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Nov 19, 2017

Sunday, Nov 19, 2017 Paul Coulter

Theme: "Twists and Turns" - Two words in each common phrase change place, in all but one where one word is replaced by its homophone.
 
1A: With 22- and 126-Across, saying about the difficulty of dieting? : A WAIST

22A. See 1-Across : IS A TERRIBLE THING. And 126A. See 1-Across : TO MIND. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

36A: Proverb about creeps getting their just deserts? : TIME WOUNDS ALL HEELS. Time heals all wounds.

69A: Handles every objection? : ANSWERS ALL THE NOES. Knows all the answers.

96A. Fed up with a corporate VIP? : BORED OF THE CHAIRMAN. Chairman of the board.

114A. Spars during dance music? : PUNCHES TO THE BEAT. Beat to the punches. Isn't the saying "beat to the punch"?

The last one has no homophone change, turned, but not twisted.

I don't think I've seen a theme entry broken into three symmetrical parts. Very creative. Otherwise, we would have lost a 30-letter fun themer.

Across:  

7. 1956 hot spot : SUEZ. Suez Canal Crisis. We also have 86. '60s hot spot : NAM

11. Healthful getaway : SPA

14. Lodge : STOW

18. Social classes : CASTES. Caste system still exists in India.

19. Trick joint? : KNEE

20. Consequently : THEN

21. Big name in spydom : HARI (Mata)

25. Part of Kurdistan is in it : IRAN

26. Code word : DAH. DIT too.

27. Bluesman Redding : OTIS

28. Nada, across the Pyrenees : RIEN. "De rien".
 
29. Grocery section : AISLE

30. Mrs. Addams, to Gomez : TISH

33. Deck (out) : TOG

34. Like the most popular beaches : SANDIEST. When was the first time you saw the ocean?
 
42. World Heritage Site org. : UNESCO

45. Surgeon's patient? : TREE. Tree surgeon.

46. __ Aviv : TEL

47. Difficult position : SPOT. In a spot.

48. Middle X or O : TAC

49. "Things Fall Apart" novelist Chinua __ : ACHEBE


52. Crisis of the middle ages? : SAG. Ha ha.

54. Flour may be made with it : SOY. I eat tons of soy products. Never tried flour though.

55. "__, Sing America": Langston Hughes poem : I TOO

57. Prynne's stigma : RED A. "The Scarlet Letter"

58. Street fleet : CABS. Not CARS.

61. Irregularly notched : EROSE. Like these leaves.


63. Tidal extreme : LOW WATER

66. Calf-roping loop : NOOSE

68. Cartoon genre : ANIME

72. __-Roman wrestling : GRECO

73. Like cornstalks : EARED


74. Cadillac SUV : ESCALADE
 
77. Mercury astronaut Cooper, to friends : GORDO. Learning moment for me.




78. Website for techies : CNET

79. Big celebration : FEST

81. More than tickle : SLAY. Our Peg! We also have 93. Tickled : AMUSED

82. Troy, N.Y., tech school : RPI.  Our Spitzboov & Irish Miss!

83. Lao Tzu's "way" : TAO. Lao Tzu spoke Mandarin, so he would have used DAO.


85. You don't have to face the music to do it : LISTEN. Thought the answer would be a noun.


87. Cremona crowd? : TRE. Three.

88. Lined up, with "in" : A ROW

90. IV league? : RNs. Cute.

92. Democratic donkey designer : NAST (Thomas)
 
101. Comic book artist's supply : INDIA INK. Ink was invented in China. Paper too.

102. __ Friday's : TGI

103. Winter cord : WOOD

106. Plant life : FLORA

109. "__ Nacht": German parting : GUTE

110. Vintner's prefix : OENO

111. Lingerie item : BRA

113. Noble title : LORD

119. Biblical brother : ABEL. Also the given name of The Weekend.


120. Principal : ARCH

121. Whaler's direction : THAR

122. Home to Napoli : ITALIA

123. Like a yenta : NOSY

124. "Not impressed" : MEH

125. __-Coburg: former German duchy : SAXE
 
Down:
  
