Jul 1, 2014

Tuesday, July 1, 2014 Gareth Bain

Theme: Brought to you by the letters O and G - Two across, two down and one in the center.

17A. *"We're All Family Here!" Italian restaurant : OLIVE GARDEN

56A. *Goal for many an elite athlete : OLYMPIC GOLD

38A. "Gosh" ... and a hint to the answers to starred clues : "OH GEE"

3D. *Barbecuing option : OPEN GRILL

34D. *Kitchen safety item : OVEN GLOVE

Rabbit, rabbit! Argyle here. A straight two letter theme seems a bit retro but it may have been in the system for sometime. All the G's are hard G's.


1. Guy sib : BRO

4. "__ Smile": Hall & Oates hit : SARA

8. Dancer de Mille : AGNES. She had an interesting life. Bio (Also, a CSO to Irish Miss)

13. Mender's target : RIP

14. Hale-Bopp, e.g. : COMET. The Great Comet of 1997. Next return? Around the year 4385.

15. Go : LEAVE

16. Grow old : AGE

19. Hairbrush target : TANGLE

21. Submission encl. : SAE. (self-addressed envelope)

22. After-dinner candy : MINT

23. Grabs, in slang : GLOMS

25. "The Magic Flute" composer : MOZART

27. Yearly : PER ANNUM

30. Actor Silver : RON. (1946-2009) Number of Roles: 84. Best Known for Playing: Sleazy politicians and doctors.

31. Speakeasy owners' concerns : RAIDS

32. NCO nickname : SARGE

34. Have debts : OWE

37. Capri, e.g. : ISLE

39. Physiologist Pavlov : IVAN

40. Gibson of "Lethal Weapon" : MEL

41. Museum employee : GUIDE

42. Graph revelation : TREND

43. __ tai: cocktail : MAI

44. Insults : AFFRONTS

46. Individual : PERSON

49. Acting litigiously toward : SUING

50. Old horses : NAGS

51. Federation in OPEC : UAE. (United Arab Emirates)

53. Hid from the police : LAY LOW

59. Eggs, to a biologist : OVA

60. Home on the range : TEPEE

61. Jockey rival : HANES

62. Kilmer of "Willow" : VAL

63. Lauder of cosmetics : ESTÉE

64. Sign of stagnation : ODOR

65. Caribou kin : ELK


1. Naughty kid : BRAT

2. Capital of Latvia : RIGA

4. Like a moment of silence : SOLEMN

5. "__ imagining things?" : AM I

6. Guns, as a motor : REVS

7. Mr. T's group : A TEAM

8. Styled after : À LA

9. Austria's official language : GERMAN

10. Bottommost point : NADIR

11. Milestone, e.g. : EVENT

12. Text message status : SENT

14. Eyes, in many emoticons : COLONS

18. First name of three presidents : GEORGE

20. Clearing in the woods : GLADE

24. Bite-sized Japanese fare : SUSHI

26. "Avatar" actress Saldana : ZOE

27. Strait-laced : PRIM

28. Relaxation : EASE

29. Sister of Eva and Zsa Zsa : MAGDA

                  Zsa Zsa, Magda & Eva

33. Coral phenomena : REEFS

35. Have a yen for : WANT

36. Wraps up : ENDS

38. "Certainly, monsieur!" : "OUI, OUI!"

39. Literary technique involving incongruity : IRONY

41. Freeway sign word : GAS

42. Three-toned chords : TRIADS

43. Capt. Hook's henchman : MR. SMEE

45. __ Brush Company : FULLER

46. Looks inferior, comparatively : PALES

47. Luxor's country : EGYPT. The ruins of ancient Thebes.

48. Salsa holder : NACHO

50. Musical symbol : NOTE

52. "My goodness!" : "EGAD!"

54. Basic track shape : OVAL

55. Base on balls : WALK

57. Capital of Portugal? : PEE. The letter P.

58. Musician Yoko : ONO. Hello, old friend.



Lemonade714 said...

