. Runs Batted In.  BASEBALL!!!

26. Oranges opposite? : APPLES.  Different, for sure - but opposite?  Doubtful, but I won't let one bad APPLE spoil the whole puzzle.

30. "I'd just as soon kiss a Wookiee" speaker : LEIA.  Do I need to tell you this is from Star Wars?  Prob'ly not.

32. "__ Boys": "Little Men" sequel : JO'S.  Story of the boys' troubles as adults, and the only Louisa May Alcott novel that has not had a movie adaption.

35. Cowboy's neckwear : BOLO. By now everyone should recognize this as a string necktie.  So here is Bolo Yeung, who might be marginally more interesting.

38. Standoffish : ALOOF.  Remote.

40. Pull : TUG. Yank, jerk.

41. Friendly address : KIDDO.  Seems a bit condescending.

44. Opposite of alway : NE'ERAlway is an archaic form of alwaysNE'ER is a contraction of never, seldom or NE'ER encountered nowadays.   So I guess it's OK.

45. Appt. book divisions : HRS. Hours. N.B. abrvs.

46. Went up : ROSE.  Up toward the sky.

47. Saturated hydrocarbon : ALKANE.  Chemistry.  Saturated means all the available bonding locations on the carbon atoms are filled.  Thus, there are no C=C double bonds in the chain, which would contribute to instability.  The compounds are quite flammable, though.  Propane and butane [ 3 and 4 carbon ALKANES] are examples.  Gasoline is a complex mixture of hydrocarbons and additives, containing lots of pentane and hexane [5 ansd 6 carbon ALKANES.]

49. Had-at link : A GO.  Tried something.  I always think of Mitchell Anderson putting his move on Marian Wyman in Raymond Carver's poignant short story Will You Please Be Quiet, PleaseI do not recommend this dry analysis.

50. Trilogy, often : SAGA.  Originally an Old Norse prose narrative of heroic achievement, now any long and involved story.

52. Emcees' responsibilities : LEAD-INS.  Introductions to the main-line performers.

56. Gum with a longtime eyepatch-wearing mascot : BAZOOKA.  But BAZOOKA Joe did not fare well in the rebranding.

61. Calculus pioneer : EULER.  [Pronounced OILER] Leonhard, (1707 - 1783) a highly accomplished Swiss mathematician. I've often wondered why no technical school has a sports team nick-named the EULERS?

64. Ruffle : FRILL.  A a strip of fabric or lace gathered or pleated on one edge, and attached to a garment or other item as decoration.

65. Right hand : AIDE.  Figurative designation for an assistant

66. Ax : FIRE.  Job elimination.

67. Pledge drive bags : TOTES.  Carry-alls.  Also, in contemporary slang, short for Totally.  Habitual users can save as much as 26.6 seconds per day.

68. Apiary dwellers : BEES.  Not apes.

69. Convinced : SOLD.   Are you SOLD on Gareth's puzzle yet?  If not, let's move on.


1. Picasso contemporary : MIRO.   Joan Miró i Ferrà was a Catalan artist who wanted to upset the visual elements of established painting.

2. Score after deuce : AD IN.  In tennis, deuce indicates a tie score after both players have reached 40.  AD, short for advantage, indicates the next point has been scored.  If the server has the advantage it is AD IN, otherwise, AD out.

3. Shakers, but not movers : SECT.  This religious community splintered off from the Quakers in Northwest England in the mid-18th century.  They are known for gender equality and a celibate life style.  Second generation Shakers are thus somewhat rare.  They did give us this nice hymn, here put to good use by Aaron Copeland..

4. "The joke's on you" : HA HA.  Hope you thought it was funny.

5. Prenatal procedures : AMNIOS.  Short for amniocentesis, a rather risky procedure.

6. Deceptive military tactic : DECOY.  A diversionary PLOY.  You can read about it here.

7. "Runaway" singer Shannon : DEL.  Another clecho, and a classic song from my 'ute.

8. "Don't change that" : STET. Editor's mark.

9. Emulate Dillinger : ROB A BANK. I do not recommend this risky activity.  When Dillinger emulator Willie Sutton was asked why he robbed banks, he reportedly answered, "Because that's where the money is."

10. Gastroenteritis cause, perhaps : E-COLI.  Bacterium naturally occurring in the lower digestive tract that causes all sorts of problems when it gets into the wrong territory.