1. Vinegary : ACID. Any of you tried sherry vinegar?

2. Attended : WAS AT

3. Japanese beer brand : ASAHI

4. Shades-wearing TV cousin : ITT

5. "Didn't I tell you?" : SEE

6. Original Dungeons & Dragons co. : TSR. It stands for Tactical Studies Rules.

7. Trail access aid : SKI TOW

8. Tolerant : UNBIGOTED. I only know BIGOTED.

9. Fish that can swim backwards : EELS

10. What's at the heart of every calzone? : ZEE. Just the middle letter.


11. Reacted skittishly to : SHIED AT

12. Broke : PENNILESS

13. "The Ice Storm" director Lee : ANG

14. Islamic worshippers : SHIITES. I spell it as "worshipers". You?


15. Experienced crew : TARS

16. __ agreement : ORAL

17. Press release? : WINE. Nailed it.

20. Dilutes : THINS

23. Mechanically, after "by" : ROTE

24. Business : TRADE

29. Hearth residue : ASH

31. Google Maps lines: Abbr. : STs

32. Kool-Aid alternative : HI-C


34. Bygone blade : SNEE

35. "Enchanted" girl in a 2004 film : ELLA. The film title is "Ella Enchanted".

37. Bygone bird : MOA

38. Graffiti and such : URBAN ART

39. Hydrated magnesium sulfate : EPSOM SALTS. For hot baths.

40. Baggy : LOOSE

41. Eye affliction : STYE. Also 76. Checked out : EYED. Any of you wear Acuvue Oasys? I had two abrasions on my right eye. Been having antibiotic drops. Need to see the doctor again next week.

42. Payment made each mo. : UTIL

43. Gp. joined by Montenegro in 2017 : NATO

44. Environmental activist : ECO-WARRIOR

50. Canadian tribe : CREE

51. German gentlemen : HERREN. Plural of HERR.

53. Italy's largest port : GENOA

56. Had : OWNED

58. Ultra-aloof type : COLD FISH

59. Nova Scotia hrs. : AST

60. Strong request : BEHEST

62. Cambodian currency : RIELS. Like Chinese, their language do not have plural form.

64. English race place : ASCOT

65. Small partnership : TWO

67. "Bravo!" : OLE

68. RSA ruling party : ANC. African National Congress

70. Ed.'s request : SAE

71. Ferrara family name : ESTE. Often clued as [Noble Italian family].

72. Start playing for money : GO PRO. Tiny clue dupe with 80. Going rate? : ESTATE TAX
 
75. Challenge : DARE

77. Screen __ : GRAB. Not SHOT.


78. Assemble, as a computer system : CONFIGURE

84. J.Lo's main squeeze : A-ROD.  Beautiful couple.


85. Deficiency : LACK
 
89. In a strange way : WEIRDLY

91. Firm in principle : STAUNCH. Consonant-rich.

92. "Buffalo Stance" singer Cherry : NENEH. Another learning moment for me.


94. Big mouth : MAW

95. A, in Acapulco : UNO

97. Paternity suit evidence : DNA

98. Thumb : HITCH

99. Brush aside : IGNORE

100. Very funny one : RIOT

104. Dagger-shaped editing marks : OBELI. Plural of Obelus. No dagger here.


105. Exhaust : DRAIN

106. Custard concoction : FLAN. Amazed that pie crusts were nowhere to be found yesterday at Cub Foods. Did get rutabaga though. We only eat rutabaga once a year, thankfully.


107. Western wolf : LOBO

108. Mining haul : ORES

110. Dept. of Labor arm : OSHA

112. Hardly more than not at all : A TAD

114. Nonstick cooking spray : PAM

115. UFO crew, so it's said : ETs

116. Big success : HIT

117. WWII command : ETO (European Theater of Operations, 1942-1945)

118. Emeril catchword : BAM



Lemonade spent three weeks in Thailand with his wife Oo. Look at these two amazing pictures. He said "It was good to be king".



46 comments:

fermatprime said...

Greetings!

Thank to Paul and C. C.!

Loved the theme!

Only had trouble with a few things, but they all perped out!

Just worked Saturday's puzzle too! Really nice! Love a workable Sat.! Thanks, Ed and Splynter!

Didn't know: ASAHI, TSR, AST and NENEH.

Great pics, Lemonade!

Have a great day!

Paul C. said...