White rabbit white rabbit. I really liked this Gareth offering to begin the new month.

As with all of GB' s puzzles the fill is eclectic AGNES DEMILLE ZOE SALDANA

Enjoy the new month

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

The top half of this one went very smoothly, once I corrected my initial mistake of putting in SIS instead of BRO (for some reason, I read the clue as the sibling of a guy instead of a sibling who is a guy...)

I hit a wall as soon as I got to the bottom half of the puzzle, however. Nothing horribly difficult, but just a lot crunchier than the top half. Couldn't remember MAGDA, didn't know IVAN, etc. Again, nothing major, but just enough to halt me in my tracks and make me rely on the perps to get the job done.

PK said...

Hi Y'all! No comments as I write? OH, GEE! How'd that happen? This was easy enough but kept me guessing until the end. MR. SMEE, indeed. I couldn't find a word that began with "M" until SMEE showed up below. DUH! I seemed to need a lot of perps for a Tuesday. But a fun challenge, Gareth, thanks!

Thanks, Argyle, for another great expo. I didn't know SARA and after enjoying the song, I couldn't hear the name in it at all. Didn't know AGNES or the "Avatar" girl, but MAGDA was home in my brain.

I also had pause with OPEN what? and OVEN what? but they perped in okay. IRONY is a technique? Hmmm! Technique? Guess so.

Insults? AFFRONTS! Of course. Not a word I hear in conversation.

UAE was a gimmee since my AF son was there recently.

Well, think I'm hungry for breakfast after I've REVd my brain with this.

Who do you suppose went out and took pictures of all those house numbers for Captcha. Now that was a fun assignment, I betcha!

OwenKL said...

Oh gosh, OH GEE, oh mercy me!
My Auntie AGNES is coming for tea!
She's proper and PRIM;
I've no cream, only skim,
And she always says that makes her PEE!

My sister SARA was first in her class,
While SARGE my BRO could barely pass.
(He was named by his posse
'Cause his ODOR was bossy --
Like when Bossy, our cow, would pass GAS!)

My nephew GEORGE joined us for tea,
Just back from a trip to Paree.
When asked did he think
Of what he'd WANT to drink?
His answer in French was OUI, OUI!

And your Cryptic clue for today. I've been omitting the customary letter counts since you only have a range of seventy-some words.
Sounds like perennial presidential candidate's low point (5)

Hahtoolah said...

Good morning, Argyle and friends. Oh, Gee! I had fun with this puzzle. The theme came easily even before I got the unifier.

The Fuller Brush Company began the year my grandmother was born. The company is still in business. Years ago, the Fuller Brush man sold the products door-to-door.

MAGDA Gabor (1915 ~ 1997) was the oldest of the three sisters. Zsa Zsa (b. 1917), the middle sister, is still alive. Eva Gabor (1919 ~ 1995) is best known for her role as Lisa Douglas on Green Acres.

Temps are to reach 98F today, but according to the weather report, it will feel like 100F.

I hope all of you in the mid-west are safe from the storms and flooding.

QOD: They say it is better to be poor and happy than rich and miserable, but how about a compromise like moderately rich and just moody? ~ Diana, Princess of Wales (July 1, 1961 ~ Aug. 31, 1997)

HeartRx said...

Rabbit, rabbit!

OH, GEE, what a cute little puzzle. I struggled a bit with a couple of the theme entries, so needed some perp help on those. I use an OVEN mitt, not a GLOVE.

OPEN GRILL is definitely not a barbecuing option. As any red-blooded Southern barbecue chef will tell you, they are two entirely different animals. You can grill a steak, but if you want barbecue, you need to cook slow and low with the cover on!

I also wondered about "Hid from the police" for LAY LOW, because it seemed like it wanted a past tense in the answer. But then I realized that LAY is the past tense of "lie." Phew!

But otherwise it was a perfectly fine Tuesday offering for this first day of July.

HeartRx said...

OwenKL, I think I finally guessed one of your cryptic clues...I'll wait and see if I am right later today.