11. Pinnacle : ACME.  Apex.  Always need perps.

12. World Baseball Classic team : CUBA.

13. Nonkosher : TREF.  I can never remember this word.  It comes from a Hebrew root meaning something torn.

18. Strong desire : URGE

22. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's lake : ERIE.  In Cleveland.

24. Tempts : ALLURES.  Inspires URGES.

26. Make red-faced : ABASH.  To shame or embarrass.

27. Opposite : POLAR.  Extremely opposite.

28. Artful stratagems : PLOYS.  In A Game of Thrones, Petyr Baelish is the master of these cunning plans.

29. Fish-eating bird : LOON.  It is about the size of a large duck, but they are unrelated species.

31. What a slight favorite has : EDGE.

32. Where Herod ruled : JUDEA.  More old Roman, when JUDEA was a province in the empire.

33. City near the Great Salt Lake : OGDEN.

34. Vacation location : SHORE.  The fringe of land at the edge of a large body of water.  We just spent a week on the SHORE of Black Lake.

36. Plains people : OTOS.  Native American tribe.

37. Farm grunt : OINK.  From the sty.

39. Like pink toys, stereotypically : FOR GIRLS.  Indeed, there are few pink toys for boys.  Trust me, I looked.

43. Word after new or full : MOON.  The orbiting orb, going through phases.

47. Collectible marbles : AGATES.  I remember this term from my 'ute.

48. Kick back : LAZE. You can do this at the SHORE

49. "Chasing Pavements" singer : ADELE. I've heard worse pop songs.

51. "__ With Me": hymn : ABIDE.  I've heard worse hymns.

52. Took off : LEFT.  Departed [but not OFFED.] Split.  Exeunt stage left?

53. Capital of Belgium : EURO.  Money.

54. Landed : ALIT.  Atop something, I suppose.

55. DNA lab item : SWAB.  For collecting bio-samples.

57. Rubs out : OFFS.  Murders.

58. Little of this, little of that : OLIO.  Hodge podge.

59. Auto pioneer Benz : KARL.

60. Like fine port : AGED.  When do we know our port is OLD ENOUGH?  Hmmm.

63. Go in haste : HIE. Quickly, now.

Well, that wraps it up for another Wednesday.  Hope you made it through without having to surrender.
Cool regards!

Note from C.C.:

As Jazzbumpa mentioned in 34D, he and his family spent their summer vacation at Black Lake last week. Here are 3 sweet pictures:

From the left:
My daughter Karen, Samantha, Amanda, Me, Rebekka, Emily, daughter-in-law Lisa

 Me and my honey, swinging by the lake side.

The Flotilla
Rebekka, Nate, Samantha, Emily


Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

Not particularly difficult, but definitely a bit of an odd solving experience for me today.

I thought of MASH for 1A, but didn't enter it for awhile since I've never heard of or eaten mashed sweet potatoes and figured there must be some special way of preparing sweet potatoes other than mashing.

ALKANE was a complete unknown (and spell check doesn't like it).

Misread the clue for BOMBE as "spherical desert" and got a wee bit confused.

Isn't ONTARIO in Canada? Or is there also a city in California (with an airport) of the same name? "East of L.A" seems like an awfully broad clue if we're talking about something in a different country...

I've always thought of POLAR as a modifier of opposite, not a synonym of it. Does POLAR opposite literally mean opposite opposite?

Had OTOE instead of OTOS for awhile, which tripped me up a bit.

Shouldn't the clue for AMNIOS indicate an abbreviation? Or is it so common now that, like UKE (apparently), it doesn't need one?

Really liked the theme today, btw.

OwenKL said...

There once was a wise old French UNCLE
Who said, "Training pigs ENOUGH'll
GIVE them a good nose
For where fungus grows,
Otherwise there'll be NO MORE truffle!"


A Cryptic clue lesson from today's puzzle. This one combines a simple substitution and a simple charade to get a fairly complex clue.

Blue-green Elf has a replacing heart, and may foretell the future (3,4)

Big Easy said...

Good relatively cool Wednesday morning, especially for July. When I finished the puzzle with a WAG on JOS and was looking for a theme, I kept seeing RICH OLD WHITE, there was no 'man'. I found this a fairly easy mid-week puzzle with JOS BOMBE and ABIDE as the only unknowns.

Sweet potatoes- I love them baked with absolutely nothing added.

With that, I will do as Carlos Monzon said, ' NO MAS'.

OwenKL said...

"Fight or flee" is the classic REACTion response to danger, so I'd say run away fits.

DEL next to STET was a nice touch that I bet Rich messed up with that DEL Shannon clue.