C.C. is absolutely right about the last one. It occurred to me too late that it's inconsistent, since it doesn't involve a homonym. I thought of a good replacement at the same length - Heirs in the castle - "Princes and princesses under the king's roof?" but by then Rich had already accepted the puzzle, edited and fact-checked it, and sent it out to testers.

The first two are well known witticisms, of course. I searched for more examples of these "twisted tales" finding Hangovers: The wrath of grapes. Olympic officials: The souls that time men's tries. The oboe: An ill wind nobody blows good" Feudalism: It's your count that votes!" Couldn't use them for reasons of matching length, or not being able to break the long ones into workable segments, so I invented the last three. Maybe some of you know a twisted expression that would have worked?

Lemonade714 said...

It has been an amazing last few weeks with the unplanned timing of our beer puzzle being published last Thursday the day we returned to the US. I will send C.C. some additional pictures to be added to her blog pictorial archive. How fun that Paul C. stopped by and addressed C.C.'s comment about the final themer. He was kind enough to post a very nice comment at the Fiend concerning the beer puzzle. Thank you, Paul and all of the Corner for their nice comments.

I was not troubled the homonym/homophone inconsistency as the humor was still there in the clue/fill. The challenge of creating a Sunday with the larger grid is great. I loved IV League/RNS, struggled with ACHEBE (which I have no memory of seeing before) and OBELI which seems familiar but required all the perps.

The trip to Thailand was amazing, though we spent most of our time in an area where we had no available connectivity. When we finally got online, I found my email accounts were disabled so there was no way to post.

Finally, thank you HG for the extra work done with your usual style and grace.

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

I found this one to be really tough...and it got me in the end. Things started going south when I chose KIRIN as my Japanese beer. UNBIGOTED took forever to appear, and even then I didn't like it. Thanx for parsing HI-C, C.C.; I figured it was some newfangled drink named simply HIC. Would've had to be alcoholic, though. The snows of Maine are what did me in. I put Kurdistan in ASIA -- finally called on Wite-Out. Then I guessed the "experienced crew" were OARS, not TARS. I never did get that area straightened out. Bzzzzzzzt! I enjoyed the humor and the challenge, so thanks, Paul. I've been down with a slight case of the flu for the past few days. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it.

CartBoy said...

For any oenophiles, 17 down clue should have been vetted further. Many white wines are pressed shortly after crush so the "release" is really just grape juice. Reds are typically pressed near the end of fermentation.

Maybe just being picky as I got hung up on FEST/fete MOA/moc and not sure I like stow for lodge.

waseeley said...

Strictly speaking an "obelus" (plural "obeli") is more of an author's mark than an editor's mark. They are the familiar dagger or cross shape (†) used with asterisks (*) for on page footnoting.

desper-otto said...

Waseeley, was Hunt For Red October the inspiration for your screen name?

billocohoes said...

ITT was Gomez's cousin, not TISH's

Lucina said...

Thank you, Paul Coulter, for posting your remarks and for the puzzle. Though it was a hard slog, I liked it and was amused.

My starting point was at the far east and filling the entire strand downward then spreading across the bottom (much like my body). That area fell easily for me so I worked my way up.

ACHEBE is completely unknown to me as is ASAHI, the Japanese beer. That section did me in as DAT seemed right and I couldn't recall TISH.

billocohoes: the clue only said "TV cousin"
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GORDO is a common nickname for Gordon but it took me a long time to recall it. Altogether, though, this contained some clever clues. SAG is an apt one.

Thank you, C.C. I always enjoy your insights and cultural perspective. I've never had any kind of SOY product except SOY sauce.

Lemonade: wonderful photos of you and your wife. What a great trip for you!

Have a marvelous day, everyone!

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

This was a fun theme and an enjoyable solve. I had an inordinate number of w/os: Asia/Iran, Rye/Soy, Lasso/Noose, Fete/Fest, Teased/Amused, Earl/Lord, Nein/Rien, and UNICEF/UNESCO. Totally unknown to me: Obeli, Achebe, and Neneh. I liked the Pam and Bam culinary-related duo, but Unbigoted gets a thumbs down. Nice CSO to Spitiz and this Trojan.

Thanks, Paul, for the pleasant diversion and for stopping by and thanks, CC, for the colorful commentary. Sorry to hear about your eye problem.

