Feb 11, 2016

Thursday, February 11, 2016, Steve Marron and C.C. Burnikel

Theme: Where did he hide that jumble?

Well I am back on Thursday to blog the 5th published LAT by our own Thursday Steve (3 collaborations with C.C.) Today we have the wonderful reveal of PLOT TWIST which tells us the letters in PLOT are rearranged. It did not tell us how they are hidden in the theme fill, but that came out early, even before the reveal. They use lots of 2 and 3 word fill and include RAT TRAPS,  SILK TIES and ADIOS AMIGOS as long sparkly ones. Adios amigos is ten letters which is longer than two of the theme answers which some solvers do not like, but to me that is just a 1A. It is always extra fun to blog one of our own. I will stop talking and go to solving.

17A. Drop the original strategy : GO TO PLAN-B (9). Not Plan 9.

21A. Nickname for Basketball Hall of Famer Maravich : PISTOL PETE (10). An LSU star who averaged 44 point per game!!!!!

36A. One always looking up : ETERNAL OPTIMIST (15). Watch out for birds and keep your mouth closed.

49A. Shield bearers : RIOT POLICE (10). Very common in the late 60s on college campuses.
59A. Novel surprise ... and a hint to what's hidden in 17-, 21-, 36- and 49-Across : PLOT TWIST (9).


1. Quibble : NIT. A bit of an inside joke to begin.

4. Like the NCAA basketball three-point line : ARCED. The NBA uses a more complicated grid.

9. Phantom's place? : OPERA. Well for me, it was the comics page for many years.  But I am familiar with the MUSICAL. Is that the delightful Emmy Rossum now on SHAMELESS?

14. Toothpaste tube letters : ADAAmerican Dental Association.

15. Chevy SUV : TAHOE. They have others but this is the only one with 5 letters.

16. Honeydew, for one : MELON. Food.

19. Printing heavyweight : EPSON.

20. Aspersion : SLUR.

23. Euler's forte : MATH.

25. Commencement opening? : CEE. Not the speech or the event, just the word.

26. Online reminders : E-NOTES. I do not like the E words.

28. Dilapidated digs : RAT TRAPS. Where even the rodents want out.

33. Attribute to, as blame : PIN ON. One of many two word fills that require skill.

34. Fish order : SOLE. Do you like this RECIPE? Food.

35. "What __ care?" : DO I. DK DC.

40. Zeta follower : ETA. In the Greek Alphabet.

41. Soccer followers? : MOMS.

42. Causes of many Alaskan road accidents : MOOSE. More new INFO. They always looked so cute here.

43. High-end neckwear : SILK TIES.

46. Declines to raise : PASSES. The term for me is 'checks'.

47. Bard's bedtime : EEN. I get a teeny drop of Shakespeare.

48. Machu Picchu denizen : INCA.

55. Leave out : OMIT.

58. Hot : IRATE.

61. Cardinal, e.g. : TITLE. Not baseball football or birds, but religion.

62. "Friend Like Me" singer in "Aladdin" : GENIE.

63. Author Talese : GAY. A respected author and journalist who just celebrated his 84th  birthday, Sunday. Perhaps most famous for this BOOK.

64. Fire sign : ASHES.

65. Gladiator's milieu : ARENA.

66. Olive shaped like a stick : OYL. Tricky. Popeye's girl. For Splynter: LINK.


1. Complainers : NAGS.

2. "People" person : IDOL. The magazine.

3. She beat out Madeline Kahn, with whom she shared the screen, for Best Supporting Actress : TATUM O'NEAL. Who did not love Paper Moon.

4. Org. that publishes weekly player rankings : ATP. Tennis anyone?

5. Lauren et al. : RALPHS. Also a food market in LA.

6. Tazo choice : CHAI. Foodish. Available in K-cups.
7. Long spans : EONS.

8. Collector's target : DEBT.

9. Filled, folded fare : OMELET. Food.

10. Sneeze cause : PEPPER. Foodish.

11. Ultimatum word : ELSE.

12. J√≠cama or ginger : ROOT. Ginger is big at my house. Foodish.

13. Actress Hathaway : ANNE. So many different looks. 
18. Stumper? : ORATOR. Tricky, someone who gets up on a stump and talks to you.

