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Nov 24, 2018

Saturday, November 24, 2018, Kyle Dolan

Themeless Saturday Puzzle By Kyle Dolan


On this first Saturday after Thanksgiving and subsequent Black Friday, Small Business Saturday is observed. Our town is very aggressive in promoting its downtown small businesses and some of these enterprises are still flourishing with second and third generation owners.

November 24 also marks Evolution Day, the anniversary of the 1859 publication of Darwin's On The Origin Of Species. Mixing the two thoughts together might give rise to contemplating the evolution of shopping in recent years and where it might be headed in the future.


It is my pleasure to blog my third Saturday Themeless by Dr. Kyle Dolan on this day. I avoided being held up to OBLOQUY (learning moment por moi) by realizing GOAT YOGA was an actual thing and my arcade bonus EXTRA was BALL, not TIME nor LIFE.

Clever, fair Saturday cluing also made for a tough but  fun excursion for this solver.


Now let's see what the good doctor has for us before we head out to Mom and Pop's store.

Across:

1. Fitness trend that involves kids?: GOAT YOGA - A pretty obscure jumping off point but it is a real activity as you can see at the Denver County Fair in Colorado where the "kids" are two and four-legged.



9. "... but we're not done yet": SO FAR

14. Arcade bonus: EXTRA BALL - I remember getting five pinballs for a nickel as a yute and an extra game at 300 points.

16. Old market for olive oil: AGORA - Speaking of shopping, Trajan's Market was a huge AGORA in ancient Rome where I'd bet you could get some olive oil. Our guide called it the world's first shopping mall.



17. Setting for Dante's "Divine Comedy": AFTER LIFE 



18. "Impractical Jokers" network: TRUTV - truTV



19. Something to try out for: ROLE - Tom Selleck did audition for the ROLE of Indiana Jones but Magnum PI came up... 

20. Shelved, for now: ON ICE.

22. "What __?": ELSE - California has had about every tragedy possible this year. This is a question they could be asking themselves 

23. Drei, in the Apennines: TRE - What famous song/movie would be called TRE monete nella fontana in Italy and DREI münzen im brunnen north of the Alps in Germany? *Answer at bottom


24. Cries from sties: SQUEALS - What they are SQUEALING for in the sty


26. Mate: PAL - Sunday solvers will remember C.C.'s wonderful Bro Hug puzzle from last weekend which had: 23A. Corporate criminal's undoing: PAPER TRAIL. PAL  and  Oh yeah, she also had 39A. Sparty's school: MICHIGAN STATE. MATE.

27. Neruda wrote one about the sea: ODE - Pablo Neruda wrote, "I need the sea because it teaches me"

28. Frequent adoptee: PUP 

29. Dirty digs: RAT HOLE

31. Local politician's goal, perhaps: MAYOR - Our town's MAYOR has been instrumental in getting a $400M chicken plant and massive new low cost housing developments here in our little town of 26,000. Approval is far from unanimous. 

34. Bit of bedroom decor: SHAM - Pillow covers at our house

36. When tripled, "Yum!": NOM - We went with NUM, NUM, NUM with our kids

38. Dates: SEES.

39. Cover stories?: BLURBS - The start of a BLURB from our crossword friend TRU 



41. Some lab workers: TECHS  - Here's a kitty wearing a Lab Coat



43. Perform energetically: ROCK OUT.

45. "__ & Him": Zooey Deschanel duo: SHE - A seasonal offering from Her and Him

46. Prefix with gender: CIS.



49. Polly's call: AWK - or Salty's and 5. Pirate's cry: YAR - Although Popeye is not a pirate and the parrot is not Polly, still...



50. Bound: TRUSSED - A treatment your turkey may have had two days ago

52. Elect: OPT.

53. Ziggy Stardust genre: GLAM - A character created by David Bowie


55. Pitch-lowering symbols: FLATS - Down a musical half step 

56. Jaunty greeting: HI HO - Which of these used the greeting, "HI HO, Steverino!" 



57. Country on the Gulf of Guinea: GABON - If you know where it is, you're a better man than I am, Charlie Brown. The answer



59. "That makes much more sense!": I GET IT NOW - Yeah, I do, but I still won't be able to pick out Gabon in a few days

61. Summer month in Santiago: ENERO - On the chart below, ENERO is JANuary and the height of Chile's summer 



62. Italian bread often served at Christmastime: PANETTONE - Last Saturday was National Homemade Bread Day



63. Particulars, informally: DEETS - I guess the "Dev is in the DEETS". Yuck!

64. Wanting: STRAPPED - STRAPPED for cash leaps to mind


Down:

1. Customize for: GEAR TO - As an educator, you are obligated to GEAR your lessons TO your kids

2. 3-Down's alma mater: OXFORD - and 3. Churchill's 1945 successor: ATTLEEClement ATTLEE was in the class of 1904 where he graduated as a Bachelor of Arts with second-class honours in modern history.