Lemony, welcome back. I'm happy to know your absence was not health-related. Lovely pictures; hope to see more.

Picard, FLN, I must receive, on average, a dozen (or more,) phony emails a week from Bank of America, PayPal, and Wells Fargo telling me my account has been comprised so "click on this link to update your information." I don't have an account with any of these companies and, even if I did, I know better than to fall for their scam. Fortunately, the Nigerian and Benin "benefactor" scoundrels have been quiet for some time!

Have a great day.

Husker Gary said...

Musings
-A fun cruise with just enough speed bumps
-We went down every crowded Costco AISLE yesterday and spent $250 before we knew it. Their staff was very polite and helpful and we “grazed” so much we skipped lunch
-My first ocean was the Pacific in 1980 when I was 34
-Three TREE surgeons told us our 13-year-old tree had to go
-If you knew CHINUA ACHEBE, color me impressed
-That RED A looks just A TAD insignificant in today’s climate
-EARED – Corn today, seals recently
-Our guide said, “Italia is like America, the south is less sophisticated than the north”
-In My Fair Lady the Professor said to Liza about his slipppers, “You SHIED (threw) them AT me”
-Try getting an ORAL agreement past Judge Judy
-Our veritable stable of 4-letter “S” crosswords - SNEE, spee, stet, sten, smee, smew, stat, ETC
-One of the TWO in this partnership just vanished
-My blogs contain quite a few SCREEN SHOTS (GRABS) of what I construct in Word
-I think I’m going to have a go at Ancestry.com’s DNA info like this person’s
-You’re a RIOT! (:06)
-There’s a very attractive person in both of those great pix, Lemon. Any guesses? :-)

desper-otto said...

Husker, I did that Ancestry DNA thing a couple of years ago. No surprises. West European, East European, and Great Britain in descending order. Didn't learn much.

Lemonade714 said...

Thank you HG, Oo is indeed as attractive as she is nice.

Misty said...

I got chunks of this delightful Sunday puzzle before I had to start cheating, but found working on it a lot of fun with lots of clever clues (e.g. "Trick joint"). So, many thanks, Paul, and more thanks for your post. I love hearing the challenges of puzzle-making and the options you face--information that really makes the puzzle come to life. I'm still a little "puzzled" by a few items: how is 'Principal' an ARCH? AST Nova Scotia hours? STS Google map lines? And I wish I had gotten ESCALADE because that really would have helped with that corner. But when you own a 2003 Subaru station wagon you tend not know a lot about Cadillacs. Anyway, fun puzzle, and great pictures, C.C. So sorry to hear about your eye problem--must be especially vexing for working on puzzle construction as you do.

Packing for my trip has begun. Hard to imagine having to pack coats and warm sweaters and boots when you live in California, but I'm being warned that Pennsylvania will be cold at Thanksgiving.

Lovely pictures, Lemonade.

Have a great Sunday, everybody!

Picard said...

Got the theme early with TIME WOUNDS ALL HEELS. I use that expression more than the original! Some of the others were challenging. Fun theme. Would have loved the puzzle, but...

FIW with GUTA/NENAH. Sorry, I think that was an unfair crossing/Natick. Plenty of other unknowns, but the crosses were fair: EROSE, OBELI, GORDO, TSR, ELLA as clued, ACHEBE.

Just realized that HITCH is from THUMB a ride. I still don't get why ARCH is principal?

I actually know a Kurd from IRAN. I wish the Kurds could have a secure homeland as they have not been treated well.

Here is my article on our Santa Barbara Fiesta Rodeo in August. Scroll to the middle to see my CALF ROPING photos and videos.

Amazing skill to do that. Learning moment it is called a NOOSE.

Here we were in TEL AVIV two years ago.

We visited many historic sites in the region and learned that "TEL is a man-made mound accumulating layers of civilization built one over the other and symbolizing the ancient." (From Wikipedia). With so many layers of building in that part of the world, there is a TEL everywhere you go. A feast for archaeologists.

Glad you are not taken in by the spammers, Irish Miss!

Thanks for the lovely photos of Lemonade and Oo in Thailand! Lucky Lemonade!

PK said...