22. Rowing crew, perhaps : OCTET. There are 8 of them plus the coxswain.

24. St. formed from the Southwest Territory : TENN. How times change.

26. Duel tools : EPEES. And its a sport too!!!!!!

27. "The Untouchables" gangster : NITTI. My favorite actor to play the part.

28. Hotel reservations : ROOMS. So literal.

29. View from Lake Geneva : ALPS. I wonder if marti is there now schussing away?

30. Chihuahua "Ciao!" : ADIOS AMIGO. Well, the friend part is added, but this is a fun fill.

31. Oater group : POSSE.

32. Locations : SITES.

34. Sour fruit : SLOE. Foodish.

37. Acid type : AMINO.

38. Bowie's bride : IMAN. Timely but sad reminder of his recent passing.

39. __ Mule: vodka cocktail in a copper mug : MOSCOW. It is amazing how many things I do not know.

44. Hot whistler : KETTLE.

45. Plains homes : TEPEES. I wanted teepee (1.6MM google hits).

46. Tart container : PIE TIN.

49. Cosby of "Inside Edition" : RITA. She is most IMPRESSIVE but I have no awareness of her.

50. Place for a pupil : IRIS. I had my eye on you.

51. Pledge : OATH.

52. Rolex Player of the Year-awarding org. : LPGALadies Professional Gold Association. They just played last week in Ocala where yet another South Korean won. She had a hole in one on a par 4 the week before.

53. "The Sopranos" actor Robert : ILER. After playing Tony Jr., he has disappeared though apparently he is part of a new project out of Las Vegas call The Four Kings.

54. Gelato holder : CONE. I always use a dish. Foodish.

56. Words to Holmes : I SAY.

57. Texter's toodle-oo : TTYLTalk TYou Later.

60. Dim sum beverage : TEA. Green tea most likely. It is so perfect that a Steve puzzle end with food.

It has been a while since I had to blog a Thursday to avoid self-analysis (this time by Steve) but it is a nice change. Nothing too difficult -a nice work out. Hope you enjoyed as much as I did. See you next time, Lemonade pinch hitting, out.

Note from C.C.:

This is the very first puzzle Steve (aka Steamed Red Mullet) and I made. It was accepted in June 2014. We figure Rich must have quite a few anagram puzzles in queue. Thanks for the inspiration and fun, Steve. You seriously rock!

Steve also gave me a tip on how to make creamy scrambled eggs. You can click here for details. You need to cook the eggs in really low heat. So good with chives sprinkled in.


Lemonade714 said...

Talk about delayed gratification...accepted in 2014, wow.

Barry G. said...

Morning, all!

Nice Thursday-level puzzle. Enough crunch to get my brain some exercise this morning, but nothing to trip me up. I paused before entering ARCED, since I wasn't aware there was something special about the NCAA 3-point line (thanks for the diagram, Lemonade). I knew CHAI, but not Tazo, so that needed some perp help. And... that was about it for speed bumps. Everything else was just slow and steady progress.

Lemonade714 said...

In the world of 'compete with yourself', C.C. has a really cute effort in the NYT today!

thehondohurricane said...

Got through today's offering with nary a slow down, and it was certainly an enjoyable undertaking. Thank you CC & Steve.

I was greatly relieved when the fill for 49D was RITA (who?) and not Bill which was my first thought.

Never saw PISTOL PETE play much (it was before TV took over the sports world) and it is hard to criticize him, but I can't imagine he would have ever averaged 44 points a game without his teammates sacrificing some of their potential for him. No question, his abilities were way above average and his records were gained before the three point shot. Still, I have always wondered how this teammates felt. I did not look it up, but I don't think the team ever went too far in the NCAA tournament. His father was his college coach.