4. Family shower: TREE - Not the questionable context you first thought. The Family TREE shows your ancestry



6. Public humiliation: OBLOQUY - A new word for me



7. Start to overtake: GAIN UPON.



8. 2004 remake starring Jude Law: ALFIE - What's It All About, ALFIE?

9. Posed: SAT - FDR SAT for this portrait in April of 1945 in Warm Springs, GA but it went unfinished as he died while the water color was in progress



10. Brutish one: OGRE.

11. Ball field marker: FOUL POLE - This famous Carlton Fisk homer hit the FOUL POLE (FAIR POLE?) to win Game 6 of the 1975 World Series.



33. Got exactly right: NAILED - The Red Sox renamed that the Fisk Pole to honor the man who NAILED it 43 years ago



12. Gallery news: ART SALES.

13. Disentangled: RAVELED - RAVELED : Unraveled = Furled : Unfurled

15. '70s-'80s Rabbit competitor: LE CAR - VW's Rabbit vs Renault's LE CAR

21. Panache: ELAN.

24. One may be foiled by a captcha: SPAMBOT This "Captcha" program asks you to type in the distorted screen characters to prove you are not a robot/SPAMBOT which could then send SPAM email to as many addresses as it can harvest



25. Put away: STASHED.

30. Makes haste: HIES - HIE, thou art an olde word

31. Euro forerunner: MARK - Not LIRA it turns out, 32. Tommy add-on: ROT - Not GUN it turns out and 44. Spring bloom: TULIP- Not LILAC it turns out

34. Provision for trucks: SLOW LANE.



35. Two-time Republican presidential candidate: HUCKABEE - and his daughter 



37. Camp gathering place: MESS TENT - A famous one



39. Talked big: BRAGGED.

40. Waves: SURF.

42. Grover's predecessor: CHESTER - CHESTER A. Arthur became president when President James Garfield was assassinated. Since there was no mechanism to name a new VP, he served his four years without one.

46. Like classic gumball machines: COIN OP - In my misspent yute, it was the answer to the burning question, "What can you buy for a penny""



47. Apple's X, e.g.: IPHONE - My 6S is doing great but the battery might be heading south

48. Put under a seat, say: STOWED.

51. Elaborate tales: SAGAS An excellent list of movie SAGAS

54. Cartoonist Walker: MORT - A mashup of his two most famous strips 



56. Letters in an internet bar: HTTP - The HyperTextTransfer Protocol address of this blog: https://crosswordcorner.blogspot.com


58. Opposed words: NOS- The number of NOS cast can change greatly when a secret ballot is used

60. Spanish diminutive ending: ITA - Chica - Girl. ChiquITA - Little Girl affectionately in Spanish. Also a chance to post a song from one of my favorite groups 




Now before you go out and skip the Big Box Stores to shop, how 'bout a comment:




*That song would be Three Coins In The Fountain

41 comments:

Dudley said...

Hello Puzzlers -

Well that was hard.

I looked long and suspiciously at cisgender and obloquy. Those two were completely unknown. The perps were solid, but still...

Morning Husker, I’d have no luck finding Gabon on a map either.

Bob Niles said...

Obloquy, a revelation for me. I know where Gabon and Guinea are, did not know they were on the Gulf of Guinea.

desper-otto said...

Ufda! Er....Good morning!

I uttered an OBLOQUY or six while slogging through this one. My Wite-Out dispenser got a workout along the way: EXTRA GAME/BALL, FOUL LINE/POLE, GUN/ROT (Hi, Husker.) LILAC/TULIP, TIMON/GABON. "Sheesh!" as Jayce would say. Could not see UP ON as UPON, so GAIN UP ON sounded AWKward. Got it all filled, but I had labored to produce a DNF with INA where ITA needed to be. Bzzzzzzt! Thanx for the humiliation, Kyle, and for the expo, Husker. (When we were kids, we called that song Three Slugs In The Cesspool)

CIS Gender: Learning moment.