WBS, including the complaints about POLAR & AMNIOS. (Neither my dictionary nor spellcheck likes AMNIO.

HeartRx said...

Great pics of the family, JzB. I loved the “flotilla” one! Funny you mentioned Willy Sutton. I am reading “Sutton” by J.R. Moehringer right now. It’s interesting at points, but kind of a slog to plough through some of his long-winded philosophizing. Not sure if I would recommend it at this point.

I had a hard time cracking this one at first. Like BarryG, I couldn’t figure out if 1-A would be “bake” or MASH, 9-A could have been “elope,” 14-A could have been “plan,” and so on. I finally started with the down clues and got my toehold at last. Thank you MIRO, AD IN, SECT, HA HA et al.

But the theme was really fun, and I didn’t have to cry UNCLE. So all’s good.

OwenKL, the correct editorial term is DELE, not DEL. So Shannon worked for me.

Happy Hump Day everyone!

Barry G. said...

OK, now that I've gotten the little guy off to camp and have a spare second to do a little Google searching, I see that there is, in fact, a city in California called ONTARIO. Learning moment for me!

Mari said...

Good morning everybody.

Nice puzzle today, and an excellent write-up!

I ran into a few words I was unfamiliar with, including: BOMBE, EULER, MIRO, and AMNIOS. Now that I think of it, I have heard of AMNIOgrams, etc.

I think BOMBE requires more study. I'll have to eat one.

Have a great day!

Anonymous said...

Ontario International Speedway

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Marching complete; shirt changed; ready to greet the day.

Of course I had a TEMPEST in my teapot, at least for a while. Plus I read ALWAY as AWAY, so NEER started out as NEAR until OGDEN fixed it.

JzB, I think APPLES can be the opposite of ORANGES: "We're comparing apples and oranges here."

Quiz: What TV series used DEL Shannon's Runaway as it's theme song?

Yellowrocks said...

This enjoyable puzzle took me longer than a normal Wed. although it was not really that difficult, just so many possibilities for each clue. But I was successful with no help. The only word new to me was ALKANE. I knew MIRO and EULER. EULER made me think of Fermatprime. Hi! I was looking for a fancier prep for sweet potatoes. I see that BOMBE comes from the French for bomb.

POLAR OPPOSITE is a pleonasm which means redundant phrasing. A pleonasm is also considered to be a tautology. Other common examples of pleonasms in writing include:
- burning fire, cash money, end result, all together and invited guests
I found AMNIO in the Free Online Dictionary and other references. It is listed as informal for amniocentesis, just as yesterday's orang was informal for orangutan or chimp for chimpanzee. None of these informal words are listed as abbreviations. In everyday conversation I hear AMNIO more frequently than the longer form.
However, some dictionaries cite amnio- only as a combining form.

thehondohurricane said...

It's Hump Day!

i remember when that expression had "a little more meaning" then it does today. Ah well, aging is better then the alternative.

Today was a difficult trek for me from the get go. eventually I began to fill in the squares from the bottom up. but the NE never clicked, thus resulting in a DNF.

IDEA & ONTARIO were the culprits. Of course, knew both of them, but not today when it counted. Also didn't have the E foe BOMBE, whatever it is.

Earlier in the week we had JAS, today JOS. JOS was curtesy of three perps.

Jzb, thanks for the write up. Always look forward to hearing from you.

GarlicGal said...

Yes, Barry G. as you found out, there is an Ontario in California. Besides the big speedway, just outside of Ontario there is a huge amphitheater in Devore. I mean out in the middle of nowhere or at least it was about 20 years ago. We flew into Ontario and drove out to see Jimmy Buffett in concert. (In my wild 'ute.) Not a whole lot else out there...

Puzzle was a little crunchy for me. It took me a few clues to finally get a toe hold. Yum! I love a good Bombe!

After a busy week, things are quieting down around here. We made it through the 105 degree heat last Friday - yes, crazy folks still came out all weekend to the Garlic Festival. 80,000+, down from 102,000 last year, but the non-profits will still earn a hefty sum!

Stay cool everyone.

Anonymous said...

I didn't like this puzzle.

Abejo said...

Good morning, folks. Thank you, Gareth Bain, for a fine puzzle. Thank you, Jazzbumpa, for a fine review.

This puzzle was not too bad. A few Downs and a few Acrosses and it all came together.

Have had many BOMBEs for dessert. Ice cream and chocolate are a great combination.