Wanted Guy instead of GAY for Mr Talese. I SAY saved me. MOOSE can be a big road hazard in Maine too.

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Oh so many ways to go wrong! EDIT. for "People" person, POLLEN for sneeze cause, and TEAPOT for hot whistler. "Wite-Out to the wescue!", as Bawwy Kwipke would say. Did I get the theme? If you think so, you'd be the ETERNAL OPTIMIST.

Learning moment: There are different basketball court designs for high school, college and pro-ball. Who knew?

I'm guessing that the Lake Geneva in the puzzle isn't the one in Wisconsin.

unclefred said...

Terrific fun CW, thanx, Steve and C.C.!! Every theme answer, fortunately for me, was the first WAG to pop into my head, and everything just progressed, bit by bit, nice flow. Great wrote-up, too, Lemonade, thanx!!

Hahtoolah said...

Good Morning, Lemonade and friends. I got off to a bit of a rocky start, but soon got on to the right path.

Interesting to have PISTOL PETE appear since his name has been in the news recently. LSU will soon be adding a statue of him outside the basketball arena named in his memory.

I was also amused to see the rower's OCTET. I just read The Boys in the Boat, which is about the US 1936 Olympic rowing team.

Phantom's Place = OPERA was my favorite clue of the puzzle. The musical, The Phantom of the Opera, was based on the novel by Gaston Leroux (1868 ~ 1927).

I tried Pollen before PEPPER as a cause of sneezing. Maybe because pollen really makes me sneeze.

Hot Whistler = KETTLE was another fun clue.

QOD: The chief function of the body is to carry the brain around. ~ Thomas A. Edison (Feb. 11, 1847 ~ Oct. 18, 1931)

Tinbeni said...

Lemon: Great Job PINCH hitting ... hmmm, that gives me an idea ...

Steve & C.C. Thank You for a FUN Thursday puzzle with an interesting PLOT TWIST.

Fave today, of course, was the MOSCOW Mule.
There are a few Pubs around here that will let you keep the "copper mug."
(Yeah, they charge you for it ... but just a couple of bucks).

At Villa Incognito a PIE-TIN usually contains brownies not tarts. lol

A "Toast-to-ALL" at Sunset.

Avg Joe said...

Fun outing. Lots of tricky cluing a few near naticks (e.g. Title and Rita cross). Thanks Steve and C.C. for the Thursday challenge and Lemon for the substitute blogging.

inanehiker said...

Clever puzzle, worked from the bottom up this time - so the reveal clue made the other theme clues much easier.

Thanks Lemonade for filling in, Steve and CC!

Chairman Moe said...

"Puzzling thoughts"

Is it Friday already? Lemonade doing the recap? Must be all this cold weather we are having here in Florida!

Turned out to be a did not finish as the south west corner got me confused; I tried to fit Aries into 64 across, which was obviously incorrect.

Good job Steve and CC, and Lemony, too

Jerome said...

Moscow Mule- Vodka, lime juice and ginger beer

Dark and Stormy- Rum, lime juice and ginger beer

Served many of these at the infamous John and Zekes saloon. Always served them with a smile, but in my head I was saying only an idiot or a faddist would enjoy lime juice and ginger beer in a drink.

Big Easy said...

Congratulations to the triumvirate of Steve, C.C., and Lemonade for today's puzzler. No NITs to pick this morning and I didn't need to GO TO PLAN B to finish. I never noticed the PLOT TWIST and actually filled it-59A- by perps before reading the clue. TATUM was filled by crosses but McENROE was too long so I wrote ONEAL. What a pair of hot tempers they were. CHAI and RITA were all crosses as I had no idea what Tazo was or who she is. I recently read an article about the MOSCOW Mule; otherwise it would have been an unknown.