IPHONE: The minutes on my flip-phone expire today. I have to pony up $100 to keep it alive. That'll buy 400 additional minutes good for a year, about 375 more than I'll use.

Big Easy said...

We should hear SQUEALS from Cornerites today. I was definitely in the SLOW LANE with this puzzle. OBLOQUY, PANETTONE, TRUSSED, NOM, CIS-gender- I filled them, looked at them, and left them only because nothing else would work with the perps. Never heard or seen any of them.

Gary-"36. When tripled, "Yum!": NOM - We went with NUM, NUM, NUM with out kids"- Do I GET IT NOW? NO, please explain because I don't get it.

Other unknowns by perps SHE & Him, ALFIE.
Gimmes- MORT Walker, GOAT YOGA, ATTLEE, I-PHONE, ENERO, GABON, HTTP
WAGS-OXFORD, MESS TENT

EXTRA BALL- had GAME first.
ALIBIS before BRURBS
Wanted to try PET, CAT, or DOG before PUP got onto the grid. Ditto for LILAC before TULIP.

OwenKL said...

Defeated. Never heard OBLOQUY before, but my real errors were FOUL line > FOUL POLE and ART ShowS > ART SALES. also cIaO > HIHO. HTTP took a while because I was thinking bar as in coffee bar, not bar as in the address bar across the top of my browser.

A gregarious girl from GABON
Could talk your ear off and back on!
Make no mistake,
A conversation she'll take,
And gab on, and gab on, and gab on!

CartBoy said...

Didn't't know "obloquy". Hated the answer for "frequent adoptee". Hopefully, "pup" refers to the entire pup population. No pet should have to endure multiple adoptions (extenuating circumstances allowed). Ended up with OBLOQOY/obloquy, COP/pup, SCAMBOT/spambot.

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning:

I finished w/o help but it was a struggle, as the numerous w/os attest: Pet/Pup, Alibis/Blurbs, Rocks It/Rock Out, Mess Hall/Tent, and Aster/Tulip/Pansy/Tulip. Nom and Glam were unknown and Obloquy almost did me in. I've heard and seen Goat Yoga but it took perps to finally fill it in. I liked the duos of Stowed and Stashed and Awk and Yar.

Thanks, Kyle, for a tough but, ultimately, doable challenge and thanks, HG, for your lively and lovely expo. That Lab looks like he's "smothering" that kitty with love, in more ways than one!

Have a great day.

Anonymous said...

What a slog. For me alot of the clues were a stretch. Do people use some of these words in daily conversation? I like a challenging puzzle but....

billocohoes said...

FIW b/c I had aAR fo 5D, making nearly a palindrome for the unknown 1A, so I thought OK.

That’s Louis Nye, upper right with Steve Allen, Tom Poston, and Don Knotts

I have OBLOQUY for people who, just because the ball is fair when it hits them, want to change what we’ve called the FOUL POLE/ line for 150 years. Same for changing sudden death overtime to “sudden victory”. BLEH

Magilla Go-Rilla said...

Two more words I learned from crossword puzzles that I will never use:
Cisgender
Obloquy

Other words oft found in puzzles that I never use:
Elan
Ort
Alee
Aver
Alit
Suss


Magilla Go-Rilla said...

Oh yes, I forgot to mention; goat-yoga sees absurd.

Magilla Go-Rilla said...

Should read “seems absurd”.

What’s next? Gnu-yoga?

Anonymous said...

I knew I was dead in the water within seconds of this one. Just went on to the Sudoku.

Anonymous said...

Pirate's cry - Yar???? Really? Finally sussed Goat Yoga (???) as the only seemingly possible answer to 1a. But still....

JB2

Anonymous said...

Being 100% Italian, Panettone has always been considered a cake, not a bread.

OwenKL said...

Goat Yoga, yes, it's a thing.

Yellowrocks said...