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Snappy little puzzle for a Tuesday. So Silver's name wasn't HYO? I didn't really care for Avatar. I remember Zoe best as Lt. Uhura in the latest round of Star Trek prequels.

Time to turn into the walkin' dude....

desper-otto said...

PS -- I'm sure I got Owen's cryptic clue. It's his cryptic answer that's puzzling. No, just kidding, I got that too.

HeartRx said...

d-otto, you're too funny!

Mari said...

Good morning everybody.

I don't always do well with Gareth's puzzles, but today was a breeze.

I had SOMBER for SOLEMN at 4D.
I didn't know there was a third Gabor sister.
I liked the clue at 44D: Base on balls: WALK

Have a great day!

thehondohurricane said...

Good day,

Nice puzzle Gareth, not a speed run, but a fun challenge. There were a couple of few fills where I wasn't sure if they were correct, but I couldn't see alternatives either. Such as:

SARA to me
COLONS...eyes in many... Everyday word for me!

A couple of mis steps too

50A Vets/NAGS
27A Annually/PER ANNUM

I had the same thoughts about the cluing for 53A as Marti and a different opinion. I think the clue should have been Hide, not Hid. Then lay or lie would work for me.

Hale-Boop a total unknown. COMET was all perps.

Eventually, it all came together w/o any errors. so I begin July on an upscale.

New arrival today in our family, a kitten. Wife's very happy. Can't wait to see how she'll be greeted by present cat and Riley.

Spitzboov said...

Good morning everyone.

Agree with Lemon about eclectic. Enjoyable puzzle this am. Was getting the theme when the unifier confirmed what was wanted. No issues and no searches or strikethroughs were needed.

Wigwag said...

I first had "Igor" for physiologist Pavlov - because I presumed he worked in a lab ....

Cute to see Zsa Zsa giving the finger .... ( to her numerous husbands ?),

38 Across ('Oui Oui') could also have been clued - ' - thats kinda small'.

The capital in Portugal seems to be universally used.

PK said...

Owen, I think I got one... Nader's NADIR? And if I am a spoiler, I don't care, since I never ever get these things.

Hale-Boop: My first thought was a dent in the car after the storm passes.

Husker Gary said...

-Sheldon’s quirky distaste for the OLIVE GARDEN (:10)
-In urban America brother became BRO and now it’s BRA(h), tomorrow… Research shows “brah” for brother originated in Hawaii as in “Aloha, Bra”. Chefwen?
-Have you ever been to a gathering where someone GLOMS onto you?
-Any speakeasy worth its salt, paid plenty to avoid RAIDS (unless it was an election year)
-Whether you say Cuh pree’ or Cap’ ree, it’s a beautiful place with a ski lift I rode that would give OSHA nightmares
-Find your favorite Pavlov cartoon
-Don’t tell me numbers, show me a graph
-Do you see a TREND in this graph?
-SOLEMN – and the reason for the N is…
-A fun twist on the irony of The Gift of the Magi
-NACHO typical Omaha restaurant (:14)
-Farmers who have avoided the wind, hale and flooding (99%) have a corn crop that looks fabulous!!
-What 60’s comedy had a character named MEL who was a BIL lackey for a big TV star?

Montana said...

Good morning, everybody.

No problems with this puzzle but I seemed to use more perp help than usual for Tuesday. (not finding Cruciverb working is always a let-down, though.)

My AF son also had several deployments in UAE and middle son proposed to his girlfriend (now wife) there.

Have a good day,


Guess I didn't solve all my computer problems. I'm having trouble posting again. I used to be able to click on 'Publish Your Comment' and it did. Now, there is always some problem.

Spitzboov said...

Re: SOLEMN – and the reason for the N is

To be pronounced. It does slow you down, but then again, it is a solemn word and should be pronounced slowly.

Wigwam said...

Because of my misspelled name earlier, this still counts as my first post .... "O-O". Whatevah.