PISTOL PETE- as I attended college in the LSU system at the same time as Pete ( and David Duke in his NAZI uniform), it was amazing to watch him play. He averaged 44 ppg BEFORE there was a three point shot. He would have averaged 60 points per game because half his goals were from that far out. But his ball handling was even better. The LSU freshman's team (remember when freshmen couldn't play on varsity) outdrew the varsity in attendance. During his three years of varsity play every ticket to his ROAD games was sold out. As hard as it is to believe, the other SEC schools held ceremonies for him when he played his last game on their court his senior year for bringing so much attention to the game and filling up their arenas. HONDO- he wasn't a ball hog; he made it easier for his teammates to make layups with his assists.

Spitzboov said...

Good morning everyone.

I really liked today's puzzle. It had good cluing, style and a good cadence. I did not hurry because I wanted the solve experience to last a bit.
Went to the SE to get a firm anchor, and got the theme early which was verified by RIOT POLICE. That helped hasten filling in 17, 21, and 36a. Only white-out was I had neck TIES before SILK TIES.

IMHO Steve and C.C. can partner anytime for a good puzzle experience. BZ

Lucina said...

Hello, friends, or should I say AMIGOS?

Congratulations Steve and C.C. for your cooperative triumph!

For me, the east dawned first with OPERA and like a waterfall streamed from there all the way to OYL then I proceeded across the bottom and saw PLOTTWIST but waited until the end to find them. Had no idea about PISTOLPETE, but the perps rained down all the letters.

I stalled a bit with E-MEMO but TATUMONEAL interrupted that. One wonders if her life would have turned out better without that adulation at such a young age.

Last night we had not SOLE but orange roughy baked in foil and with a garlic sauce. It was delicious!
Those MOOSE do make an appearance in Alaska but luckily we saw them only on the side of the road.

Interesting that we have CHAI, TEA and KETTLE.

It's a lovely puzzle, Steve and C.C., thank you! And of course, Lemonade, your efforts are always appreciated, any day of the week.

Have a terrific day, everyone!

Lemonade714 said...

Big Easy; I am glad to see you defend Pistol Pete who many have said was the greatest basketball player of all time. At 6'5" he was an extraordinary ball handler who dished out assists consistently. In his time at LSU they went from a 3-20 team to 20-8 and an NIT appearance. His success may also have paved the way for Shaquille O'Neal ending up there. As pointed out, he was one of a number of players who would have been more dominant with the 3 point shot. It was a rule only his last year where he was an irregular with the Celtics and he made 10 of the 15 he attempted.

Husker Gary said...

A lovely Thursday excursion with two of our good friends. The gimmick was obvious before the reveal but not needed to solve.

-We Downton devotees remember Matthew death as a shocking PLOT TWIST
-PISTOL PETE was a scoring machine but never won a state, college or pro championship
-Some hate how the 3-point ARC has team standing around and no inside play
-A losing campaign has to find someone to PIN the blame ON
-Some tiny Soccer MOMS can be seen driving a huge TAHOE
-I’d bet C.C. knows of a former 1st baseman named MOOSE
-A breathtaking ARENA for the CARDINALS
--A RALPH Lauren shoot at a famous venue
-I would think a DEBT collector would have to have a heart of stone
-Vietnam is the current largest producer of black PEPPER. Yeah, I looked it up…
-It’s obvious who was in greater need of a STUMP in these debates
-Recently a SLOE was clued as an “astringent fruit”
-TR’s first charge in his “splendid little war” was up KETTLE Hill
-A GELATERIA in St. Mark’s Square

Anonymous said...

That's correct, Lemon. You can PASS in bridge. You cannot PASS in spades or poker. In poker you check, fold or raise.

Anonymous said...

39. __ Mule: vodka cocktail in a copper mug : MOSCOW. It is amazing how many things I do not know.

Yes, truly amazing.

Steve said...