Hi Y'all! Really fun theme, Paul. I've come to enjoy the hard puzzles. Most of the time now. Only theme entry I had trouble with was Bored of the Chairman. Last to fill was the NE with WI in Wine. Wanted STOp before STOW. And I had tried HARy instead of HARI. Knew better too.

I definitely MIND my WAIST. Everything I eat goes to WAIST.

Thank you, C.C. take care of those eyes. We want more of your great puzzles. Also don't like the thought of our lovely lady having eye pain.

Didn't know ACHEBE, EROSE, OBELI, ASAHI.

The first time I saw the ocean was in 1958 if you count the Gulf of Mexico. I first saw the Atlantic in 1961 and the Pacific in 1998. Coming from landlocked Kansas I loved the big waters.

Lemonade & OO look so happy in their fancy costumes. I, too, was happy to hear Lemony wasn't ill again. OMK may covet those duds.

D4E4H said...


I'm with DO. My mother told ma as a boy that I descend from English, Scotts, and Welch, mostly Welch. I look like I did. I had red hair as a lad. My Surname ends in "Kin" which shows the influence of the same area as it means relatives. People want to add an s to this plural word, and will do so even when I spell it to them. I don't need a check of my DNA to confirm this.

There, that pet peeve is addressed. Now to the toilet paper, I had a house built, and had my wife sit on the throne and reach to the wall where the paper should be. X marked the spot where the dispensers were installed to provide paper from the TOP of the roll. Where I live now, the dispensers are too far back so I use the free roll technique.

And another thing, if you think I have OCD, yours is showing.

Noose, 66A is way over-KILL to rope a calf "calf roping loop." It was used to kill those bad boys at a tall oak tree. The loop went over his head. There was a knot that was several inches long to provide a cylinder thru which the rope would easily slide when the trap door was released. The thickness of the knot insured that his neck would snap when he "Came to the end of his rope."

If you have a bucket list, you may want to use a different term for your dreams. If a platform wasn't near, a bucket would do. He stood on it, and the hangman would "Kick the bucket."

Now to the poor calf, a cowpoke would use a lasso, lariat, or riata which are each ropes with a loop made into one end of the rope that is just big enough for the rope to slide thru to make the loop which catches the calf which becomes veal.

Class dismissed. Thanks to each of you for coming. Drive safely. Please no more applause.

Pelvis has left the building.
It took the rest of Dave with it.

Post 1/5

Jinx in Norfolk said...

FIR, but used the LAT site to confirm SHIITES, ORAL and HARI because I was bogged down in New England. I had WIrE which lead to IRAN, which lead to TARS, which gave me the correction to WINE. Also erased nIEN for RIEN, OneO for OENO, tart for ACID, roc for MOA, RIaLS for RIELS and duo for TWO. Favorites today were "IV league" and COLD FISH. Least favorite, like many others, was "lodge" for STOW.

Thanks Paul for a fun but challenging puzzle, and for your delightful glimpse behind the scenes. And thanks, CC, for another fine Sunday tour. Lemonade, it looks like you and your BH had a great trip. I've never there, but from what I read and hear I should probably add it to my bucket list. Welcome back to the Corner.

I saw the ocean for the first time in Vero Beach, FL when I was 5. My grandmother had just died, and we drove down overnight from Kentucky with my aunt and uncle to help make the arrangements. No interstates (or seat belts, or air conditioning) in those days. My grandfather died a few days later because, we thought, he had no reason to live any longer. My aunt lived in their house in Vero until she died as well, just a few years ago.

Misty - Think ARCHrival and ARCHduke.

The charts that we sailors rely on usually have depths marked in "mean lower low water". Lower low water happens at the full and new moons. The "mean" is just the arithmetic mean; the depth isn't mean unless you run out of it.

OKL (from last night), I had the opposite experience with my first Sams Club visit yesterday. I got a Groupon for a $45 first-year membership plus a gift card for $20. Filled out the application on line, signed up my DW at no extra charge, and got my membership "card" on my smartphone app. By the time we got to the store our membership was in the system, and we got a couple of very nice filet mignons and four great pork chops for a great price. MUCH less crowded than our Costco as well.

Anonymous said...

36A. Desert/dessert. Just dessert, please.

D4E4H said...


Misty 11:25:

ARCH is a prefix ie. ARCHenemy.