Since we are all pretty-much, pussy footing around Owenkl's cryptic, I first thought it was 'Oh Gee' for the 3 Georges,

but I think its the name of a particular odious king ----- Shah of Persia, who is also called the Napoleon of Persia and the Second Alexander. A very cruel, paranoid and despotic Shah, he also made mega-gigantic, spectacular loots, including the Peacock throne, which resides in Tehran to this very day. Also very effective at controlling the world population.

Yellowrocks said...

This was even faster than Monday's puzzle. 17A and 3D indicated a possible OG theme, confirmed by 38A.
SARA was the only unknown. Agnes de Mille is quite famous here. I remembered MAGDA after 2 perps.
Barbeque purists aside, barbeque has developed an alternate meaning, cooked on an open grill like hamburgers, or an outdoor meal featuring grilled food.Time (or the English language) marches on. We are frequently invited to barbeques where grilled food is featured.
I can find no dictionary that pronounces the N in SOLEMN or SOLEMNLY. However, it is pronounced in SOLEMNITY.
Today's cryptic puzzle was easier than the previous ones. I got it, along with many of you.

CanadianEh! said...

Somewhat crunchier than usual for a Tuesday but I got the theme in the end.

Wanted GROVE before GLADE, RANCH before TEPEE, ALGA before ODOR. I knew SMEE but didn't enter until perps gave the MR. Hand up for ANNUALLY before PER ANNUM.

MAGNA must have been the least famour of the Gabor sisters. I didn't know her name. Perps to the rescue.

I haven't seen any FULLER Brush products for years. They were really well-made.

GLOMS is not used in this area.

Thunder storms are predicted here so it may rain on our Canada Day parade!

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

I always enjoy Gareth's puzzles and this was spot on. Cute theme and some interesting fill: per annum, triads, affronts, etc. Tin gets half of a libation with Mai (Tai)! I had a neighbor who had two Shih Tzus named Mai Tai and Ling Ling.

Thanks, Gareth, for a nice start to a new month (It seems like I just turned the calendar over to June!) and thanks, Argyle, for your expo and nice shout-out. Believe it or not, I could not come up with Ms. De Mille's name, at first.

I watched a movie the other night called Enough Said with Julia Louis Dreyfus and James Gandolfini which I really enjoyed. It is a light rom-com with some serious moments and lots of life lessons. I believe it is one of JG's last performances.

Hondo, what is the new kitty's name? I saw a new neighbor's cat the other day and had to look twice to decide if it was a small dog or a really large cat. It is a really, really large cat; I can't imagine how much it weighs but it gives new meaning to the term Fat Cat!

Have a terrific Tuesday. BTW, Owen, I did get your Cryptic clue today, as it was pretty easy.

Lucina said...

Good day to all!

I GlOMmed onto Gareth's puzzle quickly and sashayed right through it like a COMET in flight. I even got Owen's cryptic clue! Nader's NADIR.

In my youth (read 13-14 yrs. old)I was an avid reader of celebrity magazines so it made me aware of the three Gabor sisters.

Thanks Gareth and Argyle for today's fun. I have to take a friend to the airport so I'm off.


Have a terrific Tuesday, everyone!

Tracy said...

I wonder if the Original Gist of Gareth's theme had something to do with Ice T but Rich found it too eclectic for the normal LAT crowd. Wouldn't want to stump the older demographic so early in the week.

Misty said...

I like Gareth Bain puzzles and this one was a lot of fun, as usual. Not a total speed run, and I did have to think a bit in a few places, but a puzzle with MOZART in it is always a treat. Argyle, beautiful photo of RIGA. If I could still travel, I'd put that city on my bucket list.

Marti, I had the same question about LAY LOW.

Irish Miss, we were surprised by how subtle and complex the movie "Enough Said" was. And the performances were wonderful.

Have a safe and good trip, Lucina.

And have a great day, everybody!

Lucina said...

Since Ice T has been on Law and Order for many years I doubt it would stump anyone.

Thank you but it was a friend whom I dropped off and she is going to cooler places.

Tinbeni said...

Pinch, Pinch ...