AMNIOS are common, I believe. We had them with our 22 year old when she was growing internally. I do not believe they are risky at all. All external testing, if I remember correctly. Well, I just asked my wife and she corrected me. Yes, they can risky. I was thinking of an ultrasound. My mistake.

ONTARIO was easy. I flew out of there continually when I lived in southern California. Major airport. I worked in Pomona, which is quite close.

ALKANE was an unknown. Six perps and it was mine.

TEA LEAF was easy. I brew them each morning, and sometimes through the day. I buy them two pounds at a time, at about $56. Earl Grey, of course.

My lake again, ERIE.

Remember BAZOOKA bubble gum very well. not sure if it is still around. I do not chew gum anymore due to continually biting my cheek or tongue. i never could chew calmly.

Liked the Shaker song, Jazzbumpa.

See you tomorrow.



Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

While I finished w/o help, there were a few stumbles: Yoda/Leia, mesh/meet, abase/abash. Thought of Abejo at tea leaf and Erie and of CC at olio and Tin at Like fine port.

I love Gareth's puzzles and enjoyed today's even though the theme was a mystery until the reveal. Thanks, Gareth, for a fun romp and thanks, JazzB for an equally fun expo. Very nice pictures, BTW, looks like everyone was having a great time.

Another nice day, cooler than normal, sunny, and no humidity. So far for the month of July, we have had 7" of rain, with more due tomorrow. But we've also had many nice days, as well. No complaints, except when we have the 3 H's. Right, Hondo?

Have a great day.

Jazzbumpa said...

Hi gang -

I see I should have been more specific in indicating that Ontario is a town ca. 40 miles E of L.A.

Yellowrocks - I disagree about "cash money." There are chits, IOU's, credit cards, and all sorts of electronic ticks in data bases that are, in essence, money. So "cash money" is a specific type, not a redundancy.

Can make a big difference when buying property, frex.

Cool regards!

Avg Joe said...

I had a good time with this solve. It filled in pretty methodically, and I had all the theme answers before the reveal and couldn't make any sense of them without it. But a clever theme it was, once made clear.

Alkane was the biggest unknown. And thanks for the expansion on that, JazzB. Had no idea that hexane is a component of gasoline! In my youth, I worked at a soy oil extraction plant for a brief time, and they use pure hexane for that process. It's one of the hottest VOCs around and it has a smell so distinctive I can still remember it vividly. There are numerous legends around about its volatility, none meeting the breakfast test.

Argyle said...

How strong of a cup of tea can you get with one tea leaf?

Anonymous said...

Annnnd there it is. Sorry Tigers fans but that is officially it. Getting a puppy together is all she wrote. It’s sort of like when you’re fishing and you have a huge fish on the line and you fight it for a while then the fish gets tired and gives up and stops pulling against the line. You reel it to the side of the boat and all that is left is to physically get it into the boat. Yeah you’ve heard of stories where the fish has one last kick in it and snaps the line, but those are mostly just myths. Friend of a friend type of things. For the most part once the fish is within arms length it’s curtains. Verlander is a half dead fish swimming along the side of a boat and Kate is the fisherman about to filet him on the deck. Sorry Tigers fans, you had a good run. And hey, at least you still have Scherzer!*

*well, until Theo Epstein drops 140 million in his lap.

Yellowrocks said...

JzzB, loved your expo and your family pics.
I think "money" is the redundancy. Cash, credit card. IOU, etc. are sufficient, without adding the word "money." The examples come from an site about clear writing.

Dudley said...

Hello Puzzlers -

Not a difficult puzzle really, but I led myself astray for a time with Tempest instead of Tea leaf. I see others did too.
Nice to see Gareth back at it.

Morning, JzB, perfect timing to have a chemist on hand the day we have Alkane in the puzz!

Hand up for Tref, a word whose existence I know but can never recall.

HeartRx said...

Argyle @ 10:05, I guess it would depend on the size of the cup...

Qli said...

Hand up for tempest in my my teacup. WBS about POLAR.

The proper names did me in; did not know EULER or MIRO. I misread the capital for capitol of Belgium, and thought another proper name had eluded me. Dang!

Great vacation pics, JzB. and a shout out to GilroyGarlicGal: I picked up a Gilroy Garlic Grater at the street fair in Fargo (made by a potter from California). It works! and is pretty, which is important in my world.

Spitzboov said...

Good morning everyone.

Late in posting; internet issues.