Don't ever be in a hurry to get a crossword published :) As C.C. mentioned, this was our first collaboration, and I must thank her for her patience and encouragement throughout the process. She's a very generous mentor :)

Being as it was so long since we put this together, I actually had a few problems solving it myself. Obviously Rich changes the cluing to reflect the day of the week, but I was still laughing at myself that I got stuck doing my own puzzle.

Thanks for pinch-hitting, Lemony. You mention Ralph's is a market here in LA - my local Ralph's is a fantastic store. They have a great wine buyer, a butcher and fishmonger and their own sushi chef. I'm pretty much on first-name terms with everyone in there!

Yellowrocks said...

Nice job, Steve and CC. Just right for a Thursday. As always, great write up, Lemony.
The e-clues don't bother me at all, but fill such as noun, verb, hard g, cee, are a bit on the meh side to my taste.
PISTOL PETE was perps and wags, as was RITA.

Alan's 10 mile commute today took me over an hour, a ten mile traffic jam.
On Monday night coming home from NYC, my other son left work at 7:15 and arrived home at 11:30,approx. a 3 hour delay. The trains had stopped running for a suicide investigation after someone died jumping onto the tracks.

The scrambled egg talk reminded me of the old fashioned way to scramble eggs. Melt butter in the pan, add eggs unbeaten and seasoning. When the white just begins to turn opaque, stir, stir, stir until almost all the white is incorporated.Stop when they are the consistency you like, dry or moist. I tried it today for the first time in years, using a heat proof spatula. The eggs were very good. My father-in-law scornfully called today's scrambled eggs, broken up OMELET. I think this old fashioned method is where the name "scrambled" came from.

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

How nice to see a puzzle with our fellow Cornerites sharing a byline. As always, enjoyable with some fun cluing and fill. Hand up for teapot before kettle and neck ties before silk ties. Other than that, smooth sailing.

Thanks, CC and Steve, and Lemony for pinch-hitting. Good job by all!

I think our deep freeze starts today. Brr. Stay warm, everyone.

Have a great day.

C6D6 Peg said...

Loved the puzzle, Steve & C.C. Seemed to be a tad easier for a Thursday, so no problems here. Great job!

Thanks, Lemonade, for pinch-hitting, on a puzzle by our own! Nice job, as well.

CrossEyedDave said...

Oh Nuts!

I got all those lovely WAGs right,
but in the end misspelled/misspelt optomist!

Plot twist?

Anonymous said...

I hope this doesn't mean we are going to be subjected to a double dose of lemony this week.

Anonymous said...

We love, Lemony! We love Lemony! How lucky for us he will blog twice this week.

PK said...

HI Y'all! This is the first puzzle in a very long time that I could not finish. I had all the theme fills but was struggling elsewhere. Then the puzzle disappeared twice. After trying to reconstruct once, I just gave up and went to bed. I was too sleepy to be doing a Thursday puzzle anyway. Never saw the PLOTs. What I did get was interesting. Thanks Steve & C.C. & Lemony.

I had read or heard something about a MOSCOW MULE just yesterday so WAGd that in the puzzle. Never heard of it before.

As a basketball fan, I am ashamed to say I thought PISTOL PETE had been a baseball player. Well, I wasn't watching when he was playing. That's my alibi for stupidity,

Boo LuQuette AKA Boudreaux in Eunice, La. said...

Central west had me thinking a lot I put ARIES for ASHES Well it is a fire sign in the moon sign book and almanacs. That came and Tatum Oneal went in and gave me my foot hold and the TADA went off.

When I seen Pistol Pete and adios amigo I thought the theme was gonna be something about Double letters or something But I got it when the reveal was filled in ~!~!

Plus tard from Cajun Country ~!~!

Ol' Man Keith said...