Gareth: Thank you for a FUN ... OH,GEE this was FUN ... Tuesday puzzle.

Learning moment; there was a third Gabor sister. Only needed 5 perps to get MAGDA.

Also liked the AGNES "Shout-Out" to Irish Miss.

Fave today, of course, was RAIDS, Speakeasy owners' concern.
Had I "been around, back in-the-day" I would have loved hangin' at the "Speakeasy" ...

kazie said...

Good and easy today.

I agree with Marti about hid and LAY. I always remember the LIE/LAY thing this way: LAY is transitive--hence a "good lay" is referring to someone else you would lay down to make love to (assuming a man is talking).

The other fact is that both LIE and LAY have German roots, and the strong (irregular) verb in both languages is LIE (intransitive):
liegen, lag, gelegen = lie, lay lain. You can spot strong/irregular verbs because they usually have past participles ending in "n".

legen, legte gelegt = lay, laid, laid is weak (regular) in both languages, although the normal English "-ed" is shortened to just "d".

a man is talking said...

When "referring to someone else you would lay down to make love to" a man would probably say "good f***"

C6D6 Peg said...

Nice, smooth run today, with a fun theme. Thank you Gareth!

Argyle, I agree with Misty on RIGA. Always love those travel shots!

Tinbeni said...

Husker @8:09
oops! Forgot to answer your question.
The Dick Van Dyke Show.
Mel Cooley was the BIL to Alan Brady.

TTP said...

Hi all !

Thank you Gareth and thank you Argyle.

I entered "pasta GARDEN" instead of OLIVE. My excuse ? We had storms last night, and I didn't get much sleep. Plus, I don't think I've ever been to an Olive Garden.

Lacking mental prowess, I also had a hard time parsing PER ANNUM as I kept looking at it as a single word, and it took a couple of minutes to rectify MRS MEE into MR SMEE.

Other than those slowdowns, it was all relatively easy fill, and a good Tuesday level puzzle.

Barry G, a belated Happy Birthday !

Bill G. said...

Hi everybody. That was a perfectly pleasant Tuesday puzzle with a theme that could have come from a Universal crossword. The reveal was more interesting and fun than the theme answers. OK Thumper, I'll be quiet now.

I think it was comet Hale-Bopp that Barbara and I saw on a camping trip. We had traveled a couple of hours north of Los Angeles where the night sky was much darker. The comet was BEAUTIFUL against the black background!

I was looking for a high-quality book to download and read to 10-year-old Jordan. I finally settled on "Flowers for Algenon," a book that I enjoyed years ago and a good movie too ("Charlie"). So far, Jordan and I are both enjoying it. (We are both hoping that the operation works; that Charlie gets smarter and happier and can finally beat that smarty-pants mouse in the maze.) Any other suggestions for bedtime reading?

Lemonade714 said...

D-O did you see Avatar? in 3-D? On a large screen like IMAX?

HG, and Bill Cooley was played by Richard Deacon (Phil Silvers' brother) who I mentioned Friday.

What in the world does OG have to do with Ice T?

Unknown said...

A good easy puzzle. SARA was a gimme because "Sara Smile" is one of my all-time favorite songs, although I prefer the original version that's on Hall & Oates' album. It was still nice to listen to this live version while I read the blog.

We also watched "Enough Said" the other night and really enjoyed it.

SwampCat said...

Ok, dear Owen. Put us out of our is Nader's Nadir or have we all missed the point completely?!! LOL

Great rhymes today, as usual.

And I enjoyed the puzzle very much, even though I found it a bit crunchy in spots. Some new words and fun clues.

Lucina said...

I'm not sure about bedtime reading and you are the better judge, but you might try Stephen Hawking's children's series. It starts with Secrets of the Universe and was co-written with his daughter, Lucy.

desper-otto said...

Lemon, I saw Avatar in 3D, but not in an I-Max. The visual effects were excellent, but I thought the plot was thin and a little preachy.

Spitzboov said...