An apt hump day offering by Gareth providing an enjoyable solve. Kind of dribbled down the East coast and WHITE FLAG let me get ……ENOUGH @ 36a. The rest fell in due course. No searches were needed.
ALKANE invited an arcane recollection from my organic chemistry days. JzB explained it well. Always think of the 'ane' ending in the sense of propane, heptane, octane, etc.
JzB, Are the isomers considered alkanes (saturated) too?

Nice pics of JzB's family. Thanks for posting.

Have a great day.

Tinbeni said...

Jazz: Thank you for another OUTSTANDING write-up & links.
(Your time preparing your blogs is greatly appreciated!)

As for the puzzle, a DNF ... I just wasn't ever getting off the fact that I BAKE my sweet potatoes ... though I did wonder who bIRO was. lol
And I wasn't ever going to get TREF even though I am NONKOSHER.

Never caught on to the theme either ... **it happens!

AGED Port is nice, but I prefer AGED Scotch ... Pinch is 15yo.

Anonymous said...

Aaron *Copland; just letting you know.

Husker Chuck (Ergo) said...

Not the worst puzzle ever, but certainly in the top two.

I understand that it's necessary to rely on a little obscurity to fill a grid but this one felt heavy.

Also have to take issue with a few clues/answers. "FRIENDLY ADDRESS" = "KIDDO?" I was admonished once in the workplace for using that title.


Ben Stein said...

I loved the fill for 9d, ROB A BANK. Did anyone else think of our favorite Dillinger? Anyone? EULER? EULER?

Misty said...

Not a Wednesday speed run, for sure, but just the right level of challenge--many thanks, Gareth. My biggest struggle was the South, but in the end I got the whole thing. Great vacation pics, JazzB!

We have sweet potato fries with burgers, so I had the same hesitation about MASH as Barry.

Our friends in Riverside often use ONTARIO airport, so that helped.

Never heard of ALKANE, but luckily encountered TREF in another puzzle recently.

Have a great Wednesday, everybody!

Lucina said...

Greetings, friends! Thanks, Jzb, for an informative and entertaining Blog and for sharing your family pictures. It looks like a good time for all.

WEES. My first artist was DALI but DICE didn't cut it, so starting over gave me MIRO/MASH and I was off to the finish. Some fill seemed obscure, TREF, ALKANE and having flown into ONTARIO, CA many times I'm quite familiar with it. It's easier to navigate than LAX so it's a good choice.

Thank you, Gareth Bain, for today's fun.

Have a wonderful Wednesday, everyone!

Nice Cuppa said...

Thanks JzB

Your FRILLS certainly gave me a thrill…..

But you overlooked 42A (NUDGE, NUDGE, WINK, WINK… ). Classic Monty Python.

I have lived in California for many years, but once I was on a (non-stop) flight from the East Coast and was told we were being rerouted to ONTARIO Airport, which did cause (I confess) more than a moment of consternation.

21A. Even I initially wrote in TEMPEST. As you (should) know well by now, tea LEAVES should be brewed in a TEAPOT, unless you prefer to chew them. But should you find yourself in such dire, uncivilized, straits (or States), then you might add a TAD of milk after a few minutes, which at least stops the brewing process. That way, you will avoid having to chew your way through a slurry of Tannic Acid.

In re P.S. OwenGL, NIce Clue.

I wrote in ALKANE and then thought it might be too specialized for the Chemophobe crowd. Actually, my (late 70s) Chemistry Professor preferred the older term PARAFFIN meaning literally "little affinity" (unless you have a spark or lighter, in which case the affinity for oxygen becomes more obvious). Could have been a "crypto-clecho" for EULER (with the correct pronunciation, as pointed out by JzB), I suppose.

Fermatprime would have told you that Euler was a very versatile mathematician who could morph into a perfectly good adjective; so we have Eulerian angles, coordinates, paths,... inter alia. And they are so much easier to handle if you know how to pronounce the root word…

"AD IN" must be purely YANK-speak; I never heard such rot at Wimbledon; did you, old chap.

Agree with JzB, APPLES and ORANGES. Distinct yes, even orthogonal, but not necessarily opposite……..

POLAR: Agree with Barry G. & OwenGL; disagree with Yellowrocks. POLAR does not mean opposite (unless you happen to be sitting at the OPPOSITE POLE - not a tautology)). "Poles come in pairs like POLAR bears". All magnets (not just the Earth) have a North and South Pole. Actually, poles sometimes come in pairs of pairs. Ask EULER to explain QUADRUPOLES.

Today's cryptoclue

"So, anyone for meadow rackets?", or "Heard the one about metal security briefs?", perhaps (7).