RITA was the only one I needed help on. I knew it wouldn't be Bill.
Well, I guess that means the SW corner was my problem; I couldn't get it going w/o a starter. That's the way it is when there are several possible perp-dependent answers in an area.
Stupid of me not to realize that PLOT TWIST pointed out the theme. I didn't read it until late in the game.
I too thank Steve and CC for a pleasant pzl. I had not realized how long an accepted crossword may have to wait before publication. I guess that means there is a long queue, and that in turn suggests that there are a great many successful puzzle-makers out there. I'm impressed! Really. I occasionally try to construct one myself, and every time I come away thinking how impossible it is and/or how miserable I am at it. It takes a very nimble word memory and a much sharper brain than I have.

I have looked at a few "how to" sites for creating pzls, but they just seem to state the obvious (such as, "Lay out a grid," "Decide on the answers first"). Does anyone have a favorite on-line aid for constructing crosswords?

Boo LuQuette AKA Boudreaux in Eunice, La. said...

TTP I thought I sent a message yesterday but I don't see it.

I graduated with Kevin Breaux. He was a Golden Knight and is now retired after 20 plus years. If i'm not mistaken he holds the record for the most jumps out of a perfectly good aircraft.

Perhaps you might have met him !!!

Misty said...

This started out as such a toughie for me, I might have quit, except I would never quit a C.C. (plus) puzzle. So I kept at it, and slowly finished it, and then came to the blog with my heart in my throat wondering if I got it right. Voila! I did it. I got the whole thing--even that scary Tazo answer, since I don't know basketball or ever heard of Tazo. But I took a chance on CHAI and it worked! Yea! Thank you Steve and C.C., and you too Rich, for finally giving us their puzzle! And Steve, you made me feel better, since it wasn't a shoo-in even for you!

And thank you, Lemonade, for the always great write-up and pics.

Have a wonderful day, everybody!

Jazzbumpa said...

Hi gang -

Great entry by Steve and C.C. who has been a mentor to so may of us and a good friend to all.

Anagram Thursday.

Yikes! In April it will be 5 years since the wonderful Wayne Bergeron came to town and played this song with us . [Note -- this is not my group]

Gotta run.

Cool regards!

Anonymous said...

Ok Jazz...


Northwest Runner said...

"Ashes" and its neighbors were the hardest one for me. I had everything but the solid 12 in the SW and couldn't come up any of it. I was just about to get a letter hint with "Aries" not working at all when I realized I needed a different sign.

CrossEyedDave said...

9A Phantoms place? at 1st had me thinking of Superman & the phantom zone.
Of course it wouldn't fit, & I did finally get opera, but I was so
freaked out by the spelling of omelet I forgot to ink the P in Pepper...

Oh the trials & tribulations of doing the crossword in ink on a dead tree...

Hmm, this kitty pic seems to fit with the puzzle...

Not familiar with Pistol Pete, so I went looking...
Whoa! I don't think I like this guy!

If it's water, it's half full. If it's beer, it's half empty...

After just relearning the CSN&Y song four dead in Ohio,
I find it difficult to find anything funny about riot police...

Jayce said...

Yeah, that C crossing CHAI and ARCED was the last letter I filled. I loved the clues for OPERA and MOMS. The clues for ORATOR and OYL were pretty good, too. I'm with YR, Jazzb, and others on feeling meh about entries like CEE and NOUN.

I learned about Moscow Mules from our son and his wife, who served them to us at a visit with them a few years ago. It is far too easy to drink too many of them! I got pretty doggone sick.

Best wishes to you all.

CanadianEh! said...

No NITS today. Thanks Steve, C.C. and Lemonade.

I thought that I had a nit with verb tense with 17A until I figured out that it was GO TO not GOT something!

I had Smoke before ASHES and Teas before CHAI but then 60D was TEA so I reworked it.
My pupils were in a DESK not in somebody's eyes! Thought of Marti also with ALPS.

Stay warm all!

CrossEyedDave said...

"Plot twist"

(& now for something completely different...)

I am sure all you puzzlers have heard of the Oak Island mystery.
I came across a puzzle by accident today that I was totally unaware of...

Who made this, & why?

Another view...

It's a puzzle that begs an answer...

TTP said...

Good and tough but fair cluing today.