Some of you might like this explanation of why men's and women's brains are different.
For those of you who are not gladdened by seeing the beautiful and cadenced German language written in the form of subtitles, just listen to the original spoken English of the describer of this anomaly.

HeartRx said...

Spitz, wonderful, funny lecture by Mark Gugor. (BTW, I really did enjoy reading the German and seeing how the nuances of the English language were translated.)

OK Owen, since other people have spoken up, I'll toss in my two bits and say that I thought it was Nader's NADIR as well.

Yellowrocks said...

Spitz, I loved the funny Nothing Box speech, fantastic and so true. Thanks.I love the beautiful German language. Seeing it written and hearing the simultaneous translation brought much of it back. I had a German minor in college and a father who could speak "high" German and both parents who could speak PA Dutch, a type of low German.
We used to get Japanese language shows on TV with English subtitles. The law has done away with the subtitles. I was told that the foreign language shows are for people who know that language and to give English subtitles would compete with English language shows. No wonder most Americans are monolingual!

PS I suspect the house numbers are from an Internet or Smart App that can zero in on a specific house in a specific area.

Lucina said...


That video is hilarious! Thank you for posting it.

Tracy said...

Lemonade714 said:

"What in the world does OG have to do with Ice T?"

Well, go to Google, type OG, then push enter. Everyone under a certain age knows Ice is the OG!

Thanks for making my earlier point.

Anonymous said...

Nader('s) nadir

Husker Gary said...

Musings 2
-Spitz, your brain lecture was fabulous. That research could be done here most any day. Joann seems to get on a crusade when I am doing nothing!
-Yesterday, I was doing “nothing” and she sent me to the store to get her Tide laundry detergent. Do you know how many types of Tide there are?. I counted 12 and had to call her on Face Time to get the right version.
-Anon, the flight radar site you posted yesterday was also amazing
-Yeah, Here’s Carl Reiner (Alan Brady) abusing Richard Deacon (Mel Cooley) past and “present” (:31) while promoting the METV re-airing of that great sitcom comedy.

Manac said...

So this is what came up when I
googled OG

(Old Geezer)..... Tracy was right!

OwenKL said...

Ah, so many sort-of right answers! But no one mentioned an essential part of the solution.

Sounds like | perennial presidential candidate | 's | low point (5)
[Homophone of] [Nader] is [NADIR]

Generally speaking, Cryptic clues should always include some indicator of how the cryptic part leads to the straight part, and what that indicator means is part of the complete solution.
Also that while in the surface sentence, [candidate's] uses the ['s] as possessive, in the parsed solution it's [candidate] [is]. Punctuation, including apostrophes, goes out the window in Cryptics.

OwenKL said...

* Also note that while...

I'm disappointed no one seems to have noted my using OUI OUI as a homophone in my limerick. :-(

Anonymous said...


You can retire to Phoenix, Arizona where…
1. You are willing to park 3 blocks away from your house because you found shade.
2. You've experienced condensation on your hiney from the hot water in the toilet bowl.
3. You can drive for 4 hours in one direction and never leave town.
4. You have over 100 recipes for Mexican food.
5. You know that "dry heat" is comparable to what hits you in the face when you open your oven door.
6. The 4 seasons are: tolerable, hot, really hot, and ARE YOU KIDDING ME??

OR You can retire to California where…
1. You make over $450,000 and you still can't afford to buy a house.
2. The fastest part of your commute is going down your driveway.
3. You know how to eat an artichoke.
4. You drive your rented Mercedes to your neighborhood block party.
5. When someone asks you how far something is, you tell them how long it will take to get there rather than how many miles away it is.
6. The 4 seasons are: Fire, Flood, Mud, and Drought.

OR You can retire to New York City where…
1. You say "the city" and expect everyone to know you mean Manhattan ...
2. You can get into a four-hour argument about how to get
from Columbus Circle to Battery Park, but can't find Wisconsin on a map.
3. You think Central Park is "nature."
4. You believe that being able to swear at people in their own language makes you multi-lingual.
5. You've worn out a car horn. (IF you have a car).
6. You think eye contact is an act of aggression.