PK said...

Hi Y'all! Great puzzle, Gareth! Great blog, JzB! I'll go back and finish listening to all the music full length after this.

Unknowns: ALKANE & EULER. EURO evaded me for awhile.

I thought the theme was amusing. I laughed seeing the WHITE FLAG over BAZOOKA. No wonder they surrendered with one of those so close.

OLDEN appeared, then OUGH and I parsed it as OLDEN OUcH for a Duh chuckle when I finally got it put together right.

One steak house my daughter takes me to has a yummy side dish of baked sweet potato topped with butter, brown sugar and cinnamon. Don't need any dessert afterward.

CrossEyedDave said...

I got stuck in three areas, but a brief rest helped me figure it out, & finally accept alkane...

Never give up!

A little white flag trivia...

PK said...

I thought the "opposite" term just referred to the familiar saying about comparing APPLES to oranges in reference to dissimilar items. I already had an "A" so tried APPLES.

CandleFlight said...

I thought the crossword was clever, and your family photos showed a certain heartfelt warmth. Thank you.

desper-otto said...


That's what cleaning Hershey's Syrup off the keyboard looks like.

Grateful, I Guess, said...

From Yesterday's blog:

Thanks Argyle for the VERY interesting fact that 4 of the 1.5V AAAA batteries (lie snug -) in the 9V block battery. Never even knew. How cute and useful. That made my day !

Also thanks for the very informative, teaching video on Dados. And I used to think it was a foul four letter word.

Also thanks to CC. EE. DD., for 'fun with batteries', for the 244 numbers of 9V battery for the sparky results. Now, were those batteries connected in series or in parallel ? lol ;-D)

Also thanks to CED for his usual links and the air pilot controller game. Very informative and inspiring though I would never play that computer game. Can't stand heights. ;-0)

Finally, Thanks JazzB for today's very nice blog, and lots of music and videos and pictures. You have a lovely family. That's the greatest blessing of all.

Jazzbumpa said...

Spitz -

Yes, the saturated isomers are also alkanes, either straight chain or branched. The presence of a C=C double bond makes it an alkene, AKA an olefin. Ethylene [2 carbon] is one you've probably heard of. A triple bond makes it an alkyne. Acetylene, again, is a 2 carbon example.

Yellow rocks -

I think "cash money" could be redundant or not, depending on the context.

Anyway, I seldom ever object to a small smidgen of unnecessary redundency.

The most redundant sentence I ever came up with is - He and I, the two of us, shall by working jointly together, tandemly in unison, strive toward the completion of the separate individual goals to which we both aspire.


Ol' Man Keith said...

This was a tough one all the way through. I guessed at DEL and JO'S, but even so had to do some early lookups just to get started.
I learned EULER along the way and also ALKANE, but I'll probably only remember the former, my brain usually favoring people over things.

Anonymous said...

Liked it. 6 down should have been feint. It even stated it in the example YOU pointed out. If you look further down from decoy you will see " feint is the most...." PERIOD!!!! I changed it cause onterio didnt fit.

Grateful, again, said...

Regarding: Cash Money being considered redundant ...

JazzB, IMHO, I think the argument revolves around who's using the terminology. In the parlance of a blue collar worker, cash money appears to be an unnecessary duplication. In common speech, it seems to be used often for unnecessary emphasis.

BTW, not to imply that YellowRocks is, in any way, 'blue collar', by any connotation.

But, JazzB, to an economist, like you, who likes to study about lots and lots of money, (generally other peoples -), cash money is only an M1 - or maybe parts of an M2 or M3. So, the 'cash' part, in this sense, is merely an adjective.

So, to reiterate, cash money may be redundant in bars, garage sales and popular fiction but not so in the boardroom or trading floors of Goldman Sachs.

May I take this opportunity to alert you, if interested, on the Argentinian Bond Crisis . Its more exciting than 'The DaVinci Code', its real, and its happening, right now. An 83 yr old (!!!) NY Federal judge, Thomas P. Griesa, has the countries of Argentina, France, most of Europe and the IMF quaking in their boots !

Jazzbumpa said...

Grateful - I like your clarification of cash money.

Just to be clear, I am not an economist.

I read, think, and occasionally write about economic stuff, but have no credentials.

I TRY to come at all things from a realist perspective. Much of what you see from prominent economists is utter nonsense. They have beautiful and elegant models which coincide with reality only in the rarest of circumstances, or, in some cases, not at all.