AST Atantic Standard Time covers Bermuda, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Puerto Rico with all that big water around it.

STS: I believe stands for streets.

Dave

Yellowrocks said...

I loved this puzzle with all the puns and twists. Great theme. It was not a walk in the park, but a fun challenge.

Lodge: The clue fits one meaning “to deposit for safeguard or preservation”
Agents collect the rent for the land, and lodge it in the bank
—G. B. Shaw
NOOSE: The slip knot allows the noose to be opened . Wikipedia: “ A lasso is made from stiff rope so that the noose stays open when the lasso is thrown. It also allows the cowboy to easily open up the noose from horseback to release the cattle because the rope is stiff enough to be pushed a little” The cowboy controls the noose so that it does not choke the calf to death. Many cowboy novels talk about slipping a noose over the calf’s head.

Yellowrocks said...

WORSHIPPER: Some dictionaries, as well as spellcheck, accept the double pp for worshipper, worshipping, etc. But the single p is more common and fits the rule I learned long ago, In a single syllable word ending in one vowel followed by one consonant
or in a multi-syllable word where the last syllable is accented and ends with one vowel followed by one consonant
the final consonant is doubled when adding er, ed, ing. . If the last syllable is not accented the final consonant is not doubled.
im PEL, impeller, impelled im PER il , imperiled, imperiling HEIGHT en, heightening, heightener WOR ship, worshiper, worshiping
With OB-L- obeli emerged from the dark recesses.
Fantastic Thailand pic, OO and Lemonade. It must have been a wonderful trip.
Neneh, Achebe, and TSR needed every single perp.
I like Asahi with sushi.
I don't care for flan because of the texture.
I find it interesting that in archangel the ch is pronounced like a K and in arch enemy it is pronounced like a CH. Arch means main or chief.

Big Easy said...

Wow! an Anglo-Saxon puzzle. die HERREN, SAXE-Coburg, GUTE Nacht (I'd always heard guten Nacht), and two British race courses- ASCOT & EPSOM Downs. I had 'mucho problemo' completing it today. Chinua ACHEBE, Cherry NENEH, ELLA, TSR, OBELI (or obelus)- words that were new to me and hope to never run across again because I won't remember. I see I.M. didn't know them either.

D-O, I TOO also wanted KIRIN before ASAHI perped its way in. My 'Thumb' was a DIGIT, my 'Spy' was BOND, and my 'Celebration' was a FETE. The correct answers wiggled their ways onto the grid.

SPA- the only thing healthful about a SPA is the SPA owner's bank account. The rest is just pampering to make you feel good while your wallet empties.
First time I saw the ocean? I was eighteen years old.
Graffiti isn't URBAN ART; it's VANDALISM. How would you like that crap painted on your house?
COLD FISH- my ex that I dumped 35 years ago.

D4E4H said...

YR Thanks, I sit corrected. My noose is loose.

I also did not like STOW for lodge. I would much prefer one by a lake with mountains in the background.

On 11-11 you talked about legalizing medical marijuana. In KY an oil from hemp, which is not mj, and does not have the chemicals in it that would cause one to get high, is legal. It is called cannabidiol. The genus is cannabis.

I have been using it for several months, and have less pain which means I can back off on Rxed pills. Mr. Paul Glover is my source. He raises the hemp on his farm in western KY, website milemarker5cbd.com He will be happy to answer any of your questions.

Dave

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inanehiker said...

Amusing theme which brought smiles all through! I have seen the OBELI symbols before and know what they mean - but have never heard their name before.
ACHEBE came to mind, because my book club picks a classic every year and "Things Fall Apart" was one of those. Written in 1958, it was one of the first African novels written in English that reached renown. It is referred to often in other book reviews - so glad we finally read it! I just read a recent first novel written by a young woman who moved here from Ghana in elementary and later went to Stanford and the Iowa Writers Workshop which was excellent: "Homegoing" by Yaa Gyasi. It really gives a good picture of what happened here and in Africa from the colonial times to the present.

Thanks to CC and Paul!

Misty said...

Thank you Jinx and Dave for explaining the ARCH to me. You learn something new on the blog all the time!

Jayce said...