OR You can retire to Minnesota where…
1. You only have three spices: salt, pepper, and ketchup ..
2. Halloween costumes have to fit over parkas.
3. You have seventeen recipes for casserole.
4. Sexy lingerie is anything flannel with less than eight buttons.
5. The four seasons are: almost winter, winter, still winter, and road repair.
6. The highest level of criticism is "He is different, she is different or It was different!

OR You can retire to The Deep South where…
1. You can rent a movie and buy bait in the same store.
2. "Y'all" is singular and "all y'all" is plural.
3. "He needed killin" is a valid defense.
4. Everyone has 2 first names: Billy Bob, Jimmy Bob, Joe Bob, Betty Jean, Mary Beth, etc.
5. Everywhere is either: "in yonder," "over yonder" or "out yonder".

OR You can retire to Colorado where…

1. You carry your $3,000 mountain bike atop your $500 car.
2. You tell your husband to pick up Granola on his way home, so he stops at the day care center.
3. A pass does not involve a football or dating.
4. The top of your head is bald, but you still have a pony tail.

OR You can retire to the Nebraska where…
1. You've never met any celebrities, but the mayor knows your name.
2. Your idea of a traffic jam is three cars waiting to pass a tractor.
3. You have had to switch from "heat" to "A/C" on the same day.
4. You end sentences with a preposition: "Where's my coat at.

OR FINALLY You can retire to Florida where…
1. You eat dinner at 3:15 in the afternoon.
2. All purchases include a coupon of some kind -- even houses and cars.
3. Everyone can recommend an excellent cardiologist, dermatologist,
proctologist, podiatrist, or orthopedist.
4. Road construction never ends anywhere in the state.
5. Cars in front of you often appear to be driven by headless people.

Point of order said...

Are you fishing for compliments with your limericks and Cryptic clues?

Laugh laugh, I thought I'd die said...

Fishing? This is a quest for world dominance, Bucko.

OwenKL said...

Point of Order and Last Laugh: At last! Someone who understands me!

fermatprime said...


An enjoyable puzzle, as usual, Gareth! Thanks also to Santa!

No problems.

Loved the retirement blog above, Anon!

What did you think of Under the Dome?


Ol' Man Keith said...

Didn't even notice the theme.
Nice to remember MAGDA. Nice name, very Hungarian

Anonymous T said...

Good eve all!

I don't know if it Gareth's byline or forgetting my brain at home this morning, but I found today a struggle. Names I don't know (AGNES, ZOE, SARA, MADGE), sparkle that's not a daily part of my vocab, and I can never get LAY, lain, lie, mistruth right.

Funny though, after it was done and I read Argyle's fine writeup, it was all so simple.

Fav - getting a WALK and COMET - I remember seeing Hale-Bopp back then. Owens #1 is another fav.

OG - Original Gansta.

HG - Sheldon clip great. Thanks.

I like Tin's take on rabbit rabbit. Hear hear for beer beer!

I'm going to my nothing box now.*

Cheers, -T
*thanks Spitz!

Captain Obvious said...

Owen has hijacked the blog. He has chased away many of the former regulars. He likes to be first and because he was not first today, he is especially pouty.

aka thelma said...

Anon T.. I thought it was Old Gansta.... ?? tho have no idea if I Tea (sp) was one.. :)


aka thelma said...

Of course Ice T would have been better ... :) fingers are working like my eyes...


chefwen said...

Captain Obvious - Envy is an ugly thing.

Husker Gary - Aloha Bra is just fine, if you want to be formal you would say "Aloha Bruddah"!

Anonymous T said...

At the risk of chasing away former regulars...

Ice T Original Gangsta.

Unless you like rap, don't try to sit thorough it. I didn't - it's an AFFRONT to a PERSONs intelligence that millionaire rappers are hangin on the street.

HG - you NACHO regular restaurant reminds me of the old joke.