I liked this one. FIR. It was crunchy, but faster than most Saturday puzzles.
I haven't heard of goat yoga, but "kids" and perps made it plain. Knowing many yoga poses are named after animals, such as cat, cobra, dog, cow, puppy, fish, helped.
You don't hear OBLOQUY in everyday speech, but I do find it in newspapers and novels. I sussed it just from the ----quy.
"Western intellectuals deserve their usual share of the obloquy." New York Times,Oct 16, 2017.
"Not content with his role in that obloquy, he now seems determined to shame his state by clinging to office." Economist, Nov 24, 2016.
The first known use of cisgender was in 1994. I come across it very frequently these days. I read a lot about the obloquy directed against those who are not cisgender because I have a close family member who suffers that kind of abuse.
Lilac before tulip, alibis before blurbs. Num, num, num num, before nom, nom,nom. I think nom is common. Cookie monster says, "Om, nom, nom, nom, nom ..."
I didn't think that "frequently adopted pet" meant a pup who was adopted over and over, just a frequent choice for adoption. It seems to me the same idea as frequent Thanksgiving entree, hopefully not the same turkey.
BTW, my all time favorite pet, Kahlua, was a rejected adoptee. After more than ten years I still miss this precious cat.

Yellowrocks said...

Words that appear to be opposites but actually mean the same:

ravel, unravel
habitable, inhabitable
heritable, inheritable
press, depress
bone, debone
valuable, invaluable
bar, debar
personate, impersonate
privation, deprivation
genius, ingenious

A contronym (also called a contranym or an autoantonym) is a word with two meanings that happen to be the opposite of each other. But some strict grammarians point out that technically they're words with homographs, which are homonyms that are pronounced the same.
Bolt - To separate by fleeing or to hold together (as with a bolt)
Bound -Going toward a destination or restrained from moving
Buckle -To fasten together (with a buckle) or to bend or collapse from pressure
Cleave -To adhere firmly and closely or to split apart
Clip -To fasten (as with a paperclip) or to detach with shears (clipping your hair or your hedges)
Consult -To give advice or to get advice
Custom -common practice or a specially made item
Dust-To cover something with a fine power or to make something clean by brushing or removing dust
Enjoin -To order someone to do something or to prohibit someone from doing something
Fast-Firmly fixed and unmoving or able to move rapidly
more contranyms

Sandyanon said...

A+. I love the pun!

Lucina said...

Yes, I shall accept my OBLOQUY since that word is completely unfamiliar to me; it was a Natick with EXTRA_ALL. I thought it might be BALL but still left it blank.

The rest was quite doable with much thought involved. GOATYOGA is an actual activity with real goats as was showed on the local News during one broadcast. It's a novelty.

CISgender is also foreign to me. I had GOALPOST before FOUL POLE. Sports!

Since I had TRUSSED and FLATS, TULIP emerged easily.

Thank you, Kyle Dolan for provoking me to think deeply today. And many thanks, Gary, for your profound insights and many appealing graphics. I love ABBA, too.

Have a marvelous day, everyone!

AnonymousPVX said...

This wore me out...I was so happy to have it filled that I neglected the “sanity check”.....as a result, 3 wrong cells.

Wrong: I had SURS instead of SURF, which gave SLATS instead of FLATS....and I play guitar, geez, also INI instead of ITA so that led to PANENTONE instead of PANETTONE (and I’m of Italian extraction) and STRIPPED instead of STRAPPED.

Markovers.....EXTRAGAME/EXTRABALL, ONTAP/ONICE, ARTSHOWS/ARTSALES, STORED/STOWED.

Still rather pleased as this is the type of puzzle that I would have quit on in the past.

See you on Monday.

AnonymousPVX said...

Also OBLOQUY was gotten through crosses, it didn’t look right but the crosses did.

Mark S said...

Thanks YR.....Fascinating and quite illuminating.

Mark S

PK said...

Hi Y'all! Kyle really stretched my solving skills. Thanks, I guess! Thanks, Gary, for soothing the sting.

Did not know: WEES + FOUL POLE, SPAMBOT.

GOAT YOGA: knew of it, but wonder why all those women (usually) would allow a stinky GOAT to climb all over them? They have sharp little hooves, too.

We all know a politician who engages endlessly in OBLOQUY. Pretty fancy term. And here I thought he was just a foul mouthed lying trash talker.

Abejo said...

Good afternoon, folks. Thank you, Kyle Dolan, for a fine puzzle. Thank you, Husker Gary, for a fine review.

Wow, this puzzle beat me up pretty bad. I could not finish it. Just too many tough ones.