A very enjoyable time doing this puzzle. I really like those twists and turns. My thumb was DIGIT at first, and ASIA for where part of Kurdistan is. I guess actually all of Kurdistan is in Asia. ERGO had to be changed to THEN, LASSO became NOOSE, and screen PLAY became screen SHOT and then screen GRAB. I spent a long time trying to think of grocery section with 5 letters: Produce? Nope. Meat? Nope. Cleansers? Nope. Wine and beer? Nope. Dry goods? Nope. Dairy? Ah yes, dairy! Nope. Never thought of an AISLE as a section. "Where can I find dog food? In the aisle section." I loved the clues for KNEE, TREE, SAG, TRE, THAR, and LISTEN.

The first time I saw the ocean I was about 6 or 7 years old. It was the Atlantic Ocean. Before then, our family had spent summers at Lewes Beach in Delaware, which is technically on Delaware Bay, and Forked River, New Jersey, which is technically on Barnegat Bay, not the ocean. Not until we went to Bethany Beach in Delaware did I actually see the real ocean. The waves were much larger than I had ever seen before and mom and dad wouldn't let me go into the water except to wade a little bit as long as I was holding my big sister's hand.

I never thought about it but I would probably spell it "worshippers" for no other reason than words like "shipper" and "shipping" have 2 "p"s. But heck, I'm the guy who spells "labelled" and "pencilled" but "labeler" and "penciler."

"Hey Maw, you sure have a big mouth." "Shut up, Paw."

Excellent photos of you and Oo, Jason. Thanks for sharing them. Any of you TWO not in costume? Would love to see them.

Best wishes to you all.

Spitzboov said...

Hello everyone.

Not much to add; just some ruminations.
RPI - Thanks for the SO to IM and moi, I think Splynter was there for a while, too.
GUTE Nacht is correct. Nacht is feminine so it takes the accusative case of 'die'. It means 'good'. L German is 'gode'.
TOG refers to clothes. German Zeug; L. German Tüüg. (slang for 'junk'. If I might have left my playthings in my Dad's way, He would say "Nimm dien Tüüg weg. [Take your 'crap' away.])
SAXE-Coburg-Gotha -- Name of dynasty begun by Q. Victoria. I understand it was changed to Windsor as a result of WWI.

desper-otto said...

Lemon, cute photos. Are they supposed to be costumes from The King And I? I can see Yul Brynner dancing in that outfit.

CrossEyedDave said...

I actually got sort of scammed yesterday...
DW asked "what is this $105- charge on the credit card?"
I had no idea...

Turns out I did not read the fine print.

I made a purchase from Amazon recently for the 1st time,
a rather large purchase, and rec'd an email stating that it qualified me to receive
a free trial of Amazon Prime. I thought they were being nice as I made a large purchase,
(Silly me...)


So I watched a couple of new movies, but did not use all the bells
and whistles the thing comes with, and forgot about it.

All is well though, they are refunding my card when I complained
what a sneaky rip off this is...

Bill G said...

Hi everybody. Somewhere this morning I read an article about the spam e-mails we all get trying to get us to send our information to a Nigerian prince (or something of that ilk). The article explained that the grammatical and usage errors are done on purpose. The mistakes are obvious to reasonably educated people. So those folks get weeded out. Only the less-well-educated and not-so-bright people remain in the pool of responders; the perfect customers for the scam.

waseeley said...

To desper-otto: sorry my screen name is not very clever - just my initials and last name. Years ago I went by josephknecht but I don't use it anymore. I did just update my profile if you want more info. I notice you were (are?) in IT. We have something in common.

D4E4H said...


CED 4:12 I am with you. My amazing Amazon error ooccuurreed when Lynn entered my first order for me. Along came the charge, the call, and the fun refund. There wasn't one part of the Prime package that I wanted. Their latest marketing scam made the item I wanted to buy an "Add on" that required $25 of other things to buy it. I now have a good supply.


B G: Four and 17/60 Hours of the clock, Post Meridian, Eastern Standard Time 4:17

NOT A REAL TIME TRAVELING CHECK

4862094322 84279566234 Moi


I read the article today also. All I have to do is get my certified check tomorrow and I will be rich. There are horror stories about people who should be smart enough who sent large amounts to these scammers. Hey a scammer's gotta eat too.



waseeley, I haven't seen your screen name before today. I wanted to tell you how clever it is and finish this comment before I study your's. I'm a newbie to the corner, and haven't even enjoyed my hazing yet. I hear I can have all the free alcohol I can drink.
"Was eeley," how slipppery can you get? Are you a Moray? Swim backward for me. C. C. already has a gig for you at 19 across or 56 down. Swim for it man.