Guy standing on the cheese line.
Guy comes up and asks what type of government cheese they get today.
1st Guy says "NACHO I think. I just saw one guy running after the other saying 'NACHO Cheese! Hey, that's NACHO Cheese'."

Cheers, -T

Tracy said...

FYI: Ice T is the O.G.. Original Gangster.

Original Gangsta is different. Look it up, if you care. (which you prolly don't, which is why I didn't try to explain it or provide links.) NBD

I had never heard of that old Hungarian chick, the older sistah. I read that she and her younger sis married the same man(at different times). But that is what we love about crosswords, expanding our horizons.

PK said...

And no one mentioned the Gabor sisters mother, an audacious celebrity in her own right: Jolie Gabor.

YR: Somebody also makes those pictures of zoom-ins don't they or are they drones and satellite shots? A person is involved somehow, somewhere manning the equipment.

Anonymous T said...

The more anonymous T (Tracy) - yeah, I noticed the Gangsta/Gangster difference after I posted. I OWE you one for correcting it.

Chefwan - When my half-sibs greet me: "Sup, Bruddah from another moddah?"

Cheers, -T

Tracy said...

Stream of consciousness:

So i was thinking about how HG has mentioned the Gabor's were the Kardashian's of their time. Boy, and how! Can you imagine the uproar when Khloe marries Kim's ex? But anyway the name Kardashian really hits home considering today's theme. How? Well, the whole OG thang, as I know it, has to do with the civil unrest of the time. Huh? Much like the music of the late sixties echoed a unrest, so did gangsta rap. Do you remember that lawyer Kardashian and his cohorts Cochran and Bailey making a mockery of our legal system? How about that white Bronco in the slow speed chase? Rodney King? Reginald Denny? Cops hitting perps. Perps writing music. Hating on the cops. Hence, Ice t, OG. might not be what floats ones boat, but definitely is relevant.

Anonymous T said...

Gangster v. Gansta. WARNING bad production and violent. RIP.

See we learned something today :-) Cheers, -T
(quarterly - not PER ANNUM in CAPTCHA)

CrossEyedDave said...

Found a paper, did the puzzle on the beach.
Now if only I had a hammock and two trees...
( I guess I will have to lay low...)

Hey, wait a sec... Isn't that lay low in the present tense?


( sun burnt Dave...)

aka thelma said...

Yep, Anon T....... we did learn something today.... :) :) and all these years I thought it was Old Gangsta... :) :) have no idea where that came from or why I thought it.... but it shows ya what I know... :)

Happy Belated Birthdays to C.C. and Barry G.... hope your days were grand...

Always enjoy the puzzles and thank you all for everything it takes to keep the corner the place that it is .......


Argyle said...

What is OG kush then.

Anonymous T said...

Argyle: Whoa BRO you're from NY, you're not supposed to know of OG kush (cultivated originally in N. California)* or do you get it SENT cross country?

aka thelma - I too appreciate everyone's contributions on the corner as well. You folks here have a wide range of interests but are always curious. I learn what all y'all add daily.

That's 5 homie. -T OUT. Peace.

*yeah, I looked it up SUE me :-)

Argyle said...

FRR* OG Kush
"Someone said “This kush must be so good because it's grown in the mountains”. And the reply was, “This kush is Ocean Grown Kush, bro”. Hence the term, O.G. kush."

*Further Research Reveals

Spitzboov said...

OG is Danish for "and"

Anonymous said...

I know I'm late with this, but I have two culinary comments for you New Yorkers:

1.) "OPENGRILL" is not a "Barbecuing option." It is a "grilling option." Barbecue is smoked in a closed pit. Barbecuing is not the same as grilling on charcoal.

2.) A "NACHO" is not a "Salsa holder." You do not put salsa on a nacho, although I guess you could if you didn't know what you were doing. A nacho is a tostada with cheese and a jalapeño slice. Some may add refried beans and even guacamole and call it a "pancho." That is a nacho. Notice that there is no salsa on it. You can also dip a tostada in salsa, but that does not a nacho make.

Pete in Texas