Jazzbumpa said...

Anon @ 1:25

You are thinking too hard.

Lighten up a bit.

Make some allowances.

Puzzles are for fun.



Yellowrocks said...

POLAR can mean opposite. See definition 3
From the Free Dictionary:
1. of or pertaining to the North or South Pole.
2. of or pertaining to any pole, as of a sphere, a magnet, or an electric cell.
3. opposite in character or action.

According to some dictionaries, such as, "cash money" is a regionalism.
"noun South Midland and Southern U.S.
cash, as distinguished from a check or money order."

In other places it is listed as slang. My huge unabridged dictionary doesn't even mention it.
To me cash money sounds blue collar.
Grammarians consider it a redundancy.
Link cash money

JD said...

Good morning JzBumpa, C.C., and all,

LOVED your family photos today. I remember the old one with all the grand kids on the couch (not a divan). cute

Funny how one can struggle along, get one or two words, and then speed along. I still needed perp help in lots of places to change bake to mash and Burbank to Ontario. I think they get those Santa Ana winds.

Jayce said...

LW and I have had uninvited guests in addition to invited ones.
CanadianEh, from yesterday, Red Rose tea is my absolute favorite!
Liked this puzzle, as well as yesterday's.
My boss once again proved himself to be an idiot and a blatant liar in a meeting yesterday.
GarlicGal, speaking of bombes, I still smile when I recall a comment you posted quite a while ago in which you shared your laughter about a scene from TBBT where Howard and Amy are belting out Sweet Caroline while on a road trip. Your wrote "BOM BOM BOM!" I could almost see you singing along! I guess you do loves you a good bombe!
Thanks for your writeup, Jazzb. Best wishes to you all.

Bill G. said...

I found this puzzle a bit harder than many of you seemed to. I got stuck on ALKANE, LAZE and TREF. But crossing letters filled 'em in eventually.

A little (3.0) earthquake rattled the windows a little over a half hour ago. It apparently was centered out in the ocean about five miles west of my house. Other than that, it's been peaceful around here.

Jazzbumpa said...

N C -

I've solved your cryptic, but can only partially parse the clues.

Is it too early to ask for an explanation?


Lucina said...

If you haven't been to ONTARIO in 20 years you would be surprised at the development which has occurred. From Palm Springs westward it is all linked like a continuous metropolis.

Unknown said...

I didn't have time to read the comments, but I'll get to them when I get back from a doctor's appointment.

I solved it with only one write-over: LEADING before LEAD INS. ALKANE and EULER were solved with perps.

Chickie said...

Hola Everyone, I had a hard time finishing the NE corner. React was not in my vocabulary for Run Away.
I also had virus instead of EColi and Apex for Acme. Needless to say that really fouled things up. I finally used the eraser and cleared the whole corner and started over.

On first pass I didn't have much to fill in but started to whittle away at small parts until I had most of the puzzle finished. After sending up a white flag, I almost gave up, but worked at this off and on until it all came together.

Have a great day, everyone.

Chickie said...

JzB, Loved the vacation pictures. It looks like it was relaxing and fun family fare. The children are all growing fast.

Thanks for the write up today. I always learn something new. Today it was Alkane.

GarlicGal said...

Lucina,I figured the area around Devore must have developed by now. At the time, and it was probably more like 25 yrs. ago, (YIKES) the amphitheater had been open for a short while. Steve Wozniak invested in it quite heavily and promoted the "U.S. Festival" which was suppose to rival Woodstock.

fermatprime said...


Thanks for chewy puzzle, Gareth, and swell expo, Jazz!

Never heard of an ALKANE.

Some students in my Number Theory classes would still be pronouncing it youLER at the end of the semester!

Thanks for the shout outs!

Great pics, Jazz!

Hotter than blazes here!


Avg Joe said...

I didn't hesitate to fill in Euler with a couple perps, but readily admit to mispronouncing it all along. We've plenty of cunning linguists on board here that could explain the reason it's pronounced as Oiler. I'd be very interested to know.

Spitzboov said...

Avg Joe @ 1813 re: Euler pronunciation . In German eu is usually pronounced like the oi in oil.

Examples: Heute = today
Leute = people
Deutsch = German

Prinz Eugen = Prince Eugene. A cruiser that escorted the Bismarck out to the N. Atlantic.

Hope this helps.

Avg Joe said...

Thank you Spitz. I'm not sure it makes it clear since it's contrary to the standard rule of 2nd vowel is emphasized, but English speakers are in no position to question exceptions.... not ever..Not never. :-)

Bill G. said...