Dave

Anonymous said...

Sitting here at 5:45 after struggling on this since noon. With about a dozen reference books and dictionaries, I was able to solve just about half the puzzle. No fun in this one. I can't repeat the negative words I uttered when I saw what the inane defs meant. One will suffice: TARS are all sailors in general. None of my references even mention "experienced" as a limiting adjective. Again, aiming at "clever" theme answers the constructor spent little time in being accurate with their defs of their fills. Shame on you!

Spitzboov said...

Anon @ 1958.

1. No one here wrote the puzzle. There are other puzzles out there that may be more to your liking.
2. You have to learn to crawl before you walk and walk before you run. Start out with the early week puzzles and, when you're ready, try the later in the week puzzles.

I've enjoyed crosswords for many many years, but it's only within the past year or two that I've regularly tried and mostly finished the NYT, WSJ, and LAT level Sunday 21 x 21 puzzles.

Yellowrocks said...

Anonymous @7:58,it might be helpful to realize crossword clues are not so literal as new solvers might imagine. They do not have the precision and exact one to one correspondence of a good vocabulary test. They are more light hearted and require flexible thinking. In fact,that is what most if us like about them.

PK said...

Amen, Spitz & YR: there is almost a different language to the hard puzzles. You have to learn slowly little by little to speak crosswordese. It's worth it if you are tenacious enough, but discouraging at the beginning, Anon @7:58. Don't dwell on any one clue very long before going on to the next one and filling in what you can along the way. Next time over, words may jump out of the perps. I do both across and down in a section at a time. If nothing comes to me I move on so as not to get frustrated. If you do enough of these, you eventually get a different mindset and they get somewhat easier. But not all do. There are just some things nobody knows in these hard ones.

Anonymous said...

I started a few years ago by cheating and learned that way. Now I don't have to cheat.

Unknown said...

streak ends...enough said about this puzzle.

Sorry about Amazon Prime being less than forthright with you. I have found it to be the best value on the net. Free shipping and a zillion commercial free TV shows and movies for 100 bucks a year. Why oh why did I sell my AMZ at 40 !

Anonymous said...

Bill G wrote "Somewhere this morning I read an article about the spam e-mails we all get trying to get us to send our information to a Nigerian prince (or something of that ilk). The article explained that the grammatical and usage errors are done on purpose."

Picard posted that article yesterday. Maybe that is what you saw?

Bill G said...

Ah, I'll bet you are correct. Geez...

The middle segment on 60 Minutes tonight...I really enjoyed it...about the voyages of the Voyagers past the edge of our solar system. "Send more Chuck Berry."

lodsf said...

Late but.... still don’t understand ARCH for principal. Read all the comments and saw the two — different — explanations which still don’t make sense. Just wondering if anyone was still reading ....? (Liked the puzzle with clever cluing and ‘duh’ — for me — misdirected; always enjoy the ‘duh’ moments in a puzzle!)

Mike Sherline said...

lodsf - your archenemy is your principal enemy, an archbishop is the principal (first) bishop. Took me a long time & a couple of crosses too.

Mike Sherline said...

I meant to type your principal (main) enemy.

Robert Howell said...

Enjoyable puzzle, but one quibble with the clue for 95 down: UNO cannot mean "a" in Spanish. Though you'll find in a dictionary that "uno" is the singular masculine counterpart to the singular feminine "una", when the Spanish equivalent of the indefinite article "a" or "one" is needed before a singular masculine noun, "uno" always drops the "o." Thus "a man" or "one man" is "un hombre;" an automobile or one automobile is "un automóvil." The singular feminine "una," on the other hand, stays whole when immediately preceding a noun, as in "una muchacha" (a girl or one girl) or "una fiesta" ("a party" or one party).

Anonymous said...

Otis Redding was a soul singer; he had nothing to do with blues.
Shouldn't 1 Down have been acidic, rather than acid? The clue was an adjective.