As in: OBLOQUY, HUCKABEE, MORT, TRU TV, GOAT YOGA, EXTRA BALL, AFTER LIFE, BLURBS, GLAM, GABON, PANETTONE, DEETS.

I did get CHESTER easily, however.

I worked on this puzzle for over four hours. Then caved in.

See you tomorrow.

Abejo

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Jayce said...

Took red letters turned on to solve this puzzle, but solve it I did. The word OBLOQUY somehow seeped out from deep in my memory, so it was not entirely unfamiliar. A few other entries were unfamiliar, however, such as GOAT YOGA, FOUL POLE, TRUTV, and DEETS. CISgender seems to have been in the news a lot the last couple of years; I confess I don't particularly like the term but of course that is my subjective feeling.

Interesting to learn that Tom Selleck tried out for the ROLE of Indiana Jones; I actually think he might have done well at it. By the way, Harrison Ford seems to be one of those people with "two last names."

Owen, I like your "gab on" poem.

Sudden death is now called "sudden victory"? Sheesh!

Good wishes to you all.

WikWak said...

Whew! What a workout. The NW started out blank and by the time the rest was finished it was STILL blank. Finished, but needed red letter help. Dr Dolan, you really made us work to do this one. I salute you. And Husker, you were spot on as usual.

Interesting aside (well, interesting to me, anyway): the day Roosevelt died was the day I was born. I was born very early in the morning and he died later that afternoon.

I knew OBLOQUY but having gotten QUY as perps made it easier to remember. GABON was a gimme for an old (very old) geography teacher; I have also had contact with a ham radio operator there.

Never heard of GOAT YOGA and I never want, either. Really disliked GAIN UP ON; "gain on" I have frequently heard and used. Never heard it said with "up" in the middle.

Got Family shower = TREE but I had to come here to see that what I was reading as "shower" was really "show-er".

Time to go check on the snow blower; we’re looking at 6” or so overnight. Have a great day, all!

Yellowrocks said...

I tutored a second generation Italian family for about 12 or 13 years from when the youngest was 7 until the oldest was 13. I helped them with reading comprehension, studying for tests, math, especially pre-algebra, essay writing, science projects, and research papers. We elementary teachers are generalists. The family and I developed a strong connection. Every Christmas they gave me a delicious panettone. They said they toasted theirs for breakfast. I love panettone. Nom nom nom.
I was surprised to see here that panettone was called a bread in this puzzle, then I remembered a category of baking called sweet breads, i.e., cinnamon rolls, Danish pastry, gingerbread and coffee cakes. Many cookbooks have a section called sweet breads. Wikipedia’s list of sweet breads includes panettone. The dictionary definition is “a rich Italian bread made with eggs, fruit, and butter and typically eaten at Christmas.”
Italian Christmas breads

That's gain upon, not gain up on.
PK, they say great minds run in the same circles. I actually thought of what you might think when I saw OBLOQUY. Too bad we can't email one another.
Owen, loved Gab On.
Family tree, my favorite today.
Lemonade and Kyle, thanks for the wonderful outing.

Wilbur Charles said...

Could OBLOQUY be right? Let's see if Husker agrees
So much ink blot I had to borrow a page from the guy next to me at Winn Dixie. They have a free coffee area and people"borrow" the newspaper. My own was hopeless in the North.
Phil explained Gotcha but I sussed SPAM BOT.
GABON was a WAG. OK. EWAG*.

Ok. Let's read the write-up

Mrs Darwin never bought Charles's theory. Much like many households today, certain subjects are not discussed

Nor EXTRA PLAY. Nor PULL.

Fair?? I can't wait to see the posts

First I couldn't spell SQUEALS then what was I going to do with a naked Q?

CIS was perp solid but... And... No Splynter but we got some bondage.

Not GAIN UP ON

There's also a Pesky's pole in right. Johnny may have hit it once**
Pulling LE CAR out of the ol' noggin was a miracle

Correct answer to 35d. I had it too. Perps killed it,natch. Foul!!!
Chet Arthur is the trick answer to the trivia "Name the presidents who held the rank of Brigatdier or above?

I've run out of room. Go ahead and see how many else you can name. I've given you the most obscure one. Another was just mentioned.

WC

*Educated WAG
** Because of depreciation (rule of 7) it was advantageous to swap ballplayers hence Pesky for Hoot Evers etal in '52.
Actually we got George Kell in that deal too

Anonymous T said...