I never think of Euler when I think about the 'inventors' of calculus; rather Newton and Leibniz. But the crossing letters gave it away. Euler had his fingers in so many mathematical pies (or πs). I always enjoy reading histories about the old guys who were REALLY smart and figured out what they did without help from computers, calculators, the Internet, Google, etc.

Avg Joe said...

You bring up numerous interesting points with that comment BillG. Since we migrated to an unobstructed rural sky 7+ years ago, I've been preoccupied taking notes of casual observations of sunset and sunrise times and locations in relation to fixed points as the years transit. It's hardly science on my part, but it evokes a profound appreciation of what those guys figured out centuries ago with no prior proof or study. It's little wonder some were branded as heretics given the beliefs (superstitions?) of their age.

Anonymous said...

Ave Joe. Your rule that the second vowel in German is emphasized applies only to ie or ei. EU is not an exception. It is close to oy.


Anonymous T said...

Hi all!

I had to wave the WHITE FLAG and Gareth's (after-the-write-up-read) fine puzzle. Nothing in the NW would click, Louisiana* was empty, and, after writing-and-re-writing over ENOUGH (to get Egypt to fit) I SAid "NO MORE!"

Thanks JzB for the great write-up and everyone for their input today KIDDOs (yeah- sounds pejorative in my book too - so I'm not SOLD on the c/a).

Fav was BAZOOKA. Brought back memories of reading the comic in the bubble gum wrapper.

Have a great eve all!

Cheers, -T
*I'll be in NOLA tomorrow w/ fam. Big Easy, I'm sure you'll spot us at Cafe du Monde (there's the E I needed in BOMBE) - the kids will be covered in powdered sugar and I'll be sipping Chicory-laced coffee.

Bill G. said...

Avg Joe, I know what you mean. Years ago when we added onto out house, our bedroom window on the second floor faces east. It's still amazing to me how much the location of the sun's rising migrates over a year.

If you have a fixed pole and mark the location of the shadow of the top of the pole at noon (or any fixed time) day after day for a year, the point's movement will describe an unusual shape called an analemma, sort of a figure eight.


Have you checked out the night sky with a good pair of binoculars? With your interest, have you considered buying a telescope? There are lots of good choices that won't break the bank.

Avg Joe said...

Bill, I have a fair to middling telescope as well as two pairs of binoculars. The odd part is that I go to bed early enough in my "advanced" years that I rarely take advantage of either. The greatest use I've had for the latter is in my accidental bird watching. They get a workout, just not the one I'd intended

Husker Gary said...

Greetings from the home of the Redwoods, Eureka, CA. I got to do GB’s puzzle here at the Red Lion and really enjoyed it, although it seemed to be a Wednesday plus!

Blue Iris said...

PK, this might be like the casserole you had while eating out. I serve it at Easter with ham.

Southern Sweet Potato Casserole

3 cups cooked, MASHed sweet potatoes
1/2 cup sugar
1/2 c butter
2 eggs, beaten
1 tsp vanilla
13 cup milk

Combine and place in 9 x 13 pan.


1/3 cup butter, melted
1 cup brown sugar
1/2 cup flour
1 cup pecans, chopped

Combine topping ingredients and sprinkle on top. Bake at 350 degrees for 30 minutes.

Years ago, I made a Spumoni BOMBE. I don't know if I even have that recipe anymore.

Jzb, where is Black Lake?

Blue Iris said...

HG, I think I missed something. How did you get CA from MN ?? Is this a long travel the USA trip?

Anonymous said...


Boiler Guys


Lucina said...

For the casserole, do you mean 1/3 cup milk or 13 cups? I hope the former.

This sounds good!

Anonymous said...

Tomayto tomato...

Anonymous T said...

Recipe time?

BOMBE DW used to make:

Line bowl w/ plastic-wrap
Line plastic-wrap with lady fingers
Insert softened ice-cream (fav was coffee)
Turn upside-down onto platter; remove plastic
Drizzle liqueur (fav. Sambuca) over lady-fingers
Cover in melted chocolate
Eat with more coffee

Cheers, -T

Blue Iris said...

Lucinda, Thank you. 1/3 cup- I even proofread the recipe before sending it...oh, well

Anonymous said...

Manhattan Beach quake

Bill G. said...

Gary, are you enjoying redwood country? What is the rest of your itinerary?

Q: What happened when the two antennas got married?

A: The wedding wasn't much but... the reception was great!