At Fire sign, tried arson before ASHES, and similarly tried pastry before PIETIN at Tart containers.

Soccer followers = MOMS brought a smile. Hotel reservations = ROOMS was literal. I was looking past the obvious answer on that one.


PISTOL PETE was an unbelievable ball handler and shooter. He was from Aliquippa, PA. Look at the professional athletes from Aliquippa.

Oh, that Lake Geneva. Not this Lake Geneva

Boo, I never jumped. Your friend Kevin was an elite jumper to be a Golden Knight. Kudos to him.

CED, interesting about that Margate grotto.

CrossEyedDave said...


Sorry it is not about the puzzle, it is just puzzling....

If anyone wants to learn more about the Margate Grotto, Here is a paper on the subject.

Another puzzle I have been trying to wrap my head around is Ollantaytambo.
If you are interested in this sort of thing, this 6:50 minute video shows exquisite
stonework. But most interesting to me is at the very last seconds of the video, you
can see a stone slab that has been removed from the rock face.

The slab is a perfect rectangle, smooth on all surfaces.
The rock face that is was removed from is also perfectly smooth.
How was this accomplished?

Tommy Shaw said...

CED, you're neighbor was right, you DO have too much time on your hands.

Steve said...

@Ol' Man Keith - try Crossword Compiler's demo edition at

I started out with that when I was playing around with constructing a few years before I found this site and all the great people that go with it. For me, the key was to find a few symmetrical theme answers, let the software build the grid around them and then try for a fill. You'll get a feel for what works, what is a complete non-starter and how you can fill a puzzle with complete nonsense!

BTW, no editor will accept a puzzle made with the demo edition if you submit online, but the demo version is great for having some fun with.

Or, as the Harvard professor said to the freshman: Sir! you must never end a sentence with a preposition!

To which said freshman replied: OK, so can you tell me where the library's at - assh*le?

Anonymous T said...

Hi All!

Thanks Steve & C.C.! I had so much fun w/ this puzzle beginning w/ the inside-the-blog NIT at 1a. NE was 1st to actually fill and then worked westward. Alas, it wasn't to be w/ the side-by-side names at 3D and 27d. FIW.

Thanks Lem for fixing my 2 bad squares, oh, and subbing.

WOs: stands b/f PASSES, TEA POT b/f KETTLE, ISee I SAY, TTfn b/f TTYL. Finally Place for 33a (place blame) b/f PutON. Not knowing the names, I put down my pen. Sonnova....

ESPs: 38d (really, Bowie's wife is I MAN?), 49d, and 63a.


Fav: ETERNAL OPTIMIST - I am one, obviously... I keep trying Sat pzls :-)

Runner up: Just seeing Euler in the puzzle.

Big E - invoking Godwin's Law? Oh, David Duke... Nevermind.

YR - I feel you re: traffic. Took me 1.5 hr to go 30 mi. A buddy was listening to and XM station out of NY and they mentioned HOU traffic today. What I don't get, it was a perfectly clear & dry day.

CED - funny Dear Abby. Off to finish the grotto video (oh, and work).

Cheers, -T

fermatprime said...


Thanks, CC, Steve and Lemonade!

Fun puzzle. Pretty quick. Hadn't heard of PISTOL PETE or TAZO, but no problem.

Had no internet for a long time. Hence really late blogging.


Anonymous T said...

Nothing puzzlepropos...

While stuck in traffic on the way home I heard this story about Suffers' (a HOU band) on NPR (8:10).

Opening the entertainment section of the paper, I see them on the cover and read the article to find they were on Letterman last year (4:19).

JzB, CED, and other music lovers - y'all might enjoy. I did. However, found I need to get out more - how did I miss this band in my own backyard?

Cheers, -T

Unknown said...

Honestly the easiest thursday puzzle ive ever done. It is a good idea, but the reveler was way too easy. Really nice long fill, though, with datum O'neal and adios amigo, not to mention pistol Pete. Good puzzle!