Hi All!

DNF. Ya got me Kyle. Fun puzzle but I couldn't get 20a & 24a and had PET @28a (and the corresponding downs - OBLOQUY(?), right). I kept wanting sooie! for the sty cry (cute clue).

Thanks HG for finishing my grid and the marvelous expo. Your GLAM Rock link, BTW, gave me a 404.
Also thanks for show-ing me it's not a raining UPON @4d. Perps said yes, but I still wanted baby-shower...

Did no one else want to fill EXTRA play?
LE CAR - didn't that have a "car-bra" on it? IIRC, folks would get after-market polka-dotted or SURF-themed ones. Uggh! - 80's ELAN.

WOs: Arr! it wasn't [hi Billo!] b/f YAR; MESS hall.
ESPs: Tommy ROT //someone explain please
Fav: c/a for BLURBS was cute.

{A+}

YR - contranyms are fun! Thanks for the list.

BigE - Like YR, said: NOM, NOM, NOM [:06]

JB2 - And it's not just the nutty blue-states like OKL linked, we have GOAT YOGA [3:06] even in Houston.

Here's a crazy thing: Youngest still doesn't have her driving permit because she threw away all her IDs (Birth Certificate, SSN card, etc) that was together in a folder for the DMV. She thought she threw it away when she cleaned her room. That was three months ago. Guess what DW found when (finally) cleaning out her car this morning...

Cheers, -T

Terry Fowler said...

I gave up as well. One hour is about my limit.

billocohoes said...

YR, you can add flammable/inflammable to your first list.

WC, other presidents with shoulder stars were Washington, Jackson, W H Harrison, Hayes, Garfield. Not sure about McKinley. Eisenhower’s skill was not in war making, but in keeping high-ego types like Patton, Montgomery, and deGaulle working more or less to the same goal.

Arthur (somebody on PBS said he was known as “Chet the Dude” for his wardrobe) is buried in Albany Rural Cemetery.

PK said...

Eisenhower also had an uncanny skill in seeing the broader over-all picture and planning to goal using those ego-crats.

YR: funny! I thought of you too. I have got to get email.

desper-otto said...

Sweet breads are sweet. But sweetbreads are offal!

Ol' Man Keith said...

NOM?!
Sure,I know Nom de guerre and Nom de plume and a few other such fancy Noms. But who on earth says Nom about their food?!
Cookie Monster?
C'mon.
Does that even count?

Otherwise, this was a truly diverting workout. Loved the wicked cluing. (With the above exception.)

~ OMK
____________
DR:
One diagonal, NW to SE, yielding an anagram that can only have significance for a medieval armorer ...
"TOUGHENED SOX"!

Big Easy said...

Anon@10:52

"Being 100% Italian, Panettone has always been considered a cake, not a bread."

Being 99.9% NON-Italian, I posted early this morning that I had never heard of PANETTONE. This afternoon we went to eat at an Italian Restaurant and walked down the street to an Italian Ice cream parlor and stacked by the door was a display of PANETTONE, that said:


Traditional Italian CAKE, product of Italy, made with 100% butter, Sultana Raisins and Candied Orange Peels

JJM said...

NW region was the toughest for me. I had OBLOQUY but I had never heard the word before so I had to go to the Dictionary to see if indeed it was a word. Also had to Google ATTLEE... had only 3 of the 6 letters. Other than that a tough solve but I made it through in good time.

BTW, the first concert I ever went to was a GLAM show. David Bowie on the "Diamond Dogs" tour at the Arie Crown theater in Chicago.

Becky said...

I failed miserably.

Becky

Lucina said...

Today was a productive day! I started my Christmas shopping! It is a satisfying feeling and since my grandchildren gave me their lists I could easily purchase what they want. And my Christmas cards are ready to be addressed. I've got this!

Best wishes to all for a restful weekend hopefully with not too much snow shoveling.

Wilbur Charles said...

OMK, the Redsox"toughened" up this year and won WS

Here's the list:
Washington Jackson, W.H Harrison,Taylor,Pierce,Grant,Hayes, Garfield,Arthur*,Ben Harrison,Ike. Let me check the net...
Oops forgot Andrew Johnson who like Arthur had an equivalent rank.
Text

Forgot to post that earlier . Actually,ran out of juice

Wilbur Charles said...

Here is the
Full Article

WC